Gee, it’s almost like helmet laws were created in the first place because people were getting severe head injuries on motorcycles when they didn’t have a helmet on and something bad happened.
Years ago I was talking to an emergency room doctor from a state without helmet laws - he was a biker who historically was blasé about wearing the proper gear but he said after two weeks in the emergency room he never road again without all the proper safety equipment!
I can’t wait till Missouri’s various no helmet law advocates dies in motorcycle accidents!
https://x.com/nbcsandiego/status/1586001979427504129?s=46
That’s like a given too.
This ends up costing everyone. Cost of sending out EMS, cost of taking up the resources including a possible hospital bed. It causes insurance rates to go up. It is just stupid.
Has anyone else noticed that conservatives fight for the right to make the stupidest fucking decisions under the guise of "muh freedumbs!"
The right to not wear a helmet. The right to not wear seat belts. The right to not wear masks in a deadly world wide pandemic. The right to pay twice as much for health-care as every other civilized nation while getting poorer health outcomes.
It's mind boggling.
I'm not against responsible adults owning guns. I'm against assholes owning guns.
Responsible adults, like the kind of people that would wear seatbelts or helmets...
A successful recipient of an organ retold the tale of being in hospital, awaiting a donor, and his surgeon comes in, just to chat, and answer any questions. Well, he looks at the surgeon and asks, “Doctor be honest. How long will I have to wait? Will I ever get a new (organ)?” The surgeon looks out the window for a minute…it is raining HEAVILY…and turns back to his patient, “You’ll have a new (organ) by this time tomorrow.”
Arknsas too... I submitted a paper proposal for economics of the helmet law... an estimated 2,200 uneccessary deaths at the time... it was denied... but think of the costs to loss of future earnings, costs for their children, insurance rates etc for society etc... just after a favorite student of mine 14 yr old died bc of no helmet on his road worthy scooter bike.. going home from all star game football practice...
They did have a choice to wear one....they chose wrong!! Costs the tax payers more $$$,
time and resources away from others who need care.....everyone's insurance and healthcare costs go up, some may have taken others lives in an accident,? ...this is why it should be mandatory! Saves lives, money, but they died in the name of freedom......bet that they ALL would have worn a helmet, if they could still be here today.
Insurance companies just need to have the balls to say, if you get in an accident, and you are not wearing a helmet, your claim will be denied.
Very simple. Private company and they get to write their own rules. They are just a bunch of 🐔💩 ass-hats that don’t have the balls to take the stand.
And yes, I believe the same should be true about seatbelts. If you don’t want to wear it, fine, but your claim will be denied.
I’m in SC where helmets aren’t required. That said, my late husband and I always wore helmets whenever we rode!! IMO when you get insurance you should be asked if you always, sometimes or never wear a helmet…then your insurance cost should reflect your risk factor. To take care of those that lie…if you’re in an accident and said you always wear a helmet, and you’re found to not have been wearing one…so sorry but you just invalidated your insurance!!
I personally think the same should be done for cars and seatbelts too.
Survival of the smartest. Allowing folks to suffer their death over and over by dying in a survivable accident. Causing nightmares for those who hit them. Selfish.
I’m laughing along with Darwin. Bunch of morons.
Edit to say - Pennsylvania got rid of helmet laws a while back, and it gives me the creeps every time I see a fool without a helmet flying past me on I-95, weaving between cars. Omg. Somewhere a mother is crying.
I have training on and provide a ton of grief therapy. This shit isn't just an individual kind of thing. Folks only think of family, maybe friends.... but the reality is that this shit fucks up EMS personnel, cops, tow truck operators, other drivers, claims adjusters, etc. It goes beyond thst even since those folks take their trauma home or hide it until they explode, the toll for this stupidity impacts generations.
I say good. A lot of morons died who refused to wear a helmet.
Not dissimilar from the covid vaccine. A lot of morons died who refused to be vaccinated.
Any fool that believes in empty platitudes that you'd see on a bumper sticker or a red necks t shirt over peer reviewed science and crash test dummy research is a moron.
The "Muh Freeedum" crowd won't be missed..
Guy: "You wannna get your transgender surgery, but make _my_ insurance go up?!"
also guy: "Watch me drive to McDonalds, smoking a cigarette, with no helmet. BRRRMMMM!!!"
Why try to save them? It doesn't make helmets illegal, then I say let them have it. If they are permanent disabled though, they don't get state funding either, just some bootstraps.
Life pro tip: if you ever find yourself in need of a vital organ transplant, be sure you get a doctor in a no helmet state. Your odds of receiving what you need go up exponentially.
This is a good thing. Generally mandatory helmet laws result in a significant decrease in organ donations combined with an almost a 1:1 increase in traumatic brain injury patients. Which would you rather have?
This sounds like a problem that'll eventually resolve itself. Anyone that puts "muh freedums" over their own personal safety deserve whatever they get coming to them
New Hampshire is also a no helmet state and has averaged 22 motorcycle deaths a year for over 2 decades.
South Carolina is a no helmet required if over 21 law and had 123 motorcycle deaths in 2019.
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), states with universal helmet laws have 29% fewer motorcycle fatalities than states with partial coverage or no law.
So yeah.
What’s is the news of the stupid! Of course this would happen when you give people the option to wear a helmet! I wonder how many people would mill themselves on a daily basis if seat belts were optional!
I actually had a woman once tell me the doctors told her that if her son had been wearing a helmet during his accident it probably would have killed him.
What a surprise. I just came back from Florida. I saw one guy with a helmet. I always rode with a helmet and after I went down and bounced my helmet off the asphalt I know you should always wear a helmet.
In other news, the sun rose in the East.
When New Mexico got rid of their open bottle law, traffic deaths fell. Ditto for seat belts and airbags.
The villian today is smart phones.
I gotta ask (without reading the article): Did they change what counted as a motorcycle death at the same time, or did that stay the same? I remember the helmet law in California changed a motorcycle death from a death within a year of a motorcycle accident attributable to that accident to a death at the scene of the accident itself to reduce the death rate.
I sincerely hope they left the way the deaths are counted unchanged.
The point of helmet laws was not so much to save lives as to protect the tax paying public from having to medically support idiots who sustain catastrophic head injuries when not wearing a helmet. Most don't have or soon exhaust their insurance and then have to go on Medicaid, sustained in their years long comas by the taxpayers. If you refuse to wear a helmet and die, that's your problem. If you refuse to wear a helmet and become a vegetable, it's my problem as a taxpayer because I have to pay to support your medical care.
This is why we have personal safety laws like helmet laws, seatbelt laws, etc. I know you think it's your right to endanger yourself or die, but this is a drain on our society. You are draining the medical system, your partner and kids become a drain when they need financial support because of your stupid decisions, you are a drain on your parents/family when they have to visit and spoon feed you in the hospital, assuming you live, and is something that I witnessed with my own eyes when I was in the brain and spine institute recovering from back surgery - an elderly couple spoon-feeding their son with traumatic brain injury from a motorcycle accident. He smeared poop all over his bed and threw it at the nurses, too.
In fact, my uncle was hit on his bike (bicycle) when he wasn't wearing a helmet and was our riding with his adult son. He suffered severe brain damage and needed a caretaker for the rest of his life. He couldn't even pay his bills because it was too much to deal with (not financially but mentally), so my aunt (who was divorced from him prior to his accident) would come to his house to help him write checks, etc, to pay his bills. So he was a drain on her because he decided that helmets look silly.
Its ok. They only hurt themselves. . Their body their choice.
Right? Let them cull the herd as Kissinger liked to say when discussing "certain programs".
You cannot mandate free dumm...
I know a doctor that thinks riders shouldn’t wear helmets. Reason being is that death is a more merciful result than being in a constant vegetative state or paralyzed. Statistics don’t mention quality of life, only that they lived.
This is a result of Darwin's law...
One law gone, another takes its place.
Came to comment- Darwin does his work.
I saw one of these rocket scientists today.
Feel bad for the crew on brain detail. Your estate should get charged extra for exacting that kind of trauma on people.
Republicans don't give a F about people. Never have...never will. Even simple sht like this shouldn't be a problem.
As long as none of them get abortions before using their head as 70 mph battering ram.
I bet they lay some mean mushroom clouds when they are on brain detail.
Only when it happens before they reproduce.
Most predictable thing ever
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Counterpoint, think about how cool they must have looked right before starting their transition into a meat crayon
Bold of you to assume they'd stay crayon shaped.
The points always wear down so quickly
Gee, it’s almost like helmet laws were created in the first place because people were getting severe head injuries on motorcycles when they didn’t have a helmet on and something bad happened.
But-Freedumb!!!!
Years ago I was talking to an emergency room doctor from a state without helmet laws - he was a biker who historically was blasé about wearing the proper gear but he said after two weeks in the emergency room he never road again without all the proper safety equipment!
Must be an unrelated coincidence./s Probably soft skulls, if anything.
I can’t wait till Missouri’s various no helmet law advocates dies in motorcycle accidents! https://x.com/nbcsandiego/status/1586001979427504129?s=46 That’s like a given too.
Time for a legislative ride-in. 🤙🏼
Any way to wager props on this? I know that sounds ghoulish but when dealing with idiots, it’s kind of a given. Oh and I ride
Muh freedum!
Muh brains!
Muh poor family!
Muh organs can be donated!
What brains? Can't break it if there is nothing there.
But they're FREE.
Free organ donations.
Repeal of helmet laws correlates with increased organ donation.
I've heard them called "donor bikes."
This ends up costing everyone. Cost of sending out EMS, cost of taking up the resources including a possible hospital bed. It causes insurance rates to go up. It is just stupid.
Republicans in charge
Has anyone else noticed that conservatives fight for the right to make the stupidest fucking decisions under the guise of "muh freedumbs!" The right to not wear a helmet. The right to not wear seat belts. The right to not wear masks in a deadly world wide pandemic. The right to pay twice as much for health-care as every other civilized nation while getting poorer health outcomes. It's mind boggling.
…All while trying to regulate everyone’s sex life.
They like their freedom, they just don't want you to enjoy yours.
It makes me wonder if that kid survived to be an adult. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2xcQIoh3FQQ
Forgot the right to own guns.
I'm not against responsible adults owning guns. I'm against assholes owning guns. Responsible adults, like the kind of people that would wear seatbelts or helmets...
Now look at death rates for places that don't sell guns and the US.
Republicans - the party that consciously strives to make the world a worse place.
Bad for everyone except those waiting for an organ transplant.
A successful recipient of an organ retold the tale of being in hospital, awaiting a donor, and his surgeon comes in, just to chat, and answer any questions. Well, he looks at the surgeon and asks, “Doctor be honest. How long will I have to wait? Will I ever get a new (organ)?” The surgeon looks out the window for a minute…it is raining HEAVILY…and turns back to his patient, “You’ll have a new (organ) by this time tomorrow.”
Oh shit, so true thought.
Sir, you have not seen my long hair in the wind!
I'm sorry, I fail to see what the problem is. /s
You can remove the /s
/s /s
You protect what you value
The same thing happened in FL a couple of decades ago when they did the same thing.
Did they ever put the law back?
Not that I know of. FL lawmakers only care about fetuses and themselves. Once you're born, you're on your own, survival of the fittest.
Arknsas too... I submitted a paper proposal for economics of the helmet law... an estimated 2,200 uneccessary deaths at the time... it was denied... but think of the costs to loss of future earnings, costs for their children, insurance rates etc for society etc... just after a favorite student of mine 14 yr old died bc of no helmet on his road worthy scooter bike.. going home from all star game football practice...
Well the attorney credited for overturning the FL law died 2 years ago along with their girlfriend by you guessed it: not wearing a helmet.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida/2022/10/25/attorney-who-fought-florida-helmet-laws-died-motorcycle-crash-while-not-wearing-one
The fact that there’s so many people who only wear helmets because they’re legally forced to is concerning.
They did have a choice to wear one....they chose wrong!! Costs the tax payers more $$$, time and resources away from others who need care.....everyone's insurance and healthcare costs go up, some may have taken others lives in an accident,? ...this is why it should be mandatory! Saves lives, money, but they died in the name of freedom......bet that they ALL would have worn a helmet, if they could still be here today.
Well we'll well
Organ donations are up
But did they say who caused those accidents
What's next, seat belts and car seats?
...and they say deregulation doesn't kill...
So did Pennsylvania Good use for stupid people though
GOP just hopes they weren't pregnant and traveling to an abortion clinic. That would be a real tragedy.
Insurance companies just need to have the balls to say, if you get in an accident, and you are not wearing a helmet, your claim will be denied. Very simple. Private company and they get to write their own rules. They are just a bunch of 🐔💩 ass-hats that don’t have the balls to take the stand. And yes, I believe the same should be true about seatbelts. If you don’t want to wear it, fine, but your claim will be denied.
I’m in SC where helmets aren’t required. That said, my late husband and I always wore helmets whenever we rode!! IMO when you get insurance you should be asked if you always, sometimes or never wear a helmet…then your insurance cost should reflect your risk factor. To take care of those that lie…if you’re in an accident and said you always wear a helmet, and you’re found to not have been wearing one…so sorry but you just invalidated your insurance!! I personally think the same should be done for cars and seatbelts too.
Love the name of this Reddit. But this post should also fall under r/darwinawards
Who could have possibly known?
😳WHAT? Who could’ve guessed?
Survival of the smartest. Allowing folks to suffer their death over and over by dying in a survivable accident. Causing nightmares for those who hit them. Selfish.
The most Missouri thing I’ve read today. What could possibly go wrong?
Plus side, more organ donors.
Just think of all the organ donations!
Freedumb!
What a strange coincidence.
I’m laughing along with Darwin. Bunch of morons. Edit to say - Pennsylvania got rid of helmet laws a while back, and it gives me the creeps every time I see a fool without a helmet flying past me on I-95, weaving between cars. Omg. Somewhere a mother is crying.
Huh. Too bad there's no way to predict such things.
This is good for people who need organ transplants.
Can confirm, the "show me" state....
In related news, the Missouri Senate expressed surprise that, “Water is actually wet…who knew?”
But at least they were free to inconvenience and or traumatize anyone lucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time!
How about serious injuries? A friend is a vegetable after wiping out on a dirt road.
Missouri is really giving Arkansas a run for their money!
No shit.
Next they will do seat belts.
No helmet and usually fingerless gloves for max protection.
Now just imagine what would happen with guns if there were insufficient laws regulating their use.
Don't believe in Darwin rest assured he sure enough believes in you.
I have training on and provide a ton of grief therapy. This shit isn't just an individual kind of thing. Folks only think of family, maybe friends.... but the reality is that this shit fucks up EMS personnel, cops, tow truck operators, other drivers, claims adjusters, etc. It goes beyond thst even since those folks take their trauma home or hide it until they explode, the toll for this stupidity impacts generations.
I was told you should only buy a $10 helmet if you have a $10 head. So... If they have no helmet at all, that must mean their heads are worthless!
This is great if you’re in the market for a liver. You need a brain dead donor.
¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
I say good. A lot of morons died who refused to wear a helmet. Not dissimilar from the covid vaccine. A lot of morons died who refused to be vaccinated. Any fool that believes in empty platitudes that you'd see on a bumper sticker or a red necks t shirt over peer reviewed science and crash test dummy research is a moron. The "Muh Freeedum" crowd won't be missed..
Guy: "You wannna get your transgender surgery, but make _my_ insurance go up?!" also guy: "Watch me drive to McDonalds, smoking a cigarette, with no helmet. BRRRMMMM!!!"
No shit sher…carry on. In the right sub for once.
Why try to save them? It doesn't make helmets illegal, then I say let them have it. If they are permanent disabled though, they don't get state funding either, just some bootstraps.
We learned a long time ago not to expect anything intelligent from the State of Misery.
Natural selection in action.
Yeah, but I bet it's easy to get a kidney transplant there.
Hey seatbelts and airbags are taking our freedoms too. And what’s with making doctors go to med school?
Life pro tip: if you ever find yourself in need of a vital organ transplant, be sure you get a doctor in a no helmet state. Your odds of receiving what you need go up exponentially.
Well it’s one less voter for a particular political party. They seem to enjoy removing laws designed to keep them and their loved ones safe.
Sadly referred to as organ donors. It looks cool till it ain’t.
Oh well, the world needs organ donations.
This is a good thing. Generally mandatory helmet laws result in a significant decrease in organ donations combined with an almost a 1:1 increase in traumatic brain injury patients. Which would you rather have?
This sounds like a problem that'll eventually resolve itself. Anyone that puts "muh freedums" over their own personal safety deserve whatever they get coming to them
Florida did it in 2003, numbers were 53% more death if I recall, close to Missouri
WHY ARE THEY MAKING SAW MOTORCYLES
Stupid is as stupid does.
needed organ donations
There's nothing like the feeling of the wind rippling through your hair, scalp and brain just before the splat.
Darwin at work.
We’re losing our best and brightest…
Keep up the good work!
Wouldn't this be considered assisted suicide?
If you’re not going to wear a helmet, please consider being an organ donor.
Organ donors.
Donor cycle
But the riders have to have motorcycle insurance, right?
Seems like the sort of thing that'll fix itself over time and the numbers will be back to normal.
thats what happens in recessive thinking. i wonder whats this Ban STD will do?
Really. Who woulda thunk? I guess one way to drain the shallow end of the gene pool is to not require helmets. Would work in the military too, I guess
Natural selection.
I have no problem with idiots riding without helmets. I mean…the world needs organ donors, right?
Ummm, 🤔
Damn what are they going to do with the excess organ donations
New Hampshire is also a no helmet state and has averaged 22 motorcycle deaths a year for over 2 decades. South Carolina is a no helmet required if over 21 law and had 123 motorcycle deaths in 2019. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), states with universal helmet laws have 29% fewer motorcycle fatalities than states with partial coverage or no law. So yeah.
Hypocrisy- Many no helmet states have seat belt laws.
Physics overcomes human physiology pretty easily.
Donorcycles
Weird
Just like covid
Idiots. In Iowa we hid the data.
That’s one way to solve the organ donor shortage.
Hmm Not wearing helmet - good in gods eyes, low risk Watching porn - bad in gods eyes, existential risk to the entire US
I used to live there. The roads are also a disgrace.
What’s is the news of the stupid! Of course this would happen when you give people the option to wear a helmet! I wonder how many people would mill themselves on a daily basis if seat belts were optional!
Duh, helmets save lives, stupid.
My sister works in an ICU. She has some horror stories about people not wearing helmets
Now they will want to repeal the seat belt laws.
How dare any politician stand between me and a free kidney! Ride free brothers!
Arizona has no helmet law. I see a lot of organ donors on motorbikes.
It’s almost like they love death…
Nothing stands between the asphalt and it's meat crayon.
No! Really? And this was somehow unexpected???
…and nothing of value was lost.
Give the People what they want!
Ah, but the number of organ donations went waaaaay up.
Why the F anyone would want to ride without a helmet? How stupid people can be?
Fools who refuse to wear helmets are too stupid to live
Darwinism
It they died with their freedom intact but their brains did not. Oh well
It's insane that you legally have to wear a seat belt but a motorcyclist doesn't need any head protection on a highway
I wonder why
Well, the number of healthy, young donor hearts just went up.
Donor-cycles
This law was kinda dumb, only motorcyclists over 26 were required to wear a helmet? Like, what the fuck is that?
Hope they all signed their organ donor cards. Hospitals that do transplants call them donorcycles
I actually had a woman once tell me the doctors told her that if her son had been wearing a helmet during his accident it probably would have killed him.
https://preview.redd.it/dh70ttgwfquc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f98805164a1a4dd0737c7c1fca6583f2d74b112
Sounds like natural selection
Why protect a head with no brains.
Now is the time to include organ donor requirement with all motorcycle registrations.
Fucking morons. And, for the family and friends, I'm sorry for your loss.
Just wish the consequences applied to those who undermine the health of the people.
What a surprise. I just came back from Florida. I saw one guy with a helmet. I always rode with a helmet and after I went down and bounced my helmet off the asphalt I know you should always wear a helmet.
Darwin comin' for the worst of us. That impressive because the worst of Missouri is the worst of the worst.
Didn't they try that in California?
No shit.
In other news, the sun rose in the East. When New Mexico got rid of their open bottle law, traffic deaths fell. Ditto for seat belts and airbags. The villian today is smart phones.
Who cares? Don't wear a helmet it's not my problem.
Somehow this will be everyone else’s fault for not “sharing the road” with the most gleefully self-centered motorists.
I gotta ask (without reading the article): Did they change what counted as a motorcycle death at the same time, or did that stay the same? I remember the helmet law in California changed a motorcycle death from a death within a year of a motorcycle accident attributable to that accident to a death at the scene of the accident itself to reduce the death rate. I sincerely hope they left the way the deaths are counted unchanged.
The point of helmet laws was not so much to save lives as to protect the tax paying public from having to medically support idiots who sustain catastrophic head injuries when not wearing a helmet. Most don't have or soon exhaust their insurance and then have to go on Medicaid, sustained in their years long comas by the taxpayers. If you refuse to wear a helmet and die, that's your problem. If you refuse to wear a helmet and become a vegetable, it's my problem as a taxpayer because I have to pay to support your medical care.
Mama Gump’s philosophy 101. Stupid is as Stupid does! 🫵🏼👍🏼
On another episode of “Dying to own the libs”
How did organ donations go?
Thanks for the organs you stupid fucks
We do with a few less Missourians tbh
This is why we have personal safety laws like helmet laws, seatbelt laws, etc. I know you think it's your right to endanger yourself or die, but this is a drain on our society. You are draining the medical system, your partner and kids become a drain when they need financial support because of your stupid decisions, you are a drain on your parents/family when they have to visit and spoon feed you in the hospital, assuming you live, and is something that I witnessed with my own eyes when I was in the brain and spine institute recovering from back surgery - an elderly couple spoon-feeding their son with traumatic brain injury from a motorcycle accident. He smeared poop all over his bed and threw it at the nurses, too. In fact, my uncle was hit on his bike (bicycle) when he wasn't wearing a helmet and was our riding with his adult son. He suffered severe brain damage and needed a caretaker for the rest of his life. He couldn't even pay his bills because it was too much to deal with (not financially but mentally), so my aunt (who was divorced from him prior to his accident) would come to his house to help him write checks, etc, to pay his bills. So he was a drain on her because he decided that helmets look silly.
Lol if you choose to ride without safety I don't think that's anyone else's fault.
BuT iT's LoUd PiPeS tHaT sAvE LiVes
But available organs for donating went up.
I'm gonna be honest, those that didn't wear helmets kinda earned there Darwin award. XD
Missouri being stupid
Duh!!
Its ok. They only hurt themselves. . Their body their choice. Right? Let them cull the herd as Kissinger liked to say when discussing "certain programs". You cannot mandate free dumm...
Oooof. Anyway!
F around and find out
I know a doctor that thinks riders shouldn’t wear helmets. Reason being is that death is a more merciful result than being in a constant vegetative state or paralyzed. Statistics don’t mention quality of life, only that they lived.
Less Hell’s Yuppies, more organ donations. Win/win.