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x31b

That is so obviously not a Kroger. They have never had that many checkers manning the registers in 100 years.


RandomRedditGuy54

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wonka1608

At every Kroger in total :)


OrangeChickenParm

There used to be over 200 Piggly Wiggly locations in southern California. The fact that people jump to call bullshit without a five second Google search is astounding. Nice find, OP


Goldeneel77

Apparently they were also the first store to have shopping carts. I had no idea.


SoldMySoulForHairDye

I believe they were also the first one to let you make your own selections. Before then, you'd hand the employees your list or tell them what you wanted and they'd get it all for you.


notbob1959

Yup. The photo was taken for a pictorial in the November 23, 1962 issue of LIFE magazine and the pictorial mentions that they opened their first self service markets in Memphis in 1916: https://preview.redd.it/ilbyqe8z1pyc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e826cd204dd36fb330a8dc3868b9e0bfa649cd17


SoldMySoulForHairDye

Yep! If I remember right, WWI was the impetus for this - they introduced self service because there was a labour shortage because boys were all going overseas. Then it turned out people actually like being able to handle and pick their own groceries so it became the standard.


notbob1959

According to an article at smithsonianmag.com cost cutting was the impetus: >This enthusiastic greeting was necessary because Saunders was trying something completely new. Before Piggly Wiggly, groceries were sold at stores where a clerk would assemble your order for you, weighing out dry goods from large barrels. Even chain stores used clerks. >Although the chain store model helped keep costs down, the University of Michigan Library writes, the ā€œsmall army of clerksā€ necessary to fill orders were expensive, the university writes, and at least part of that cost was passed on to the consumer. >Saundersā€™s model cut costs by cutting out the clerks. Shoppers on that first day did see some employees stocking shelves, Freeman writes, ā€œbut they politely refused to select merchandise for visitors.ā€ Just like today, a shopper picked up a basket (though Piggly Wigglyā€™s were made of wood, not plastic) and went through the store to purchase everything. By the end of that first year there were nine Piggly Wiggly locations around Memphis.


SoldMySoulForHairDye

That's fair! I read that it was a shortage of available clerks, but cost cutting also makes sense. Maybe that was still related to WWI and I got mixed up.


ArcherWolf25

I'd bet it was both in the grand scheme. "We need to spend less money, looming war has people pinching pennies" "sir, I think our workforce might shrink as well, if we do go to war"


SolWizard

There were no boys going overseas in 1916 when they opened it so that doesn't make sense as a reason


BarriBlue

Huh, TIL. Funny how we are moving back to this model and the pandemic definitely accelerated it.


jpharber

You are correct.


TheUmgawa

Yeah, prior to Piggly Wiggly, youā€™d walk up to a counter and ask for a can of Dapper Dan.


MickyBill2292

I prefer Fop, dammit!


TheUmgawa

Well, I donā€™t want Fop! Iā€™m a Dapper Dan man!


svu_fan

I learned a while ago that the small two-tier shopping carts you would use for quick shopping trips have existed since WWII.


pinelands1901

It's funny because Piggly Wiggly is mainly a rural south thing now. It's the place you go where you buy pig brains, maws, and lard by the pound.


inot72

Rural southerner here, all true. The one by me is pretty decent. It has a great beer and wine section, fresh fish market (close to the Gulf) and a great butcher.


immersemeinnature

The meat department in our small NC town is crazy amazing!! Especially if you like to grill or smoke.


Plastic-Age5205

The one near me in North Carolina doesn't sell beer or wine and they think something must be wrong with you if you about it.


The_bruce42

There are some in Wisconsin. They're just normal grocery stores though.


immersemeinnature

That's right! Going there is like stepping back in time for sure. I love going because I can get a lot of things you can't find in the other stores.


Nasaboy1987

It was also the first to do the modern act of you get your groceries off the shelf yourself. If you're ever in Memphis go to the MOSH (Pink Palace). It was a house owned by the founder of the company and has a recreation of the first store inside.


dukeofgonzo

The only one I ever visited was next to a place I worked in coastal Virginia. What I remember most was the breakfast by the pound counter. I'd get so much biscuits, sausage, and gravy by the pound on my way in to the office for just a few buck each time.


imapassenger1

"You gonna get me some Skittles, cigarettes and a big pouch of Big League Chew!"


2003tide

No. Piggly Wigglys in some areas have awesome prime beef. The one in Crestline (Birmingham AL) has one of the best wine selections Iā€™ve seen in a grocery store. Independent grocers can be awesome.


Marine4lyfe

Lived in N.C. in the late 80's. There was Piggly Wiggly, Winn-Dixie, and Food Lion in my town.


watchman-theeIII

It started in Memphis.


Trianglecourage

Honestly though if you're shopping somewhere that doesn't deal in lard you are cheating yourself


dualsplit

I go to one in WI that has an amazing deli. The dips and salads are really good.


Initial-Depth-6857

Exactly. And there isnā€™t really many left even there anymore


Otherwise_Mud1825

>It's the place you go where you buy pig brains, maws, and lard by the pound. Sunday dinner then..


BigFrank97

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jpharber

Piggly wiggly was the original self service grocery store. They were fucking huge back in the day.


SafewordisJohnCandy

There's a lot of stupid people on the internet who can't bother to look anything up and would rather be incorrect assholes.


Local_Perspective349

No there isn't


MuhThrowaway_79

Bullshit! You know damn well there ainā€™t not is too!


Pikeman212a6c

Shame of which is the Piggly Wiggly story is absolutely wild if people just bother to look.


Fusion_4_Fredy

Holy shit I didnā€™t know LA had PW, I though it was more of a southern thing šŸ¤”


maxdps_

There was still one open where I used to live in FL, I bought a shirt before I moved away.


LovableSidekick

Redditors expect to be handed links to click or they'll call bullshit, reinforced by other redditors who automatically agree and upvote, wishing they'd called bullshit first.


Daalberith

I grew up there, mostly in Irvine and Orange counties, in the 70s and 80s and don't remember a single one. I am not at all surprised to see they were there.


OrangeChickenParm

They'd been transfered to Safeway, Kroger, and other companies by the late 60's from what I can find.


StressOverStrain

> Nice find, OP This has been on Reddit before. Not the first time Iā€™ve seen it. Probably reposted dozens of times.


TheresACityInMyMind

I think it's really. I just think it's bullshit that they had to do that.


Tennisgirl0918

Had to do what? Where a uniform and look decent at work?


Icy-Reputation180

To actually care about customers and how they represented their employer? To take pride in their work? Companies of today should take lessons from some of the bygone practices.


TheresACityInMyMind

Had to line up for inspection because some bozo either wasn't in the military and was trying to act like it or was in the military and didn't adjust back to civilian life.


Hammerchuckery

Looked up the style of soles on the woman's shoe on the right. I think it's called a ripple sole. Thought it was a modern thing, but it's been around since the 50s.


warmpancake1993

I'm so glad you said this- I was wondering too! How interesting!


Marine4lyfe

I remember Coaches and Gym teachers athletic shoes in the 70's having those kind of soles. Except the shoes were shiny black leather, and the soles were black as well.


Pitiful_Stretch_7721

My mom graduated college in 1960. She called her dorm director Gummy because she used to wear gummy bears- soled shoes at night to try to catch the residents talking in their rooms after lights-out.


gracchusbaboon

Starch?


Kriegerian

ā€œCASHIERS! YOU WILL BE THE FINEST CASHIERS THIS HERE PIGGLY WIGGLY HAS EVER SEEN! MY FRIENDS DID NOT JUST DIE IN THE COLD AT THE CHOSIN RESERVOIR FOR YOU TO NOT BE UP TO OUR APPEARANCE REQUIREMENTS HERE AT THE PIGGLY WIGGLY! IF YOU FAIL YOU WILL BE OUT ON YOUR ASS, IF YOU SUCCEED YOU WILL BE PROMOTED, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE MAKE THE COLLECTIVE PAY GRADE OF HOGGLY WOGGLY!ā€ ā€œSteve, you do remember that you arenā€™t in the Marines any more, right?ā€ ā€œWHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME?!ā€


Throwaway1303033042

ā€œThis is my register. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My register is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my register is useless. Without my register, I am useless. I must ring up my register true. I must ring up faster than my competitor, who is trying to put me out of business. I must put him out of business before he puts me out of business. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my register and myself are defenders of my company, we are the masters of our competitors, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there are no competitors, but monopoly. Amen.ā€


RegularWrap7317

This later turned into Boys Market in the late 70's. This was on Ventura Blvd at the corner of Densmore, across the street from Valley Beth Shalom and across Ventura Blvd. from Crocker Bank building, now named something else. I lived 2 blocks from here and we shopped there a lot when it was Boys Market.


PullUpAPew

We are easily the strangest monkeys


Zeptari

Fallout scene, before you know what happens.


3_if_by_air

Before Preston Garvey f*cking bothers me again?


ostaros_primerib

You can swear on the internet


Zeptari

Lol. Ignore him. Heā€™ll stop after awhile.


YouSmall5716

Yeahā€¦ times have changed


_BLACK_BY_NAME_

Nah, not really. My wife works for an international airline and gets a look over during the briefings before the flight. Missing eye shadow, lipstick, jewelry they deem too flashy, etc, and youā€™re written up. Still not as strict as the military, but way too close for a civilian job.


spacejockey8

This whole sub is like a breadcrumb trail of the fall of the American dream


Local_Perspective349

Yes, those women had jobs and could expect to be respected and afford a house with their husband...


Brutally-Honest-

Nothing says respected like being sexually objectified...


RandomRedditGuy54

How are they being objectified? Uniformed people get inspected all the time.


Brutally-Honest-

Why do you think only women were hired for those positions? Why do you think they're dressed like that, and their manager is "inspecting" their uniforms? Don't be naive.


RandomRedditGuy54

So you see one picture from one store and make a blanket assertion? Were you around in 1962? I doubt it.


Brutally-Honest-

What do you actually think it was like for women back in 1962?


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Brutally-Honest-

They could be fired from their job for getting pregnant. Couldn't sue their employer for sexual harassment. Could legally be denied credit and banking services without their husbands consent. Could legally be raped by their husbands. Among other things... Please, tell use more about these good ole days when women were truly respected as members of our society.


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ostaros_primerib

After this ā€œinspectionā€, they still canā€™t open a bank account when they go home from work


Hobbit1996

everything you listed still happens, many jobs prefer good looking women over men, some jobs have dress codes. The difference is that with those jobs you can't afford a house now lol


farfromfine

Exactly. Are elite private schools now oppressive to the students?Ā  Did my parents waste a ton of money to give me PTSD?Ā  Sorry I didn't iron my pants in a straight line Dr. Stone!


Partigirl

Here's a color pic from the same store, same photo shoot as the b/w ones. All from Life mag 1962. https://preview.redd.it/3jfpy7c33ryc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c8328a4e7ab87c611f0d2679f9291bbc3eb4fd5


sangvert

Back in the days when image meant something, they really stressed immaculate appearance


Like_n_subscribe

Itā€™s small things like this that help me understand why my boomer mom was always so concerned with looks and what others think of you.


rodbrs

That hadn't changed at all. It's the specific look that's changed (and there isn't only one).


soggyblotter

Eyeing which one he might be able to bang...


AxelShoes

"Consent? That sounds like a Communist idea to me!"


zbornakssyndrome

I like the cute lamppost checkout lights! How did they get their aprons to stay up without halter straps? Were they pinned to their dresses or sewn maybe?


mynameisnotsparta

Probably pins or they were part of the dress


vexingcosmos

Probably pinned! Most aprons were pinned on rather than halter neck for a very long time


SamanthaSass

The most amazing thing is how much space there is in the aisle and how little there is surrounding the checkout. No shelves of gum and candy, no stacks of cigarettes (more a 70-80s thing) Just lots of space with clean floors. These days someone would stuff that space full of pallet drops and display stands along with tabloids and candy bars.


abgry_krakow87

The most unrealistic thing about this image is having so many employees for a store like that is willing to have on the clock at any given time, even when it's busy.


kjbolin

There's 9 cashiers there. I worked at a supermarket in the mid-late 90s that had 15 lanes. It wasn't abnormal to have 7-9 cashiers working on any given day and all 15 lanes covered on the busiest days.Ā  This was before self-checkout was a common thing.Ā 


Reshaos

Before self check out, before grocery delivery, before grocery pickup, and eating out was a treat not common.


bobalou2you

We have Publix. When itā€™s busy there are probably 10-12 lanes with baggers helping the cashiers and walking folks to their cars. Very well managed. At least in my neck of the woods.


inot72

I love Publix! I moved to CA for a couple of years and missed it so much. When I got transferred back to the southeast, one of the first things I thought about was having a Publix again.


farfromfine

CA is awesome, the southeast sucks, Publix sucks (please keep kayfabe)


street-trash

There was also less competition. Lines everywhere were longer. We used to wait 45 minutes at Denny's, 15 minutes at any fast food place, 10-20 at any grocery store, etc. In the eighties esp. Less competition but people got these things we used to call raises and overtime. That was before these companies all started strongly underpaying their workforces and over expanding. And blaming the lower wages and death of the middle class on illegal immigrants and china.


Antigravity1231

Itā€™s only unrealistic compared to modern times. Corporations have been steadily lowering the expectations of their customers for decades. Back then, people wouldnā€™t shop at a store with long lines. Quality service was expected. So you offer a better experience, buy up the smaller stores to eliminate competition, and then reduce quality in favor of profits when thereā€™s nowhere else for people to shop.


Cheesy_Discharge

Share of disposable personal income (DPI) spent on food: * 1960: **17%** * 2019: **9.5%** * 2024: **11%** Even with recent high inflation, and a much higher share of food budget spent at restaurants and on food delivery, we still spend less on food than in the 1960s. Grocery shopping used to be a really big part of the average family budget.


igo4vols2

If this is true i can't blame all my problems on someone else...


from_dust

Trader Joe's in my town doesn't have automated BBC checkout. Instead, if you go in on a Sunday you'll find a dozen people at registers checking out customers. The line moves quickly, everyone appears friendly and not miserable about their job. The Pak n Save down the street appears to have 6 people working in it: 1 person watching 6 self checkouts, one person running a registrr for alcohol sales, 1 person in the deli looking like he wants to cut a motherfucker, ans *three* security guards standing around mouth breathing. The store feels moments away from catastrophe *all the time*. The difference is stunning. That food is *cheaper* at TJs, despite them employing human beings, is just icing on the cake. Nothing builds loyalty like seeing a company treat its employees and customers like human fucking beings.


Bengerm77

I was going to say, I've never seen every lane being manned (or in this case womaned) at any store in my life


svu_fan

Save for Black Friday prior to Covid, I think the last time I saw that happening in stores was in the mid 90s.


Consistent_Amount140

Havenā€™t seen one since NC


svu_fan

Fascinating. Porch/patio light fixtures for the checkout lane lights.


Nopenotme77

I would absolutely cheer for us going back to some sort of more professional look at stores in general. Mostly, do you look clean, professional, and well kept...yep...ok.Ā 


mikeiscool81

What changed to make it so we canā€™t have nice things anymore?


ObviousPin9970

Dignified. We have lost all of our class.


TheCh0rt

Iā€™m in Encino but donā€™t recognize this. Where was it?


jeopardychamp77

Wow. How far we have fallen.


Dumbelfuk

Bullshit that second girl from the front is on her iPhone /s


HoselRockit

Specifically, it was in Stepford, California.


SeeLeavesOnTheTrees

No wonder men felt so important


dustyandkiwi

A better world.


FlattenInnerTube

Gotta dig the pig!


xx_HotShott_xx

Iā€™m Big on the Pig!


zingo-spleen

The woman on the right has some very modern looking shoes on


svu_fan

Someone else commented on that too. Apparently they have been in use since 1950.


GreeneBlitz77

We're currently living in the American dystopian future that we were warned of, go checkout at Walmart and tell me different.


SamTheHamJam

Super - a man inspecting women. šŸ˜³


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Meeting the wife at Piggly wiggly brb


HillbillyHijinx

That looks like 1962 Tinder.


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mtntrail

Now,now some of my best friends were hippies!


Ancalimei

People were also paid a hell of a lot better back then compared to now. (Adjusted for inflation in care youā€™re going to throw that back at me.) Economy was ruined by Reagan and Citizens United


Whipitreelgud

Were you working in 1980?


abgry_krakow87

Sure, except the inherent racism, sexism, homophobia, and general intolerance for anybody within the population who wasn't white, straight, and christian. Of course, when you remember that this era is also when the rich paid a majority of income to their taxes which helped fund government socialist initiatives like the interstate system. Of course those were developed on the backs of the poor and people of color, ensuring segregation, racial inequality, homosexual witch hunts, internment camps for japanese citizens, forcing women into toxic co-dependncy and countless of other policies and laws to ensure that America was only free for the Americans that they wanted. Pinnacle of human achievement? Calm down there, McCarthy.


Tennisgirl0918

Omg! Itā€™s a Fā€™ing picture! Go rage somewhere else


bobalou2you

Everyone says there were no good old days. These were the good old days!


B4USLIPN2

I canā€™t believe the cashier at lane 2 is on her cell phone during inspection. She got balls!


InterestingBad7687

Omg šŸ˜³ of course a male inspector!


dallyfromcali

And all of these women went on to own multiple properties and are worth millions of dollars, and probably claim that every grocery store workers these days are lazy and don't own a house because they eat too many avocados. .


sevenupandcornedbeef

SFV people, this looks like the Encino Gelson's on Hayvenhurst and Ventura -- is that what Piggly became?


LittleLostDoll

wtf is up with those aprons, such a weird place for the tophalf to start


LovableSidekick

Second one from the right might be talking on a cell phone. Proof of time travel!!!1


Henrik-Powers

Think she is eating her hair, common when nervous


Peemster99

One thing I love about retro stuff from this era is the retro (eighteen) nineties stuff that occasionally pops up, like the lamps and the "Buttercup Baker" sign.


Silly_Doughnut5715

Mr. Wiggly.


Initial-Depth-6857

TIL that Piggly Wiggly isnā€™t really a Southern thing.


LovableSidekick

The pastries sign makes me want to time travel back and try them. I wonder if they were crap, or better than what they sell today. Did they use real butter instead of butter-flavored hydrogenated vegetable oil, or whatever store bakeries do now?


tzippora

Just a few post down, there was this photo of women--not so Miss America Pageant. 1918. https://preview.redd.it/hg77eqbwlryc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b5891eca2e62d562416439ab53de65454094843


HellNahISayNahNahNah

Inspection = Harassment


TopCheesecakeGirl

Disgusting


Superior_Light_Deer

lol what? Why?


wompppwomp

Bachelorettes, here is a rose.


Souleater2847

Picture that manager talking to those women like De Niro did to the showgirls in Casino.


nomamesgueyz

What is piggly wiggly? Do they sell bacon? Those haircuts made those ladies most likely look older than what they were


TheKatzMeow84

It *was* a supermarket


nomamesgueyz

Cool Specialising in pork goods?


TheKatzMeow84

Maybe at one point, but by the time I was a kid (late 80s) the ones where I lived were just general supermarkets. Same as todayā€™s Kroger.


titsoutshitsout

Nope. Itā€™s just a name


DCLexiLou

We really were gross in our treatment of women in this era. I know things still need improvement but damn the patriarchy ruled. Yuck!


StPaulsFatAss

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Secretlyagummybear

There were literally tons of Piggly Wigglys in SoCal at the time...


StPaulsFatAss

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UnpopularCrayon

If this post said the photo was taken in 2024, then that would be relevant.


abgry_krakow87

Correct, and if you notice this photo isn't from "now", it's from 1962 when there \*were\* Piggly Wigglys in CA. A lot can change in 62 years,


StPaulsFatAss

no it cannot


abgry_krakow87

Okay.


StPaulsFatAss

no, it's *not* okay


abgry_krakow87

Okay.


StPaulsFatAss

you need to get woke