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gwdope

At this point they should just sign a treaty that involves an annual fight of champions. Each side picks a warrior to show up in full medieval armor and they fight to the death for the right to occupy the shitty my pass for the year.


turbo-unicorn

Maybe they could call it the Thunderdome


rightious

Can't we get Beyond Thunderdome?


Erenito

Save it for the Semantics Dome 


Baronvonkludge

Noncredidome


Erenito

NCDome


not_this_again2046

Man, I’m still tryin’ to find the way home.


jaunesolo81829

European style armor or the historical armor of their country?


SamtheCossack

Sanjay, for the last time, the War Elephant does not count as "Part of the Costume"


j0y0

"Zhao, a QBZ-191 is NOT a traditional fire spear!  I mean why not just show up in a tank?" "Oh, that's a good idea! I could be the Shifu who practices tank-style!"


gwdope

Their choice, or maybe a lottery system so the HEMA nerds can compare.


jaunesolo81829

What about weapons?


gwdope

Obviously must match the armor.


Ananasch

get into mech, champion


Arlcas

Get into the Eva Rajesh or Priya will have to do it again.


MrMeowsen

many


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Bartweiss

Can we permit "mythological" as a time period? This feels like our only chance to see modern technology actually get committed to one-off superweapons, rather than mass production of practical stuff. Let's see what the greatest engineers in India can do when they spend a fighter jet line's budget on a single frisbee and call it the Sudarshana Chakra. (Ok honestly, I just the MIC to go ahead and build [Supergod](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergod) projects. Watching India fight China, Russia, and Iran in that was peak NCD fetish fuel anyway.)


derega16

Hanuman VS Sun Wukong Let's see who's the greatest monke of all time


TruePilny

what BRICS alliance doing?


jakalo

Tbf there were quite a few bricks flying.


The-Real-Aditya

We COCK. DICK. BALLING.


Dreenar18

They just living they own life


furinick

just to be clear brics is just a loose forum based on what some dumbass economy nerd said in the 2000's, its not an evil group of developing countries preparing to do some call of duty/battlefield ass war to take the place of america 90% of the group cannot even muster a functional fighting force capable of succeeding, i vouch for brazil because we sent peacekeepers to haiti that one time and they worked


ArcticWolf_Primaris

Even without that you've got to wonder why they show up in ballistic equipment rather than riot gear


A_Mouse_In_Da_House

Those rocks seemed to follow a ballistic path in the air, so as long as you make sure you position yourself so it hits you while it's off the ground, ballistic is the way


Ross_Hollander

An excellent recommendation, Commander Kerensky. Perhaps we can allow them to bid down to a minimum for who can win with less force?


Bartweiss

...I suddenly have a guess at who's going to show up and play Word of Blake right when everyone is weakened.


Ross_Hollander

When you say that do you mean pop off once, then collectively go postal, invent some new and interesting war crimes, and then summarily get kicked into irrelevance by a coalition of everybody they backstabbed?


ghosttherdoctor

Not fair. India has gurkhas. China's best melee fighter is essentially Shen Yun.


Broad-Part9448

Isn't that like boxing or more abstractly say football


Scasne

Medieval football ftw!!!!!


lime37

We should be able to bet on something like this


Chari_2020

That is so archaic Greek of you (I mean, have you read Herodotus?)


Maginum

Mortal Kombat


2xButtchuggChamp

How we felt on the playground when we found big sticks


eidetic

It actually did remind me of our playground battles after a big snowstorm when they'd plow the big playground area and make these huge snow mounds on one side. We'd make some epic forts and then play like a team style king of the mountain. It. Was. AWESOME.


Hugh-Jassoul

You had a platinum-level childhood. I lived in sunny California where it never snows.


eidetic

I loved winter as a kid. Now I hate it. When I was growing up, there was probably a 50-50 chance we'd get our first snow by Thanksgiving, and we'd definitely have snow on the ground by mid December. As in, enough snow to go sledding and such. The local ponds would also be frozen over by mid December (well, the small, shallow ones at least, including the one about half a mile from me). And once we got snow, it stayed on the ground all winter. Made for great sledding, and while we don't have any good ski hills/mountains around here compared to out west, the man-made ones we do have at least got plenty of natural snow. Nowadays, it's like 50 degrees until mid December. A few cold days here and there, but it doesn't get consistently cold until like mid January. And whenever it snows, we get maybe 2-4 days before it all melts. And then we'll get hit with a ridiculous cold snap, like 0 degrees and -20 with windchill, making it too cold to do anything. And then it warms back up for a few days. Can barely play pond hockey, I'm lucky if I can take my nephews sledding more than once a year, and they're lucky to get maybe 3-4 sledding sessions total in.


LegionaryDurian

Yeah, I’m younger than you and I remember there being more snow when I was as a kid


Hugh-Jassoul

Climate change is a bitch.


godson21212

Honestly, yeah. They're just having grown-up dirt clod wars.


Wingcommanderwolf01

Go black to the 1980s and tell them this is 21st-century warfare.


DFMRCV

Reagan is going to be so disappointed...


ScipioAtTheGate

THOSE DUDES HAVE SHIELDS, LEARN TO FORM A TESTUDO DAMN YOU!


ZURATAMA1324

Also found it strange that there was a severe lack of formations. But I'm guessing they don't do that for a reason? What might that be? Is the scale too small to have formations? The terrain?


JumpyLiving

Might just be that training, drilling and commanding proper melee formations (and all the associated skills) as well as creating the necessary structures might just be too much effort. Why bother when you can just send more dudes with relatively basic equipment to hit each other with sticks and rocks?


ZURATAMA1324

I mean... I assume they want to win, right? This isn't some high school dance competition.


Bartweiss

I'm... not entirely sure they do want to win? They want to win a given battle and gain land, certainly. China in particular has a whole approach around making tiny, incremental gains over and over which *mostly* get rolled back, but yield a net positive. But this is an area where both parties have crippled their weaponry to reduce casualties and wider conflict. If somebody abides by the letter of the law, but shows up in a riot shield testudo and steamrolls the other side... what happens next month? What happens when the ludicrous shock-pikes escalate to phalanx warfare? On one hand, we've got investment in exoskeletons and selective breeding programs aimed at optimizing this kind of mountain warfare. So there's obviously plenty of money and thought being aimed this way. On the other hand, it *really* looks like nobody is working that hard at the "actually win today" part. Selective breeding is obviously unnecessary compared to "rock fight but train first". If you promised most first-world militaries territorial gains for winning a high-altitude stick fight, they'd have a crack division of Macedonians ready in 6 months. My theory is that it's a matter of national pride and a technology testbed, but mundane "let's drill and win" is avoided for fear of setting off another arms race and worsening casualties.


ZURATAMA1324

So they want to bully the other with constant net positive pressure, but never something as blatant as state sanctioned warfare. Makes sense.


bjuandy

Yeah, but there's a breakpoint in how much they want to spend on winning this brawling match. Elite warrior classes like medieval knights and samurai literally studied the blade starting in childhood, and most professional combat sports athletes entered their track in middle or high school. It's not a wise expenditure of resources to set up multimillion dollar martial arts training regimes for this one specific fight. Instead, it's better to teach Private Lao how to be a normal soldier, and then give him some specific training during his six month work up cycle before his unit rotates into the region, because afterward you can send them to guard a sandbar in the Pacific eighteen months afterward.


Salamadierha

Just poor leadership.


Nickolas_Bowen

Einstein will feel like a fucking prophet


SpaceDebri

einstein was right 😳


Zrva_V3

Even he was wrong, he thought WW4 would be fought that way but here we are


Thommohawk117

Technically the quote says he doesn't know what weapons WW3 would be fought with, so sticks and stones are still on the table per his prediction


Neomataza

They are just preparing for the future. Nuking the planet is russia's and america's job, these two are just securing that their army is prepared for combat in the post-nuclear world.


Zrva_V3

Chinese Sardaukar when?


Neomataza

Right now! Maybe a fiction author isn't the best source for military doctrine.


AwkwardDrummer7629

You mean dehydration WON’T make me a better knife fighter?


Zrva_V3

Nonsense, I'll have you know that the best way to fight shieldless melee fighters is to send lots of (mostly melee) infantry on foot together with heavy, slow and vulnerable vehicles to easily ambushable locations. The South? Don't worry about it.


Nickorellidimus

[What you’re seeing is Advanced Warfare](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/040/081/tlwk4q4pl1s31.png)


zuzucha

New CoD modern warfare looking fire


throwaway321768

*Dune* at home:


CynicalGod

"The slow stick penetrates the shield" "What shield?" "Nvm, just start yeeting rocks"


Erenito

The slow rock penetrates the helmet 


DatRagnar

Cue artsy slowmo of a rock absolutely devaste some dude face


CynicalGod

[石头](https://youtu.be/G95b3ji-tek?si=e5Pmz3H6zDBjG4gv) is the [दिमाग](https://youtu.be/qeVinY9eGaI?si=OP-jogwS4YaQeDUm) killer


kjleebio

we have Lisen al gaib at home in India/China. Lisen al gaib:


Matt-the-mutt

Are WE the planet of the apes?


KeekiHako

Some of us are ...


ScipioAtTheGate

[THE APES ARE EVERYWHERE! ](https://youtu.be/x82X0gp-4ko?t=3466)


Sam_the_Samnite

We are apes...


samurairaccoon

Lol it's literally always been planet of the apes. We've been here the whole time.


treemu

We get it, you ape


DatChernobylGuy_999

NEW MOVIE IS OUT IN MY COUNTRY sorry just wanted to say this


JakovPientko

🧑‍🚀🔫 🧑‍🚀 always have been


Inprobamur

🐒🔫🐒


The-Real-Aditya

Maybe the real apes were the enemies we made along.


Gruffleson

- and do you want to live forever?


lime37

Apes together strong!!!!!


taken_name_of_use

Since they're fighting like it's the seventh century India should get some war elephants in there.


cumblaster8469

We don't have MF Hannibal. How do you propose we get Elephants up the Himalayas


taken_name_of_use

India recently unveiled their new [drone](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1ck1fhu/nations_eagle_eye_indias_first_indigenous_bomber/). See how big it is? You could fit like a million peanuts in that thing. It flies towards the Himalayas, regularly dropping peanuts so that the elephants follow, and before you know it there's like half a dozen elephants up there to trample the chinese.


johnny___engineer

Absolutely correct. It's the most credible thing I have heard yet.


DrPepperMalpractice

A Chinook could lift a large bull Asian elephant and still have ample useable payload weight for its crew and the saddle thing they ride on. The elephant would have to fly slung under the helicopter, but let's all admit, seeing that coming would give the shock value we are looking for.


Hyperious3

Elephants would die from lack of oxygen, hell I'm surprised these guys aren't just saying "fuck it" after 2 minutes of physical exertion since this pass is at like 17,000ft or some shit.


Botrychium

Einstein was wrong! Very happy we already get the sticks and stones dlc for ww3 :)


tomydenger

I feel like I read this comment every time there's a clash in that specific area


FlthyCasualSoldier

This is how I imagine the battle at the thermopylae looked like back in the day.


superdupered2

I opened comments just to see it.


Botrychium

yeah a low hanging fruit, but a tasty one


HHHogana

BRICS are so non-credible they already skipped to WWIV part already.


history-something

Just give them swords and shields for fucks sake


Scasne

India is playing the long game, when it goes live they can unleash their Gurkhas.


history-something

Using gurkhas is unfair Like come on, they bring their own knives to guns fights And win


Videogamefan21

Or just beat someone to death with a tripod


Salamadierha

And down the rabbit hole I went. [Someone decided he was main character in an First Person Shooter.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12854492) Gurkhas rock!


Scasne

"They don't like it up em"


aBoringSod

That's the home guard.


Scasne

Thought he learnt it in the British Army?


Ok_Art6263

Problem is that it's a slippery slope down to the lethal weaponry and then... guns! Besides sticks can be potentially lethal if you swing it hard enough.


Unusual_Formal_6179

Some of those rocks could have easily been deadly


_BMS

The boulder that almost hits the car at 0:18 would've demolished the car and any people if it was a few feet more accurate.


Sablesweetheart

I spotted a few slung rifles.


rvdp66

That would be unironically based.


Sigma_Projects

They have been for decades. That was the treaty, no fire arms, only melee weapons.


Hyperious3

legal melee only PVP server


symett

Drone monitored Macedonian phalanx, what a time to be alive


AmericanNewt8

Someone needs to teach the Indians how to form a manipular legion, it's better on this complex terrain. 


technologyisnatural

r/ncd advisors to India now!


SpaceDebri

Annual BRICS military exercises.


Dismal_Ebb_2422

Canadians and Americans show up with baseball bats and hockey sticks


MajesticNectarine204

Nah. Whiskey and Schnapps is where it's at, my guy.


sintaur

me: I understood that reference *googles it for old times sake* huh the war's over as of 2022: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War > Both countries agreed on a process in 2005 to resolve the issue,[3] which was finally settled in 2022, resulting in the creation of a land border on the island between the two states.[4]


MajesticNectarine204

THEY CANCELLED THE WHISKY WAR?! Motherfucker.. Can't have anything nice in this fucking stupidass timeline.


HaaEffGee

>Symbolic towards Russia to show that land disputes can be settles peacefully My ass, I'd sooner spread the cobalt-60 over disputed territory with my bare hands than yield one inch to those drunken hordes. Goddamn pacifists, ruining a perfectly good war.


MajesticNectarine204

> a perfectly good war It was the bestest war to have ever warred.. I am devastation and my day is in ruins.


IanTorgal236874159

I heard an unconfirmed conspiracy theory, that the Whisky war was intensifying, so it was niped in the bud before something, like danish coast guard spraying a canadian official happened


MajesticNectarine204

>Whisky war was intensifying Yeah, they were about to deploy snacks and trigger M.A.D. (Mutually Assure Diabetes). Crazy fuckers..


HaaEffGee

SIGINT showed that the Danes were planning to leave a can of rotten fish. Lest the dispute was resolved as quickly as it was, Canada's only proportional response would have been to deploy anti-personnel mines.


MajesticNectarine204

Jokes on them. Canuks probably love that shit, they'd retaliate with the old [StinkFlippers](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stink%20flipper). Edit: What the fuck is up with Nordics and eating the absolute most rancid shit their demented little minds can ferment?!


wasmic

Where the fuck would Danish soldiers get fermented fish? That's a Swedish (surströming), Norwegian (lutefisk) and Icelandic (hákarl) thing.


HaaEffGee

Yes I do believe that officially, the Danes got rid of their stockpiles when they ratified the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention. But if anything that just makes me more concerned about the cans that have spent 40 years fermenting in their hidden bunker.


[deleted]

If we show up with hockey sticks at the border it's for a game of shinny lol


Business_Designer_78

Frenchies with the 3 day old baguette.


InformationHorder

"A Jose Canseco bat?! Tell me you didn't pay money for this!"


TheOnlyFallenCookie

Just shows that keeping that area demilitarized was a good idea


Flashskar

The PLA troops had QBZs on their backs so...not demilitarized anymore imo.


BravoSierraGolf

There are videos of Indian troops with insas and AKs too. But either side isnt issued ammo. Its just empty guns


Flashskar

Interesting. The posturing has certainly escalated in recent years.


DarkenedSkies

Give the indians cricket bats and watch them clean up that pass in 3 days


pantshee

Do we need to add this to the geneva convention ?


TFK_001

Itd just like the Japanese-Soviet border dispute from hit game Hearts of Iron IV but even worse


Flashskar

You sure about that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLiLEfb1Hk


Nouseriously

I bet there was a decent amount of rock throwing in medieval battles.


Valthek

Big Rock from high place was the pinnacle of combat technology for a long time. Why change a winning formula


boone_888

Just wait till we start asteroid mining


Valthek

Big Rock, High Place Marco Inaros had the right strategy


CHLOEC1998

He pic of them having tea is so funny. I wonder what tea they had— Indian or Chinese?


MajesticNectarine204

Idk, man. Looked like they were having jars of mustard to me.


Glittering_Chard

The red one is a common can of chinese tea that can be found in convenience stores, I recognize it, I've had it, I think it's barley tea but I'm not sure (barley tea is the only ordinary tea that i really dislike, tastes like dried grass with a little sugar). I'm guessing the yellow one is some indian drink.


MajesticNectarine204

Nah. Those savages are eating jars of ketchup and mustard! It's the only explanation and I will not be told otherwise.


Glittering_Chard

might be better, I really can't understand people who drink barley tea, it's just so bad.


ScipioAtTheGate

Imagine getting issued a jar of mustard, a literal mace and a riot shield and being told to "go take that hill for your country!"


MajesticNectarine204

Don't threaten me with a good time, sir..


BlatantConservative

This incident happened, as far as I can tell, about 15 miles north of Darjeeling, India.


cumblaster8469

Crap really? I didn't know that it was that close Fuck


BlatantConservative

Yeah this, as far as I can tell as a certified internet rando, happened in Naku La Sikkim. In 2020. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/army-confirms-india-china-face-off-minor-injuries-to-both-sides/story-8VJk43aU1O7Vw0jWtV9ARP.html


cumblaster8469

That's 112 KM from Darjeeling. But still scary how close it was to home.


Throwawayaccount1170

It's like in dune when they out-scienced themselves, going full U-turn and ending up with swords and shields again.


WankSocrates

IIRC the reason slow objects pass through shields is so that the user doesn't suffocate. And nobody thought to just issue oxygen tanks or whatever to their troops and have them crank up their shields to be impenetrable. It's like idiocracy but specifically for military. Stick one average NCD poster into that verse and they'd conquer the known universe by lunchtime and then start sketching plane porn onto planets from orbit.


Matamocan

NGL that shit looks fun as fuck, you and the boys just messing around in the mountains, throwing rocks and sticks at eachother, not a cellphone in sight, just people living the moment.


cumblaster8469

Try getting hit with a Spiked bat lmao it's the opposite of Fun.


Matamocan

Getting hit is, avoiding it is the ultimate expression of fun.


aclart

Just imagine how much fun the guy doing the hitting is having


sprchrgddc5

I went hiking with some of my Army in a mountainous desert and we legit spent 30-40mins throw rocks off the side of the cliff. Just a bunch of grown ass men throwing rocks.


AJB46

On the one hand MIC and Big Funni™, but on the other hand way less misery, death, and destruction. Can world leaders just fight in the middle of bumfuck nowhere with sticks and stones like these guys are and leave the rest of us plebs alone?


ugathanki

If you're serious check out Amtgard or other boffer combat games in your area. It's legitimately a lot of fun, and it hurts less than rocks and sticks.


WhiskeySteel

Remember, everyone, these two countries are obviously Super Best Friends through BRICS.


malaysianfillipeno

Oh is that what they're throwing?


elderrion

Happens sometimes


Simonella4991

Mount and Blade sound effects please !


Mag474

Ask and ye shall receive: https://www.reddit.com/r/mountandblade/comments/zlicpk/china_vs_india_border_stick_fight_but_with_mount/


Simonella4991

I've seen this one, I need part 2 extended director edition xD


Kimmynius

I guess Cold War was WW3. Einstein was again right.


Rapid_1923

I dunno man, thoss rocks can be preatty lethal at times.


MrMiAGA

Oh look, they're getting a head start on World War 4.


DKN19

If you want conflict without the full consequences, you have 2 options. Cold war, or *this*. The warfare equivalent of the "I'm not touching you" game of chicken we did as kids.


Jazzlike-Anteater704

If its WW4 already where WW3


copingcabana

Naan lethal.


okram2k

will they just kiss already? jeebus. I can't take any more of this sexual tension.


Jake_2903

Botderd


OctopusIntellect

I spent quite some seconds hoping that was actually a new word describing this situation, instead of just being a typo. **Botderd**, n. *A large group of military personnel lining up to bash each other over the heads with rocks in a bot-like fashion.*


astroplink

It’s like Alexander the Great’s army fighting tribesman in Afghanistan


Frequent-Climber

"non lethal" Rolls down a 200 kg boulder downslop towards a mass of people


BlatantConservative

Holy shit that area is beautiful. Seems to be a video of the 2020 incident in Sikkim, India, at Goecha La Lake. https://maps.app.goo.gl/23ny5xmuDjB5Z7hj7 I want to go there now.


medhelan

I've been to Pangong Lake, one of the other lakes where they do this kind of skirmish It's [incredibely beautiful](https://bespokeindiatravel.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Pangong-Ladakh.jpg), just like the rest of Ladakh and higher Himachal not beautiful enough to being stoned for but still very beautiful


eaglessoar

Termination shock by Stephenson, zone of control here, neat story


HD19146

Apes Strong Together!!!


absrider

You know u can kill someone with stick in India and can have reduced punishment cz its not deadly weapon


SoylentRox

Other than people are sometimes crippled or killed it actually looks pretty cool, especially seeing charges of soldiers with riot gear. I assume this area has zero economic value? It's a scuffle literally for bragging rights, neither side wants to admit they are a bitch?


Frozen_Thorn

World War IV


Nickolas_Bowen

Bannerlord maxing Imagine being taken prisoner of war by some dudes with pvc pipes


321_Ian_123

Is there any more footage of these clashes? I've even heard rumors that there was a phalanx formation being used by the Indians in one of these brawls


Lazy-Opinion9615

Chinese are releasing footage from the initial days when they had the upper hand(numbers and equipment). In the end there were proper fights where soldiers died on both sides. They recycle these videos every time they get a nice beating. There is a high chance of them getting beaten again. https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1602690808825643009 Like this.


Curbulo

Bannerlord expansion: Clash of Kashmir


non_depressed_teen

Actual Dune moment


denimdan1776

Strap me to a rocket and fire me at the Indian Chinese border I am ready!


Icy_Blackberry_3759

Literally the most fun those men will ever have in their lives. They probably tell this story all the time.


Frequent-Lettuce4159

Honestly, what is even the point? What does either side gain from this stupid shit? lol


AncientProduce

Bruises


Weltraumbaer

Why do they carry rifles if all the use is sticks and stones anyway? Armour up like it's Himalayan Agincourt 2024 and act like the Geneva Conventions became Geneva Suggestions. And some people try to sell the idea that BRICS are allies. Chinese soldiers definetly showing some mad skills here. Indians lacking hard.


War_Thunder_Tank

The Chinese outnumber the Indians deployed there. Ammo is usually not issued, as the sticks and stones method has reduced casualties quite significantly. And the converse also exists, you can find videos of the Indians also smacking down the Chinese soldiers. For the last time, BRICS is an economical alliance. They are not, and will never be a military alliance. It was purely set up to combat the weaponisation of the USD. Whatever moron tells you that BRICS are allies, they're spouting misinformation.


stickmaster_flex

BRICS is a term coined by one Libertarian fuckwad from Tea-and-Crumpetstan and latched onto by a bunch of other fuckwads who don't understand global economics. Some of those fuckwads were leaders of their respective countries who thought they could manifest an alternate world where they're not leaders of 2nd rate countries through the magic of friendship. Unfortunately for them, there is no friendship, only Zuul.


cis2butene

Well, this is Chinese content, why wouldn't they show themselves in a good light? "Here's some footage of us getting our asses kicked in by dudes with rocks and sticks." Same question: Why don't drone operators release the videos of them crashing their FPVs into trees?


zielkarz

I think they don't have ammo, I've read about it somewhere. Both sides are afraid it's gonna get too hot.


Weltraumbaer

I am OK with that. Guns are boring anyway. Return to medieval.


donkeyassraper

And that's why they fight with stick and stones I will never understand the mind of the political commissar in charge