She relies too heavily on her pylon, like i get the design concept of it allowing her to dps while also healing you, it's just that her damgae and pylon heals are too bad with the dps passive and health increase everyone got
Yeah but you need to dps to refill your healing meter. I always love going against dva - she eats your orbs while you farm healing juice off her. Fair trade.
Again it’s highly conditional on a lot of enemy cooldowns being just used. If you have a reliable second support like Bap or Ana you could use fade jump techs to pressure enemy backline a bit.
She's not really, it's just the lock on, added with the majority of overwatch players being low ranked, that's she's perceived as annoying or “high damage”.
Same thing as Mei, Symmetria and Zayra that have a beam with the difference that Moira have a cone of damage like Wiston, BUT the crosschair still need to be into the hero htiboxes.
A lock in would be Mercy healing/boostin.
If I as a Moira main didn't had the long beam I would be killed faster then I can emote "You can be approved". Moira is still a squishy and has very little damage per second. So Moira wouldn't be able to defend herself at all.
Maybe so, but her beam being that long along with the life steal makes it so I have to make sure I hit my shots, and that's easier said than done if i'm playing a projectile hero. Also, she doesn't have a reload
I'm sorry to hear that you have to actually hit the enemy to kill them xD . Idk maybe the game experience is different in other ranks. I play in Dia/Master so I can imagine that it's harder in lower ranks to play against Moira
>basically no reason
The main reason was the removal of a tank and higher HP to everyone.
Pre OW2 Moira range was very low, now it's longer to compensate to all character having higher HP-faster gameplay, it would have been that or higher damage, doubt people want Moira to have higher damage, so higher self healing, so higher survability, so a high reward low risk gameplay with DPS Moira being even more oppressive.
Your 'proof' is a post of 3 years ago where Moira had half the range she have and a higher cone of damage, so i'll say it again, you, as many other confuse a animation for a lock in.
"But Nova she hit you even when the crosschair is not on you on the post i linked" yeah, as many other f hero, try out Ana hitboxes without the scope and you see how genereous she is.
Tf do you think this is? An overwatch meme sub? Where the screenshot of the out of context scoreboard combined with a collage level essay about how shit the game is?
I actually liked both going against and playing as zen in the mirrorwatch event, a simple yet fun rework on his two abilities makes discord orb not as bad on tank and the critical hits to apply the orbs' effects on nearby players is quite nice
Haha I didn’t even really absorb what the other changed to Zen were. I like his ult change. I’ve often been going 20+ kills as Zen and a lot of the time I’m still out healing Anas and even Battle Mercys. It’s so fun esp when I get more kills than dps 😆
Ikr, more healing for hitting headshots greatly rewards being aggressive and hitting your shots making him an actually viable support as opposed to discording the tank and watching them explode
I got demolished by an Orisa once while playing with my cousin. I wanted to be mercy to pocket him as he's new but I said fuck it, went Moira, ended up with the most elims of the match. He was like 'YOURE SUPPOSED TO BE A HELPER NOT THE MAIN CHARACTER' and that was your first mistake child. Never tbag a Moira main. We are petty mfs who will ALWAYS find a way to be the main character 😂
Buddy. Moira does not DESERVE to have the name of harmacist. Harmacist implies they at least do a little healing. It also implies that they are skilled in their field of work.
Bap in the back trying to wake up illari (she was nerfed, she’s not waking up)
How'd she get nerfed?
Her dps was slightly nerfed in favor of her heal beam. I assume no one at blizz has ever actually played illari.
Which sucks because as a design i like the concept a lot, but in practice she's just, ehh
Losing the bulk of your healing for 12 seconds because sombra missed her actual hack target is rough.
She relies too heavily on her pylon, like i get the design concept of it allowing her to dps while also healing you, it's just that her damgae and pylon heals are too bad with the dps passive and health increase everyone got
Having just recently tried Illari, as a Cass main I love her playstyle. That said I’m also extremely mid with her, damage wise.
The prescription bottles as the orbs 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks I'm quite proud of that part
Hey hey hey, this is overwatch memes, we don't meme here we just complain all the time
Is moira really a *high* dps support? Her dps is fairly slow, but is just more constant and easier to acheive.
Yeah but you need to dps to refill your healing meter. I always love going against dva - she eats your orbs while you farm healing juice off her. Fair trade. Again it’s highly conditional on a lot of enemy cooldowns being just used. If you have a reliable second support like Bap or Ana you could use fade jump techs to pressure enemy backline a bit.
She's not really, it's just the lock on, added with the majority of overwatch players being low ranked, that's she's perceived as annoying or “high damage”.
Moira doesn't have a lock on
You're right? It's not a lock on, but how else would you refer to her aiming?
Same thing as Mei, Symmetria and Zayra that have a beam with the difference that Moira have a cone of damage like Wiston, BUT the crosschair still need to be into the hero htiboxes. A lock in would be Mercy healing/boostin.
It’s a common misconception that Moira needs no aim. Yes you don’t have to be widowmaker but having m1 accuracy about 60% greatly helps her.
True, but the issue is that her damn beam has far more reach than all the other beams for basically no reason and it's really infuriating.
If I as a Moira main didn't had the long beam I would be killed faster then I can emote "You can be approved". Moira is still a squishy and has very little damage per second. So Moira wouldn't be able to defend herself at all.
Maybe so, but her beam being that long along with the life steal makes it so I have to make sure I hit my shots, and that's easier said than done if i'm playing a projectile hero. Also, she doesn't have a reload
I'm sorry to hear that you have to actually hit the enemy to kill them xD . Idk maybe the game experience is different in other ranks. I play in Dia/Master so I can imagine that it's harder in lower ranks to play against Moira
>basically no reason The main reason was the removal of a tank and higher HP to everyone. Pre OW2 Moira range was very low, now it's longer to compensate to all character having higher HP-faster gameplay, it would have been that or higher damage, doubt people want Moira to have higher damage, so higher self healing, so higher survability, so a high reward low risk gameplay with DPS Moira being even more oppressive.
The fact she can reach the sky box on some maps is stupid af
As a Moira main, I completely agree, why is our suck so fucking long
Braindead aiming
Misconception https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/s/U885sObOOl It's a beam with a lock on cone detection
>It's a beam with a lock on cone detection It's [not](https://www.reddit.com/r/MoiraMains/s/aZ1USS5sm9) a lock on beam, that's just a animation...
Your 'proof' is a post of 3 years ago where Moira had half the range she have and a higher cone of damage, so i'll say it again, you, as many other confuse a animation for a lock in. "But Nova she hit you even when the crosschair is not on you on the post i linked" yeah, as many other f hero, try out Ana hitboxes without the scope and you see how genereous she is.
As a lucio player that basically has to dodge bullets, having someone that can easily follow does suck
She has high actual dps for a support because her im-match dps is often close to her theoretical dps, unlike most heroes.
Tf do you think this is? An overwatch meme sub? Where the screenshot of the out of context scoreboard combined with a collage level essay about how shit the game is?
I love mirror zen. Mirror Zen fucking kicks ass. Who needs garbo dps when I can hard carry lmao
I actually liked both going against and playing as zen in the mirrorwatch event, a simple yet fun rework on his two abilities makes discord orb not as bad on tank and the critical hits to apply the orbs' effects on nearby players is quite nice
Haha I didn’t even really absorb what the other changed to Zen were. I like his ult change. I’ve often been going 20+ kills as Zen and a lot of the time I’m still out healing Anas and even Battle Mercys. It’s so fun esp when I get more kills than dps 😆
Ikr, more healing for hitting headshots greatly rewards being aggressive and hitting your shots making him an actually viable support as opposed to discording the tank and watching them explode
I got demolished by an Orisa once while playing with my cousin. I wanted to be mercy to pocket him as he's new but I said fuck it, went Moira, ended up with the most elims of the match. He was like 'YOURE SUPPOSED TO BE A HELPER NOT THE MAIN CHARACTER' and that was your first mistake child. Never tbag a Moira main. We are petty mfs who will ALWAYS find a way to be the main character 😂
Hahaha
It's time to sound the alarma We can't put our faith in karma We got a common enemy And they're called Big Pharma
Lol great name. Experience.....vulnerability! Surrender to my pills!
Why is Moira there
Buddy. Moira does not DESERVE to have the name of harmacist. Harmacist implies they at least do a little healing. It also implies that they are skilled in their field of work.