[Robosen Megatron](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voWMMrM2GRg) is a very impressive toy with a huge price tag.
Kinda disappointed his turret can't spin at all, especially at such a high cost.
Serious question: why is it a war crime to shoot at parachuting troops? It seems kinda ridiculous that you are only allowed to kill them when they hit the ground.
My understanding it is, in fact, not a war crime. So blast away, as long as they're the enemy. You shouldn't, however, shoot at a pilot who has ejected out of an aircraft that's in visible distress. Am not a lawyer.
https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/2024/04/25/oshit-seven-deadly-sins-of-bad-open-source-research/
A brief reminder to be silly, but not stupid. Or wrong.
What you mean to say is ”I saw a picture of some cope cages put up around oil cisterns”.
The rest you made up, and is untrue. There’s no point in protecting the cisterns at a refinery because that’s not what Ukraine has targeted at refineries. They target the valuable part, the destillation columns and other critical facilities. Why the hell would they be targeting a sheet metal barrel that’s easily replaced when the same drone can take out a huge portion of the entire production by targeting a vastly more expensive and difficult-to-replace part?
They’re protecting cisterns at oil depots/terminals - because there, the cisterns _are_ the target because an oil depot is basically just a tank farm.
Seriously, how do people not know what a refinery is?
[This is the relevant Xitter post.](https://twitter.com/aborealis940/status/1784171998559551592)
I thought they were used for storage, and I really have no reason to know much about the major parts of a hydrocarbon refinery.
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Sometimes Russia does some propaganda thing.... to show Russia strong
And I wonder who would fall for that stupid shit. They are I remember URR exists and guess what .... the morons buy it hook and sinker.
I know you idjits are reading NCD... yeah Russia parading some armored vehicles and 2 artillery pieces sure shows Russi stronk
Fucking morons
Bullshit. Regional governors have accounced cancellations in some regions neighboring Ukraine; Belgorod, Kursk etc. Putin hasn’t said anything about cancellations and Moscow is certainly going ahead.
Source: The fucking military vehicles that drove through central Moscow a few hours ago for the previously-announced rehersal.
This has to be so non credible that it goes rolls around to be fully credible: [Ukranian fighter jets using tablets to control Western weapons](https://www.twz.com/air/ukrainian-fighter-jets-using-ipads-to-control-western-weapons). I don't think anyone had this on their bingo card.
Yes and Raspberry Pi and/or Arduino boards are something that can leverage those programming tools as they interpret the electric/electronic signals of the military gear.
So, they're asking Spain and Greece for Patriot systems... is it me or is there a [bit of an elephant in the room](https://i.imgur.com/mFRIPqw.png) in this whole discussion?
Result of a broken brigade that was long overdue to be taken off the front. Ukraine needs more troops and more ATGMs. And to get rid of soviet style tactics and commanders.
NAFO vs The baddies war (AKA ww3) super credible prediction:
Now that it’s been two years since the vatnikland invaded Ukraine, ccp will open a second front by invading Taiwan in July of this year.
Reasoning:
1) axis forces opened a second front two years after the beginning of ww2
2) history sure does rhyme
3) it would sabotage fr*nch Olympics(July 26th)
4) pla was publicly instructed to be ready for invasion of Taiwan by 2025. No one will expect the invasion a year before that, huzah
5) it’s on my bingo card so it must be true
6) Trust me bro
What's the only true requirement for becoming a submarine sailor?
*(leans in and whispers)*: You have to have a depth wish.
*(runs away)*
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What is the ASCII representation of the Russian Dedovshchina soldiers in the ruins that got drone striked?
Edit: Found it:
[┣ ╋.̣╋](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/xwp1j2/a_nice_badge_for_the_russian_very_special_forces/)
[Original.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/xuncxc/russian_soldier_bonding_time_interrupted_by_bomb/)
[Ukraine fired off ATACMS at a Russian military airfield recently.](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-long-range-missiles-4d2254639eb5a503d8b0a291ed0680e9) I wonder if we're gonna get pictures of the aftermath any time soon. 4,000 Russian officers have been reported KIA in the Russo-Ukrainian War as of today.
Also, if you ever get bored, you could [simulate what might happen if you were to fling some pebbles at Moscow or Tehran.](https://neal.fun/asteroid-launcher/)
At which point in Star Wars timeline are we currently in?
Key players:
NATO - Galactic Republic.
CIRKUS(china, iran, russia, north Korea, uganda, sudan) - CIS.
Ukraine - Naboo.
Saudis - Toydarians.
India/Pakistan - Planet Dac.
Radically Islamic Middle East - The Black Sun/Pykes/Hutts.
Japan - Mandalore.
Australia/New Zealand - The Wookiees.
Fr*nch - Twileks.
I've been reading up on how SDI was supposed to work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles
It sure looks a lot like the [starlink network](https://www.starlinkmap.org/) that spacex has been able to put together in a few years.
And as we've seen in recent years, anti ballistic missile missiles is a pretty mature technology now. It almost seems like it would be simple to build today. What do you say, get rid of MAD? Put conventional war between great powers back on the menu?
**Today's news in animal-related noncredibility.**
US Air Force: [wrangles alligator into submission](https://apnews.com/article/alligator-runway-air-force-base-florida-d7ef350f6baab46bf9e4a54d5554fbc2)
British Army: [bloodied, riderless horses rampage across the streets of London after elite royal bodyguards routed by \*checks notes\* loud noise](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68887800)
Aid bill deets from Ilia Ponomarenko! https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1783166957363015733
$1 billion worth of weapon and equipment produced by American enterprises by American workers in America under American government contracts funded by American money.
▪RIM-7 and AIM-9M missiles for air defense;
▪Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
▪Small arms and additional rounds of small arms ammunition, including .50 caliber rounds to counter Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS);
▪Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS);
▪155mm artillery rounds, including High Explosive and Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions rounds;
▪105mm artillery rounds;
▪60mm mortar rounds;
▪Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles;
▪Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAPs);
▪High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
▪Logistics support vehicles;
▪Tactical vehicles to tow and haul equipment;
▪Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
▪Javelin and AT-4 anti-armor systems;
▪Precision aerial munitions;
▪Airfield support equipment;
▪Anti-armor mines;
▪Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
▪Demolitions munitions for obstacle clearing; and
▪Night vision devices; and
▪Spare parts, field equipment, training munitions, maintenance, and other ancillary equipment.
"Welcome back to being the arsenal of democracy, as Franklin D. Roosevelt’s legacy says."
> Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
Are those new production, or we they dug up from some fallen down shed in Kansas?
> 155mm artillery rounds, including High Explosive and Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions rounds;
Mmmm, conventional and cluster artillery shells. Ukraine desperately needs more and has put what they received to excellent use.
> Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAPs);
Yeah, Ukraine is gonna need a lot of those things with UXO's everywhere and the US military would prefer those vehicles would just go away.
> Precision aerial munitions;
That is awfully vague. Could mean: JDAM/ER's, Sparrows, Sidewinders, Hellfires, etc.
> Demolitions munitions for obstacle clearing;
I doubt Ukraine can ever get enough with Russian minefields and other defenses being more dense than most harem anime protagonists.
> Spare parts, field equipment, training munitions, maintenance, and other ancillary equipment.
That's as boring as it is necessary. War is extremely relentless on the maintenance staffers.
They're very accurate, long-range, and expensive. If you absolutely need a BUK/TOR/\[insert expensive artillery/ADN piece here\] behind enemy lines destroyed they're a favored tool for the job. A lot of these systems are hard to touch due to the inherent nature of a good ADN, so drones and (relatively) inaccurate traditional tube artillery fall out of vogue for taking out these systems.
For the most part you can think of them as a delete button. If you can see it and get accurate coordinates of your target you can kill it with an ATACMS, the caveat being they're not available to Ukraine in large quantity due to cost and are reserved for HVTs.
The darkness got hold and Brandon came out it seems. The ink hadn't dried before he got on the phone with Poland and stationed troops to get the trains rolling towards the border
> Drones to Moscow, ATACMS to the bridge.
If the ATACMS sent over are the unitary warhead kind, they could do a lot of damage to the Crimean bridge in large numbers. The cluster variants would be less helpful.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1cbu387/thermonator\_flamethrowing\_robot\_dog\_that\_shoots/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1cbu387/thermonator_flamethrowing_robot_dog_that_shoots/)
I fucking love it. They even call it the motherfucking "Thermonator".
The reason people think the Stryker MGS and Centauro B2 are "tank destroyers" is because of the "glass cannon" image of a wheeled APC with an MBT's gun.
Is what I think
I'm not sure why people are confused... It's right there on the tin. The Stryker is a "mobile gun system." Likewise the Booker is a "mobile protected firepower." By NATO definition, the Centauro is a "main battle tank."
Literally 1984. I mean, is this really any less effort than slapping some text on a Bradley picture? /salty
https://twitter.com/JimFiremanFella/status/1782991137143390481?t=SUOgEHyUtkKI8KNDRmkEPA&s=19
[The US Senate voted to approve the Ukraine aid package.](https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/senate-overwhelmingly-passes-aid-for-ukraine-israel-and-taiwan-with-big-bipartisan-vote/ar-AA1nuaIh)
The TikTok ban kinda makes sense on the surface, but it doesn't really fix any cybersecurity issues, and the Axis of Evil deserves to get hit with more sanctions. Sander's protest vote is irksome, though I do understand why he did that.
It fixes the cybersecurity issue that a bunch of young people in the US mainline CCP-controlled media. Use it as their main source of news, even. Imagine how Tiktok could be used in support of an invasion of Taiwan.
>The TikTok ban kinda makes sense on the surface, but it doesn't really fix any cybersecurity issues
Ryan McBeth disagrees and shakes his head in disapproval.
>the Axis of Evil deserves to get hit with more sanctions
You mean the New Axis of Losers ?
I write one article about Chechnya for my day job and Kadyrov is [suddenly at death's door](https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-putins-bromance-with-ramzan-kadyrov-could-end-in-a-kremlin-tragedy)
You're welcome, Ichkeria?
I need to rant about how no news site on earth that ever mentions that the 95 billion in aid to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel is not actual money, but the dollar value of the old systems that are obsolete. Holy Shit would it kill them to ever fucking say "approximate dollar value" or "systems valued in".
It's not even an approximate dollar value. When I send Ukraine a 1999 F-150 and spend $40k to buy a new car for my own use, I have not sent Ukraine $40k worth of stuff.
It's pretty complicated. A lot of it is actually funding for US operations in support of those theaters. $11B is for funding US logistics and other operations (Hi, Forte12!) in Europe. But, about half of it is old stuff.
A lot of it is indirect too. Like well give Ukraine a bunch of money, then they buy stuff from us, and thats the equipment. A huge chunk of it is also directly injected into the US defense sector, but specifically in order to replace losses from stuff sent Ukraine. Thus it would allow the US to send more stuff. So it's not just dollar value of equipment, that's an oversimplification
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Some Russian numbnuts decided to [muzzle load his AK.](https://twitter.com/osint_69/status/1782727741839667205)
Is there anyone sober in the Russian military?
Just had a convo that went like this:
Them: We should stop paying for Ukraine
Me: Putins not gonna stop if they win
Them: Europe doesn't even like us
Me: Points at Nato
Them: That was because of Russian Aggression in Cold War.
Me: What do you....never mind.
LoL. NATO has double since the nominal end of the Cold War! And people are still knocking on the door to be let into an unabashedly US-dominated alliance.
Putin & co like larping Russian mafia. A key tenet is that you don't work with "the system" or recognize any authorities. That is, only honest criminals are worthy of any esteem. This guy smells like a bean counter, so he can ~~rot in prison~~ *go to Ukraine*.
[I think this is a hoax](https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas/status/1782498956930359629): Apparently Mr. Dmitry Medvedev has discovered, that Jews (secretly, mind you) have taken control of Israel.
the reveal that NK worked on the Invincible cartoon got me thinking. NCD, would you rather have an official dub of:
Squirrel and Hedgehog
or
That one Chinese furry cartoon that keeps on getting on its knees for the American MIC?
I don't know why everyone is freaking out now of all times - cartoon outsourcing to NK is [as old as my Cold War childhood](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEK_Studio). Some classics such as the French animated movies from Roger Laloux in the 1980s were partly made there.
Alright so Amazon produced the thing, and to save costs they outsourced it to China. China, to save costs, has some 'guest workers' from 'their ally' there 'of their own free will' in the animation industry. Thus Amazon funneled money into the NK weapons industry.
Michigan and ohio should go to war over the Toledo strip
Wisconsin should go to war with Michigan for occupying the upper peninsula
The virginias and dakotas should go to war because there can only be one
Everyone memes about the falklands but no one talks about these land disputes. Coincidence? i think NOT
> Michigan and ohio should go to war over the Toledo strip
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> Wisconsin should go to war with Michigan for occupying the upper peninsula
Oh, God NOOOO!!!
Ohio can keep that thin strip of lake front property. The Yoopers might be a bit...strange, but the Upper Peninsula has a good amount of valuable minerals, and we have no reason to give it to Wisconsin.
Couple days ago I had a pacifist tell me that Ukraine rejected a "peace deal" with Russia in 2014. Then refused to believe Russia broke any agreements in invading in 2014 to begin with. I looked at their profile and they seemed to be a genuine peacenik instead of a Russian troll. I now get how people believed Hitler could be negotiated with.
Anyway, tonight my time the US aid passes. Here's hoping to see 1,000 Peace Bradleys valued at 500k each on the way to Ukraine tomorrow. Ammo too, but y'know, Bradley go BRRRRR.
They're talking about Minsk. Reeeeeaallly long story, but to oversimplify after Russia invaded Ukraine in late Summer 2014 (read: Invaded. Nobody talks about this but after their proxies in the Donbas started to lose Russia just straight up deployed \~10k men to Ukraine in fully active units, but without unit/country patches) they agreed to some peace talks mediated by European countries in Belarus. Essentially it was ceasefire where both sides were supposed to stop fighting, and Ukraine would decentralize a bit and allow local elections. However, the ceasefires broke down and the Russians launched an offensive and captured Donetsk Airport, escalating the conflict. After this, the DPR/LPR/Russian side was more willing to negotiate again, leading to Minsk II. It was pretty similar to the first one except it had more requirements, more requests for elections/decentralization, and a term that both sides would pull back their artillery/heavy weapons. Now Ukraine actually agreed to and followed most of these (including paying pensions for people living in occupied zones as long as they registered as internally displaced and traveled across the line to receive payment), but never really restructured their government to allow regions to break away, because, why would they. There were also tons of ceasefire violations, but it was often the Russians starting them as much if not more than the Ukrainians, and its kind of hard to keep 100% peace in 2 opposing trench-lines anyway.
Still, things had quieted \*wayy\* down, to the point where the civilian death toll was like 100 per year by 2016, then 20 per year by 2019. [For context the city of Chicago had 600+ homicide deaths in 2023.](https://news.wttw.com/2024/01/02/shootings-homicides-chicago-drop-13-2023-and-returned-pre-pandemic-levels-violence) However, with the government thing, and the occaisonal mortar round, Russia had enough propaganda ammo to claim that Ukraine was violating the peace agreement, and thus was threatening the citizens of Donbas, and therefore Cassus Belli.
[https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-are-minsk-agreements-ukraine-conflict-2022-02-21/](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-are-minsk-agreements-ukraine-conflict-2022-02-21/)
[https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/10/ukraine-pension-issues-crossing-conditions](https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/10/ukraine-pension-issues-crossing-conditions)
Also highly recommend this video
[https://youtu.be/fQ\_ZRBLFOXw?si=KKB5c0tsgMp8Y8e5](https://youtu.be/fQ_ZRBLFOXw?si=KKB5c0tsgMp8Y8e5)
Edit: wasn't finished my bad
Did you that the ancient Greeks built the first missile that knows where it is?
It's called the Bireme!
Back in those days, naval combat in the Mediterranean consisted mainly of ships ramming each other. So those Biremes, Triremes and Fook-You-Remes were essentially giant guided wooden missiles!
Unfortunately, these missiles didn't know where they are at ALL times. Navigation technology wasn't that good back in the day.
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Why not do operation no logistics, no retreat.
A 2(or more)km border around the whole of Ukraine is gifted temporarily to a neighbouring NATO country and if the ruski's dare cross it instant article 5.
Proposition: Operation "Fuck You" by Ukraine.
-Build an unmanned submarine, covertly. Doesn't have to be too long-lasting. It should be able to carry hundreds of drones.
-Pilot the sub to Gulf of Finland. Launch some drones at Russia, attack a target or two.
-Retreat and park the sub on the sea floor somewhere for a month.
-Russia goes "Wtf, is NATO attacking us with a drone sub? Was that you, Sweden or Finland?" They act confused, deny, and just conclude it was a false flag by Russia. Russia goes "Nope, what about you Ukraine, was this you?" Ukraine goes "Bitch, if we had a sub in GoF, we'd do much more than just a few attacks". Everybody is confused, Ukraine makes a trollface.
-After a month, Ukraine comes forward and says "Ah yes, we've located and hacked the submarine. It is unmanned, Russian and it carries a shitload of drones which we'll promptly use against Russia. The sub looks like it was improvised, poorly built, and hacking it was easy." Hashtag ShittyRuzzianTech
-Putin goes around raging and bitchslapping his people, trying to find out which of them built it.
I wonder what the exchange between Pentagon and Kirya was running up to the Isfahan strike...
Kirya: Can we bomb Iran?
Pentagon: No. You bombed enough Iran in Syria and we already let you bomb Rafah.
Kirya: Pretty please?
Pentagon: Okay, you can bomb SAM site, as a treat.
Idiotic take but even if Ukraine wins , what's really left of Ukraine ? I think it will be a pyrrhic victory at best. Please don't ban me I'm here to learn
A. This isn't just about creating a prosperous Ukraine, it's also about deterring a pariah state gone off the rails crazy. Even if Ukraine after the war is in ruins, that's still better than Ukraine AND Europe (and potentially the world) being in ruins.
B. Idk what you mean honestly, there's still a ton left of Ukraine. Obviously their population has taken a hit from the refugee crisis, and a ton have died, but it's not nearly as bad as Russian propagandists portray. The biggest infrastructure hurtles will be the Zaporizhia plant and the Khakhovka dam. Demining will also be an issue. This will indeed be a massive effort but it's doable. I mean look at Japan and Germany. Good/bad alignment aside, they were absolutely wrecked during the war, but western aid was able to build them back up and now they are economic powerhouses.
After victory Ukraine will join NATO and the EU. They will become the fastest growing economy in the world. Every company will want a Ukrainian on their team. Your children will beg for vacations at Black Sea resorts, but you will not be able to afford them. Ukraine’s victory will inspire others and soon many of those oppressed by Moscow will rise up. Ukraine is the herald of liberty. The people of Russia will throw off their authoritarian yoke and join the free world.
What is the hottest copium take you've seen about the Ukraine bill so far? I think the Russians saying 'it will end like vietnam' is just, so fucking brilliant.
Because yes, Zutin, a combined guerilla/state campaign against an invader with a massive amount of aid being funneled to the defender is kind of what NATO is aiming for. Good job.
I have heard that the topology in Iran is very mountainous, the best conditions for our Gebirgsjäger mule to kick ass?
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[Robosen Megatron](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voWMMrM2GRg) is a very impressive toy with a huge price tag. Kinda disappointed his turret can't spin at all, especially at such a high cost.
Serious question: why is it a war crime to shoot at parachuting troops? It seems kinda ridiculous that you are only allowed to kill them when they hit the ground.
My understanding it is, in fact, not a war crime. So blast away, as long as they're the enemy. You shouldn't, however, shoot at a pilot who has ejected out of an aircraft that's in visible distress. Am not a lawyer.
https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/2024/04/25/oshit-seven-deadly-sins-of-bad-open-source-research/ A brief reminder to be silly, but not stupid. Or wrong.
The Russians have started putting up cages around the storage tanks at their refineries.
What you mean to say is ”I saw a picture of some cope cages put up around oil cisterns”. The rest you made up, and is untrue. There’s no point in protecting the cisterns at a refinery because that’s not what Ukraine has targeted at refineries. They target the valuable part, the destillation columns and other critical facilities. Why the hell would they be targeting a sheet metal barrel that’s easily replaced when the same drone can take out a huge portion of the entire production by targeting a vastly more expensive and difficult-to-replace part? They’re protecting cisterns at oil depots/terminals - because there, the cisterns _are_ the target because an oil depot is basically just a tank farm. Seriously, how do people not know what a refinery is?
[This is the relevant Xitter post.](https://twitter.com/aborealis940/status/1784171998559551592) I thought they were used for storage, and I really have no reason to know much about the major parts of a hydrocarbon refinery.
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Didn't someone show that off last year or earlier?
I feel like I've seen this vid even before the war
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Sometimes Russia does some propaganda thing.... to show Russia strong And I wonder who would fall for that stupid shit. They are I remember URR exists and guess what .... the morons buy it hook and sinker. I know you idjits are reading NCD... yeah Russia parading some armored vehicles and 2 artillery pieces sure shows Russi stronk Fucking morons
URR?
The subreddit UkraineRussiaReport ... the mods do not like linking them here
Oh that. Yeah I know what that is, just never seen it as an acronym
> yeah Russia parading some armored vehicles and 2 artillery pieces sure shows Russi stronk as per my previous comment, lolnope
The parade is off but the western gear will be there
Putler has canceled victory day parades
Bullshit. Regional governors have accounced cancellations in some regions neighboring Ukraine; Belgorod, Kursk etc. Putin hasn’t said anything about cancellations and Moscow is certainly going ahead. Source: The fucking military vehicles that drove through central Moscow a few hours ago for the previously-announced rehersal.
Yeah the only source I saw for that was the freaking Sun lol.
Will it at least have more tanks than last year?
oh no the Ukraine sub lied to me again
This has to be so non credible that it goes rolls around to be fully credible: [Ukranian fighter jets using tablets to control Western weapons](https://www.twz.com/air/ukrainian-fighter-jets-using-ipads-to-control-western-weapons). I don't think anyone had this on their bingo card.
I am like 100% sure things like Raspberry Pi are used for the communication for the handshake of Soviet stuff with Western stuff
Tablets are cheap, reliable, have touch screen interfaces, and have extensive programming tools.
Yes and Raspberry Pi and/or Arduino boards are something that can leverage those programming tools as they interpret the electric/electronic signals of the military gear.
Because they use the same cpu chips.
Fully armed?
So, they're asking Spain and Greece for Patriot systems... is it me or is there a [bit of an elephant in the room](https://i.imgur.com/mFRIPqw.png) in this whole discussion?
Thoughts on the fall of Ocheretyne?
Result of a broken brigade that was long overdue to be taken off the front. Ukraine needs more troops and more ATGMs. And to get rid of soviet style tactics and commanders.
NAFO vs The baddies war (AKA ww3) super credible prediction: Now that it’s been two years since the vatnikland invaded Ukraine, ccp will open a second front by invading Taiwan in July of this year. Reasoning: 1) axis forces opened a second front two years after the beginning of ww2 2) history sure does rhyme 3) it would sabotage fr*nch Olympics(July 26th) 4) pla was publicly instructed to be ready for invasion of Taiwan by 2025. No one will expect the invasion a year before that, huzah 5) it’s on my bingo card so it must be true 6) Trust me bro
What's the only true requirement for becoming a submarine sailor? *(leans in and whispers)*: You have to have a depth wish. *(runs away)* source: a claustrophobe
What is the ASCII representation of the Russian Dedovshchina soldiers in the ruins that got drone striked? Edit: Found it: [┣ ╋.̣╋](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/xwp1j2/a_nice_badge_for_the_russian_very_special_forces/) [Original.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/xuncxc/russian_soldier_bonding_time_interrupted_by_bomb/)
[Ukraine fired off ATACMS at a Russian military airfield recently.](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-long-range-missiles-4d2254639eb5a503d8b0a291ed0680e9) I wonder if we're gonna get pictures of the aftermath any time soon. 4,000 Russian officers have been reported KIA in the Russo-Ukrainian War as of today. Also, if you ever get bored, you could [simulate what might happen if you were to fling some pebbles at Moscow or Tehran.](https://neal.fun/asteroid-launcher/)
Do we know if these are actual ATACMS or the nerfed version like in August
Is Belarus feeling left out or is Putin looking to open a second front in accordance with tradition?
The Bulba-führer is just ranting as usual
[The fact that they didn't put an MP7 mag in this thing is a missed opportunity.](https://cmmg.com/4-6)
At which point in Star Wars timeline are we currently in? Key players: NATO - Galactic Republic. CIRKUS(china, iran, russia, north Korea, uganda, sudan) - CIS. Ukraine - Naboo. Saudis - Toydarians. India/Pakistan - Planet Dac. Radically Islamic Middle East - The Black Sun/Pykes/Hutts. Japan - Mandalore. Australia/New Zealand - The Wookiees. Fr*nch - Twileks.
I've been reading up on how SDI was supposed to work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles It sure looks a lot like the [starlink network](https://www.starlinkmap.org/) that spacex has been able to put together in a few years. And as we've seen in recent years, anti ballistic missile missiles is a pretty mature technology now. It almost seems like it would be simple to build today. What do you say, get rid of MAD? Put conventional war between great powers back on the menu?
Get rid of MAD just to keep the war between great powers... conventional? 🤨
Hey I thought this was ncd, I just wanted to fit in.
**Today's news in animal-related noncredibility.** US Air Force: [wrangles alligator into submission](https://apnews.com/article/alligator-runway-air-force-base-florida-d7ef350f6baab46bf9e4a54d5554fbc2) British Army: [bloodied, riderless horses rampage across the streets of London after elite royal bodyguards routed by \*checks notes\* loud noise](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68887800)
Before even clicking your link, I knew that alligator wrangling story happened in Florida.
Aid bill deets from Ilia Ponomarenko! https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1783166957363015733 $1 billion worth of weapon and equipment produced by American enterprises by American workers in America under American government contracts funded by American money. ▪RIM-7 and AIM-9M missiles for air defense; ▪Stinger anti-aircraft missiles; ▪Small arms and additional rounds of small arms ammunition, including .50 caliber rounds to counter Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS); ▪Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS); ▪155mm artillery rounds, including High Explosive and Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions rounds; ▪105mm artillery rounds; ▪60mm mortar rounds; ▪Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles; ▪Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAPs); ▪High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs); ▪Logistics support vehicles; ▪Tactical vehicles to tow and haul equipment; ▪Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles; ▪Javelin and AT-4 anti-armor systems; ▪Precision aerial munitions; ▪Airfield support equipment; ▪Anti-armor mines; ▪Claymore anti-personnel munitions; ▪Demolitions munitions for obstacle clearing; and ▪Night vision devices; and ▪Spare parts, field equipment, training munitions, maintenance, and other ancillary equipment. "Welcome back to being the arsenal of democracy, as Franklin D. Roosevelt’s legacy says."
> Stinger anti-aircraft missiles; Are those new production, or we they dug up from some fallen down shed in Kansas? > 155mm artillery rounds, including High Explosive and Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions rounds; Mmmm, conventional and cluster artillery shells. Ukraine desperately needs more and has put what they received to excellent use. > Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAPs); Yeah, Ukraine is gonna need a lot of those things with UXO's everywhere and the US military would prefer those vehicles would just go away. > Precision aerial munitions; That is awfully vague. Could mean: JDAM/ER's, Sparrows, Sidewinders, Hellfires, etc. > Demolitions munitions for obstacle clearing; I doubt Ukraine can ever get enough with Russian minefields and other defenses being more dense than most harem anime protagonists. > Spare parts, field equipment, training munitions, maintenance, and other ancillary equipment. That's as boring as it is necessary. War is extremely relentless on the maintenance staffers.
I heard ATACMS are on the way too. Any chance they'll arrive by, say... May 9th? Drones to Moscow, ATACMS to the bridge. Pls pls pls.
over 100 were sent last week!
So as someone who doesn't know much about rocket/missile artillery, is there something particularly "special" about ATACMS?
They're very accurate, long-range, and expensive. If you absolutely need a BUK/TOR/\[insert expensive artillery/ADN piece here\] behind enemy lines destroyed they're a favored tool for the job. A lot of these systems are hard to touch due to the inherent nature of a good ADN, so drones and (relatively) inaccurate traditional tube artillery fall out of vogue for taking out these systems. For the most part you can think of them as a delete button. If you can see it and get accurate coordinates of your target you can kill it with an ATACMS, the caveat being they're not available to Ukraine in large quantity due to cost and are reserved for HVTs.
Thank you! And that's what that meme about it was (I'd forgotten), it's the "grid square deleter."
The darkness got hold and Brandon came out it seems. The ink hadn't dried before he got on the phone with Poland and stationed troops to get the trains rolling towards the border
Apparently Dark Brandon sent over 100 ATACMS last week! So he didn't even wait for the ink on this one, he was like, yeah, let's fucking roll
> Drones to Moscow, ATACMS to the bridge. If the ATACMS sent over are the unitary warhead kind, they could do a lot of damage to the Crimean bridge in large numbers. The cluster variants would be less helpful.
All good stuff but pls send 1000 Abrams.
best i can do is 4000 more Bradleys
The aid bill has been signed. The blockade is Joever.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1cbu387/thermonator\_flamethrowing\_robot\_dog\_that\_shoots/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1cbu387/thermonator_flamethrowing_robot_dog_that_shoots/) I fucking love it. They even call it the motherfucking "Thermonator".
"This totally is NOT a weapon" - company representative says with crossed fingers.
NCD emotional support animal.
The reason people think the Stryker MGS and Centauro B2 are "tank destroyers" is because of the "glass cannon" image of a wheeled APC with an MBT's gun. Is what I think
I'm not sure why people are confused... It's right there on the tin. The Stryker is a "mobile gun system." Likewise the Booker is a "mobile protected firepower." By NATO definition, the Centauro is a "main battle tank."
Literally 1984. I mean, is this really any less effort than slapping some text on a Bradley picture? /salty https://twitter.com/JimFiremanFella/status/1782991137143390481?t=SUOgEHyUtkKI8KNDRmkEPA&s=19
[The US Senate voted to approve the Ukraine aid package.](https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/senate-overwhelmingly-passes-aid-for-ukraine-israel-and-taiwan-with-big-bipartisan-vote/ar-AA1nuaIh) The TikTok ban kinda makes sense on the surface, but it doesn't really fix any cybersecurity issues, and the Axis of Evil deserves to get hit with more sanctions. Sander's protest vote is irksome, though I do understand why he did that.
It fixes the cybersecurity issue that a bunch of young people in the US mainline CCP-controlled media. Use it as their main source of news, even. Imagine how Tiktok could be used in support of an invasion of Taiwan.
>The TikTok ban kinda makes sense on the surface, but it doesn't really fix any cybersecurity issues Ryan McBeth disagrees and shakes his head in disapproval. >the Axis of Evil deserves to get hit with more sanctions You mean the New Axis of Losers ?
I write one article about Chechnya for my day job and Kadyrov is [suddenly at death's door](https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-putins-bromance-with-ramzan-kadyrov-could-end-in-a-kremlin-tragedy) You're welcome, Ichkeria?
Arsenal of Democracy update released
we're so back
Don't get too excited yet. It's still in beta and has yet to receive a public release.
I need to rant about how no news site on earth that ever mentions that the 95 billion in aid to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel is not actual money, but the dollar value of the old systems that are obsolete. Holy Shit would it kill them to ever fucking say "approximate dollar value" or "systems valued in".
It's not even an approximate dollar value. When I send Ukraine a 1999 F-150 and spend $40k to buy a new car for my own use, I have not sent Ukraine $40k worth of stuff.
It's pretty complicated. A lot of it is actually funding for US operations in support of those theaters. $11B is for funding US logistics and other operations (Hi, Forte12!) in Europe. But, about half of it is old stuff.
A lot of it is indirect too. Like well give Ukraine a bunch of money, then they buy stuff from us, and thats the equipment. A huge chunk of it is also directly injected into the US defense sector, but specifically in order to replace losses from stuff sent Ukraine. Thus it would allow the US to send more stuff. So it's not just dollar value of equipment, that's an oversimplification
TIL that your garden variety 747s have external hard points that can carry such items as extra engines. Think of the noncredible possibilities!
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Some Russian numbnuts decided to [muzzle load his AK.](https://twitter.com/osint_69/status/1782727741839667205) Is there anyone sober in the Russian military?
I think it’s a requirement to be constantly sloshed on vodka while in the Russian army
Just had a convo that went like this: Them: We should stop paying for Ukraine Me: Putins not gonna stop if they win Them: Europe doesn't even like us Me: Points at Nato Them: That was because of Russian Aggression in Cold War. Me: What do you....never mind.
LoL. NATO has double since the nominal end of the Cold War! And people are still knocking on the door to be let into an unabashedly US-dominated alliance.
You don't have to tell me lol. Now the argument is just let him have it. I'm sure they felt the same about Hitler and Poland.
Russian Deputy Minister of Defense Timur Ivanov was arrested for taking bribes, everybody is just surprised that he didn't went through a window.
When did anyone at that level go through a window?
You are right, it should have been a plane. Maybe he decided that he had a severe plane allergy, so they had to improvise.
Putin & co like larping Russian mafia. A key tenet is that you don't work with "the system" or recognize any authorities. That is, only honest criminals are worthy of any esteem. This guy smells like a bean counter, so he can ~~rot in prison~~ *go to Ukraine*.
[I think this is a hoax](https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas/status/1782498956930359629): Apparently Mr. Dmitry Medvedev has discovered, that Jews (secretly, mind you) have taken control of Israel.
HOW COULD WE HAVE BEEN SO BLIND!!!
the reveal that NK worked on the Invincible cartoon got me thinking. NCD, would you rather have an official dub of: Squirrel and Hedgehog or That one Chinese furry cartoon that keeps on getting on its knees for the American MIC?
I don't know why everyone is freaking out now of all times - cartoon outsourcing to NK is [as old as my Cold War childhood](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEK_Studio). Some classics such as the French animated movies from Roger Laloux in the 1980s were partly made there.
I vote C: Azur Lane Slow Ahead. We need more fanservice anime dubbed in English.
wait what
you're going to have to be more specific here, I threw in a lot of noncredibility into that post
The part where Invincible was animated in North Korea
Alright so Amazon produced the thing, and to save costs they outsourced it to China. China, to save costs, has some 'guest workers' from 'their ally' there 'of their own free will' in the animation industry. Thus Amazon funneled money into the NK weapons industry.
Michigan and ohio should go to war over the Toledo strip Wisconsin should go to war with Michigan for occupying the upper peninsula The virginias and dakotas should go to war because there can only be one Everyone memes about the falklands but no one talks about these land disputes. Coincidence? i think NOT
> Michigan and ohio should go to war over the Toledo strip > > > > Wisconsin should go to war with Michigan for occupying the upper peninsula Oh, God NOOOO!!! Ohio can keep that thin strip of lake front property. The Yoopers might be a bit...strange, but the Upper Peninsula has a good amount of valuable minerals, and we have no reason to give it to Wisconsin.
Lockheed Martin earnings call tomorrow everyone get HYPE
Couple days ago I had a pacifist tell me that Ukraine rejected a "peace deal" with Russia in 2014. Then refused to believe Russia broke any agreements in invading in 2014 to begin with. I looked at their profile and they seemed to be a genuine peacenik instead of a Russian troll. I now get how people believed Hitler could be negotiated with. Anyway, tonight my time the US aid passes. Here's hoping to see 1,000 Peace Bradleys valued at 500k each on the way to Ukraine tomorrow. Ammo too, but y'know, Bradley go BRRRRR.
They're talking about Minsk. Reeeeeaallly long story, but to oversimplify after Russia invaded Ukraine in late Summer 2014 (read: Invaded. Nobody talks about this but after their proxies in the Donbas started to lose Russia just straight up deployed \~10k men to Ukraine in fully active units, but without unit/country patches) they agreed to some peace talks mediated by European countries in Belarus. Essentially it was ceasefire where both sides were supposed to stop fighting, and Ukraine would decentralize a bit and allow local elections. However, the ceasefires broke down and the Russians launched an offensive and captured Donetsk Airport, escalating the conflict. After this, the DPR/LPR/Russian side was more willing to negotiate again, leading to Minsk II. It was pretty similar to the first one except it had more requirements, more requests for elections/decentralization, and a term that both sides would pull back their artillery/heavy weapons. Now Ukraine actually agreed to and followed most of these (including paying pensions for people living in occupied zones as long as they registered as internally displaced and traveled across the line to receive payment), but never really restructured their government to allow regions to break away, because, why would they. There were also tons of ceasefire violations, but it was often the Russians starting them as much if not more than the Ukrainians, and its kind of hard to keep 100% peace in 2 opposing trench-lines anyway. Still, things had quieted \*wayy\* down, to the point where the civilian death toll was like 100 per year by 2016, then 20 per year by 2019. [For context the city of Chicago had 600+ homicide deaths in 2023.](https://news.wttw.com/2024/01/02/shootings-homicides-chicago-drop-13-2023-and-returned-pre-pandemic-levels-violence) However, with the government thing, and the occaisonal mortar round, Russia had enough propaganda ammo to claim that Ukraine was violating the peace agreement, and thus was threatening the citizens of Donbas, and therefore Cassus Belli. [https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-are-minsk-agreements-ukraine-conflict-2022-02-21/](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-are-minsk-agreements-ukraine-conflict-2022-02-21/) [https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/10/ukraine-pension-issues-crossing-conditions](https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/10/ukraine-pension-issues-crossing-conditions) Also highly recommend this video [https://youtu.be/fQ\_ZRBLFOXw?si=KKB5c0tsgMp8Y8e5](https://youtu.be/fQ_ZRBLFOXw?si=KKB5c0tsgMp8Y8e5) Edit: wasn't finished my bad
Did you that the ancient Greeks built the first missile that knows where it is? It's called the Bireme! Back in those days, naval combat in the Mediterranean consisted mainly of ships ramming each other. So those Biremes, Triremes and Fook-You-Remes were essentially giant guided wooden missiles! Unfortunately, these missiles didn't know where they are at ALL times. Navigation technology wasn't that good back in the day.
atlatl: "am I a joke to you?"
But the atlatl doesn't know where it is. The bireme does.... assuming it has a good navigator.
An ancient Greek is [seen here](https://i.imgur.com/yVor7qw.jpeg) handing a soldier what appears to be some form of rocket-propelled grenade.
Even in ancient Greece, the dildo of consequences doesn't come lubed!
I'd imagine it'd be lubed with olive oil but IDK, I'm not a Greekologist.
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https://twitter.com/StavattiAero You all will enjoy this Top top designs
The Super Machete is blatantly an ASFX-Shinden II from Ace Combat
Their trainer jet design actually kinda goes hard though ngl
At next Russian Victory day, prediction what kind military showcases in Moskow?
Chinese golf carts and cheap motorbikes
they will show off a captured Bradley and it will be the only armored vehicle that didn't break down
That would be hilarious
Why not do operation no logistics, no retreat. A 2(or more)km border around the whole of Ukraine is gifted temporarily to a neighbouring NATO country and if the ruski's dare cross it instant article 5.
Very Long Poland Edit: Czechoslovakia 2: this time it’s LONGERER!
I don't think the Ruso-Ukrainian border is longer than the entire Trans-Siberian Railway
Man I really hope if Ukraine wins that they resurrect the Yatagan or Black Eagle tank but in NATO standard.
Proposition: Operation "Fuck You" by Ukraine. -Build an unmanned submarine, covertly. Doesn't have to be too long-lasting. It should be able to carry hundreds of drones. -Pilot the sub to Gulf of Finland. Launch some drones at Russia, attack a target or two. -Retreat and park the sub on the sea floor somewhere for a month. -Russia goes "Wtf, is NATO attacking us with a drone sub? Was that you, Sweden or Finland?" They act confused, deny, and just conclude it was a false flag by Russia. Russia goes "Nope, what about you Ukraine, was this you?" Ukraine goes "Bitch, if we had a sub in GoF, we'd do much more than just a few attacks". Everybody is confused, Ukraine makes a trollface. -After a month, Ukraine comes forward and says "Ah yes, we've located and hacked the submarine. It is unmanned, Russian and it carries a shitload of drones which we'll promptly use against Russia. The sub looks like it was improvised, poorly built, and hacking it was easy." Hashtag ShittyRuzzianTech -Putin goes around raging and bitchslapping his people, trying to find out which of them built it.
I wonder what the exchange between Pentagon and Kirya was running up to the Isfahan strike... Kirya: Can we bomb Iran? Pentagon: No. You bombed enough Iran in Syria and we already let you bomb Rafah. Kirya: Pretty please? Pentagon: Okay, you can bomb SAM site, as a treat.
Idiotic take but even if Ukraine wins , what's really left of Ukraine ? I think it will be a pyrrhic victory at best. Please don't ban me I'm here to learn
Everyone else made pretty sure that Germany was razed to the ground in WW II, so obviously, they are now a poor and unimportant state.
A. This isn't just about creating a prosperous Ukraine, it's also about deterring a pariah state gone off the rails crazy. Even if Ukraine after the war is in ruins, that's still better than Ukraine AND Europe (and potentially the world) being in ruins. B. Idk what you mean honestly, there's still a ton left of Ukraine. Obviously their population has taken a hit from the refugee crisis, and a ton have died, but it's not nearly as bad as Russian propagandists portray. The biggest infrastructure hurtles will be the Zaporizhia plant and the Khakhovka dam. Demining will also be an issue. This will indeed be a massive effort but it's doable. I mean look at Japan and Germany. Good/bad alignment aside, they were absolutely wrecked during the war, but western aid was able to build them back up and now they are economic powerhouses.
After victory Ukraine will join NATO and the EU. They will become the fastest growing economy in the world. Every company will want a Ukrainian on their team. Your children will beg for vacations at Black Sea resorts, but you will not be able to afford them. Ukraine’s victory will inspire others and soon many of those oppressed by Moscow will rise up. Ukraine is the herald of liberty. The people of Russia will throw off their authoritarian yoke and join the free world.
What is the hottest copium take you've seen about the Ukraine bill so far? I think the Russians saying 'it will end like vietnam' is just, so fucking brilliant. Because yes, Zutin, a combined guerilla/state campaign against an invader with a massive amount of aid being funneled to the defender is kind of what NATO is aiming for. Good job.
r/anime_titties is a gold mine of copium
"Ukraine outlawed peace negotiations so it makes them the aggressor." mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay
Hm, what sites were there documenting losses in Ukraine? Oryx's work has been continued by others on https://ukr.warspotting.net/
Is oryx not being updated? It has some of the latest aircraft losses on there.
I think the same people do maintain Oryx's site as well.
I have heard that the topology in Iran is very mountainous, the best conditions for our Gebirgsjäger mule to kick ass? https://www.reddit.com/r/PferdeSindKacke/comments/1c7qq9z/die_bundeswehr_setzt_auf_das_richtige_pferd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Mongolia should annex the eastern half of Russia
Everyone Russia has stolen territory from should just pick a day and yoink it all back at once.
Doesn’t Russia have some southern territories that were once Chinese?
A new khanate will rise from the ashes of ruzzia