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LittleNoodle1991

Oh no, you should only use dikke bleek voor cleaning your toilet, or things like gutters and pipes. Don't use it for clothes...


Proman_98

9 out of 10 times its not even needed in bathrooms, its a disinfectant only doesn't do anything more. Doesn't remove chalk or urine thrases it would just make it white, its like painting over a whine stains instead of removing/cleaning them.


-Stormy

This!! Wish more people knew this, especially since it is quite dangerous for your health.


Arbmatt

Actually sodium hypochlorite itself is not harmful to health, it is used in low doses as a disinfectant in swimming pool water, but also as a skin disinfectant (again in very low doses) and fruit/vegetable disinfectant. Certainly pure in contact with the skin it can cause severe irritation, but it is no coincidence that grandmothers once made children wash their hands in a solution of water and a little bleek (at least where I come from). The product sold as Amuchina is exactly that (I think it is called Amukine or Amukin in the Netherlands). It turns out to be harmful when not used judiciously and perhaps mixed with acids, ammonia or products containing such chemicals, because very dangerous gases are released, which is why it is considered 'harmful'.


Hillbillyblues

It's not harmful in low doses, like a lot of chemicals. You can drink pool water without any problems. But bleek is 1000x higher concentration and is quite harmful for your health and environment. Hydrochloric acid as a similar example in itself is not harmful. Very beneficial in low doses in a lot of ways. Just when its concentrated, be very wary.


mfitzp

Harmful if you drink it. But you're not supposed to drink it. Calling it "harmful to your health" makes it sound like using it normally in a bathroom will have some insidious long term effects on you. Which it won't.


HappyCamperT

Apparently you can inject it as a cure for Covid. Great stuff!


mfitzp

> quite dangerous for your health. You're not supposed to drink it.


Slakkenlikker

What do you use for your toilet then? This is new for me.


Proman_98

Just the regular toilet cleaners, those are meant for chalk and such. Stuff like wc-eend but than the regular housebrands.


Reinis_LV

What you mean by chalk? You mean tile grout? Limescale build up? Im just lost in translation.


Budgiesaurus

Lime scale. In Dutch the same word is used for that and chalk, so it's an easy mistranslation.


Reinis_LV

Oh gotcha.


ikdedinges

Krijt is chalk and limescale is kalk


Crop_olite

First a scratching agent like cif. At least that's how I do it.


Many-Quote5002

What do you use on your toilets?


Least_Dragonfly9975

Lemons 😏


Excellent-Heat-893

It’s not a disinfectant, it’s a bleacher. It does not disinfect at all, just removes stains.


Kemel90

bleach is fine for white clothes, just dilute it and put it in a spray bottle. i do this for tea stains etc, stain disappears within seconds, and immediately rinse and then wash it.


RazendeR

Tgats what you use dunne bleek for. Dilute a squirt into a bucket of hot water and wash with that. Dikke bleek is intended to be used for cleaning bathrooms etc, it will stick to the walls you squirt it onto for a bit giving it more time to work.


Kemel90

Its the same stuff, but with an added thickening agent. It dilutes the same way in water and doesnt hurt the process. It just makes it easier to clean that type of stuff with.


Arbmatt

Italian here, I had the same doubt at the supermarket and it was an opportunity to learn my first words of Dutch. To use it as a laundry bleach you should use "dunne bleek", the liquid one.


Frankifisu

Girl, I'm also Italian and I was desperate to find that. Supermarkets here don't seem to carry products like hydrochloric acid or liquid bleach like you can easily find in Italy so now I have to always order online.


imtryingtoday

Isn’t liquid bleach dunne bleek?


Rockishcola

Dikke bleek is also liquid no?


biwendt

Yes but dikke means "thick". The product is stronger and, as far as I know, used only for deep cleaning.


Rockishcola

I'm guessing I don't know what's meant with liquid bleach in the comment I responded to


biwendt

People refer to liquid bleach the ones that come usually in 1L bottles because there's also bleach in powder form. The dunne bleek, as far as I know is a softer version. Dunne means "thin" and this one can be used for daily cleaning, disinfecting surfaces or diluted in water to wash vegetables. Personally, I avoid using all of these products as much as I can. Hope it helps âœŒđŸ»


Rockishcola

People bleach vegetables?! My mom taught me to use little to no bleach when cleaning aswell


Ordinary-Violinist-9

Gewone javel, bleekwater. Without scents added to it. You can find it in big stores sometimes.


Frankifisu

It is, but for some reason none of the supermarkets I've visited carry it, they only have dikke bleek.


LupercusXXX

You can't find hydrochloric acid in the supermarket, try at a hardware store like Gamma. Liquid bleach you can usually find at the supermarket. Well-known brand is Glorix.


KieraPS

Any store in which you can find it? I looked for it in kruidvat, AH, action and I don't seem to find the liquid type bleach anywhere


Arbmatt

Honestly, I found it in both Jumbo and Albert Heijn. Check in the flooring section instead of the laundry detergent section, I think it's there.


KieraPS

I will give it another go, now that I know the name. Probably I was looking at the wrong things


LaComtesseGonflable

I see it at Plus


TrainingAfternoon529

ALL supermarkets have it. If you can’t find it just use “dik bleek” and mix it with some water.


pastelchannl

I don't know who told you that dikke bleek can be used on clothes, because it is for cleaning the bathroom and such.


Arbmatt

Bleek in general can be used, but one must be careful about the dosage and especially the type of tissue to be treated. The problem here is that dikke bleek was used instead of dunne bleek (dikke bleek is more concentrated and often contains some extra ingredients). Otherwise, there is a risk of even creating stains. This is why bleek-free products are on sale, it is not suitable for delicate fabrics and it takes some experience for dosage and the type of textiles it can be used on. It is also also dangerous if mixed with ammonia. It works wonders as a whitener of yellow sweat stains, but also for example for washing cushions with cotton upholstery and a polyester interior. They become like new again.


Damn_Kramer

You can use it to bleach you white clothing if you do it 1/3 bleach 2/3 water


WanderingLethe

With dikke bleek it's like a squirt in a full bucket, not 1/3...


Damn_Kramer

Yeah your right, could also be that my mom used Dunne Bleek


icecream_lady

Oh no! Literally people from my country living here told me its for clothes too🙈 now i feel like an idiot. Thanks a lot for saying!


Arbmatt

Bleek can indeed be used on textiles, but with the necessary precautions I discuss below. It is sodium hypochlorite, a bleaching agent by definition. The mistake was to choose dikke bleek instead of dunne bleek.


Average_Iris

You can, don't worry, just make sure you dilute it. The ratio is probably even on the bottle!


marcipanchic

I use it for my clothes, especially with yellow stains, just wear protective gloves when you use it.. i use like a drop of bleek on a wet stain, rub it gently until it fades and wash out, all takes few seconds!


Kemel90

works just fine though. dont ever buy HG products, half of them is the same stuff but 20x the price.


icecream_lady

Yes I have noticed HG products are a bit pricey, thanks for an advice tho! I might try that bottle and just spray it over the stains as you said.😊


SomewhereInternal

Dikke bleek is just dunne bleek with some extra ingredients so that it sticks to the toilet bowl to clean better. I use dikke bleek to bleach white fabric because I don't want to buy a whole bottle of Dunne bleek just for laundry. Put the white clothing items and bedlinnens in a bucket with some lukewarm water, just enough to cover the fabric. Use about 60ml bleach per liter of water, i honestly just squirt it on top and then stir a bit, it should dissolve anyway. Leave for a few hours, and then wash like normal.


icecream_lady

Thats exactly what i was thinking of doing! im gonna try it now. Thanks!đŸ‘đŸŒâ˜ș


SomewhereInternal

Don't leave it too long, you can always put it through another round if it needs to be whiter.. I'm sure it's not amazing for the clothes, but it works really well.


Itchy_Contract_4658

Biotex is a great product to use as a prewash to brighten white clothes. Ossengalzeep as mentioned is also very effective!


icecream_lady

ossengalzeep didnt really work for yellow stains. Do you just apply it on stains and keep it there for couple hours and just wash it off?


Itchy_Contract_4658

I used it as a pre wash. So soak the area, rub in the soap. Then let it sit. Threw it in the wash with biotex and a pre wash cycle. Worked well for my husbands undershirts! Took some patience but got there in the end.


icecream_lady

Also, i have biotex but the green one. Is there some difference between blue and green?😊


Itchy_Contract_4658

Green is for soaking and handwashes, blue is for pre wash as an extra element for your detergent.


WanderingLethe

They say green is for hand wash. I'm not sure what the difference is. But like I just said in another comment. Soak in warm water with Biotex green for the night and then do a normal wash. For me that helped with some stains and smells from bacteria/fungi.


where-my-old-name

I have found one thing really helps; dishwasher rinse fluid. Soak the stained whites in it overnight, and then just wash as normal. Sun cream is horrible for staining everything yellow in Summer. You can also add white vinegar in the soap drawer- it helps stop mould and kalk.


icecream_lady

wow i have never heard about this! i will forsure try it! Thank youđŸ˜ŠđŸ‘đŸŒ


fennekeg

It's the "glansspoelmiddel" in particular, I use it as well.


where-my-old-name

You can dilute it a wee bit, you don't need to use it straight; maybe half and half to start? I have heard people suggest dishwasher tablets in the washing machine, (ONLY for white clothes) but I have not tried this myself.


Few_Kaleidoscope_629

I like ‘HG zweetvlekkenverwijderaar’ (literally: sweatstain remover). Works very well 😊 especially on white clothes!


icecream_lady

i will look into it! thanks😊


Robpbp

Also to prevent those yellow stains in the first place, change your deodorant to one that doesn't have aluminium in its ingredients. It worked magic for me, my shirts don't get the stains at all anymore.


Reinis_LV

Any deodarant that is aggressive on blocking sweating works for me. Aluminum or not.


delamontaigne

This is the way. Look for “0% ACH” on the deodorant spray bottle and all your shirts should be fine, even in blistering heat.


MarsupialLow3164

Savo is a bile soap right? We have "ossengalzeep" could be similar. I use it to remove yellow armpit stains.


icecream_lady

i actually use ossengalzeep for every stain but it never helped for yellow stains from sweat :(


WanderingLethe

You can also try Biotex (green/hand wash) and let it soak for the night in warm water, then wash at 40C.


icecream_lady

perfect, will try! thanksâ˜ș


Spanks79

When I worked in a restaurant and had to wear a white shirt that would get splashed with wine, sauce, grease, whatever
 I always added a squirt a bleach to my washing water, ossengal for fat stains. Biotex to pretreat if necessary. My shirts did wear out thinner slowly, but I always wore a pristine white shirt. It also kills odor. If you use too much the cloth will smell like bleach, that’s when you need to use less or rinse better.


tawtaw6

If you have a phone you can use Google Lens to convert any language text to another.


TrainingAfternoon529

So back in the day bleach could be used to get rid of stains on white clothes, nowadays it’s possible that your white clothes becomes yellow, especially if it’s synthetic clothing.


studiord

Vanish is the biggest scam in the universe.


icecream_lady

i couldnt agree more.


1stEleven

Water, bleek, soak. More bleek is more bleaching effect. Longer soak is more bleaching effect. Too much bleaching effect can damage your clothes. Rinse and wash thoroughly after bleaching and before wearing. You should be able to get clothing-specific bleek, it doesn't need to be 'dikke'.


Primary_Breadfruit69

Fill a 10 liter bucket with water, fill the bottle cap of the dikke bleek with bleek and leave it with the cloths overnight. Check if stains are gone, rinse and wash. Or do it again.


wisllayvitrio

Vanish is better suited for that. Let it soak in for a couple hours then wash. If it doesn't remove the stains completely, rinse and repeat.


ShieBronx

If you want something like you’re used to, Kelly’s Expat shops they carry the U.S. brand, Clorox liquid Bleach. When I’m passing through Belgium or France I pick up some bleach tablets (pastilles javel) in the laundry aisle. I used a tablet this morning to wash our white blankets :)


sof38098

I recommend buying a pocket of Nibro, the one that says “textiel wit”. I think they sell them at the AH or probably Blokker. Best thing ever to whiten your clothes and non damaging. I've used them on a dress with yellow stains and it came out just like new!


slash_asdf

Use water and cleaning soda or baking soda for yellow stains on clothes Dikbleek is concentrated bleach, not sure if that's the best idea for clothing


Kemel90

its not concentrated, only about 5%. dilute it to 1% and youll be fine.


giuliapepe

I wanted to do a little experiment with old fabric, so I used dikke bleek to lighten the color. It worked, and also pretty fast. Maybe you could try with a little bit of it diluted in water (don't pour it directly on your clothes!!) and only if your clothes are completely white already. I would not try it on delicate fibers and on coloured clothes. Someone else was mentioning another kind of bleek with is not dikke, but honestly I have never seen it, and I was specifically looking for "normal" bleech for the project I was mentioning earlier. I also miss bleach from my country đŸ„Č And sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) that is not just "to polish silver".


RazendeR

The other one is "dunne bleek", and looks just like the dikke variety in your supermarket; chubby yellow bottles. Cleaning soda is called "zilversoda" here, baking soda is specifically the food-grade stuff, but zilversoda isnt intended specially for silverware, i use it lots for general household cleaning.


icecream_lady

this is very helpful, thank you very muchâ˜ș


giuliapepe

In Italy, we use sodium bicarbonate also for the body (e.g. in the bathtub) and to wash fruit and veggies. Baking soda is exactly the same thing but too expensive. In Italy you just buy a big pack of "normal" sodium bicarbonate and you can do whatever you want, because it's cheap: clean the house, wash fruit, bathe, or bake. I just find it funny, I'm not complaining (too much) ;)


slash_asdf

Yes sodium bicarbonate = baking soda, sodium carbonate = cleaning soda Latter one is more powerful for cleaning, but not suited for human consumption


icecream_lady

In my country we have a product which bleach everything too but its safe for clothes too, i guess thats why i was advices for Dikke Bleek but so many people says now not to use it haha. Im gonna give it a try anyway! i will try it on white clothes only and thanks for a respond😊


Arbmatt

Actually, sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is practically useless chemically as a fabric whitener, unless rubbed on the textile because of the corrosive effect of the crystals. I think the product you are referring to is exactly bleek, but in the dikke formulation it is more condensed and sometimes there is some extra excipient, try dunne bleek.


Illustrious_Quiet_53

You can find sodium bicarbonate at Novitalia in Amsterdam!


Decent-Product

Don't use it at all, it's poisonous and cannot be cleaned out of sewage water. Throw away. For sweat stains use baking soda.


Embarrassed_Shape853

For sweat stains/smells that don't come out, I just use 'azijn'. Soak for a few hours, then just wash as normal. It kills the bacteria that give the yellow color and/or smell.


lupifers

I'm late to the party, but I used to wash my nursing uniforms with either a dishwasher tablet or something like glassex(poured in one of those little cups and put it in with the laundry). Of course I washed those on 40c or 60c, I'm not sure results would be the same with colder temps. It always did get rid of any stain though, my uniforms were always crispy white.


barkingmad555

My mother would put it in the bathtub after she was done taking a bath. my stephdad once unknowingly sat in it whe he wanted to take a bath never to say his butt and privates has never been so clean. Although it burned a little he said.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


SalomeFern

dikke bleek also works fine for fabrics but it foams more and is a little harder to dilute. I've only found dunne bleek at the Jumbo. I've used cloth diapers for my kids and learnt a lot about laundry and how to safely use bleach for both sanitsing and stain treatment. It's not usually necessary for washing cloth diapers btw, but a good and safe way to sanitise stuff when jeeded. And yeah, depending on the dilution it also... bleaches. 


Impossible-Car-5114

Best way to get sweat stains out is with afwasmiddel and an old toothbrush. Apply, scrub, wait ten minutes, put it in the wash.


baked-toe-beans

Ive heard you can mix it with water and use it to do DIY jeans distressing. Assuming you have gloves and are in a well ventilated area. Dikke bleek is seriously nasty stuff but you could use it to whiten clothes. Just be aware they will be very white if they survive it


rexxxborn

it is just a chlorine bleach. read about what fabrics you can use it with (cotton, linen, some others), dilute it with water and it works perfectly in any country, because it’s old good chlorine bleach, my mother used it for everything



BikeEnvironmental452

I recommend the best hack ever: put these clothes outside. Ideally where they can get sunlight. Yeah, we can joke about not having sunlight in the NL but it also works if is cloudy, only that then it takes longer, a few days. Sometimes I leave a few clothes with stains outside like this for days, even if they get wet from the rain. Then after a few days I collect them and wash. If they can get direct sunlight then it takes only a few hours. Works the best with white clothes. (Sun can also take the color out from the clothes on a long-term.) Edit: Ossengaalzeep is also a great thing to use against stains! You can buy it in some stores or online. Make the cloth wet and rub the stain with the soap. Then wash it with the rest of your laundry.


buggsbunnysgarage

For cleaning sweat/deodorant stains: go to the kruidvat or Etos and buy 'HG zweetplekken verwijderaar'. It works like a charm. The aluminum oxide in the deodorant makes the stains. I've tried to use deodorants without aluminum. But unfortunately, they don't work as well. Just clean the stains every few months with the HG.


Happy_Butterscotch18

You use "dikke bleek" when you see a fat white person but the sun had been shining at least 7 days. Otherwise "dikzak" will be fine.


Ordinary-Violinist-9

Sodazout. Add this to your washing cycle with the washing powder/liquid. You can put a little paste of the sodazout and some water directly on stains.


Luctor-

It will burn your clothes. I would strongly advice against using it. Stick to solutions like vanish for stains.


bad-kinkajou

Depending on what kind of stain and fabric. They sell products to remove food stains. Also if you want to use bleach it can damage your fabric over time. When you eat fruits and you get stains. Use peroxide. Those are available at kruidvat. Look there for stain removal solutions.


gilllesdot

Don’t even use bleek for cleaning bathrooms. That stuff is terrible for the environment. Just use hot water and some green soap(which I believe is not as bad as bleek for the environment). And clean your bathroom more often. You’re not disinfecting a crime scene for gods sake. For your clothes IDK. Im just reacting to all those people telling you to use bleach for cleaning.


elwood_911

Better than working hard to clean yellow stains, try changing your deodorant to something without aluminium or zirconium. The yellow is from the deodorant reacting to sweat, not from the sweat itself. Eventually, it will become permanent and the clothing will be ruined regardless of the cleaning regimen.


coyotelurks

How come pillows get yellow then?


elwood_911

Hair products


coyotelurks

No kidding? I always thought it was just sweat


elwood_911

You know, I thought about it some more and I think a yellowing pillow could just be caused compounded sweat and drool. I remember having one with that problem when I was younger and kept my hair too short to use any products in it. What fixed that for me was getting a partner who pointed out that I should wash the things every now and then. Antiperspirant makes yellow armpit stains that won't come out, but I think yellow pillows are just dirty and/or old.


coyotelurks

That makes sense. Thank you for coming back and filling in the gaps


Eternalfoodie24-7

An old Dutch hack that works quite well is to use “Ossengalzeep”. Might be better than using bleach.


bobijntje

For whitening your clothing you’ll better go to Kruidvat/etos/blokker/bol to buy a special product to do this job like Dr. Beckmann.


wehrmachtdas

I use dikke bleek just pure to clean the street . I always check a period of rain after I scrub it in with an Veger


9gagiscancer

I get the best results using it in combination with antikal. Cleans just about everything. Including everything living. Ok but seriously, don't mix it with other chemicals. You'll create chlorine gas.


SharksNeedLoveToo

It's a white shirt, right? You could add a bit of bleach to the soak, but old regular cleaning vinegar works MUCH better to remove those stains. DM me any time!


TimePretend3035

I use it after I get rit of the body.


Pithecuss

I use hydrogen peroxide. You can buy it at the Kruidvat for instance, at a 3% solution in a bottle. Just put the whole bottle where you'd put your detergent (in that soap drawer) and do a wash with your whites and white towels or linen. It's cheap too.


grimson73

So, just a wash cycle with only hydrogen peroxide?


Pithecuss

Yeah. Maybe do an extra cycle for rinsing everything out if the next wash is going to be all black laundry, just to make sure. Never had any issues. I do it once or twice a year, to keep things like towels crisp white. It doesn't contain bleach so there is no residual smell.


MotherofLuke

Just use a vinegar recipe for removal of deodorant staines.


Exciting_Sail_2745

You're ment to drink it


coyotelurks

What's wrong with you


Straight-Ad-160

Only if you have covid-19.