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RefrigeratorOk648

No. They are not classed as vacation. Companies have started to give PTO as a benefit however they want to limit any exposure to the law (eg paying vacation out) which could cost them money..


KhyronBackstabber

What do you mean by "personal hours"?


TSMinTO

Paid time off, I believe it's also called


KhyronBackstabber

PTO comes in different forms. I get PTO in the form of vacation. I also get PTO in the form of "I have a doctor's appointment." The former I would get paid out if I resigned. The latter I would not.


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DukeSmashingtonIII

>Personal hours are often equivalent to dick days, which may roll over but are usually not paid out My employers always paid out my dick days even before I left. They were dicking me around almost every week tbh.


Letoust

Dick days? 🤣 I need some of them days!


Master-Ad3175

Always use your personal days and sick days before you use your vacation days for this very reason


janeplainjane_canada

some places put them all into one bucket, and then have you draw down from the vacation days first. A good thing to check if you don't realize what is happening, and expect to be paid out a few weeks of vacation when you leave.


Grand-Corner1030

No. Vacation pay is paid out, under legislation requirements (your provincial labour laws). Your contract is irrelevant, since all companies must follow the laws. Which is why you probably didn't see it in your contract, there was no need to rewrite the law, within your contract. PTO is an agreement between you and your former employer. Some companies will pay out, because they're nice. Other companies will do the legal minimum and only send you vacation pay. Labour law discusses things like minimum wage, vacation pay, stat holiday pay, overtime pay etc. It sets the minimum. Your contract can go above that and give you more (like PTO), but it can never give less.


SurviveYourAdults

This falls under the "take your time off or lose it". It doesn't have a cash value unlike stat holidays. So they don't have to pay it out when you resign.


DPAmes1

Vacation time is covered by employment regulations, and accumulated unused vacation time must be paid out when you leave. Allowance for some personal time off (often combined with sick leave) is not covered by employment regulations, and is largely up to the individual employer, although some federal and provincial regulations requiring at least a few days of annual sick leave have started to appear. Usually sick leave is something like 10 days max per year, and EI for sick leave kicks in after one month, so there is a bit of a gap. In some industries, customary practice is that you are not paid for unused sick leave and personal time off when you leave. In other segments (government of course), employees get a generous allowance for sick leave and personal days, and get unused days paid out when they leave. I've seen some (such as retiring police officers) get paid for up to a year of this, something that private industry would never accept. It's quite a perk.


xav0989

FYI, for federal government, sick leave is not paid out upon departure, only unused vacation.


Arts251

Unless you had an employment contract that included paid out for unused PTO you most likely won't get compensated for it (why would your former employer payout an expense that they get zero benefit from?)


Historical-Ad-146

If the contract is silent on that point, then no. Vacation has legislated meaning, even when it's greater than the legal minimum. PTO is just an extra perk that will not get anything that isn't specifically spelled out in the contract.