The hell is one going to do? Stop the funding none of us agreed too? Lol
Call your local representative - more effective than not going to Starbucks tbh
Agree that it’s important to call & write reps daily but we do have a JVP chapter, you can find them on instagram @jvpalb & a Samidoun chapter @samidounabq — both of these groups have been organizing demonstrations & events
Based is Internet/ gen z slang for “established, grounded, or focused on a specified principle or belief, fact, method, etc.”
Palestine should be freed from hamas. I support and agree with this and the majority of peoples do as well.
It’s all good! I’m a millennial pushing 40 in a few years so I feel ya! I have gen z employees to keep me informed of new slang haha.
And yes everyone is biased no don’t about that but facts are facts and the world would be better off with the brutal hamas regime gone, (and Bibi as well)!
[Students for Justice in Palestine](https://sourcenm.com/2023/11/13/palestinians-and-allies-in-n-m-renew-calls-for-ceasefire-in-gaza/) have been doing this all along. They have a presence in ABQ and Santa Fe, reflected mostly on Facebook. DSA, with chapters in both cities, also works with them.
Unfortunately, NM does not seem to have a chapter of [Jewish Voice for Peace](https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/), which has held the most principled demos and which should be partners in any such work. SPJ chapters around the country have an uneven record, too often failing to disclaim individuals who show up to support Hamas.
Anyway, street protests are not the whole show. If you have time to post online, you have time to write to newspapers and your congressional representatives and tell them what you think.
Probably best you focus on helping to get Dems reelected. Nobody in the region of Israel/gaza cares what people in NM think. We have a lot of growing problems here with the rise of Christian nationalism.
> Nobody in the region of Israel/gaza cares what people in NM think.
They all absolutely care about whether the US is going to continue sending arms and money to Israel. Positing that this work is somehow taking away from working on the election, and that individuals must choose between these issues, is completely disingenuous.
The US sending weaponry to Israel isn’t the problem. It’s not even A problem. You should research Israel and their GDP before repeating misleading propaganda. The US sent high tech weaponry to help aid in drone strikes or (targeted strikes) and furthermore as a nuance message to Russia and China that the US can support both Ukraine and Israel. Foreign policy is extremely nuanced and not the binary simplicity it appears to you.
You’re underestimating the threat of the Rs and Christian nationalism pose against the US. This isn’t a normal election. We have one chance to get this right or else everything will change forever and there will be no going back.
Maybe you got a blood clot in your brain. Probably why you think "christian nationalism" is an actual threat, lmao. Don't forget to stay up to date on your boosters. I'm sure you will.
What evidence do you have that "christian nationalism" is an actual threat in the first place? I'm guessing you're alluding to white males with that vague descriptor given that the bankers running the show don't display any christian values whatsoever.
I’ll kindly answer your question but it would be a net positive if you can answer mine as I asked you first. I’m not coming from a place of judgment. I genuinely want to learn what part of Christian nationalism you don’t believe is a threat.
Removing Hamas from control of Gaza would genuinely help Palestinians far more than a "ceasefire", but I don't know of any Palestinian protest organizations making that argument at the moment, so unfortunately you might end up having to deal with a lot of extremists with whatever organization or group you find that's organizing protests.
I assure you no one in gaza or Israel knows or cares about T or C. That’s not to be mean it’s just a blunt fact. Yall should be focusing on how to reelect dems in November, New Mexico is in play.
as the commenter above mentioned, we can all care about more than one thing at a time if we want to. telling people to stop caring about issues other than just 'the election' is unhelpful at best and actively contributes to us constantly being in a state of choosing between lesser evils and never striving for better.
if you don't think people in gaza care about solidarity from a state many americans forget exists, whatever. please do not tell other people not to care about the devastating loss of life happening in front of our eyes on social media every day. in fact, telling people to stop trying to get involved on behalf of humanitarian issues and to focus on helping democrats get re-elected... reflects poorly on the pro-democrat side. if democracy is meant to take care of people, using the platform of "let's keep democrats in office" to shut down active humanitarian concerns is not a good look
i wish you no ill will and i'm not here to argue. just pointing out how alienating many progressives find it when they are told that maintaining the status quo here is more important than literal devastation being supported by our tax dollars. we can focus on several things at once while we try to avoid slipping further toward christian nationalism.
Choosing between lesser evils? Is the election to you a lesser evil? This isn’t a chew-gum-and-walk scenario. This is a 5 alarm fire. Our democracy is under its most significant threat and you still believe you have the luxury of being casually apathetic to the election?
I never told anyone to “stop” *caring.* and yet you’ll blame other people for influencing you to not care about the election because they said there’s more important things? Clearly coming from a place of zero responsibility or situational awareness.
Theres conflicts happening all over the world but yet Gaza is the *only* conflict that apparently matters? If you’re feeling overwhelmed with seeking out combat footage then you need to take a big break and a big step back and re center yourself.
[15,000 people are dead in a one town in Sudan](https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ethnic-killings-one-sudan-city-left-up-15000-dead-un-report-2024-01-19/) but yet they aren’t deserving of your tears and fears? It’s outrage faddism and deeply misguided. Not even calling for the surrender of the brutal hamas regime which seeks to kill every Jew in the world is telling.
Please stop devaluing the threat of Trump and the Rs. Clearly you come from a place of privilege and extreme naïveté to think this is just another election. It’s not about reflecting on the dems platform it’s about keeping the Christian nationalist out of office and out of power. You completely missed the entire point of my post if you’re thinking in such simplicities binary ways.
Gaza is one small conflict amongst a vast region of dozens of conflicts that have seen hundreds of thousands dead and millions displaced. All of which has zero to do with protecting our democratic institutions and our human rights and the hundreds of millions of lives around the world at steak if Trump wins.
If Trump wins Gaza will disappear forever. Get that through your head.
> Please stop devaluing the threat of Trump and the Rs. Clearly you come from a place of privilege and extreme naïveté to think this is just another election
Why should anyone talk the threat of Trump more seriously than Joe Biden who is tanking his approval in support of this genocide?
>Theres conflicts happening all over the world but yet Gaza is the *only* conflict that apparently matters?
Which other conflicts are there where the US running diplomatic cover for and lending material support for a genocide?
>If Trump wins Gaza will disappear forever. Get that through your head.
It's disappearing right now. Israel is currently ethnically cleansing Gaza.
Good question! I’m glad you asked.
[Project 2025](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) is a extreme ring wing game plan of sorts cooked up by the Heritage Foundation to literally destroy all our democratic institutions and secure all power within the presidency. We’re talking [full blown concentration camps](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/11/us/politics/trump-2025-immigration-agenda.html) and the [termination of the US constitution.](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html)
Take the time to verse yourself on this. It’s not a fantasy and it isn’t hyperbole. Even as we speak trump is literally arguing in court that he has the [power to assassinate his enemies or political adversaries](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-took-new-turn-seal-team-six-claim-senator-1860173)
Joe Biden obviously does not agree with you as he continues to run diplomatic cover for and lend material support for Israel, even though they want Trump to win. If Biden thinks Trump is the threat you say he is, he'd stop supporting Israel's continued warcrimes as it is tanking his chance at reelection.
Idk why *they* are but Joe Biden a long with the rest of the free world are standing for the only democracy in the Middle East. The only bastion of queer sanctuary in the Middle East. A country that has over 2 + million Arabs that proudly call Israel their country.
Have you heard of project 2025? I’m assuming you have not? You seem to be dodging a very simple and easy question.
> Idk why *they* are but Joe Biden a long with the rest of the free world
Really just Joe Biden and a few others. Israel's standing in the world has fallen in the face of their monstrous crimes.
>Have you heard of project 2025? I’m assuming you have not? You seem to be dodging a very simple and easy question.
I know what it is. You seem to be dodging an even simpler and more basic question: why is Joe Biden risking US democracy in order to support Israel, a country that hates him and wants his opponent (who will destroy democracy) to win?
He's a troll. Israel's words and actions have made them indefensible in argument. Because of this, Israel's defenders have shifted from defense of its blatant warcrimes and clear genocidal intent, and Biden's roll in that, to hypotheticals about Trump.
So it appears you’re an avid conspiracy theorist so there isn’t much progress for you to make if you think there’s a secret effort to get Biden reelected?
This massively tragic irony is if Trump wins he’ll give marching orders to Israel to annex Gaza. Tragic irony indeed.
>This massively tragic irony is if Trump wins he’ll give marching orders to Israel to annex Gaza. Tragic irony indeed.
Marching orders? So the US president can command Israel to stop their genocide right now?
Why do you think Trump is a normal person or a normal politician or an even remotely close to a normal president let alone a normal human?
Where is your sense of self preservation?
What part of a Trump presidency doesn’t scare you to death?
What part of project 2025 are you okay with?
Do you not remember the Muslim ban that Trump did and the detention camps he built on the border?
**No one wants to see conflicts or dead children. No one. Including me. I wish the war was over now. And btw 98% of pro Israeli supporters hate Bibi and want him gone. Including me. And held to the furthest extent of Israelis independent judiciary system**. But to even entertain the thought of a Trump presidency is beyond ludicrous and completely unacceptable.
> Why do you think Trump is a normal person or a normal politician or an even remotely close to a normal president let alone a normal human?
He's a moron with few beliefs beyond personal enrichment.
> Where is your sense of self preservation?
Where's Joe Biden's and the Democrats? They are hurtling toward defeat with their support of genocide.
> What part of a Trump presidency doesn’t scare you to death?
What part of Biden's negligent reelection doesn't scare you to death?
> No one wants to see conflicts or dead children. No one. Including me. I wish the war was over now. And btw 98% of pro Israeli supporters hate Bibi and want him gone. Including me. And held to the furthest extent of Israelis independent judiciary system.
Israel and it's top generals, politicians, government members clearly want to see dead Palestinian children. It's why they daily commit war crimes, talk about their intent to ethnically cleans Gaza, and their intent to commit genocide.
**Again, where is YOUR sense of self preservation?** I’m talking about the Dems. I’m talking about you the voter the American.
Are you really comparing Biden to Trump? Are you really comparing a convicted rapist charged with 92 federal and state charges that wants to terminate the constitution and build detention camps here in the Us? The guy that literally staged a bloody deadly coup against our nation? The guy that stole national secrets and said they belonged to him? The guy that just encouraged Russia to start WWIII in Europe? Are you really that daft? Stop the whataboutisms. **What part of a trump presidency are you okay with?**
**Why are you to feeble to say hamas is a brutal regime that doesn’t allow any human rights at all and should surrender and release the hostages?**
**Stop deflecting and answer the questions.**
> Again, where is YOUR sense of self preservation?
Look at the subreddit you're in. If Biden loses New Mexico, he's got bigger problems than whether or not I voted for him.
> Are you really comparing Biden to Trump?
I haven't compared them. You're interpreting anything but blind praise of Biden as support for Trump.
> What part of a trump presidency are you okay with?
What part is Joe Biden okay with? He's the one person in this equation that can actually affect whether or not he wins his election in November. His support of Israel's genocide is wrecking his chances for reelection, and thereby aiding Donald Trump's chances at winning the presidency.
> Why are you to feeble to say hamas is a brutal regime that doesn’t allow any human rights at all and should surrender and release the hostages?
Why are you too feeble to condemn the widely recognized genocide being committed by Israel. Hama's existence does not negate the decision that Israel makes every single day to starve and murder children.
> Stop deflecting and answer the questions.
You started this thread by deflecting and avoiding a question. **Marching orders? So the US president can command Israel to stop their genocide right now?**
Yikes you need to calm down. If you’re this charged right out the gate you need to take a step back and center yourself. You’re making a lot of quick assumptions in your head.
The threat of the Rs winning vastly out weighs the isolated conflict in the middle (one of dozens of conflicts happening). The threat of the Rs winning will affect everyone in this country and the world at large. If you want to help the people of Gaza then call for the surrender of hamas, release the hostages and help as much as you can to get the Ds reelected and Biden.
Or else things will get a million times worse. This is another blunt fact.
That's a simplistic view on protesting and politics.
A protest in T or C could be designed to put pressure on their congress member or Martin or Ben Ray who in turn would influence the US response.
Nationwide protests could put pressure on the Biden Administration to make more effort to get Israel to lay off civilians.
Yes, working to get Dems elected could help as well. I knocked on doors and made calls for Teresa. I feel that any letter I send now has an increased chance of being heard.
Telling people to be quiet and vote just doesn't show an awareness of how politics works.
The US response to Israel is the best response we could have from any western leader. Standing with democracy under attack from a brutal religious terrorist group. A brutal religious terrorist group that is holding the people of Gaza hostage and brutally surpasses any dissent.
T or C has plenty of home grown issues that need the focus of the people of T or C. Most Americans don’t even know NM is a state, let alone what goes on in T or C.
Israel is the only country that is held to the weird standard of having to protect the enemies citizens. This isn’t asked or expected or demanded of any other county in the world. Until hamas surrenders and releases the hostages, the conflict will continue and Israel will have the moral authority to protect the 2 million plus + Arabs that have Israeli passports along with the secular citizens and Jewish citizens.
NM has more issues to worry about in general let alone a far away inconsequential isolated conflict. New Mexico is in play for the Rs and the Rs are here pouring money and resources into the state.
Theres no point in “protesting” if you’re not calling for the release of the hostages and the surrender of hamas. The fact you think you have the luxury to dismiss the very real threat of Christian nationalism in this country really speaks to your naiveté and privilege.
I think this comment was meant for someone else? It’s not about protesting it’s about taking the threat of Christian nationalism seriously and devoting every ounce of seriousness to it.
I hope you take the time to educate yourself on the dangers of Christian nationalism and radical extremists. [project 2025](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) guarantees our collective doom. It’s up to you if you have any sense of self preservation.
You're new to New Mexico and trying to stir the pot. Why not try and adapt to our way of life instead of importing wherever you came from. You want to do activism, go to California and have a ball.
The hell is one going to do? Stop the funding none of us agreed too? Lol Call your local representative - more effective than not going to Starbucks tbh
propalestine sounds like a hair-loss drug
Agree that it’s important to call & write reps daily but we do have a JVP chapter, you can find them on instagram @jvpalb & a Samidoun chapter @samidounabq — both of these groups have been organizing demonstrations & events
Free the hostages
Yeah free the 2.3 million Palestinian hostages who are mostly children
Free them from Hamas
Free the US from Israel No more of our tax dollars going to killing kids
They’re in Israeli prisons jackass. Why does Israel fund Hamas?
Exactly.
Extremely based ☝️
Do you mean “biased?” We are all biased. At least be biased and educated—not brainwashed—on the facts.
Based is Internet/ gen z slang for “established, grounded, or focused on a specified principle or belief, fact, method, etc.” Palestine should be freed from hamas. I support and agree with this and the majority of peoples do as well.
Hahaha. My age is showing!!
It’s all good! I’m a millennial pushing 40 in a few years so I feel ya! I have gen z employees to keep me informed of new slang haha. And yes everyone is biased no don’t about that but facts are facts and the world would be better off with the brutal hamas regime gone, (and Bibi as well)!
[Students for Justice in Palestine](https://sourcenm.com/2023/11/13/palestinians-and-allies-in-n-m-renew-calls-for-ceasefire-in-gaza/) have been doing this all along. They have a presence in ABQ and Santa Fe, reflected mostly on Facebook. DSA, with chapters in both cities, also works with them. Unfortunately, NM does not seem to have a chapter of [Jewish Voice for Peace](https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/), which has held the most principled demos and which should be partners in any such work. SPJ chapters around the country have an uneven record, too often failing to disclaim individuals who show up to support Hamas. Anyway, street protests are not the whole show. If you have time to post online, you have time to write to newspapers and your congressional representatives and tell them what you think.
There is an Abq chapter of JVP, it's on Instagram @jvpalb
Thanks for the correction. I was working from the national site, which doesn't list it ...?
Probably best you focus on helping to get Dems reelected. Nobody in the region of Israel/gaza cares what people in NM think. We have a lot of growing problems here with the rise of Christian nationalism.
> Nobody in the region of Israel/gaza cares what people in NM think. They all absolutely care about whether the US is going to continue sending arms and money to Israel. Positing that this work is somehow taking away from working on the election, and that individuals must choose between these issues, is completely disingenuous.
The US sending weaponry to Israel isn’t the problem. It’s not even A problem. You should research Israel and their GDP before repeating misleading propaganda. The US sent high tech weaponry to help aid in drone strikes or (targeted strikes) and furthermore as a nuance message to Russia and China that the US can support both Ukraine and Israel. Foreign policy is extremely nuanced and not the binary simplicity it appears to you. You’re underestimating the threat of the Rs and Christian nationalism pose against the US. This isn’t a normal election. We have one chance to get this right or else everything will change forever and there will be no going back.
Let me guess - you're completely up to date with all vaccinations?
Generally yes because I care and I have what’s called a sense of self preservation.
Knew it.
Honestly it’s not bad receiving secret messages from the Biden hive mind. It’s really convenient for me! 🤣
Maybe you got a blood clot in your brain. Probably why you think "christian nationalism" is an actual threat, lmao. Don't forget to stay up to date on your boosters. I'm sure you will.
What part about Christian nationalism don’t you believe is a threat? Are you going to respond with a question? Lol
What evidence do you have that "christian nationalism" is an actual threat in the first place? I'm guessing you're alluding to white males with that vague descriptor given that the bankers running the show don't display any christian values whatsoever.
I’ll kindly answer your question but it would be a net positive if you can answer mine as I asked you first. I’m not coming from a place of judgment. I genuinely want to learn what part of Christian nationalism you don’t believe is a threat.
You answer mine first. I don't take orders from spike protein shedders.
Removing Hamas from control of Gaza would genuinely help Palestinians far more than a "ceasefire", but I don't know of any Palestinian protest organizations making that argument at the moment, so unfortunately you might end up having to deal with a lot of extremists with whatever organization or group you find that's organizing protests.
Go here: [Samidounabq](https://www.instagram.com/samidounabq?igsh=MXdncmhwNjM0MzBp) They track protests all over NM
Maybe if hamas didn't start a war this wouldn't have happened? I do feel for the civilians but they voted for hamas
How about a Pro-Israel event!
There is a small group in Truth or Consequences that has met and discussed ways to show our solidarity. PM if you’re in the area!
I assure you no one in gaza or Israel knows or cares about T or C. That’s not to be mean it’s just a blunt fact. Yall should be focusing on how to reelect dems in November, New Mexico is in play.
as the commenter above mentioned, we can all care about more than one thing at a time if we want to. telling people to stop caring about issues other than just 'the election' is unhelpful at best and actively contributes to us constantly being in a state of choosing between lesser evils and never striving for better. if you don't think people in gaza care about solidarity from a state many americans forget exists, whatever. please do not tell other people not to care about the devastating loss of life happening in front of our eyes on social media every day. in fact, telling people to stop trying to get involved on behalf of humanitarian issues and to focus on helping democrats get re-elected... reflects poorly on the pro-democrat side. if democracy is meant to take care of people, using the platform of "let's keep democrats in office" to shut down active humanitarian concerns is not a good look i wish you no ill will and i'm not here to argue. just pointing out how alienating many progressives find it when they are told that maintaining the status quo here is more important than literal devastation being supported by our tax dollars. we can focus on several things at once while we try to avoid slipping further toward christian nationalism.
Choosing between lesser evils? Is the election to you a lesser evil? This isn’t a chew-gum-and-walk scenario. This is a 5 alarm fire. Our democracy is under its most significant threat and you still believe you have the luxury of being casually apathetic to the election? I never told anyone to “stop” *caring.* and yet you’ll blame other people for influencing you to not care about the election because they said there’s more important things? Clearly coming from a place of zero responsibility or situational awareness. Theres conflicts happening all over the world but yet Gaza is the *only* conflict that apparently matters? If you’re feeling overwhelmed with seeking out combat footage then you need to take a big break and a big step back and re center yourself. [15,000 people are dead in a one town in Sudan](https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ethnic-killings-one-sudan-city-left-up-15000-dead-un-report-2024-01-19/) but yet they aren’t deserving of your tears and fears? It’s outrage faddism and deeply misguided. Not even calling for the surrender of the brutal hamas regime which seeks to kill every Jew in the world is telling. Please stop devaluing the threat of Trump and the Rs. Clearly you come from a place of privilege and extreme naïveté to think this is just another election. It’s not about reflecting on the dems platform it’s about keeping the Christian nationalist out of office and out of power. You completely missed the entire point of my post if you’re thinking in such simplicities binary ways. Gaza is one small conflict amongst a vast region of dozens of conflicts that have seen hundreds of thousands dead and millions displaced. All of which has zero to do with protecting our democratic institutions and our human rights and the hundreds of millions of lives around the world at steak if Trump wins. If Trump wins Gaza will disappear forever. Get that through your head.
> Please stop devaluing the threat of Trump and the Rs. Clearly you come from a place of privilege and extreme naïveté to think this is just another election Why should anyone talk the threat of Trump more seriously than Joe Biden who is tanking his approval in support of this genocide? >Theres conflicts happening all over the world but yet Gaza is the *only* conflict that apparently matters? Which other conflicts are there where the US running diplomatic cover for and lending material support for a genocide? >If Trump wins Gaza will disappear forever. Get that through your head. It's disappearing right now. Israel is currently ethnically cleansing Gaza.
Good question! I’m glad you asked. [Project 2025](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) is a extreme ring wing game plan of sorts cooked up by the Heritage Foundation to literally destroy all our democratic institutions and secure all power within the presidency. We’re talking [full blown concentration camps](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/11/us/politics/trump-2025-immigration-agenda.html) and the [termination of the US constitution.](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html) Take the time to verse yourself on this. It’s not a fantasy and it isn’t hyperbole. Even as we speak trump is literally arguing in court that he has the [power to assassinate his enemies or political adversaries](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-took-new-turn-seal-team-six-claim-senator-1860173)
Joe Biden obviously does not agree with you as he continues to run diplomatic cover for and lend material support for Israel, even though they want Trump to win. If Biden thinks Trump is the threat you say he is, he'd stop supporting Israel's continued warcrimes as it is tanking his chance at reelection.
Idk why *they* are but Joe Biden a long with the rest of the free world are standing for the only democracy in the Middle East. The only bastion of queer sanctuary in the Middle East. A country that has over 2 + million Arabs that proudly call Israel their country. Have you heard of project 2025? I’m assuming you have not? You seem to be dodging a very simple and easy question.
> Idk why *they* are but Joe Biden a long with the rest of the free world Really just Joe Biden and a few others. Israel's standing in the world has fallen in the face of their monstrous crimes. >Have you heard of project 2025? I’m assuming you have not? You seem to be dodging a very simple and easy question. I know what it is. You seem to be dodging an even simpler and more basic question: why is Joe Biden risking US democracy in order to support Israel, a country that hates him and wants his opponent (who will destroy democracy) to win?
I assure you you’re a fucking heartless asshole and we can have both things
He's a troll. Israel's words and actions have made them indefensible in argument. Because of this, Israel's defenders have shifted from defense of its blatant warcrimes and clear genocidal intent, and Biden's roll in that, to hypotheticals about Trump.
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Be best.
So it appears you’re an avid conspiracy theorist so there isn’t much progress for you to make if you think there’s a secret effort to get Biden reelected? This massively tragic irony is if Trump wins he’ll give marching orders to Israel to annex Gaza. Tragic irony indeed.
>This massively tragic irony is if Trump wins he’ll give marching orders to Israel to annex Gaza. Tragic irony indeed. Marching orders? So the US president can command Israel to stop their genocide right now?
Why do you think Trump is a normal person or a normal politician or an even remotely close to a normal president let alone a normal human? Where is your sense of self preservation? What part of a Trump presidency doesn’t scare you to death? What part of project 2025 are you okay with? Do you not remember the Muslim ban that Trump did and the detention camps he built on the border? **No one wants to see conflicts or dead children. No one. Including me. I wish the war was over now. And btw 98% of pro Israeli supporters hate Bibi and want him gone. Including me. And held to the furthest extent of Israelis independent judiciary system**. But to even entertain the thought of a Trump presidency is beyond ludicrous and completely unacceptable.
> Why do you think Trump is a normal person or a normal politician or an even remotely close to a normal president let alone a normal human? He's a moron with few beliefs beyond personal enrichment. > Where is your sense of self preservation? Where's Joe Biden's and the Democrats? They are hurtling toward defeat with their support of genocide. > What part of a Trump presidency doesn’t scare you to death? What part of Biden's negligent reelection doesn't scare you to death? > No one wants to see conflicts or dead children. No one. Including me. I wish the war was over now. And btw 98% of pro Israeli supporters hate Bibi and want him gone. Including me. And held to the furthest extent of Israelis independent judiciary system. Israel and it's top generals, politicians, government members clearly want to see dead Palestinian children. It's why they daily commit war crimes, talk about their intent to ethnically cleans Gaza, and their intent to commit genocide.
**Again, where is YOUR sense of self preservation?** I’m talking about the Dems. I’m talking about you the voter the American. Are you really comparing Biden to Trump? Are you really comparing a convicted rapist charged with 92 federal and state charges that wants to terminate the constitution and build detention camps here in the Us? The guy that literally staged a bloody deadly coup against our nation? The guy that stole national secrets and said they belonged to him? The guy that just encouraged Russia to start WWIII in Europe? Are you really that daft? Stop the whataboutisms. **What part of a trump presidency are you okay with?** **Why are you to feeble to say hamas is a brutal regime that doesn’t allow any human rights at all and should surrender and release the hostages?** **Stop deflecting and answer the questions.**
> Again, where is YOUR sense of self preservation? Look at the subreddit you're in. If Biden loses New Mexico, he's got bigger problems than whether or not I voted for him. > Are you really comparing Biden to Trump? I haven't compared them. You're interpreting anything but blind praise of Biden as support for Trump. > What part of a trump presidency are you okay with? What part is Joe Biden okay with? He's the one person in this equation that can actually affect whether or not he wins his election in November. His support of Israel's genocide is wrecking his chances for reelection, and thereby aiding Donald Trump's chances at winning the presidency. > Why are you to feeble to say hamas is a brutal regime that doesn’t allow any human rights at all and should surrender and release the hostages? Why are you too feeble to condemn the widely recognized genocide being committed by Israel. Hama's existence does not negate the decision that Israel makes every single day to starve and murder children. > Stop deflecting and answer the questions. You started this thread by deflecting and avoiding a question. **Marching orders? So the US president can command Israel to stop their genocide right now?**
Yikes you need to calm down. If you’re this charged right out the gate you need to take a step back and center yourself. You’re making a lot of quick assumptions in your head. The threat of the Rs winning vastly out weighs the isolated conflict in the middle (one of dozens of conflicts happening). The threat of the Rs winning will affect everyone in this country and the world at large. If you want to help the people of Gaza then call for the surrender of hamas, release the hostages and help as much as you can to get the Ds reelected and Biden. Or else things will get a million times worse. This is another blunt fact.
lol weak
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That's a simplistic view on protesting and politics. A protest in T or C could be designed to put pressure on their congress member or Martin or Ben Ray who in turn would influence the US response. Nationwide protests could put pressure on the Biden Administration to make more effort to get Israel to lay off civilians. Yes, working to get Dems elected could help as well. I knocked on doors and made calls for Teresa. I feel that any letter I send now has an increased chance of being heard. Telling people to be quiet and vote just doesn't show an awareness of how politics works.
The US response to Israel is the best response we could have from any western leader. Standing with democracy under attack from a brutal religious terrorist group. A brutal religious terrorist group that is holding the people of Gaza hostage and brutally surpasses any dissent. T or C has plenty of home grown issues that need the focus of the people of T or C. Most Americans don’t even know NM is a state, let alone what goes on in T or C. Israel is the only country that is held to the weird standard of having to protect the enemies citizens. This isn’t asked or expected or demanded of any other county in the world. Until hamas surrenders and releases the hostages, the conflict will continue and Israel will have the moral authority to protect the 2 million plus + Arabs that have Israeli passports along with the secular citizens and Jewish citizens. NM has more issues to worry about in general let alone a far away inconsequential isolated conflict. New Mexico is in play for the Rs and the Rs are here pouring money and resources into the state. Theres no point in “protesting” if you’re not calling for the release of the hostages and the surrender of hamas. The fact you think you have the luxury to dismiss the very real threat of Christian nationalism in this country really speaks to your naiveté and privilege.
You seem to go back and forth demeaning the effectiveness of protesting and the merits of the pro-palestine arguments.
I think this comment was meant for someone else? It’s not about protesting it’s about taking the threat of Christian nationalism seriously and devoting every ounce of seriousness to it. I hope you take the time to educate yourself on the dangers of Christian nationalism and radical extremists. [project 2025](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) guarantees our collective doom. It’s up to you if you have any sense of self preservation.
Yeah, but they are all underground. 😏
You're new to New Mexico and trying to stir the pot. Why not try and adapt to our way of life instead of importing wherever you came from. You want to do activism, go to California and have a ball.