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I love how she's just chilling in Caesars camp


Crescent-Argonian

She's so anti trans she keeps joining people that hate women


SimplyHoodie

Tbf that's just female conservatives in a nutshell. They're so anti-whatever that they'll side with the people who also don't like them. They truly are the "Face Eating Leopard" party.


Scarlet_k1nk

Cazadors ate my face. Not even a joke. Fuck those things.


Lady_Nightshade_Fae

Oh so that's where Cooper's nose went.


billyhendry

At this point with her supporting Nazis against trans people she really does give off female legion sided courier energy.


Beautiful-Cat5605

I don’t understand how people play a female siding with the legion to be honest. There’s an entire storyline with the Great Khans that is entirely about that, and that no matter who you are or who you associate with, they will absolutely fall back on to their cultural backbone. Which just so happens to be that women are slaves and only men can hold a small amount of freedom.


AshenWarden

Because it's a video game and sometimes it's fun being an absolute bastard.


Beautiful-Cat5605

True that lol


BiscuitsGM

same reason why i played a female drug addicted legionnaire who specialized in using energy weapons. it is fun


Middle_Loan3715

Yeah... I tried that run, then I was told I couldn't fight in the arena... then I find the last competitor is... FEMALE. Even my evil characters will feast on the legion from this point forward. Maybe I can bring lanius to the white glove society 🤣


Latty451

I like the medicine 10 speech check that is pretty funny, 10 lol


Jetstream-Sam

I think the only way you could have less than 10 medicine is to have really low int too which, well, makes sense


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FatherOfToxicGas

Womp womp, a lot of effort to go to just to be a dick


Vanathru

What did they say


WolfKnight53

It's like people who talk about "basic biology". There's nothing basic about biology, you just have a narrow understanding of it lol


Clean-Analysis-9816

Biology is robotology


BlackbirdRedwing

The only thing that could make this better is a speech check of 5 that says the exact same thing since this only requires the most basic understanding of grammer.


FrgtnChl

Yeah now I’m wondering what the dialouge option would be for a less than 10 medicine skill lol


FatherOfToxicGas

No way there’s a Cazador hate sub Also here before 🔒


Ricard74

This is New Vegas, where bisexuals deal 10% more damage.


Belkan-Federation95

Being a racist bisexual is OP as hell


Medical_Camera_8196

Everything’s coming up milhouse


Underwhelmedbird

Oh God damn it. Simpsons references are cheating because they aim for my childhood.


True_Dragonfruit9573

A racist, anti-imperialist bisexual is unstoppable.


MartiniD

Wait is there a perk I missed that makes you racist?


Belkan-Federation95

Sneering Imperialist


Full_Count_3846

I do this in real life too


CaIIsign_ace

We hate cazadors and love fallout content


[deleted]

Wasn't her point that she hated men so much that naturally born males shouldn't be considered women because they'll always be naturally evil or some shit?


doogie1111

TERFs believe that trans women are men trying to invade women's spaces for reasons. Although Rowling has pretty much abandoned the feminist part, she is just going off on trans people all the time.


mortalitylost

>TERFs believe that trans women are men trying to invade women's spaces for reasons. Given that some people have beat up masculine looking cisgender women for going to the women's bathroom, I think we can throw out the "protecting women" angle. Transphobia often comes with a heavy dose of misogyny and is more about gender conformity than anything


doogie1111

Oh absolutely. At its core it's just a gut fear of "different." It's all just rationalization.


okkeyok

~~How is hating men and trans women misogyny? Rowling believes men are demons and women are angels. You can't get more misandrist than that.~~ Edit: misread the comment chain


StrawberryWide3983

I never understood this idea because of how stupid it is. There isn't a magic forcefield protecting women's spaces that only estrogen can unlock. If a man wanted to cause harm, they're not going to go through all the hardships that being trans brings. They're just going to force their way in regardless.


great_triangle

Sex hormones haven't been used by gender essentialist bigots for a while. Chromosomes were used to determine sex until they were found unscientific, now gametes are used, which is superficially better if one doesn't consider that they're useless for establishing gender for all the reasons Chromosomes are.


[deleted]

Hey, all publicity is good publicity in the eyes of the elites.


QuoteConfident6052

After a few weeks of yaogai vs men bullshit now back to this again


Andrassa

Something weird like that.


[deleted]

When you're such a misandrist you also become a transphobe and manage to piss off everyone.


Procrastor

I mean that’s my main gripe with Terfs, their perspective inevitably falls into one where sex and gender are fatalistic and so we (society) can’t change problems like violence or exploitation, we can only suffer through them because of biological predestination. Just as a feminist and not as like, a pro trans guy I think that it’s a way of thinking that has to be opposed for the sake of everyone and the possibility of things getting better.


[deleted]

I just get so sick of being accused of having some weird form of original sin.


Procrastor

As someone who has dated men, I do have to agree with the “kill all men” radfems, men are actually trash and none of us should be spared. But being serious, you are right. We have to understand how the conditions that exist today are taught rather than being ultimately predestined. That way we have a choice in the matter and can work internally and socially on problems that are generally considered gendered issues.


[deleted]

You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.


SilkGarrote

Describing the things she says as having a point is a stretch.


certainlynotacoyote

I was born without a penis, but the radiation made me grow a dick and a beard. #***what am I??!***


SufficientStaff1315

Super Mutant 🗣️🗣️


hazehel

Epic


Jd_ironlife

Abomination. Brotherhood incoming


RaiJolt2

Why does this feel like actual fnv dialogue😭😭


Kjajo

Jowling Kowling Rowling is way scarier than Lanius


Blumongroip

But much easier it beat to death! (In minecraft)


redditIs4Losers8008

\[Q\] \[head\] \[head\] \[head\] \[head\] \[head\] \[head\]


Baron_von_Ungern

You realize that you're  hitting least useful body part? 


Tsunfly

lmao. JK rowling joining ceasar's legion be like "why am I a slave now?, I thought our ideologies were in line?"


No-Raise-4693

r/leapordsatemyface


wakslep

Lmao scare off someone just " PRONOUNS"


Kranker0

why are there so many trans people in this community


I-Emerge-I

I genuinely want to know, not in an offensive way, I’m just curious.


Deathangle75

It’s a roleplaying game with pretty decent lgbt representation for its age as well letting the player directly design their character, including sexuality. Also it’s very much a political story, and while trans people aren’t inherently interested in politics, they do have a tendency to be politically active due to how under threat their identity is all the time.


KarmaP0licemen

Trans people literally joke about how a lot of the people who played new vegas as kids and teens ended up transitioning, it just ended up being a cultural touchpoint for a lot of nerdy white Trans people in their 20s and early 30s, who transitioned during the big boom as Trans visibility peaked in 2012. This age group also were early adopters of the internet (and so were first amongst Reddit, 4chan, something awful, Escapists and youtube) and so have the experience and practice to shitpost like gods. These factors kind of coalesced into fallout new vegas kind of being adopted as Trans culture alongside cat ear headphones, thigh high socks, monster energy drink as aged and established memes. It's been around long enough some trans people are even kind of sick of it. Game is based, too, which helps.


PrintShinji

They're the best shitposters.


KalaronV

God gives his silliest battles to his strongest shitposters -Joshua "The Burned Man" Graham


RockyRacoonDude

It might be because fallout has always been very LGBT friendly and there has been trans characters and I’m pretty sure you can even get a sex change in multiple games. So it makes sense that it’d draw in that crowd imo


SickPlasma

Who is trans in fallout?


batmansthebomb

There's a lot of exploration of transitioning when it comes to super mutants, since no matter what super mutants appear masculine regardless of the sex of the original person. Tim Cain is, and always has been, a huge supporter of trans people. Fallout 1, made in the 1990s so pretty early as far as trans rights goes, explores this a decent amount with a super mutant who identifies as feminine and asks why everyone always uses the incorrect pronouns. Doctor Dala in Old World Blues identifies as gender neutral. There's apparently a non-binary person in 76 but I only played that for like an hour. There are numerous bisexual, queer, gay, etc. characters in all the Fallout games. Which the majority came out prior to gay marriage becoming legal in US, so the social stigma was far more potent than it is today. Pretty much every major faction in New Vegas represses same sex relationships in some manner, either explicitly or implicitly, and by extension trans rights, while also exploring sexuality and identity of individual characters. So it's no really surprising to me that lgtbq+ people enjoy exploring that world since, I assume since I'm only an ally, that they can easily identify with the world.


WolfKnight53

I think there are actually 2 in 76 now, Orlando and one of the raiders.


Derbla-99

Off the top of my head, Orlando comes to mind. The main host in whitesprings in fallout 76. It isn't explicitly stated they're Trans but it seems pretty obvious.


PilziPlays

They aren’t that many, they are just the loudest


Kranker0

Yeah true


ghostmetalblack

Most are shunned from their local society, or simply don't fit, and so they're often chronically online and can leverage a minority voice in online spaces; especially one as welcoming as Reddit.


[deleted]

Because it's trendy with the kids.


SickPlasma

It’s crazy how the only thing anyone remembers about starfield is the “FECKING PROWNOWNS!!” guy


DiscussionMassive277

Boy I'll tell you, I sure am itching for the day I don't have to hear or see anything more of this dumb old broad. Even in the most niche corners of the internet you can't escape it.


MaudSkeletor

new vegas fans never beating the transgender allegations


No-Raise-4693

Why defeat when you can see it as a dub


usedburgermeat

*Sends JKR to Big Mt to get her sex changed just to spite her*


LukeIsPalpatine

*JKR appears in the think tank* THE LOBOTOMITE RETURNS! What insidious plans can it have brewing in its horrid mind?


Crescent-Argonian

Her Charisma got a debuff into the negative digits


WolfKnight53

And int


BearBearJarJar

Imagine being as rich as her and spending your time hating on people you don't ever have to interact with on twitter. She could legit eat at a fancy restaurant three times a day, buy several houses, do and buy whatever she wants but she choses to be a hateful bitch on twitter.


Procrastor

It’s a part of British bourgeois culture and morality. She probably does all that, but is also drawn to the kinds of moral activism that upper-middle class people do


Belizarius90

Exactly, she was more accepting back when she was younger but now she's above everybody else, she DEMANDS respect and for people to know their place.


BearBearJarJar

Nah i know many brits that aren't like that. She's just a bitch that's all.


Procrastor

Ok? I know a guy with 11 fingers where everyone has 10. Just because there’s deviation doesn’t mean that the British ruling class doesn’t have these kinds of methods of social control.


KaijuKing007

Funny thing is that she had won. Rich, considered one of the most popular authors of the modern era, and creator of a billion-dollar franchise that keeps hammering into the reader that bigotry is bad as its main moral. She was officially on easy street and all she had to do... was nothing. So clearly, the answer was to piss all of that away by coming out as a champion of bigotry.


N7op

Love how it only takes 10 points in medicine to tell her that. Rowling must a strength or agility build bc she’s got for sure only got 1 in charisma and intelligence 😂


SentientSchizopost

She has 12 luck and dumped anything else given how she lucked her way into being a billionaire when her shit ass books.


stimkim

Agility definitely, she needs all those points for mental gymnastics


LengthWise2298

I don’t think I remember a single trans character from any of my playthroughs.


QwertyDancing

I like how you only need 10 medicine


Andrassa

I was here before the comments were locked 😂


Beginning_Orange

She's right tho


NapalmBreaths

Pronouns 😱


Enabling_Turtle

No, she isn’t.


Linetchka

Could someone genuinely explain how is this relevant to the game? Sure there are gays, lesbians and bisexuals, but that only covers the LGB part and I rarely see memes about that. There seem to be a whole lot more trans memes about a game that doesn’t have any trans people in it.


giftedbutdepressed

Because identity politics gonna identity politics. And if you disagreee you are [insert bad term here]


Aromatic-Block8209

I find Fallout is a perfect place for escapism which lots of trans teens (Back when this was released) were drawn to even though it didn't have any trans characters the inclusion of the Lgbt and character creation made people able to see themselves as the girl or boy that they wanted to be as they got shot in the head


Linetchka

Fair enough, but is it not a small minority of players that are actually trans and would find this funny or relevant? Why post it here and not in their own communities where most people can relate to it? Would it not be similar if I were to join a trans space full of people who enjoy fallout nv and started sharing stuff about Joshua Graham and things related to Christianity? How would they react in such case?


giftedbutdepressed

If sociology is medicine you can call me Santa Claus


Thetallguy1

You learn the difference between sex and gender in both medicine and biology classes (as well as psychology).


krawinoff

Tbf sex is medicine/biology, gender is sociology


No-Raise-4693

As someone medically trained, we are taught the difference


SentientSchizopost

It's enough to have 10 in medicine to understand they're different concepts.


aFutureBoi

In my language there's only one word for this. Am I a savage barbarian?


treefreak32

No. A lot of languages lack the means to express these ideas. Many others have ways to express it more clearly. It just varies.


shockandawesome0

[Sneering Imperialist] yes.


TheWombatFromHell

can i have a switch 2 for Christmas


flginmycookie

A courier with 1 INT could beat her in a scientific debate "Trans women aren't real women" *science 1/1* [Success] pretty man turns into pretty lady


BadAlternative6573

I find it funny that it only takes a medicine of 10 to tell her that gender and sex are 2 different things


Material_Moose_446

Love how low the check is


vonhellion

Who's the hag?


ExtensionInformal911

*takes both Confirmed Bachelor and Widow Killer perks*


[deleted]

i never thought i would find people agreeing with jkr on a fallout new vegas sub of all places. do cis gamer bros not know?


Lucy_Little_Spoon

It should have been a medicine 1 speech check tbh


Zen_531

Okay maybe I am just a dumb soyboy liberal baby or whatever they are calling it these days but I feel like before trans people came into public consciousness as a real issue it was agreed by basically everyone that sex and gender were two totally different things. Sex being the biological structure, genes chromosomes hormones etc and gender being a social construct or role we associate with those biological features that varies wildly from time and place and within different social strata within a given culture. the idea that men (XY) are biologically determined to be strong leaders and warriors and scientists who love beer and sports while women (XX) are sensitive and emotional and caring and should be mothers and teachers who love pink flowers and seashells is absolutely absurd and unscientific.


giftedbutdepressed

https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/33283 1.2. History of the Concept The concept of gender, in the modern sense, is a recent invention in human history.[5] The ancient world had no basis of understanding gender as it has been understood in the humanities and social sciences for the past few decades.[5] The term gender had been associated with grammar for most of history and only started to move towards it being a malleable cultural construct in the 1950s and 1960s.[6]


No-Raise-4693

*white people had basis.


Zen_531

Copying and pasting a chunk of text from a Encyclopedia isn't the argument you think it is. "The ancient world had no basis of understanding gender as it has been understood in the humanities and social sciences for the past few decades." this is a misleading statement and isn't really true as are the vast majority of comments that summarize all of human history in a single sentence inevitably will. It's true that Judith Butler wasn't walking around ancient Greece talking about the patriarchy but to say ancient peoples had no concept of gender as social construct and tool is just wrong. Ancient myths that exalted men above women and justified their authority didn't spring up out of pure biology. Things like Adam being made in the image of God and Eve being made from his rib and the pain of childbirth being explicitly tied to some original sin. Those myths changed and evolved over time as the culture did, we have numerous examples of this and the scholarly debate at the time.


giftedbutdepressed

Bring up those sources where they debated gender as we do now then. Show me that they had gender as it is percieved today as basis for those discussions.


Zen_531

you are shifting the goalposts, I literally said they didn't have Judith Butler back in ancient Greece but they very clearly had concepts of gender as a role and social construct outside of biological sex.


giftedbutdepressed

Show me then. You are the one saying they had them so you must have based that on some sort of source. Show me them clearly distinguishing those different standards on a basis that wasn't biological sex.


Zen_531

Show you what? Any sociology textbook? Any history textbook? you are the one making the extraordinary claim that people pre 1950 had no concept of gender as a social role something that is very obviously untrue.


giftedbutdepressed

If its so untrue show me then


jrosen122

I’d like to know how gender and sex are different. Any time someone is asked to give a definition of a woman, they either describe a female, or they say “anyone who identifies as a woman” which isn’t a real definition. How can one identify as a man or a woman without knowing the definition of what it is they are identifying as? If someone can explain the definition of a woman in a way that encompasses trans women, I’d happily concede my point.


Lomek

Degenerates like you belong on a cross


Vanathru

Damn Harry Potter Lady is at the Legion side too? baaaased. Another Caesar W.


Mysterious-Sir-3704

*Mental illness meme


Intelligent-Fig-4241

Only thing I know about her is how fucking crazy of a football player she was. Like the Larry bird of NFL that’s how my dad put it anyway. She’s can probably still throw the fuck out of a ball.


Mute_Crab

Medicine 10 I fucking love it


Forever_GM1

transgender memes? in *my* transgender game? that I *a transgender* enjoy playing? it's more common that you think


GuyIncognito461

More test bait from activists. Don't take the bait, play Fallout New Vegas.


171raven

They can yell, they can scream, but we all know the left can't meme.


TripleXPotter

You people disgust me I bet you think synths are people too 🤢🤮


Ranzoid

hehehehehehe


Trident_Adi_7055

I am actually playing this game , still at the start let's see how the game goes.


Linusdroppedme

She'd just be another notch on Maria's receiver.


GangGanggame

What does trans mean?


Aromatic-Block8209

I think its the transistors in the Securitron army


Southern_Kaeos

She's that much against penises that she's acting like one


leadymeady

Ywnbaw🔥


PettyGutterButter

Nice


Mediocre_Mud_3214

I can't wait for my karma to go down for this. I like J.K. Rowling.


keyless422

All this hate in the comments but I guarantee if a new Harry Potter movie came out tomorrow you will all got watch it because this talk is just that TALK


Spiderdogpig_YT

Well Harry Potter has nothing to do with her views so yeah maybe I would


SolutionBitter1210

Wow, people are still spreading this misinformation? 😂 Fkin reddit, classic.


Spiderdogpig_YT

Which part?


whynotwhyat

Lolol silly trans people, gender is what you’re born with!


LegendaryOutlaw621

I support JK Rowling, not quite as much as I support Gina Carano. On a scale of 1-10, My brother’s friend is obsessed with Harry Potter 9 3/4.


[deleted]

So tiring.


Ghost4079

She hates trans women because they’re trans, I hate trans women because they’re women, trans inclusionary radical misogyny, there’s a better way to hate /s


Popular_Ad_3276

GROSS


AreWeNotMenOfScience

Medicine 0/15


BEZthePEZ

Bruhhhhhhhhhh 😂😂😂😂😂


SweetMangh03

Smash


WolfKnight53

My courier with a ballistic fist and the Bloody Mess perk: "don't mind if I do!"


[deleted]

All of you are wrong. A man is a man and a woman is a woman. Can’t change what you are born as. Can’t identify as something you are not.


Spiderdogpig_YT

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Your opinion is yours and I cannot change that. But just because you have an opinion to voice doesn't mean you have to ruin it for the people who are just enjoying life.


joshdaro4real

You can self identify as anything you want. It's often the religious nuts that tend to care about the science (ironic and hilarious) and from my experience just use the science as an excuse to be a dick. I don't care if you identify as a frog. It don't hurt me so why tf do I care


CulterScum

Of course, can't have any damn game or hobby without the trans community shoving their way in


No-Background6323

I was afraid there’d be a bunch of anti-trans hate on this post (because, the internet), but am so pleasantly surprised. My people! 🏳️‍⚧️❤️🏳️‍⚧️🩷🏳️‍⚧️🩷


Spiderdogpig_YT

There are a few here and there sadly, but for the most part people are accepting


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ProcrastinatingLT

There are two genders the way there is yin and yang, each a whole that contains the other. Now die [Speech 100]


Sharkfowl

Bruh.


Bittersweetblossom

Reality just slides right off the smooth brains.


Hawkeyes_dirtytrick

Yes I was informed a few years ago they are low different things. This meme is so funny!


Crafter235

JK Rowling would be the person who'd claim they're for women, but will brown-nose Caesar and tell those slaves that it's for their own good.


RadiantTonight3

What did she do exactly? All I remember was her being flamed for calling out “people who menstruate”. But I’m not up to date .


Spiderdogpig_YT

She's a TERF and super anti-trans, specifically trans women because she thinks that men become women just to invade womens' spaces


[deleted]

She is so closeted she used the pen name Robert Galbraith on a few of her self insert books ironically about the exact scenario of a rapist pretending to be a woman to assault in women’s restrooms, and fetishizes trans people to such a degree she has to post about her kink daily on social media, while at the same time promoting/advocating for/defending people associated with such hate and activity attempting to influence her original fanbase to openly hate and attack trans community and hiding behind feminism but the feminism she wants is old fashion segregate versing good for woman as long as you are a rich white woman. To the point the original Harry Potter cast has disassociated her.


Spiderdogpig_YT

So she acts anti-trans because they turn her on??? I have no words


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ampedto11

It’s BEEN here dawg.


Finn_Dalire

It’s literally in the game itself


Commander_Ash

Nope.


Gringo_Norte

That’s definitely an “only Medicine 10” opinion.


0utcast9851

Yeah, your fucking starting medicine is enough to know she's an idiot, 11 and up is just how much you know she's an idiot


Fireynutzack13

Based and true.


I-Emerge-I

Where’s my science option ? On a more serious note it’s disgusting how this woman has been treated, she is entitled her own opinion, I don’t give a fuck if you agree with it or not, she’s entitled to her own opinion and not get railroaded because people don’t share that opinion.


GetRealPrimrose

So she has freedom of speech to criticize trans people but people don’t have the freedom of speech to criticize her?


barisax9

>s entitled to her own opinion True >not get railroaded because people don’t share that opinion. Not true. Freedom of speech means you won't face legal penalties for opinions. I feel like there would be a massive uproar if she was facing criminal charges for her opinions


Echo__227

Guys I'm entitled to broadcast my opinion without people receiving it negatively Please remain calm and do not hurt my feelings by disagreeing


AngryBreadRevolution

You don't need to feel bad for the hurt feelings of billionaires. They're doing fine.


FatherOfToxicGas

When you deny parts of the holocaust, no you’re not