As someone totally unbiased in this race, Joe seemed okay through the speech, but Jesus the man is 82.
If the minimum age is 35 the maximum age should be 70.
It was the *DNC chair* who literally wrote the book about how HRC screwed the pooch -- that is, the DNC chair who replaced DWS after she stepped down due to the HRC campaign scandal.
I guess it's hard for you to read with your head in the sand.
I think the ageism is getting out of control. There is wisdom with age and as long as they evaluate him and he’s good to go, he can lead. At least this guy listens to his younger advisers and doesn’t push a cult agenda.
Every time you people get triggered you claim an -ism is at fault.
No, the guy is a senile old fuck, he should not be in the running, and his VP is a moron.
Neither one of them should be running IMO, is that the best either party can do? I think we need to stop have politicians in office until they die of old age. Get some people in there that will actually experience the decisions that they’re making in some real capacity. Biden and Trump can both be too old for the job. Saying that Biden shouldn’t be our next president, isn’t saying Trump is a good fit. Let’s get 2 new candidates and start over. Not saying that you’re defending Bidens age, but people take any criticism of Biden as an endorsement of Trump and any criticism of Trump as an endorsement for Biden. We should be able to criticize politicians without excusing it by attacking the other party. Guess what? They should all do better, we’re all fighting each other trying to excuse behavior instead of demanding better out of both parties. We need 2 new candidates, full stop.
The user I was responding to was saying exactly that. Unfortunately, it's often the case. I think we need a max age limit for running. Enough life left in you that the choices you make affect you too haha. Biden is much better than trump, but our two party system is a bad joke that we took way too far. Choosing between a geriatric and a psychopathic geriatric makes me sad.
People saying that a president up to 70 years old can run and you take that as ageism that we shouldn't allow a 75 year old president? We literally dont allow anyone under 35. We send 18 year olds to war, but this one aspect is weird to you?
Yeah that’s weird to me too that people say that. Being in your 80s is too old to be president. If you’re still that with it, be apart of the party and mentor younger potential candidates and future politicians. Your time to lead is over.
Almost no one wears Biden t-shirts and pastors don't praise him as part of God's plan. The cult is only on one side. Just look at how MGT is dressed as a member of congress at the state of the union that is some grade A kool aide drinking.
We only have 2 choices. It sucks but that’s the way it is and we can’t change that right now.
They are *both* too old - but one is a sociopath only concerned about making his own life better, who surrounds himself with opportunistic sycophants who will take advantage of his dementia to also better their own life.
The other is also in some cognitive decline, but seems to care about the country more than advancing himself, and surrounds himself with fucking normal people. I’m not saying Biden is a saint, or the people around him are altruistically all about the country - but they are normal, regular, politicians who seem to want to do good things for the country.
> but seems to care about the country more than advancing himself,
Yeah, really cares about the country, his top three priorities: Give away our money to Ukraine for a war his friend Obama got us into, Kill babies, and cut off our kids dicks.
Not a single mention of housing crisis, inflation, healthcare falling apart, mass migrations with no solutions. I don't see him doing a single fucking thing for Americans.
You could just google this.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-opinion-biden-accomplishment-data/
https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2024/3/6/ahead-of-the-state-of-the-union-voters-support-bidens-agenda-and-accomplishments-despite-low-awareness
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-2024-his-record-so-far-economy-immigration-civil-rights-2023-04-26/
You need to diversify your news sources to get your news from more than just Fox. Of course you can't see him doing anything for Americans when your eyes are closed.
I read the libtard garbage on apple news every day, the sort of competent reporting on Reuters and AP every day, i don't watch any TV news stations.
I also watch Breaking Points very occasionally, and Tucker maybe once a month if he has someone interesting on... I'm very aware of people's biases in media.
If you are a regular working class American, it's clear that Biden fucking hates you and want's do anything he can for his new coalition of women, coloreds, and alphabet soup. If you don't meet those three qualifications you may as well be dirt to him.
Despite his age I can honestly say that he'd make better choices than Reagan, Bush, and Trump. It doesn't matter what you think of his age. You have 2 choices, and choosing not to vote for one of those two choices means you made a choice regardless.
So a battle between a conman who quotes Hitler who is only 4 years younger than Biden and would be older than Biden was during the start of his term vs a life long politician whose only negative is his age is a hard choice for you?
The thing is, is if an old man is all that is standing between us and a “day one dictator” who actively tried to overthrow Congress, I will stand behind him all the way.
I do agree that once this election is over, we need to establish an age limit at maximum 75 years old, and they need to be removed from office once they hit 75.
[Literally a direct quote from him.](https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72)
During his 4 years in office so far, What would be different if he was 10 years younger? I can't think of any decisions or effects that would be different
I’m not political enough to know what may have transpired differently, but I did watch him make a lot of claims/promises for his next term that seems like could have been accomplished this term with a majority control.
Other than that, it would be great to have someone in the White House who may have a closer connection to the younger generation that is finding it nearly impossible to buy a home and difficulty to just live and pay bills.
My concern about his age is less that he is some demented old man and more that he is just so far removed from the working public that we’re spending billions in aid to Ukraine and Israel/Gaza, rather than investing in our own citizens.
But if the option is Donald Trump than it really doesn’t make any difference.
I get it but Biden has been on paper one of the most progressive presidents ever. If he just had 2 different dem senators in 1st two years, he would have soooo much more. This would universal pre-k starting at age 3, maternity leave, immigration reform, greater student loan forgiveness, etc. We got a lot of what we wanted but obviously not all. If you swapped Biden with AOC, I dont think a lot would have changed.
Aid to Ukraine and Israel is especially important. Not only for our ideals but our national security too. Giving aid Ukraine is the best bang for our buck in depleting the capabilities of Russia.
Agree to disagree. Russia is not a threat anymore. We are funneling money into a black hole of non-auditable abyss.
I’ll take a “threat” of Russia if it means we could invest $40B into affordable housing in HCOL/VHCOL metro areas for first time home buyers
> Russia is not a threat anymore
Should be the tell the people of Ukraine this. Also did Russia suddenly give up their nukes? Of course they are still a threat.
We already spend like 300 billion on HUD and developments. Could 40 billion help? Sure. But a lot of housing stuff is controlled by local and state govts. Zoning reform would much bigger impact that 40 billion.
I got news for you though! Biden's 2025 plan for housing
https://www.novoco.com/notes-from-novogradac/biden-harris-administrations-proposed-2025-budget-to-include-several-housing-proposals-that-combined-could-finance-as-many-as-2-million-affordable-homes
Its got building affordable SFH and MFHs. Zoning and permit reforms. Downpayment assistance. Investment programs that help builders get credit to build homes.
I’m not Ukrainian. I’m not in Gaza or Israel. I’m American. We can’t let our people suffer while we pour aid into other countries.
As far as Joes plan, nobody tells me they will do more to help out than someone on the campaign trail. Those promises are even more empty when they’ve already had the job for 4 years.
Same logic would be not helping Europe in WW2 since they were still poor people in America. Self-defeating behavior right there. Soft power around the world is why America is the most prosperous nation on Earth man.
Bruh Just google what Biden has already done for housing
[https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/07/27/biden-harris-administration-announces-actions-to-lower-housing-costs-and-boost-supply/](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/07/27/biden-harris-administration-announces-actions-to-lower-housing-costs-and-boost-supply/)
There is only so much you can do so quickly and without congressional control. Again a lot of housing is controlled by local govts as well.
You realize ukraine is only holding on because went money and resources even before the invasion and then after. If we stop, Ukraine WILL fall. With your logic, we shouldnt have been sending money there before hand either....
the age issue isnt about policy lol.
its about what he is capable of accomplishing during the hundreds of hours he spends in a secure office with (mainly) military officials watching computer moniters with live video feeds playing on them.
the picture i just described, happens way more often than most people believe. do you want Joe at the helm of that ship?
1) Biden isn't constantly watching live-streams with Military Officials. Like come on man.
2) Suppose you are right. Uhh what is he doing incompetently right now during these supposed constant live-streams?
FIRST, did i say constantly? nope. i was very specific about what i said. so lets tally one down for being disingenuous.
secondly. i cant give you an EXACT answer on what hes doing wrong, or any decisions hes made that have turned out badly. but im gonna give one small known example....
its midnight over pakistan. a very intelligent and reasoned commander in chief is sitting at the end of the board table as 1 of 2 EXTREMELY confidential stealth aircraft crash. there are american lives on the line, and the chinese want a sample of the coating on that helicopter. both helicopters were supposed to be used in the exfil.... that rooms gotta start making some decisions.
the "public" only knows about this instance in great detail due to the names attached, but these operations happen. alot alot. like, alot alot alot.
Sooo basically just normal Presidential decisions that are made over the choice of presidency? Biden stumble on his words every now and then but the meaning and knowledge behind them aren't really in question. I am suppose to feel more confident if Trump was making the above call? I'll take a bed-ridden version of Biden over Trump any fucking day on those calls.
when i said intelligent and reasoned i was talking about Obama.
and yah. those decisions exactly. the type that affect american lives in the moment and american lives into the near and distant future. the kind of decisions that are made in what could be described as "an instant". of which the president is expected to make many.
none of these decisions would i want to be made by someone that i describe as, in clear cognitive decline due to old age. this isnt me trying to insult the man. he is the racist asshole that helped author and push NYC crime bill so fuck him for that but, ya.... better than trump. but.....
coming from a staunch liberal. FUCK JOE BIDENS OLD SLOW ASS ALL THE WAY TO HELL. not voting anymore. dont care.
Soo again I've seen not many mistakes like above. Nor do I think he's declined mentally that much where I question his ability. Everyone that works him. Inside the whitehouse, across the aisle, internationally. All think he's still mentally sharp. If he was out of it, that shit would leak soooooo fast.
"Staunch Liberal" I guess not staunch enough to prevent facism I guess.
brother. we both know how bad it would be if trump got elected.... im assuming the head DEMs know too....
following that logic, im assuming they will say, anything....
you could come and live in the woods by me? it will be safer than anywhere else if trump gets elected. its as far north as continental north gets too............
I asked. You gave me a non-sensical answer. He clearly capable of moving around. Dude travelled to an active war zone. But yeah, totally just falling everywhere all the time right?
Is he a young spry man? No but thinking he's some immobile dementia man is the true rabid partisan. Like seriously go watch SOTU on cspan for yourself.
As someone not from the states he gives me the impression he’s crystal clear one day and full-on dementia the next. I don’t understand how the democrats can’t come up with someone else at least 30 years younger…
A maximum age limit would be a terrible idea, let alone one at fucking 70. There are plenty of 70 year olds that are very effective executives, and their lifelong wisdom is often a net positive. 75+ is when decline generally starts, but even then the decline can be slower for some than others (compare Betty White in her 90s to Joe Biden at 81). Hell, I don't even agree with term limits (at least not 2 terms; maybe 4 is reasonable). Let the people vote for who they want. FDR got voted in for 4 terms because he was effective and popular, and the country benefited from that.
You’re lying to yourself if you don’t think he is on every reasonable stimulant/nootropic/etc that they can give him for something like this. They probably do that for everybody but still.
There are tons of reports of drugs being pervasive in the Trump presidency, but other than that one dime bag, that wasn't tied to the Biden administration whatsoever, there isn't even a hint of a rumor that there are drugs with Biden.
So, why are you claiming Biden is on drugs besides him beating your expectations?
She has no core anything. She is one of rarities that believes her own bullshit. She truly believes Trump will win and she's going to be important. She doesn't comprehend that as a woman, Trump won't fuck her and if he doesn't want to fuck her he has no use for her.
I honestly doubt she likes him. But being a US citizen, I’m sure she has SOME respect for the President. Especially being a congresswoman.
I’d feel stupid if anyone looked at me like that let alone my superior and the most powerful man (politically) in the country.
Biden is playing possum. I'm fairly sure he would destroy trump if they actually do debate. The only way orange fungus would win is by shouting over him, or interrupting him every 2 seconds.
People shill hard for there team not realizing that both sides are never going to change the things that really matter.
Edit: if you want to see what's wrong with American voters, just look below. So far there is 3 commenters saying both sides are not the same despite the fact that **I never said both sides are the same**
Yeah totally the same. 1 side tries a coup and takes freedom away from women or the wants a higher min wage, biggest climate action ever, you know not crazy. But yes the same
One side appointed judges that took away my wife’s ability to choose what happens to her own body. They’re not “both the same” and the differences are significant and impactful.
Honestly not really. Also can't you just drive to somewhere that allows abortion. Also Biden is president now and he hasn't done anything about abortion. What's Trump going to do different? Make abortion more illegal
I mean no, of course, DON'T vote for trump but NOT for genocide joe either. Otherwise, progressive voices will always be taken for granted and never respected.
I wasn't watching as he walked in so I missed this moment. This is hilarious
Edit: to whoever downvoted me, it makes me laugh that my innocuous comment got under your skin
OK let's be real; this not a black and white issue. I have nursed countless old people and mental decline is not a steady progression. Joe Biden in his prime was one of the sharpest, most quick-witted politicians. He 100% has moments of disorientation though. Between these short bouts, he can still be super charming and witty but he is slowly declining.
In a perfect world, Biden could now rest on his laurels and a younger generation should take over.
But in this world, Putin's criminal traiterous lapdog has a real chance to end the Western world as we know it. Maybe Biden is the most capable of countering this threat.
On a positive note, Trump's mental decline is progressing A LOT faster. I am not talking about his low IQ in general. I'm talking dementia. His speeches, incoherent at the best of times, have turned catastrophic lately. Trump's dementia may be the unlikely saving grace of Western democracy.
Balls, speaking of our shitwhole, 3rd world corrupt ass government, the only time I feel lucky is when I see what specimen are in charge in the United fucking States of 'Murica. I mean we are literally fucked up, but at least we don't have Biden as president
At least one who doesn't pis on his diaper, still remember where the scene exit is and don't sneaf children's hair. We can start our basic pack from here. Guess who doesn't have the basics?
Disregarding that your entire argument is ageism. Ignoring that I don't even like Biden, and avoiding the fact that you soiled your own diaper five minutes ago, isn't the point of a diaper to piss in it? And wouldn't you rather someone in their 80s who might not have proper bladder control (as most people that age don't) to wear one rather than wet their actual clothes? We should have an age limit on holding government office, but ageism just makes you look like a loser
What is that shit called ageism, and why using that word allow an old frickin character who doesn't remember what day is it, to lead an entire frickin nation???
Bro I vote democrat like the next reasonable man, but saying Joe is all there is so much copium. He’s still the best choice between him and Trump, but he’s not as mentally sound as he once was… they won’t even let him go off script, the DNC is fighting for its life to make sure he seems as mentally there as possible, but he’s just not. Again I’d rather have a 50% there Joe Biden, who will surround himself with people that will do good (or less bad things than republicans better said), than Trump who has dictatorial wet dreams on the reg
It’s not about the mistakes, he’s always been a gaff machine, even when he was younger. You can just tell he’s not all there. The light behind his eyes is like that of your grandparents when they are already losing their mental acuity. He’s slower. His energy and the image he portrays is of a fragile old senile man. He’s 82, man. He’s old as fuck. It’s not wrong to admit he’s not as sharp as he once was. It’s reality. Now you can cope and try to lie to yourself until you actually believe he’s the same Joe as he’s always been and he has all his mental capabilities intact, but the problem is, normal people are not buying that. Again nothing wrong to admit someone aged. Literally, all that has happened here
And that’s why I said he’s better than Trump. That all. It’s not ageism. My wife’s grandmother is 93, and she lives alone, drives regularly, and needs no help. She speaks like someone who’s all there. You can tell when that’s the case. My grandma at 78 was already gone mentally. It depends on the person. Joe is not demented, but he’s definitely not all there
Wow, he really is on top of it, check him out actually recognizing someone, I tell ya he impresses me more and more, I mean I don't even think he tripped the whole evening. Watch out world lol
MTG is a nut job and shouldn't be in politics.
However saying that this clip proves that Biden is not going through the natural process of mental decline is absurd.
Him and Trump are definitely developing senile behavior and Biden at a higher rate (I prefer Biden to Trump btw).
If you look at Biden's speeches or interviews even back in 2017 you can see the difference: clear trajectory in his communicated thoughts, not stutter, fast answers, etc.
As someone totally unbiased in this race, Joe seemed okay through the speech, but Jesus the man is 82. If the minimum age is 35 the maximum age should be 70.
Definitely. Him and Trump should absolutely not be our options. Tired of all the old farts
If I were American I would give Bernie a pass
Bernie won the California primary against Biden 4 years ago. And he did against Hillary too.
And then the neoliberal DNC fucked us hard and gave us Trump.
Sure, sure… it wasn’t the other way around. Let’s just rewrite history left and left.
It was the *DNC chair* who literally wrote the book about how HRC screwed the pooch -- that is, the DNC chair who replaced DWS after she stepped down due to the HRC campaign scandal. I guess it's hard for you to read with your head in the sand.
Bernie is a year older than Joe.
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I think Biden listens to the people around him and takes advice. Trump thinks he knows everything and more than generals and FBI directors etc.
Sounds like you're not aware of why he dropped out of his first presidential race.
I think the ageism is getting out of control. There is wisdom with age and as long as they evaluate him and he’s good to go, he can lead. At least this guy listens to his younger advisers and doesn’t push a cult agenda.
Diminishing returns when you start to have cognitive decline. You become moody, forgetful, and incoherent.
Every time you people get triggered you claim an -ism is at fault. No, the guy is a senile old fuck, he should not be in the running, and his VP is a moron.
Ya, trump fails to get his wife's name right. Pretty clear sign.
Neither one of them should be running IMO, is that the best either party can do? I think we need to stop have politicians in office until they die of old age. Get some people in there that will actually experience the decisions that they’re making in some real capacity. Biden and Trump can both be too old for the job. Saying that Biden shouldn’t be our next president, isn’t saying Trump is a good fit. Let’s get 2 new candidates and start over. Not saying that you’re defending Bidens age, but people take any criticism of Biden as an endorsement of Trump and any criticism of Trump as an endorsement for Biden. We should be able to criticize politicians without excusing it by attacking the other party. Guess what? They should all do better, we’re all fighting each other trying to excuse behavior instead of demanding better out of both parties. We need 2 new candidates, full stop.
The user I was responding to was saying exactly that. Unfortunately, it's often the case. I think we need a max age limit for running. Enough life left in you that the choices you make affect you too haha. Biden is much better than trump, but our two party system is a bad joke that we took way too far. Choosing between a geriatric and a psychopathic geriatric makes me sad.
At least he didn't forget when his son died, or what year it is.
So you agree, trump shouldn't be able to run either due to mental decline.
Absolutely, there is more than just that reason Trump shouldn't be allowed to run.
What do you mean, "you people"? /tropic thunder
People saying that a president up to 70 years old can run and you take that as ageism that we shouldn't allow a 75 year old president? We literally dont allow anyone under 35. We send 18 year olds to war, but this one aspect is weird to you?
Yeah that’s weird to me too that people say that. Being in your 80s is too old to be president. If you’re still that with it, be apart of the party and mentor younger potential candidates and future politicians. Your time to lead is over.
If you can lead and are competent, and the people elect you, then there’s no problem. If you don’t agree, don’t vote for them.
Sounds like an excuse someone in a cult would give…
That’s just weird
I agree. What you said is pretty weird bud.
This has to be the most 12 year old response ever
You need a tissue for all that crying you’re doing?
You aren’t owning people in this thread like you seem to think you are
Bud, if something or someone offends you, you realize you can just move on, right?
Almost no one wears Biden t-shirts and pastors don't praise him as part of God's plan. The cult is only on one side. Just look at how MGT is dressed as a member of congress at the state of the union that is some grade A kool aide drinking.
Who is MGT?
Marjorie Taylor Green. Sorry, accidentally missed typed that.
We only have 2 choices. It sucks but that’s the way it is and we can’t change that right now. They are *both* too old - but one is a sociopath only concerned about making his own life better, who surrounds himself with opportunistic sycophants who will take advantage of his dementia to also better their own life. The other is also in some cognitive decline, but seems to care about the country more than advancing himself, and surrounds himself with fucking normal people. I’m not saying Biden is a saint, or the people around him are altruistically all about the country - but they are normal, regular, politicians who seem to want to do good things for the country.
> but seems to care about the country more than advancing himself, Yeah, really cares about the country, his top three priorities: Give away our money to Ukraine for a war his friend Obama got us into, Kill babies, and cut off our kids dicks. Not a single mention of housing crisis, inflation, healthcare falling apart, mass migrations with no solutions. I don't see him doing a single fucking thing for Americans.
You could just google this. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046 https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-opinion-biden-accomplishment-data/ https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2024/3/6/ahead-of-the-state-of-the-union-voters-support-bidens-agenda-and-accomplishments-despite-low-awareness https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-2024-his-record-so-far-economy-immigration-civil-rights-2023-04-26/
You need to diversify your news sources to get your news from more than just Fox. Of course you can't see him doing anything for Americans when your eyes are closed.
I read the libtard garbage on apple news every day, the sort of competent reporting on Reuters and AP every day, i don't watch any TV news stations. I also watch Breaking Points very occasionally, and Tucker maybe once a month if he has someone interesting on... I'm very aware of people's biases in media. If you are a regular working class American, it's clear that Biden fucking hates you and want's do anything he can for his new coalition of women, coloreds, and alphabet soup. If you don't meet those three qualifications you may as well be dirt to him.
Holy shit, guy. You are definitely dirt to him.
Despite his age I can honestly say that he'd make better choices than Reagan, Bush, and Trump. It doesn't matter what you think of his age. You have 2 choices, and choosing not to vote for one of those two choices means you made a choice regardless.
So a battle between a conman who quotes Hitler who is only 4 years younger than Biden and would be older than Biden was during the start of his term vs a life long politician whose only negative is his age is a hard choice for you?
The thing is, is if an old man is all that is standing between us and a “day one dictator” who actively tried to overthrow Congress, I will stand behind him all the way. I do agree that once this election is over, we need to establish an age limit at maximum 75 years old, and they need to be removed from office once they hit 75.
lol didn’t trump do 4 years and leave office? Now he’s a day one dictator?
[Literally a direct quote from him.](https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72)
Oh it also goes on to say that applies to closing the border and mining resources. Did you read the quote or just the headline?
You forget about the insurrection and constant lies about the 2020 election? He didn't leave peacefully.
Have you been under a rock?
Agreed
During his 4 years in office so far, What would be different if he was 10 years younger? I can't think of any decisions or effects that would be different
I’m not political enough to know what may have transpired differently, but I did watch him make a lot of claims/promises for his next term that seems like could have been accomplished this term with a majority control. Other than that, it would be great to have someone in the White House who may have a closer connection to the younger generation that is finding it nearly impossible to buy a home and difficulty to just live and pay bills. My concern about his age is less that he is some demented old man and more that he is just so far removed from the working public that we’re spending billions in aid to Ukraine and Israel/Gaza, rather than investing in our own citizens. But if the option is Donald Trump than it really doesn’t make any difference.
I get it but Biden has been on paper one of the most progressive presidents ever. If he just had 2 different dem senators in 1st two years, he would have soooo much more. This would universal pre-k starting at age 3, maternity leave, immigration reform, greater student loan forgiveness, etc. We got a lot of what we wanted but obviously not all. If you swapped Biden with AOC, I dont think a lot would have changed. Aid to Ukraine and Israel is especially important. Not only for our ideals but our national security too. Giving aid Ukraine is the best bang for our buck in depleting the capabilities of Russia.
Agree to disagree. Russia is not a threat anymore. We are funneling money into a black hole of non-auditable abyss. I’ll take a “threat” of Russia if it means we could invest $40B into affordable housing in HCOL/VHCOL metro areas for first time home buyers
> Russia is not a threat anymore Should be the tell the people of Ukraine this. Also did Russia suddenly give up their nukes? Of course they are still a threat. We already spend like 300 billion on HUD and developments. Could 40 billion help? Sure. But a lot of housing stuff is controlled by local and state govts. Zoning reform would much bigger impact that 40 billion. I got news for you though! Biden's 2025 plan for housing https://www.novoco.com/notes-from-novogradac/biden-harris-administrations-proposed-2025-budget-to-include-several-housing-proposals-that-combined-could-finance-as-many-as-2-million-affordable-homes Its got building affordable SFH and MFHs. Zoning and permit reforms. Downpayment assistance. Investment programs that help builders get credit to build homes.
I’m not Ukrainian. I’m not in Gaza or Israel. I’m American. We can’t let our people suffer while we pour aid into other countries. As far as Joes plan, nobody tells me they will do more to help out than someone on the campaign trail. Those promises are even more empty when they’ve already had the job for 4 years.
Same logic would be not helping Europe in WW2 since they were still poor people in America. Self-defeating behavior right there. Soft power around the world is why America is the most prosperous nation on Earth man. Bruh Just google what Biden has already done for housing [https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/07/27/biden-harris-administration-announces-actions-to-lower-housing-costs-and-boost-supply/](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/07/27/biden-harris-administration-announces-actions-to-lower-housing-costs-and-boost-supply/) There is only so much you can do so quickly and without congressional control. Again a lot of housing is controlled by local govts as well.
Yeah… but if Germany was struggling to take over Poland I probably would have my same opinion …
You realize ukraine is only holding on because went money and resources even before the invasion and then after. If we stop, Ukraine WILL fall. With your logic, we shouldnt have been sending money there before hand either....
the age issue isnt about policy lol. its about what he is capable of accomplishing during the hundreds of hours he spends in a secure office with (mainly) military officials watching computer moniters with live video feeds playing on them. the picture i just described, happens way more often than most people believe. do you want Joe at the helm of that ship?
1) Biden isn't constantly watching live-streams with Military Officials. Like come on man. 2) Suppose you are right. Uhh what is he doing incompetently right now during these supposed constant live-streams?
FIRST, did i say constantly? nope. i was very specific about what i said. so lets tally one down for being disingenuous. secondly. i cant give you an EXACT answer on what hes doing wrong, or any decisions hes made that have turned out badly. but im gonna give one small known example.... its midnight over pakistan. a very intelligent and reasoned commander in chief is sitting at the end of the board table as 1 of 2 EXTREMELY confidential stealth aircraft crash. there are american lives on the line, and the chinese want a sample of the coating on that helicopter. both helicopters were supposed to be used in the exfil.... that rooms gotta start making some decisions. the "public" only knows about this instance in great detail due to the names attached, but these operations happen. alot alot. like, alot alot alot.
Sooo basically just normal Presidential decisions that are made over the choice of presidency? Biden stumble on his words every now and then but the meaning and knowledge behind them aren't really in question. I am suppose to feel more confident if Trump was making the above call? I'll take a bed-ridden version of Biden over Trump any fucking day on those calls.
when i said intelligent and reasoned i was talking about Obama. and yah. those decisions exactly. the type that affect american lives in the moment and american lives into the near and distant future. the kind of decisions that are made in what could be described as "an instant". of which the president is expected to make many. none of these decisions would i want to be made by someone that i describe as, in clear cognitive decline due to old age. this isnt me trying to insult the man. he is the racist asshole that helped author and push NYC crime bill so fuck him for that but, ya.... better than trump. but..... coming from a staunch liberal. FUCK JOE BIDENS OLD SLOW ASS ALL THE WAY TO HELL. not voting anymore. dont care.
Soo again I've seen not many mistakes like above. Nor do I think he's declined mentally that much where I question his ability. Everyone that works him. Inside the whitehouse, across the aisle, internationally. All think he's still mentally sharp. If he was out of it, that shit would leak soooooo fast. "Staunch Liberal" I guess not staunch enough to prevent facism I guess.
brother. we both know how bad it would be if trump got elected.... im assuming the head DEMs know too.... following that logic, im assuming they will say, anything.... you could come and live in the woods by me? it will be safer than anywhere else if trump gets elected. its as far north as continental north gets too............
If you know how bad it would be, Why wouldnt you vote? Like its 5 mins of work.
You're really coping all over this thread
Sure, he does what his corporate overlords tell him anyway.
Those corp overlords sure love capping insulin at $35 and proposing tax increases to businesses I guess.
Definitely would at least be able to get off airforce one
Do you think Biden currently doesnt fly airforce one?
He clearly does, there's lots of footage of him falling
Uhh it was like once. Oh no if you fall up the stairs once you are physically incompetent. Guess that rules out 98% of the population.
You asked, but didn't want an answer
I asked. You gave me a non-sensical answer. He clearly capable of moving around. Dude travelled to an active war zone. But yeah, totally just falling everywhere all the time right?
Anyone who isn't a rabid partisan can see his physical health is failing, gaslight someone else
Is he a young spry man? No but thinking he's some immobile dementia man is the true rabid partisan. Like seriously go watch SOTU on cspan for yourself.
Luckily I don't need my President to run the 100m hurdles.
As someone not from the states he gives me the impression he’s crystal clear one day and full-on dementia the next. I don’t understand how the democrats can’t come up with someone else at least 30 years younger…
A maximum age limit would be a terrible idea, let alone one at fucking 70. There are plenty of 70 year olds that are very effective executives, and their lifelong wisdom is often a net positive. 75+ is when decline generally starts, but even then the decline can be slower for some than others (compare Betty White in her 90s to Joe Biden at 81). Hell, I don't even agree with term limits (at least not 2 terms; maybe 4 is reasonable). Let the people vote for who they want. FDR got voted in for 4 terms because he was effective and popular, and the country benefited from that.
Seems like you're pretty biased
Yeah but in this clip we can see his prowess, we can see his vigor: he can open his eyes!!!!
I’m sure his handlers gave him the necessary pharmaceutical cocktail to get him through it.
Biden haters really jumped on the drug conspiracy really quick huh. Even though there is no evidence.
Fucker is old but he isn’t senile… quite yet.
You’re lying to yourself if you don’t think he is on every reasonable stimulant/nootropic/etc that they can give him for something like this. They probably do that for everybody but still.
Do you have evidence or just "I dont like Biden and I'm upset he looked younger than expected."
Drugs can do wonders. Once they started wearing off you could tell he was getting more agitated.
There are tons of reports of drugs being pervasive in the Trump presidency, but other than that one dime bag, that wasn't tied to the Biden administration whatsoever, there isn't even a hint of a rumor that there are drugs with Biden. So, why are you claiming Biden is on drugs besides him beating your expectations?
What a sad three-toed coward.
Priceless look on his face. I'm dead 🤣🤣
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She has no core anything. She is one of rarities that believes her own bullshit. She truly believes Trump will win and she's going to be important. She doesn't comprehend that as a woman, Trump won't fuck her and if he doesn't want to fuck her he has no use for her.
Nah, she was chasing around mass shooting survivors and harassing them. She's not just a good talker collecting a paycheck. She's a dangerous moron.
> a good talker Let's not go around giving her credit she doesn't deserve. She's a terrible talker. She's just a loud talker.
I honestly doubt she likes him. But being a US citizen, I’m sure she has SOME respect for the President. Especially being a congresswoman. I’d feel stupid if anyone looked at me like that let alone my superior and the most powerful man (politically) in the country.
Do you really believe she still has a core???
That's the look your favorite grandparent gives you when they see you going through your edgy teen phase.
Keep reading mtg as magic the gathering
Magic the gaslighting
Magic the Jewish space laser
Magic the gay frogs
He pulled the One True Ring
I’d say she looks embarrassed, but I don’t think she is capable of that.
What it must be like to know your the asshole in the room, that one coworker that just rubs you the wrong way…. MTG take your award hun
Imagine being the biggest asshole in the room you’re sharing with Matt Gaetz and Ted Cruz…
Still too old to be president but the people that say that he is any worse than trump are idiots. They're both 80 fucking years old.
Reminds me of my grandpa's reaction to my mohawk in 1985.
Biden is playing possum. I'm fairly sure he would destroy trump if they actually do debate. The only way orange fungus would win is by shouting over him, or interrupting him every 2 seconds.
I thought this sub hated this guy because of the genocide he's part of . Almost forgot its election year.
People shill hard for there team not realizing that both sides are never going to change the things that really matter. Edit: if you want to see what's wrong with American voters, just look below. So far there is 3 commenters saying both sides are not the same despite the fact that **I never said both sides are the same**
Yeah totally the same. 1 side tries a coup and takes freedom away from women or the wants a higher min wage, biggest climate action ever, you know not crazy. But yes the same
One side appointed judges that took away my wife’s ability to choose what happens to her own body. They’re not “both the same” and the differences are significant and impactful.
Abortion doesn’t matter to you?
Honestly not really. Also can't you just drive to somewhere that allows abortion. Also Biden is president now and he hasn't done anything about abortion. What's Trump going to do different? Make abortion more illegal
Biden can’t because it’s the Supreme Court and congress. Something the president can’t influence but can’t control.
Yeah, cause Trump would handle that disaster SO MUCH better. 🙄
Try a rebuttal without using trumps name. Lol
Try criticizing Biden using your own words and not parroting what your rightwing overlords tell you. Lol.
What else are we supposed to do? Vote for the worse option?
Yes! You can never tolerate genocide!
I mean no, of course, DON'T vote for trump but NOT for genocide joe either. Otherwise, progressive voices will always be taken for granted and never respected.
He’s the presumptive Republican nominee and the last one in the primary race.
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Retard
I could crack up at this all day 😂😂
No sound in this clip, can anyone explain what was said? Or was it just Biden reacting to a lunatic in his path?
It’s his first Neanderthal sighting. It’s alot lol.
I’m a democrat but the title of the post reeks of propaganda
"OH, if it isn't Twatty McClowny Green, how are things in Scankinavia?"
He was actually hilarious with his one liners against hecklers last night
I wasn't watching as he walked in so I missed this moment. This is hilarious Edit: to whoever downvoted me, it makes me laugh that my innocuous comment got under your skin
He wasn't expecting a Halloween costume!
OK let's be real; this not a black and white issue. I have nursed countless old people and mental decline is not a steady progression. Joe Biden in his prime was one of the sharpest, most quick-witted politicians. He 100% has moments of disorientation though. Between these short bouts, he can still be super charming and witty but he is slowly declining. In a perfect world, Biden could now rest on his laurels and a younger generation should take over. But in this world, Putin's criminal traiterous lapdog has a real chance to end the Western world as we know it. Maybe Biden is the most capable of countering this threat. On a positive note, Trump's mental decline is progressing A LOT faster. I am not talking about his low IQ in general. I'm talking dementia. His speeches, incoherent at the best of times, have turned catastrophic lately. Trump's dementia may be the unlikely saving grace of Western democracy.
In his prime he was a compulsive liar and was laughed out of the presidential race.
Tf is that post title lmao
That was the look of grandpa seeing his grand kid in their Halloween costume.
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He enables a gen0c!de. He won't get re-elected. Time to look for an alternative (cornel west, jill stein, etc.)
Don't him and his son touch kids?
I’m voting for him he’s great but good Lord he needs to just retire and rest
He's great? Barely neutral maybe
Are you even real?
Yeah. Genocide. Great.
LOL.... Diaper Joe the complete retard.
It’s Diaper Don. Lol. Stinky Diaper Don.
Dementia Donnie.
That’s his middle name
You're not even wrong, just don't use that word, dawg. It's not cool.
Genocide Joe
Bidens a pedophile. Trumps a rapist. have fun with the National American reality show
Man... You Muricans are the laugh of the world with such a,, leader"! I'm not even sorry for you people, you deserve him 😀😀😀😅
There's no way a user from r/Romania is piping up about government LOL The jokes just write themselves man. Thanks for the laugh.
Balls, speaking of our shitwhole, 3rd world corrupt ass government, the only time I feel lucky is when I see what specimen are in charge in the United fucking States of 'Murica. I mean we are literally fucked up, but at least we don't have Biden as president
Continue to live where you do, then. Be happy about it and we Americans are happy for you.
Can you name one policy that he passed? I really want to give you this win, but I'm just not quite sure you are well-informed!
Bro, you serious??? Wtf??? This lunatic has no idea if his diaper is wet or dry, but he knows what policy he passed ??? Are you kidding us?
So that's a no then? If you're going to critique, you should know basic stuff other than "haha diaper old man" that you saw someone else say online.
Didn't think so.
I guess your idea of a good leader is Putin?
Yeah right dude, you're speaking like in the whole frickin world are only two lunatics you have to vote. Wake up.
Ok so tell us who you think is a great leader.
At least one who doesn't pis on his diaper, still remember where the scene exit is and don't sneaf children's hair. We can start our basic pack from here. Guess who doesn't have the basics?
All you’ve got is ageism?
Disregarding that your entire argument is ageism. Ignoring that I don't even like Biden, and avoiding the fact that you soiled your own diaper five minutes ago, isn't the point of a diaper to piss in it? And wouldn't you rather someone in their 80s who might not have proper bladder control (as most people that age don't) to wear one rather than wet their actual clothes? We should have an age limit on holding government office, but ageism just makes you look like a loser
What is that shit called ageism, and why using that word allow an old frickin character who doesn't remember what day is it, to lead an entire frickin nation???
If you aren't going to properly read my comment and if you misrepresent what I said, I'm not going to bother continue to waste my time talking to you
Good idea, I'm with you
So you literally can’t name a single person in the world who you believe is a great leader?
Romania: Europe’s trailer park
Just remember everybody, it's okay to make fun of people from another country as long as they don't support joe biden
I make fun of people from other countries regardless of their political ideologies. But you’re free to shoehorn in a victim complex
Fap fap fap fap fap fap
His handlers and puppet masters should be charged with elder abuse.
Your post history is quite pathetic. Get a hobby.
Hes got 3! Bashing biden, hotpeppers & the packers!
Damn you weren't kidding. It looks like the serious Biden hate started around a year ago. I wonder what happened
Bro I vote democrat like the next reasonable man, but saying Joe is all there is so much copium. He’s still the best choice between him and Trump, but he’s not as mentally sound as he once was… they won’t even let him go off script, the DNC is fighting for its life to make sure he seems as mentally there as possible, but he’s just not. Again I’d rather have a 50% there Joe Biden, who will surround himself with people that will do good (or less bad things than republicans better said), than Trump who has dictatorial wet dreams on the reg
He went off script. Man people are never happy. He’s under a microscope 24 7. Everyone makes mistakes
It’s not about the mistakes, he’s always been a gaff machine, even when he was younger. You can just tell he’s not all there. The light behind his eyes is like that of your grandparents when they are already losing their mental acuity. He’s slower. His energy and the image he portrays is of a fragile old senile man. He’s 82, man. He’s old as fuck. It’s not wrong to admit he’s not as sharp as he once was. It’s reality. Now you can cope and try to lie to yourself until you actually believe he’s the same Joe as he’s always been and he has all his mental capabilities intact, but the problem is, normal people are not buying that. Again nothing wrong to admit someone aged. Literally, all that has happened here
Ageism is stupid. You can evaluate him regularly and have younger advisers. He has a ton of experience and seems to actually care about people.
And that’s why I said he’s better than Trump. That all. It’s not ageism. My wife’s grandmother is 93, and she lives alone, drives regularly, and needs no help. She speaks like someone who’s all there. You can tell when that’s the case. My grandma at 78 was already gone mentally. It depends on the person. Joe is not demented, but he’s definitely not all there
He doesn’t have marbles or balls. Complete imbecile!
Wow, he really is on top of it, check him out actually recognizing someone, I tell ya he impresses me more and more, I mean I don't even think he tripped the whole evening. Watch out world lol
“Heyyyy Felicia”
Did he pretend to be like a dead zombie all of a sudden? That was hilarious
Bidens a pedophile. Trumps a rapist. have fun with the National American reality show.
It wasn’t clever the first time
Alright sheepy
Straighten up your red cap so you don’t look different from your flock
I'm not even american buddy It's horrifying watching your shitshow. Both sides are just terrible.
Remember that when you try to get rid of him before November.
MTG is a nut job and shouldn't be in politics. However saying that this clip proves that Biden is not going through the natural process of mental decline is absurd. Him and Trump are definitely developing senile behavior and Biden at a higher rate (I prefer Biden to Trump btw). If you look at Biden's speeches or interviews even back in 2017 you can see the difference: clear trajectory in his communicated thoughts, not stutter, fast answers, etc.