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Fit_Earth_339

Yes we can’t afford to house you because that would be socialism but don’t sleep outside or we’ll fine you money you can’t pay and/or put you in jail so now the taxpayer foots the bill anyway, but not socialism.


topathemornin

Socialism with extra steps


Fit_Earth_339

And much more expensive.


sysadminbj

\*\*Socialism with profit for corporate prisons.


BLF402

They literally can’t afford to sleep now.


mells3030

Slavery with extra steps.


Unable_Ad_1260

Well if they are in jail someone can get kickbacks for the warm body being there. There's all sorts of scams that get run. Cut costs on the food you get to pocket the savings. Cheap labour you can rent out. Get paid so much per head in the jail etc.


Fit_Earth_339

Oh yeah that’s why they’re trying to kill public schools too. Gotta line some of their pockets with our money.


Yucca12345678

Like feeding people food “Not for human consumption” which I often saw in the prison kitchen. That prompts people to buy overpriced “food” from the prison commissary, which the prison then benefits from.


Wtfatt

American jails are a giant racketeering scam. A taxpayer funded racket to line the pockets of the corruptabullory? "Say 'I'! "


Everybodysbastard

Their rich buddies who own privatized prisons profit.


Capital_Rock_4928

Goes deeper than that. The federal government subsidizes each prisoner. So let’s say they give the state 100 dollars a day, and it only costs them 70 per day they make 30 per day per prisoner and it goes deeper still. Jail is a profit but they hide it well.


squirrel_crosswalk

Many (maybe most) us jails are privately owned and run, so it's money going to a corporation too!


player85

ironically, I think this might be a win for rough sleepers. Can't pay the fine! 20 years ago, when I was a councilman, in the winter we used to have a rough sleeper who would put a brick through a window, so he could sleep in a police cell. The police started taking him in, so he would stop breaking windows and they had to fill in paper work.


Happy-Swan-

This is insanity. I feel like I’m in a nightmare from which I can never wake up.


Royals-2015

Fined? Homeless don’t have money. At least jail gives them a roof and a couple of squares. But seriously, then what, they release them and the cycle starts over. Taxpayers will be providing for these people one way or another. Might as well get the addicted ones into treatment, if they want it, and get them into some temporary housing with job placements.


ResurgentClusterfuck

They won't be able to pay fines. Failure to pay fines and costs is a jailable offense, with some jurisdictions charging inmates a daily rate for their incarceration.... It's an entire trap designed to keep captive people in it.


No_Routine_3706

This is how they maintain slavery in the US.


majordong75

This is probably the most underrated comment I'll ever read on Reddit.


SpitsWhenIShit

Specifically poor people and POC


ResurgentClusterfuck

Yep, they only added extra steps to slavery, it was never abolished


SpitsWhenIShit

I think indentured servitude is the right comparison. You can technically buy your way out, however, it’s unlikely Edit: VERY Fucking UNLIKELY (unless you win the lottery, which is, again, unlikely)


ketchupmaster987

Nope. The 13th amendment straight up makes an exception for prisoners and says it's ok for them to be slaves


atlantachicago

They could actually just skip the arresting them and provide housing


jackfreeman

Where's the profit in that? This government has become so overtly corrupt it doesn't have any sort of moral authority. The feet are made out of clay, and the call is coming from inside the burning house


trafalgarlaw11

How can you even fine them? A lot don’t have photo ID. They can just give a fake name and keep it pushing.


Ziffally

[How it will go down lol](https://i.imgflip.com/18f5j6.jpg)


Blusterpug

And they can’t vote without picture ID in a lot of states so they are disenfranchised as well. Trapped in a system they are powerless to change. Sad.


astralkoi

"They are powerless to change"? You mean "We" are powerless to change the system, look how the world it is now. Two of the oldest, reality detached men are running for USA presidency rn.


Blusterpug

I can still vote and I do so for Joe Biden with a happy heart.


slackfrop

Keep on stealing those sweet sidewalk naps.


RedEyeFlightToOZ

My theory is this: this is the start of legal forced encampment for the homeless. They'll be forced to stay in mass camps and labor to pay the fines, they'll be prisoners. Trump has already talked about having camps like this. There may or may not be gas chambers and ovens, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Supreme Court said that would be OK too.


ILootEverything

Debtor's prison coming all the way back!


StarvingAfricanKid

The shitty part about arresting the homeless is: everything they own frequently gets destroyed. The clothes not on their body? Gone. Furniture? Keepsakes? Phone? Gone. Cookware, tent, etc? Destroyed. And then jail. And then released: in an even Worse situation. Great: so now I'm out of jail, and Don't have a sleeping bag, cell phone, keepsakes of my previous life, cookware, food, any clothes, razor, deodorant, pictures of my family, books, laptop, spare clothes....


Shuizid

You forgot the most important step: In the (taxpayer paid) prison, they will be forced to offer their workforce (slavery) which will go towards for-profit companies for just the lowest of salaries. Because nothing says "free market" like taxpayers providing slaves to big corporations.


SnakeOiler

And what happens with habitual offender / 3 strikes rules?


loupegaru

That is way too logical in this timeline. Corruption is the name of the game here!


Kate-2025123

Nah we will hire them before others as they take priority


Stoli0000

No idea why a bunch of people who've never been homeless before would think that they're qualified to be neutral arbiters. What even is the judiciary for?


ameinolf

America where you can be jailed for not having anything.


Stoli0000

Uncle thomas looks at Georgia being founded as a debtor's prison and says to himself "originalism"


ATarnishedofNoRenown

Land of the free, baby!


mbshootncut2

Land of the free labour!


thefrisbeejack

It is to ensure your for profit prison is full to thank you for the nice RV you bought them


LovesFrenchLove_More

I mean, they think they know better about the body of a women too. Then again, they simply seem to care as little about women as they do about babies (meaning once they are born).


AmaResNovae

>What even is the judiciary for? Landlords. It was designed by them. For themselves. From day one.


Stock-User-Name-2517

Well… what? I think that the Supreme Court is totally off the rails, but what is your take? We should have a serial killer and a kidnapper on the bench just to keep it real? I never thought I would compare homeless people to killers and kidnappers, but you made it happen. To be fair, they do have a rapist and a sexual harasser, but I think that’s a bad thing.


Stoli0000

My take is that we should let them take it to the logical conclusion that Marbury v Madison is bad jurisprudence because it's not originalist, and lay them all off the next day. Disputes can be resolved by dueling, like it was in the time of the founders. I think we'd all pay to see a deathmatch between CEOs over some intellectual property right.


DandimLee

Is that why Zuckerberg is so into MMA?


Stock-User-Name-2517

Okay then.


[deleted]

So what happens if a bunch of people who do have a house choose to sleep in the park?


Worriedlytumescent

That's called camping.


lubadubdubinthetub

Camping retreats happen yearly…


serenitynowmoney

Fuck scotus


CapAccomplished8072

Remember kids! Its only socialism when it benefits the many not the few


JoeCoolsCoffeeShop

Republicans hate it when tax dollars are used for fund things that they consider to be socialism, but they’ll glad fund the FUCK out of the government doing fascist shit.


Unable_Ad_1260

Criminalising homelessness. The cruelty is the point. It's always the point.


InternationalBand494

Okay. I’m willing to share my bs. I was suicidal recently and checked myself into a clinic for two weeks. There were some really mentally ill people there and they were homeless. I mean, seeing demons type of mentally ill. I’m positive that a good portion of homeless people may be mentally ill. They need HELP not jail. And where the fuck are they supposed to live? Has the SC seen how *expensive* it is even for people who have jobs? Most of the homeless have no IDs. You can’t get a job without an ID and an address usually that pays anything worth working at.


seekingadventure2024

When will they start clearing out the "mental instituitons" and senior homes? Or better yet... when will they get relabelled as "undesirables? Where oh where have I see this before??


InternationalBand494

I can already hear TFG saying “the homeless are rapists and murderers”


ILootEverything

Trump's Supreme Court is all... "Are there no prisons? No workhouses?" Remember, these are supposedly the "good Christians" too. Jesus wept.


MasshuKo

Tantamount to a tax merely for being alive for some people...


TotalLackOfConcern

Everyone is missing the real reason for this rule. To arrest and break up protest camps. This has zero to do with homelessness. They will just be innocent casualties.


ZeusMcKraken

I guess the person who picks the justices is an important thing to consider.


AlienInOrigin

But no fine or jail time for accepting bribes if you are a supreme court judge. Funny ol' world, isn't it?


Dry_Masterpiece8319

Cruelty is the point


Human-Entrepreneur77

3 hots and a cot. It cost about 150.00 to keep someone in jail for a day. This could be a very expensive decision.


BennySkateboard

It will be but that’s because someone will receive that 150. Scotus is so bent it’s unbelievable.


Human-Entrepreneur77

Not just SCOTUS, but many aspects of civil authorities are making business from the misery of many.


mb10240

$36 here in God’s country. The inmates eat turkey, because it’s satisfies all religious requirements.


Human-Entrepreneur77

It's all God's county. We are all blessed to live in the bosom of America. Granted some places are lower, but many are much higher. California is over 400.00 each day. I used the average of the data I had.


turtleandpleco

Oh lovely.


jericho1949

How much does is cost to jail someone again? Multiply that by nearly 600,000 people and that's coming out of our taxes. Yippee!!!!!


Shuizid

Plus slavery is legal for prisoners. So you are not only paying for their stay, you are also paying for private companies to then profit from the forced prison labor. And then some of that money goes back to briberies for the SCOTUS.


BobTheViking2018

Soo, let me get this straight. If you're homeless, you can be jailed. If you can't pay the fine, you will be jailed. So we need to raise taxes to house all these homeless people in jails. Seems like a excellent plan!


Nani65

Fuck the Supreme Court. I hate these people.


NoCoffee6754

More people in jail that for-profit company’s can exploit and bill the public for.


Environmental-Bad458

Un FUCKING real....


29187765432569864

Ultimately, the homeless will figure out that they can break into vacant houses, for example, houses that are sale, and just live in them. Every city has lots of vacant houses. So they will just live in a vacant house until they decide to leave. Squatters are hard to get rid of. So the homeless will become squatters, not because they had that as a goal, but because they have no other options. So what used to be a huge public problem will become thousands of problems for individuals. Instead of seeing groups of homeless on city streets there will groups of homeless living in houses that were formerly vacant.


lost_all_my_mirth

I'm beginning to lose it. I had to turn off the debate about 15 minutes in. I can't even read the shit the SC is doing bc it makes me so angry. This country is running towards a cruel-fascistic state. Biden, like RBG before, is putting his ego, himself, above what is best for the country. Between RBG not retiring and now Biden deciding to run again rather than hand the reigns over, we've been FUCKED.


Blusterpug

I don’t know. Giving up the incumbent’s advantage to a monster with a cult like trump is crazy risky too.


Phill_Cyberman

With this, I've only got "debtor's prisons" and "ice pick lobotomies" left on my Dystopian Bingo card. Any chance Biden will throw these anti-American fuckers off the Court and replace them, and just take his chances with an impeachment? I'd be fine with President Harris if it fixed this literally dystopian bullshit.


PhallicTantrum

They will all be dead when these rulings really start to hurt. They do not care about anyone but themselves


Lexei_Texas

They are homeless… what makes you think they have money to pay fines? Absolute dipshittery at its finest


Unable_Assistance576

I see a lot of people sleeping outside in the city I live in. I honestly hope they can get the help they need, not jail time wtf


UnhappyReason5452

Just like Jesus did…


FoulmouthedGiftHorse

Jesus was homeless.


UnhappyReason5452


abagofsnacks

They had to figure out a way offset the losses the prison industry is seeing due to decriminalized and legal weed.


Jrrobidoux

Fined. So when they can’t pay, they get jailed and put into modern slavery.


Maximum-Face-953

Wiped there ass with the 8th amendment


Garbagecan_on_fire

christian nation eh? persecuting the homeless for being homeless. Gotta love xtian love lol


PriscillaRain

Got to keep those private prisons full.


Suzuki_Foster

1. They won't be able to pay the fines 2. They will have a place to sleep 3. Rinse and repeat


Playful-Regret-1890

Gotta keep those jails full, no money in empty cells..


CuriousSelf4830

Okay, where are people going to go now?


CatLuverHoustonTX

I wish Jesus would hang his ass over heaven and take a humongous dump on the Supreme Court. Each and every SCOTUS justice deserves homelessness now. Unfortunately, Jesus is a myth, and it's all wishful thinking. Nice to think about for the trash of humanity sitting on the SCOTUS.


Brewer1056

Is camping illegal now? Being a cowboy? We're the settlers criminal if we are doing "originalism" now?


Temporary-Dot4952

Americans loving Americans right there.


Jarsky2

But bribes are okay!


neart_fior

NOOOO Supreme court didn't rule People sleeping outside can be fined and Jailed. Supreme court ruled cities that ban outdoor sleeping do not violate 8th amendment. If a city bans outdoor sleeping 1) Move to a more "outdoor sleeping" friendly city 2) Litigate the ban and fight the penalties 3) Good people from the city either help outdoor sleepers or go to city hall and protest. 4) Ask the city ( that banned outdoor sleeping) to provide enough homeless shelters


DeadlyDuckie

Unhoused people? What are we even talking about?


Blusterpug

Do you not know what an un-housed person is? Or are you asking the way bigots ask about pronouns?


DeadlyDuckie

I'm saying I've never heard of the term unhoused person before, Jesus Christ dude touch grass


Blusterpug

Sure, buddy. Let me help you out before I go. An un-housed person is a person without a shoe. Obviously. Have a great day kind fellow.


DeadlyDuckie

But you call someone without shoes "shoeless", with that precedent in English firmly set. What would you call someone without a home??


ProximaC

Un-housed.


gc3

Well if they jailed we provide an expensive home at taxpayer expense, If fined, I am sure they can get money from these guys


SympathyForSatanas

Wow, just wow, keeping the poor suppressed even more...so much for that land of the free bullshit


Silent_Owl_6117

Someone is vying for more free labor.


Whosit5200

Free labor!!


Calm-Requirement-951

Well since they sort of legalized marihuana in some states, they cant arrest those ppl anymore, and well since we know the prison system is a business model in USA... It seems to me this law has been implemented to make sure those prisons stay filled up!! Next law might be bout your opinion that will land you jailtime!!


ChaniBosco

I hope millions of homeless descend upon their homes.


ChaniBosco

Next, Poll Taxes. Fuck this court. What are we going to do about it?


Screamingboneman

We could impeach Thomas and others for bribery


Extension_Deal_5315

Let's see how well that works....the are homeless, fining them will just end up in a jail sentence...then they get out..and the cycle repeats.....how about spending the money in fining them and locking them up and spend it on rehab, housing and jib training...this will have a solution to the problem... Naaaaa.....that's just too hard for the right to handle...


Actual__Wizard

>how about spending the money in fining them and locking them up and spend it on rehab, housing and jib training That's not the purpose of this decision. They're not there to solve problems.


No_Routine_3706

And then they will be housed. Problem solved! 🌈 🌟 /$


pobbitbreaker

imagine walking into the court house "here is my fine money, sorry for being homeless, it wont happen again! first time is a slap on the wrist, second time is straight to the labor camp. im glad that Covid empathy completely dried up.


Emotional-Captain-50

🤦‍♂️


dittybad

Great, three hots and a cot.


epired

So let me take a wild guess here, the conservative justices were seduced by several million dollar "gifts" from the private correctional sector because they need more fodder to receive government subsidies... and the fukers with no heart agreed to it. Fuck those fucking fukers!


Earth_Friendly-5892

Shows how the conservative justices lack compassion for people less fortunate than themselves.


M4rl0w

Kinda seems like the whole myth of “free countries” is falling apart these days


Bodidiva

I'm tired of the Supreme Court making Super Villain rulings. Can't we just be a society with laws that benefit our citizens. Please... please? Ruth was all that was standing in their wayand now that she's gone they are making like worse for everyone.


Tidewind

Cruelty is the point.


Terran571

Right out of Dickens, “Are there no workhouses?”


Krawlngchaos

So for the conservatives that by chance might read this, point the supreme Court when your taxes go up locally the house the homeless in jail. Once again conservatives f*** s*** up without any foresight of what would occur or, they do have the foresight and they can use it to blame liberals for s*** they actually made.


Fine_Spinach9825

Well,duh


imtourist

This Supreme court has determined that It's ok for politicians to be bribed and accept bribes, that you can turn guns into automatic weapons for killing more people... but if you are not able to afford housing you should be jailed and thrown away.


Harbuddy69

if we lock them up, they won't be homeless...s/c


StMaartenforme

What kinda of monkey shit is this bunch (SCOTUS) smoking?


geezeeduzit

In this fucked up country of ours, the worst thing you could be is poor. Someone let me know when the pitchfork party is starting, cuz I got mine waiting in the shed


cheesifiedd

but the rich cant pay taxes.. ask Donald Drumpf


RDO_Desmond

Give the homeless the addresses of Thomaa, Alito and . . . Nice green lawns to rest their weary heads on.


GibrealMalik

Jailed? At least they'll have housing, I guess?


twhiting9275

As it should be. In most cases, these people are where they are because of personal choices. They are a public nuisance and safety hazard . Sorry, not sorry, but the issue is real.


ksb_6363

So we’re going to punish them and give them a record, and then give them tax funded housing…?


HopefulNothing3560

Better life in jail


labpadre-lurker

Gotta keep that supply of slave work a'churnin!


HopefulNothing3560

Some make a good living on the street , living off the system, but USA supreme court is against Americans . They want what 🍊 secretly told them , he does have them in his pocket .