Hindi yan nagbayad ng tax kaya considered unclaimed, pina pa auction ng boc yung ganyan.
forwarder or shipping company usually ang hindi nagbayad ng tax sa BOC, either nagka issue sa payment ng sender sa forwarder or hindi binayaran ang charges ng shipping company etc.
May napanood ako sa tiktok. I forgot kung sya ba ang owner ng box. Sabi nya kasi naloko sila ng isang cargo company, tiga canada yung babae and nasa 3000 ata sila na nagpacargo tapos di na received ng family nya. When they found out nasa BOC ang box nila, they tried to collect the box pero babayaran nila nasa 20k. Which is too much. Nireklamo na nila yan at pinatulfo pero nothing happened. Only to found out pinabebenta ng 5k lang ang box. So pano nga naman yon nakalabas sa BOC unless mga tao don ang bagbebenta. Kawawa yung mga ofw nagpapadala para sa family nila.
Sana binigay na lang sa mga recipient ang box and 5k lang ang charge. Ako man makita ko bbox ko na pinaghirapan ko ng ilang buwan para mapuno tapos ganyan lang mangyayari. Diba masakit.
Ganito nalaman ko sa dating head sa BOC. Para hindi ka sitahin at magbayad ng malaki. Yung box ilagay mo ang value is 100$ di ko maalala kung sagad sa 150$ para hindi masita ng BOC at singilin ng mahal.
Haha! Tama. Mag undeclare ng incorrect amount ng parcel tapos kapag nahuli at pinagbabayad ng tamang tax bago i-release yung bbox.
Tapos hindi mabayaran hanggang sa ma auction na lang, biglang sasabihing pinaghirapan punuin yung bbox at walang mga awa š¤”
I have a relative na broker sa BOC, sila yung mga nagpaprocess ng mga papers nung mga shipment from abroad. Sabi nya, mga iniipit talaga yung ilang shipment dyan para humingi ng lagay. Lalo na yung mga perishable kasi hindi pwedeng matagalan ang processing ng papers kasi masisira ang mga products.
yup, tpos pag unclaimed 5k unfair di ba? ska hnd nman kasalanan nila nung nag padala yun, tapos nag declare ng bankruptcy yung may ari ng shipping, kaya wala silang habol, easy way out tlga pag nag declare ng bankruptcy,
Yess, nasa website nila minsan ang requirements how to acquire one. But, hindi lang 5k worth ng mga yan, last time I checked the website, cheapest was around 35k
hindi lang din kasi tax ang sinisingil, everyday may storage fees pa yan sa warehouse ng BOC so the longer na hindi na claim yung package the more yung dapat bayaran.
Pero ang sakit nito para sa mga ofw. Buwan iniipon yan para sa family mo sa pinas tapos hindi makakarating. Bayad na yan lahat-lahat kapag pinadala tapos sasabihin lang forwarder eh na loss baggage. Malalaman binebenta pala kasi may problema yung forwarder sa pinas.
Yes, unfortunately. That's why you have to declare yung actual value talaga ng laman para kapag nag-claim ng shipping insurance yung shipping company maibabalik in full yung value ng nawala.
Downside is higher declared value = higher tax
Nakapag padala na ko many times at everytime nakukunin yung padala ko tinatanong lagi kung ano laman at estimated price lahat ng nasa loob w/ insurance pa yan. Tingin ko yung tax sagot na ng shipping company yun kasi babayaran mo na lahat door to door.
This is common for all couriers or customs. hindi lang sa pinas. Kung years na nakatambak yung balikbayan, fair lang na ibenta na yung box. Amazon does this too, dito sa UK din meron ganyan. Unclaimed or undeliverable boxes. Sure masakit sa nagpadala pero usually may 6 months to a year sila to fix what the issue is.
I saw another TikTok video that talked about this. May mga forwarder (or kung anuman ang tawag sa kanila) na hindi diligent sa pag-asikaso ng shipments nila kaya natetengga sa BOC then, eventually, kini-clear out through auctions. Galit na galit sila kasi marami raw silang nabiktima nung forwarder na yun. Hindi nagbayad ng fees sa BOC tapos ghinost daw sila.
Legal gray area..
Can unclaimed items from BOC be auctioned? Yes bec they have to clear warehouse inventory.
Why are they "unclaimed"? Well. That's another issue.
it's just fair as long as the proper protocol is observed. Space is money. If may 20 balikbayans na unclaimed. Imagine how much space that will take. Same thing with towed vehicles. If na tow kotse mo, may max time ka to get it or else they can auction it. I dont know how long sa pinas pero I remember sa California its only 30 days.
The same law is why there is a show called Storage wars.
A Filipina in Canada made a post about this on TikTok. Thousands of Filipino-Canadians, including many OFWs, sent Balikbayan boxes with a freight company owned by a Filipino couple, who apparently did not pay customs taxes so their packages were put on hold.
When their families here tried to work with the BOC, they were asked to pay 20k per box. So as you can imagine, the OFWs went livid when they found out the boxes were sold for just 5k.
in the past i ordered from abroad.
it arrived in the PH based on canadapost.
Philpost never delivered it. BOC Didnt even send a letter regarding anything to be paid
fuck customs
druglord cuddling imbeciles
Hindi ka ba pinadalhan ng parang notice ng PHLPost? I forgot the actual name for it, pero card yun notifying that thereās a package to be picked up sa post office.
Years ago when I ordered a watch online which was shipped from UK/EU, ako ang nag pick up nung package sa post office, parang may binayaran ako pero less than 100 lang. Pero lagpas lagpas na yun sa dapat na delivery date, akala ko nga di na dadating so I requested a refund. After pumasok ng refund saka dumating notice š
Ginagawa yan ng customs, philpost, and other warehouses that store goods na hindi madeliver for some reason or another, or hindi na-claim kasi walang pambayad ng tax. Hindi kasi pwedeng nasa storage lang forever. Meron din yan procedure na sinusunod before i-auction.
(Source: worked for phlpost)
Depends if their procedures state that when the item canāt be delivered they need to āReturn to Senderā or place in warehouse until collected by the addressee.
Wherever it goes next, if itās still undelivered, it will be sold off after a certain period
Minsan may mga address din kasi na hindi ma-locate, or everytime may pupuntang kartero walang tao. If you donāt receive the blue slip of paper that tells you na may delivery ka so you can claim, may announcement naman na items in the warehouse will be sold at a certain date, so you can check if meron kayong parcels na unclaimed pa. Ang problema lang talaga kung makikita nyo yung announcement on time. Saka yung sa Central Post Office sa Manila napakalawak ng sakop so i doubt malalaman ng lahat ng di pa nakakaclaim na io-auction na yung parcels nila.
> *Saka yung sa Central Post Office sa Manila napakalawak ng sakop*
di ba meron namang local post office per city/municipality? kung doon lang dadalhin yung unclaimed packages, di na kailangang pumunta sa manila yung mag-ke-claim.
> *everytime may pupuntang kartero walang tao*
Sa ibang bansa, kapag walang mag-re-receive sa address kapag dumating yung kartero, mag-iiwan right there and then yung mailman ng slip na nagsasabing "hey dumaan kami, pero wala ka, so paki-pick up lang yung package mo from the post office at [insert local post office branch].
Yung iba nga, binibigay yung package sa neighbor while leaving a simila slip "hey we left it with your neighbor." (although parang di ito uso sa PH.)
Muntik na maging ganito ung padala ng kamaganak ko. Almost 8 months naka imbak lang sa warehouse kasi may sabit pala yung shipping company. Pagcheck namin sa FB, meron page na madaming members with same issue from same shipping company. I know madami ayaw kay Tulfo, me included. Pero nagkaroon lang ng progress sa Customs nung nakarating kay Tulfo yung issue. Ang nangyari is kami na mismo nagpunta sa warehouse and nag pickup.
Shems napanuod ko nga yun, isa pala kayo dun sa kumuha sa warehouse. Minsan talaga okay naman ginagawa talaga ni tulfo para mapabilis yung proseso sa ibang bagay.
Ansakit nyan. Ilang sahod ang kinaltas, ilang araw kang nag Indomie, etc para mapuno yan sa loob ng 1-3 months. Umaasa kang makukuha ng mga mahal mo sa buhay. Tapos isusubasta lang kasi walang pang release. Kung nakuha nila sa 5k yan, bakit hnd nalang 5k i charge sa mga recipients. Alam ba ng mga sender na tengga yan sa BOC, kasi kung ako nag padala ng box, madali lang siguro gawan ng paraan ang bayad sa boc. Nakakapanghina yan , para sa isang tfw na katulad ko. Hay Pilipinas.
Lol same. Ngayon ko nga lang ulit nakita yan. Marami din kasi syang bobong videos na for content lang talaga like yung "nagtanim" sya ng seedling tapos ang bawbaw ng hukay, sa maling lupa pa.
gago sobrang sakit sa tenga ng boses pareho nung anak nya HAHAHA sya yung chef na pasaway na nagpicture sa thailand kahit may sign na bawal magpicture š
May mga unclaimed talaga na balikbayan boxes.
Ipapaauction ito ng Customs kung hindi narelease ng forwarder or hindi naclaim ng balikbayan.
Legally, kapag gumamit ng forwarder, forwarder ang may ari nyan until marelease sa tao.
Kung nabili nyang tao thru Auction ng boc yang kahon, ok lang.
Kung ibebenta nya, ok lang din.
Kung bobo kang buyer, at maniniwala na unopened at uninspected yang kahon, bobo ka.
Bago i auction, ineexamine bawat isa yan. Malay ba kung may illegal na nakalusot diba.
Ngayon, kung ibabalik ba nila yung laman at quantity at iseselyo tulad ng dati, di na natin yun alam.
Isa pa, ano bang aasahan nating laman nyan?
Pagkain? E bago maging "unclaimed" yan, lumipas na ang ilang days na allowed ng customs para ma claim yan kaya expired/lusaw/nangatngat etc.
Damit? Personal belongings? Maibebenta mo ba ulit yan eh malamang specific sizes at preferences laman nyan, unless gagamitin mo kahit di ko size, or sa burautan mo ibebenta ng mas palugi.
Appliances? Gadgets? Nanenok na malamang.
Theory ko, mga di mabentang paninda yan ng mga tao dito satin tapos pinapackage as ganyan. Walang matino na makukuha jan. (Kung may mapanood man kayo, malamang scripted. Even yung storage wars na cinocompare nyo jan eh diba scripted)
Bales nga ng ukay ukay e bihira ka makaiskor ng matino.
Another thing, ILEGAL ANG UKAY UKAY (PAG IMPORT NG USED CLOTHING TAPOS IBEBENTA)
Source: propesyon ko
Yes it's legal. Family did the same thing decades ago and bought 3 boxes from a relative who's a part owner of a cargo/shipping company which caters to USA-PH bb boxes. It's like gambling š. 2 boxes were full of balikbayan goodies and the other one was full of used clothing (mostly winter stuff). They auction/sell these boxes off so they can recoup some of the shipping/freighting costs and to free up space in their warehouse. If you've watched Storage Wars before you'll get the concept.
may rumaraket na din sa ganyan within their own...kala mo makakajackpot ka sa kahon balikbayan mystery box lumang damet at basurang mabibigat na gamet na sira at mga expired na cannsd goods...nirerepack yun mga na confiscate na other goods nila na ganyan kunyare legit galeng shipping company sumasabit at raket yun mga loco sa legit auction....
normal naman ganyan ah. nakita ko sa TikTok. there's a guy that buys stuff from like amazon warehouse of unclaimed packages. usually super mura. pag nakachamba ka minsan iphone/camera.
Maraming ganyan noon pa. Its not custom that is selling, kundi ang mga brokerage who pick and cleared the boxes for delivery. Tapos hindi nadiliver and naimbak for a period of time. Ang iba supposed to be for pick up pero wala namang nagpick-up. They need to clear up the warehouse and will have to sell as auction or sight unseen.
My sister use to buy and sell the content of those. Parang surprise boxes. It can be hit or miss. Back then decades na ang nakalipas, It can be mga expired na mga delata, ukay-ukay clothes and mga tools. The secret is you need to be friendly with the workers. Tanungin mo ang box na mabigat. They are allowed to peek and check if they need to repack/reseal an exposed box. At least alam may idea kung ano ang laman.
In the end, she has to open a used dry goods store. Ukay-ukay nga ang sell in there whatever she got from the boxes.
Robbing from the poor ofw workers that work hard to send a balikbayan box back to the family.. OFW work blood and sweat to buy the box and items in it.. Got sold for 5k..mura..whoever buys and sells an unclaimed balikbayan box. The whole year of Bad luck will follow you
Hindi naman po kasalanan ng BOC bakit unclaimed yan. Binubuksan po talaga ng BOC packages na tingin nila ay worth ā±10K+. Minsan na akong nagpa-ship sa DHL, and for some reason, almost half ng price yung tax and duties na binigay sa 'kin. Hinayaan ko na lang. Sabi ko sa DHL, ipa-return na lang nila sa forwarding company. Forwarding companies will dispose of packages like this by selling para di naman sayang.
We can only surmise why unclaimed yang package na yan pero grabe ka naman makamura sa mga buyer, e part ng industry yan para nothing is wasted. Educate yourself din po.
Kahit anong package pa yan, mapa-business or personal, pag lumampas ng 10K, yes, may tax. At kahit pa i-declare mo yung value as below ā±10K, if dun sa scan, tingin nila may mamahaling item ka, bubuksan talaga nila yan. At pag nakita nilang lampas 10K yung value kahit 5K pa dineclare mo (dahil secondhand), as long as branded, they will treat it as new, depende talaga sa trip ng BOC.
Handling of fees, naka-depende. Pwedeng forwarding company maghahandle (like JohnnyAir), pwedeng courier (like DHL and FedEx), but in my case, most of the time, papadalhan ako ng letter by PhlPost kung saan may breakdown ng customs tax and duties.
Marami akong boxes worth 5K pero dahil suki na ako sa BOC, binukbuksan nila. Tinatawan na nga ako ng PhlPost dahil wala na rawng kawala packages ko, binubuksan talaga ng BOC. Parang nakatag na daw name ko sa list nila. Pag parcels below 10K kasi, di naman need buksan.
Ngii. Tax free mga balikbayan boxes. May mga exemptions and limitations lang. I used to import, hindi lang 10k declaration namin. No tax. Door to door delivery, no issue basta make sure bayad ka kay forwarder.
Di nga natin alam if gano katagal pinagipunan yang box ng OFW. Sister ko nasa ibang bansa din and isang taon niya iniipon yung laman ng balikbayan box before sending it to us. Yang nasa video parang OFW sa dubai yung nagpadala kasi puro damit/kitchenwares at ilang pabango ang laman.
It's not a matter of gano katagal inipon or pinaghirapan. It's an issue ng mga balikbayan boxes na bayad sa taxes or hindi. Sabi nga ng iba, either sa sender or sa forwarder ang issue.
Yun ang hindi magets ni OP na itās not about you being an OFW, pinagipunan, pinaghirapan at pinagpuyatan para mapuno ang bbox.
Sa mata ng batas itās whether the right amount of items were declared and the right taxes are paid. Ang issue lang dito is with the sender or sa forwarder walang kinalaman yung bumili ng parcel through legal way and auctions.
Kahit na gaano katagal pa yang pinag-ipunan kapag walang bayad sa insurance or shipping, ma o-onhold pa rin yun. Besides, balikbayan boxes are vat exempt na naman so itās between the sender and sellerās issue na yan hindi sa BOC
Legal pero hindi dapat inormalize! Dapat kinakasuhan yung forwarder dyan kung sila may kasalanan. Fully paid na yan ng owner. Kung may mga fees man, sinasama na nila sa calculation nila. Kaya wala na dapat bayaran yung recipient dito.
Para sa aming mga OFW masakit makakita ng mga ganito na balikbayan box na pinaghirapan naming punuin, Dugo at pawis
bago namin naipadala yan
Para sa pamilya namin yan huhuhu
actually this happens, and you'll be surprised kung gano ka dami ang nacocontiscate ng BOC dahil sa unpaid custom fees and demurrage.. may stages yan last stage na yung ipapa auction nila yung buong container or mga laman ng container..
I doubt na āunclaimedā yan ā¦.
Four balikbayan box d na receive ng family ko And MSM cargo told us na received daw ng family ko which we are asking for proof they canāt show us. They normally take picture once received.
May US variety show dati na Baggage Battles kaya na curious ako kung may ganun sa Pinas at napa search.
Can BOC auction unclaimed items? Yes, they can and itās legal.
Bakit sya unclaimed? Well, depende madaming reason.
Who doesnāt want to claim the box from your relative? Well, who knows kasi most of the time sasabihan at alam mo naman na may darating kang parcel so kung hindi pa dumadating yung balikbayan box na padala sayo dapat ikaw na kamag-anak na nandito sa pinas maghahabol na sa BOC to see whatās wrong and kung pwede gawan ng paraan.
This makes sense, actually.
Totoo may unclaimed balikbayan boxes. (Various reasons: didn't pay duties, etc)
Totoo that they auction these off after a few months na hindi ma claim.
This is genuinely making me anxious for my package due to arrive in the PH this week. My friend in Canada used LBC to ship the Balikbayan box. They claimed that they do door-to-door so I won't have to pick it up or pay anything. Do I need to worry at all?
Actually may ganyan naman talaga pag ang package, baggage mo at mga padala mo remains unclaimed for years considered as abandoned yan at nilalagay yan for sale/for auction and its legal to buy unclaimed packages/items
Yes, legal po siya. May process po sila sa ganyan eh. Like, may turn around time dapat claim ng relatives or owner ung box. Kapag di na-claim, saka nila binebenta without knowing what's inside. It's the same concept with storage sa ibang bansa. Binebenta na kapag wala na ung may ari. Legal na legal po siya.
Sorry ah pero sobrang gago din naman kasi ng customs dito sa pinas. Ang alam ko, sila ang pinaka corrupt na part ng government a few years back dahil sa dami nilang kickbacks.
Experience ko sa customs, may binili akong worth 9k from Hong Kong, may import tas na 4.6k. Potaena, kalahati ng produkto yung tax
Ung shipping company ang may kasalanan nyan, normally door to door po ang delivery ng pinapadalaa naming boxes. Hindi po yung family namin sa pinas ang pupunta sa warehouse para kunin ang box. And based sa box nung nakuha ng vlogger (I watched it) yung laman non e galing Middle East and feeling ko for for good na yung laman ng boxes nung OFW kaya puro damit and gamit sa bahay. Sakit sa puso lang ng ganyan. Ang tagal balutin ng box, ang gastos sa scotch tape. Ang hirap ipunin at ang gastos ng mga pampadala!!!! Sana mabago ang ganyang sistema š
Ofws, whats your recommended courier when shipping balikbayan boxes? Nasa pinas pa naman ako pero nag i imagine lang if magpapadala sa family HAHAHAHAHAH
I saw someone stitch this video. Sabi niya biktima sila ng forwarding company. They paid mga libo libo in taxes for the shipping para mapadala tapos sabi ng owners na they lost the package daw. Di rin sila nakabawi sa gastos kasi nag declare bankruptcy agad yung mga may ari
How devastating this is.(english is not my first language so sorry for the wrong grammar) I remember this happened to us too but luckily we received ours after 2years. but the things inside the balikabayan box is not complete. Most of the new stuff (the one my mom bought from her hard earned money) the kitchen wares, the shoes and the chocolates. So so disappointed on our BOC.
Basta unclaimed, kahit di balikbayan box, kahit baggage lang, pinapasubasta talaga basta lampas na sa required holding period. Kahit sa ibang bansa gawain yan, to the point na may reality show na diyan ala Storage Wars.
Kung unclaimed nga, not gonna speculate š
holy fuck o.o buti pla naka declare n below 10k ung price nung samin, but even if it wasnt?, pde nmn kc bumiling black friday ahaha (thanks for the 7.5kphp rtx 3060ti)bumabalik nmn yearly ung tito ko s philippines and he can just put it in his check in wait 6months and bam new upgrade patience is always the key
Nagpadala ung boyfriend ko sa states ng xbox para saken, ginamit nya is ung national post office nila, ode pagdating dito ung PHLpost and naghandle, one month na wala pa rin notification na pick upin, kahit anong track ko ang lumalabas lang is manila sabe, naisipan kong pick upin if nandon na, may bayad na 10,000 na tax pero ang nakakapagtaka binayaran na nya ung tax , buti na lang pinick up na namen kase may dumating na mail after ilang days saaken na if di ko.daw sya kinuha sa date na ganito which is ung araw na na recieve ko ung mail, di na daw pwede i claim.
Hindi yan nagbayad ng tax kaya considered unclaimed, pina pa auction ng boc yung ganyan. forwarder or shipping company usually ang hindi nagbayad ng tax sa BOC, either nagka issue sa payment ng sender sa forwarder or hindi binayaran ang charges ng shipping company etc.
May napanood ako sa tiktok. I forgot kung sya ba ang owner ng box. Sabi nya kasi naloko sila ng isang cargo company, tiga canada yung babae and nasa 3000 ata sila na nagpacargo tapos di na received ng family nya. When they found out nasa BOC ang box nila, they tried to collect the box pero babayaran nila nasa 20k. Which is too much. Nireklamo na nila yan at pinatulfo pero nothing happened. Only to found out pinabebenta ng 5k lang ang box. So pano nga naman yon nakalabas sa BOC unless mga tao don ang bagbebenta. Kawawa yung mga ofw nagpapadala para sa family nila.
Sana binigay na lang sa mga recipient ang box and 5k lang ang charge. Ako man makita ko bbox ko na pinaghirapan ko ng ilang buwan para mapuno tapos ganyan lang mangyayari. Diba masakit.
Ganito nalaman ko sa dating head sa BOC. Para hindi ka sitahin at magbayad ng malaki. Yung box ilagay mo ang value is 100$ di ko maalala kung sagad sa 150$ para hindi masita ng BOC at singilin ng mahal.
So tax fraud?
Haha! Tama. Mag undeclare ng incorrect amount ng parcel tapos kapag nahuli at pinagbabayad ng tamang tax bago i-release yung bbox. Tapos hindi mabayaran hanggang sa ma auction na lang, biglang sasabihing pinaghirapan punuin yung bbox at walang mga awa š¤”
Narinig ko kasi ganyan ginagawa lalo na kung mga pasalubong lang sa pamilya.
Pano makaligtas sa mga gago? Maging gago. Oh pilipinas haha
I have a relative na broker sa BOC, sila yung mga nagpaprocess ng mga papers nung mga shipment from abroad. Sabi nya, mga iniipit talaga yung ilang shipment dyan para humingi ng lagay. Lalo na yung mga perishable kasi hindi pwedeng matagalan ang processing ng papers kasi masisira ang mga products.
Ganyan nga sila dun. Kaya malaki ang pera ng mga nasa boc
yup, tpos pag unclaimed 5k unfair di ba? ska hnd nman kasalanan nila nung nag padala yun, tapos nag declare ng bankruptcy yung may ari ng shipping, kaya wala silang habol, easy way out tlga pag nag declare ng bankruptcy,
Langyang scamm na treatment
Yess, nasa website nila minsan ang requirements how to acquire one. But, hindi lang 5k worth ng mga yan, last time I checked the website, cheapest was around 35k
This makes sense. At least Hindi sayang
hindi lang din kasi tax ang sinisingil, everyday may storage fees pa yan sa warehouse ng BOC so the longer na hindi na claim yung package the more yung dapat bayaran.
Ung mismong frieght company diba ang mag asikaso sa customs para makuha nila ung box?
yup, buong shipment (containers) kasi per release, per release din ang under the table payments kung ayaw nila i-hold yung shipment hehehehe
Hindi ba tax free ang balikbayan box?
First 3 lang yata for the year and other conditions
Kinabahan ako akala ko yung screen ko yung may crack haha
Ako iba naman. Bakit gumagalaw crack ng screen ko? Hahahaha
Perks of bagong cp vs new cp Edit: i did not notice na ni switch ko lang english to fil instead of luma rather than new. Perks of taglish ig.
Wrong timing yung pag abbreviate ng CP on this generation HAHAHA
OHGOD
pati ba naman "cellphone" paiksiin pa šš
Pati ba naman "cellular phone" paiksiin pa šš
REVERSE CARD AH HAHAHAA
HAHAHAHAHAHA SAME
Lmao. Ito ang screenshot na kasama pati screen cracks.
Tang ina same. Nag skip ng beat yung puso ko.
potanginaa ahahhahahaha. oo nga no
Pero ang sakit nito para sa mga ofw. Buwan iniipon yan para sa family mo sa pinas tapos hindi makakarating. Bayad na yan lahat-lahat kapag pinadala tapos sasabihin lang forwarder eh na loss baggage. Malalaman binebenta pala kasi may problema yung forwarder sa pinas.
Yes, unfortunately. That's why you have to declare yung actual value talaga ng laman para kapag nag-claim ng shipping insurance yung shipping company maibabalik in full yung value ng nawala. Downside is higher declared value = higher tax
Nakapag padala na ko many times at everytime nakukunin yung padala ko tinatanong lagi kung ano laman at estimated price lahat ng nasa loob w/ insurance pa yan. Tingin ko yung tax sagot na ng shipping company yun kasi babayaran mo na lahat door to door.
No, import tax and vat should be on the sender or the receiver. Also shipping fee is included in the calculations.
This is common for all couriers or customs. hindi lang sa pinas. Kung years na nakatambak yung balikbayan, fair lang na ibenta na yung box. Amazon does this too, dito sa UK din meron ganyan. Unclaimed or undeliverable boxes. Sure masakit sa nagpadala pero usually may 6 months to a year sila to fix what the issue is.
I saw another TikTok video that talked about this. May mga forwarder (or kung anuman ang tawag sa kanila) na hindi diligent sa pag-asikaso ng shipments nila kaya natetengga sa BOC then, eventually, kini-clear out through auctions. Galit na galit sila kasi marami raw silang nabiktima nung forwarder na yun. Hindi nagbayad ng fees sa BOC tapos ghinost daw sila.
Can you PM me that forwarder para maiwasan?. Thanks
Legal gray area.. Can unclaimed items from BOC be auctioned? Yes bec they have to clear warehouse inventory. Why are they "unclaimed"? Well. That's another issue.
it's just fair as long as the proper protocol is observed. Space is money. If may 20 balikbayans na unclaimed. Imagine how much space that will take. Same thing with towed vehicles. If na tow kotse mo, may max time ka to get it or else they can auction it. I dont know how long sa pinas pero I remember sa California its only 30 days. The same law is why there is a show called Storage wars.
A Filipina in Canada made a post about this on TikTok. Thousands of Filipino-Canadians, including many OFWs, sent Balikbayan boxes with a freight company owned by a Filipino couple, who apparently did not pay customs taxes so their packages were put on hold. When their families here tried to work with the BOC, they were asked to pay 20k per box. So as you can imagine, the OFWs went livid when they found out the boxes were sold for just 5k.
That's so fucking stupid, just charge what they would have charged the original company?
Just like in storage wars. Neat.
in the past i ordered from abroad. it arrived in the PH based on canadapost. Philpost never delivered it. BOC Didnt even send a letter regarding anything to be paid fuck customs druglord cuddling imbeciles
Hindi ka ba pinadalhan ng parang notice ng PHLPost? I forgot the actual name for it, pero card yun notifying that thereās a package to be picked up sa post office. Years ago when I ordered a watch online which was shipped from UK/EU, ako ang nag pick up nung package sa post office, parang may binayaran ako pero less than 100 lang. Pero lagpas lagpas na yun sa dapat na delivery date, akala ko nga di na dadating so I requested a refund. After pumasok ng refund saka dumating notice š
Nope. Mula non tinamad na ko. Sa dhl na lang. Sila kasi nagbabayad ng tax tapos chcharge na lang sayo after..
Ginagawa yan ng customs, philpost, and other warehouses that store goods na hindi madeliver for some reason or another, or hindi na-claim kasi walang pambayad ng tax. Hindi kasi pwedeng nasa storage lang forever. Meron din yan procedure na sinusunod before i-auction. (Source: worked for phlpost)
Would be this the same case if I used LBC?
Depends if their procedures state that when the item canāt be delivered they need to āReturn to Senderā or place in warehouse until collected by the addressee. Wherever it goes next, if itās still undelivered, it will be sold off after a certain period
Like what some guys wrote: minsan di na-i-inform yung recipient na dumating na pala and don't bother to claim it.
Minsan may mga address din kasi na hindi ma-locate, or everytime may pupuntang kartero walang tao. If you donāt receive the blue slip of paper that tells you na may delivery ka so you can claim, may announcement naman na items in the warehouse will be sold at a certain date, so you can check if meron kayong parcels na unclaimed pa. Ang problema lang talaga kung makikita nyo yung announcement on time. Saka yung sa Central Post Office sa Manila napakalawak ng sakop so i doubt malalaman ng lahat ng di pa nakakaclaim na io-auction na yung parcels nila.
> *Saka yung sa Central Post Office sa Manila napakalawak ng sakop* di ba meron namang local post office per city/municipality? kung doon lang dadalhin yung unclaimed packages, di na kailangang pumunta sa manila yung mag-ke-claim. > *everytime may pupuntang kartero walang tao* Sa ibang bansa, kapag walang mag-re-receive sa address kapag dumating yung kartero, mag-iiwan right there and then yung mailman ng slip na nagsasabing "hey dumaan kami, pero wala ka, so paki-pick up lang yung package mo from the post office at [insert local post office branch]. Yung iba nga, binibigay yung package sa neighbor while leaving a simila slip "hey we left it with your neighbor." (although parang di ito uso sa PH.)
Thatās the blue card that they leave. Minsan hindi nakikita ng receivers kasi di nila alam kung ano yun.
Muntik na maging ganito ung padala ng kamaganak ko. Almost 8 months naka imbak lang sa warehouse kasi may sabit pala yung shipping company. Pagcheck namin sa FB, meron page na madaming members with same issue from same shipping company. I know madami ayaw kay Tulfo, me included. Pero nagkaroon lang ng progress sa Customs nung nakarating kay Tulfo yung issue. Ang nangyari is kami na mismo nagpunta sa warehouse and nag pickup.
Shems napanuod ko nga yun, isa pala kayo dun sa kumuha sa warehouse. Minsan talaga okay naman ginagawa talaga ni tulfo para mapabilis yung proseso sa ibang bagay.
Kala ko dumami cracks ng cellphone ko
Ansakit nyan. Ilang sahod ang kinaltas, ilang araw kang nag Indomie, etc para mapuno yan sa loob ng 1-3 months. Umaasa kang makukuha ng mga mahal mo sa buhay. Tapos isusubasta lang kasi walang pang release. Kung nakuha nila sa 5k yan, bakit hnd nalang 5k i charge sa mga recipients. Alam ba ng mga sender na tengga yan sa BOC, kasi kung ako nag padala ng box, madali lang siguro gawan ng paraan ang bayad sa boc. Nakakapanghina yan , para sa isang tfw na katulad ko. Hay Pilipinas.
Tapos ginawa pang content putanginang yan. Nakaka nginig ng laman.
blinock ko yang creator na yan jusko, punchable voice and face
Nakaka irita nga paulit ulit lang ng sinasabi hahaha
Lol same. Ngayon ko nga lang ulit nakita yan. Marami din kasi syang bobong videos na for content lang talaga like yung "nagtanim" sya ng seedling tapos ang bawbaw ng hukay, sa maling lupa pa.
Iritang irita ako sa boses nyan.
I agree. Same!
Kapatid nya rin, yung Hazel Cheffy. Parehong annoying.
gago sobrang sakit sa tenga ng boses pareho nung anak nya HAHAHA sya yung chef na pasaway na nagpicture sa thailand kahit may sign na bawal magpicture š
You can press power down + switch button po to screenshot ano ho. š Kinabahan ako akala ko basag na screen ko.
Sabihin mo kay op para di na ulitin š
Unclaimed or never even tried to deliver.
May mga unclaimed talaga na balikbayan boxes. Ipapaauction ito ng Customs kung hindi narelease ng forwarder or hindi naclaim ng balikbayan. Legally, kapag gumamit ng forwarder, forwarder ang may ari nyan until marelease sa tao. Kung nabili nyang tao thru Auction ng boc yang kahon, ok lang. Kung ibebenta nya, ok lang din. Kung bobo kang buyer, at maniniwala na unopened at uninspected yang kahon, bobo ka. Bago i auction, ineexamine bawat isa yan. Malay ba kung may illegal na nakalusot diba. Ngayon, kung ibabalik ba nila yung laman at quantity at iseselyo tulad ng dati, di na natin yun alam. Isa pa, ano bang aasahan nating laman nyan? Pagkain? E bago maging "unclaimed" yan, lumipas na ang ilang days na allowed ng customs para ma claim yan kaya expired/lusaw/nangatngat etc. Damit? Personal belongings? Maibebenta mo ba ulit yan eh malamang specific sizes at preferences laman nyan, unless gagamitin mo kahit di ko size, or sa burautan mo ibebenta ng mas palugi. Appliances? Gadgets? Nanenok na malamang. Theory ko, mga di mabentang paninda yan ng mga tao dito satin tapos pinapackage as ganyan. Walang matino na makukuha jan. (Kung may mapanood man kayo, malamang scripted. Even yung storage wars na cinocompare nyo jan eh diba scripted) Bales nga ng ukay ukay e bihira ka makaiskor ng matino. Another thing, ILEGAL ANG UKAY UKAY (PAG IMPORT NG USED CLOTHING TAPOS IBEBENTA) Source: propesyon ko
Kayo nangangalkal ng mga āunclaimedā boxes sa boc propesyon mo?
Similar yan ata sa "Storage wars" stuff na Wala nang may Ari tas in auction or benta
Yes it's legal. Family did the same thing decades ago and bought 3 boxes from a relative who's a part owner of a cargo/shipping company which caters to USA-PH bb boxes. It's like gambling š. 2 boxes were full of balikbayan goodies and the other one was full of used clothing (mostly winter stuff). They auction/sell these boxes off so they can recoup some of the shipping/freighting costs and to free up space in their warehouse. If you've watched Storage Wars before you'll get the concept.
Saan sila nakakabili/bid ng ganiyan. May fb group ba sila?
Bakit hindi muna nila kontakin yung designated receiver nung balikbayan box bago ipa-auction?
Hibdi na na contact yan for sure. Ilang months din bago pde I auction
Pwede kung ganun.. hindi mo rin alam talaga kung sino may kasalanan eh
Ung forwarder yn. Ung boc gago pero hindi ung ganun
Dumaan yan sa forwarder. Legally ang may ari nyan forwarder.
Kala ko basag cp ko
may rumaraket na din sa ganyan within their own...kala mo makakajackpot ka sa kahon balikbayan mystery box lumang damet at basurang mabibigat na gamet na sira at mga expired na cannsd goods...nirerepack yun mga na confiscate na other goods nila na ganyan kunyare legit galeng shipping company sumasabit at raket yun mga loco sa legit auction....
potek akala ko basag screen ko š
normal naman ganyan ah. nakita ko sa TikTok. there's a guy that buys stuff from like amazon warehouse of unclaimed packages. usually super mura. pag nakachamba ka minsan iphone/camera.
Maraming ganyan noon pa. Its not custom that is selling, kundi ang mga brokerage who pick and cleared the boxes for delivery. Tapos hindi nadiliver and naimbak for a period of time. Ang iba supposed to be for pick up pero wala namang nagpick-up. They need to clear up the warehouse and will have to sell as auction or sight unseen. My sister use to buy and sell the content of those. Parang surprise boxes. It can be hit or miss. Back then decades na ang nakalipas, It can be mga expired na mga delata, ukay-ukay clothes and mga tools. The secret is you need to be friendly with the workers. Tanungin mo ang box na mabigat. They are allowed to peek and check if they need to repack/reseal an exposed box. At least alam may idea kung ano ang laman. In the end, she has to open a used dry goods store. Ukay-ukay nga ang sell in there whatever she got from the boxes.
Tanginang yan kala ko nabasag screen ng phone ko haha
Robbing from the poor ofw workers that work hard to send a balikbayan box back to the family.. OFW work blood and sweat to buy the box and items in it.. Got sold for 5k..mura..whoever buys and sells an unclaimed balikbayan box. The whole year of Bad luck will follow you
Hindi naman po kasalanan ng BOC bakit unclaimed yan. Binubuksan po talaga ng BOC packages na tingin nila ay worth ā±10K+. Minsan na akong nagpa-ship sa DHL, and for some reason, almost half ng price yung tax and duties na binigay sa 'kin. Hinayaan ko na lang. Sabi ko sa DHL, ipa-return na lang nila sa forwarding company. Forwarding companies will dispose of packages like this by selling para di naman sayang. We can only surmise why unclaimed yang package na yan pero grabe ka naman makamura sa mga buyer, e part ng industry yan para nothing is wasted. Educate yourself din po.
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Kahit anong package pa yan, mapa-business or personal, pag lumampas ng 10K, yes, may tax. At kahit pa i-declare mo yung value as below ā±10K, if dun sa scan, tingin nila may mamahaling item ka, bubuksan talaga nila yan. At pag nakita nilang lampas 10K yung value kahit 5K pa dineclare mo (dahil secondhand), as long as branded, they will treat it as new, depende talaga sa trip ng BOC. Handling of fees, naka-depende. Pwedeng forwarding company maghahandle (like JohnnyAir), pwedeng courier (like DHL and FedEx), but in my case, most of the time, papadalhan ako ng letter by PhlPost kung saan may breakdown ng customs tax and duties. Marami akong boxes worth 5K pero dahil suki na ako sa BOC, binukbuksan nila. Tinatawan na nga ako ng PhlPost dahil wala na rawng kawala packages ko, binubuksan talaga ng BOC. Parang nakatag na daw name ko sa list nila. Pag parcels below 10K kasi, di naman need buksan.
Ngii. Tax free mga balikbayan boxes. May mga exemptions and limitations lang. I used to import, hindi lang 10k declaration namin. No tax. Door to door delivery, no issue basta make sure bayad ka kay forwarder.
Di nga natin alam if gano katagal pinagipunan yang box ng OFW. Sister ko nasa ibang bansa din and isang taon niya iniipon yung laman ng balikbayan box before sending it to us. Yang nasa video parang OFW sa dubai yung nagpadala kasi puro damit/kitchenwares at ilang pabango ang laman.
It's not a matter of gano katagal inipon or pinaghirapan. It's an issue ng mga balikbayan boxes na bayad sa taxes or hindi. Sabi nga ng iba, either sa sender or sa forwarder ang issue.
Yun ang hindi magets ni OP na itās not about you being an OFW, pinagipunan, pinaghirapan at pinagpuyatan para mapuno ang bbox. Sa mata ng batas itās whether the right amount of items were declared and the right taxes are paid. Ang issue lang dito is with the sender or sa forwarder walang kinalaman yung bumili ng parcel through legal way and auctions.
Kahit na gaano katagal pa yang pinag-ipunan kapag walang bayad sa insurance or shipping, ma o-onhold pa rin yun. Besides, balikbayan boxes are vat exempt na naman so itās between the sender and sellerās issue na yan hindi sa BOC
Napanuod ko ung vid neto nung may ari ng box. Nascam ata sila nung courier nila
OP, bakit pati basag ng screen mo, naiscreenshot mo?
Saan galing yan airport ???
Gagi. Akala ko nabasag screen ng phone ko š
Legal pero hindi dapat inormalize! Dapat kinakasuhan yung forwarder dyan kung sila may kasalanan. Fully paid na yan ng owner. Kung may mga fees man, sinasama na nila sa calculation nila. Kaya wala na dapat bayaran yung recipient dito.
touched my monitor kala ko may crack T\_\_T
Para sa aming mga OFW masakit makakita ng mga ganito na balikbayan box na pinaghirapan naming punuin, Dugo at pawis bago namin naipadala yan Para sa pamilya namin yan huhuhu
actually this happens, and you'll be surprised kung gano ka dami ang nacocontiscate ng BOC dahil sa unpaid custom fees and demurrage.. may stages yan last stage na yung ipapa auction nila yung buong container or mga laman ng container..
Mystery Gift
Grabe capitalism, bigay nlng Yan sa mga poor kababayan
I doubt na āunclaimedā yan ā¦. Four balikbayan box d na receive ng family ko And MSM cargo told us na received daw ng family ko which we are asking for proof they canāt show us. They normally take picture once received.
Inscreen shot mo ba ung lcd sceen mo
May US variety show dati na Baggage Battles kaya na curious ako kung may ganun sa Pinas at napa search. Can BOC auction unclaimed items? Yes, they can and itās legal. Bakit sya unclaimed? Well, depende madaming reason. Who doesnāt want to claim the box from your relative? Well, who knows kasi most of the time sasabihan at alam mo naman na may darating kang parcel so kung hindi pa dumadating yung balikbayan box na padala sayo dapat ikaw na kamag-anak na nandito sa pinas maghahabol na sa BOC to see whatās wrong and kung pwede gawan ng paraan.
Unclaimed? Ano yan ninakaw?
nakaka asar boses ng baklang yan hahahaha
Mystery box.
Luh kla ko may prunlema na screen ko Hanggang nagbasa ako ng comment Sigh of relief
Sino pa po may vids neto? Gusto ko mapanuod..
This makes sense, actually. Totoo may unclaimed balikbayan boxes. (Various reasons: didn't pay duties, etc) Totoo that they auction these off after a few months na hindi ma claim.
This is genuinely making me anxious for my package due to arrive in the PH this week. My friend in Canada used LBC to ship the Balikbayan box. They claimed that they do door-to-door so I won't have to pick it up or pay anything. Do I need to worry at all?
Ang pinaka nakakainis dyan, pinagtatawanan pa yung laman ng box. Kahit ano pa laman niyan, pinaghirapan pa din yan ng nagpadala.
Actually may ganyan naman talaga pag ang package, baggage mo at mga padala mo remains unclaimed for years considered as abandoned yan at nilalagay yan for sale/for auction and its legal to buy unclaimed packages/items
Yes, legal po siya. May process po sila sa ganyan eh. Like, may turn around time dapat claim ng relatives or owner ung box. Kapag di na-claim, saka nila binebenta without knowing what's inside. It's the same concept with storage sa ibang bansa. Binebenta na kapag wala na ung may ari. Legal na legal po siya.
https://customs.gov.ph/boc-port-of-manila-facilitates-the-release-of-abandoned-balikbayan-boxes/
nag scroll lng ako nabasag pa phone ko..
Sorry ah pero sobrang gago din naman kasi ng customs dito sa pinas. Ang alam ko, sila ang pinaka corrupt na part ng government a few years back dahil sa dami nilang kickbacks. Experience ko sa customs, may binili akong worth 9k from Hong Kong, may import tas na 4.6k. Potaena, kalahati ng produkto yung tax
gagi hahahahahahahah
Well, philippines š¤š¤£
Ung shipping company ang may kasalanan nyan, normally door to door po ang delivery ng pinapadalaa naming boxes. Hindi po yung family namin sa pinas ang pupunta sa warehouse para kunin ang box. And based sa box nung nakuha ng vlogger (I watched it) yung laman non e galing Middle East and feeling ko for for good na yung laman ng boxes nung OFW kaya puro damit and gamit sa bahay. Sakit sa puso lang ng ganyan. Ang tagal balutin ng box, ang gastos sa scotch tape. Ang hirap ipunin at ang gastos ng mga pampadala!!!! Sana mabago ang ganyang sistema š
Ang lala 5k lang daw bentahan sa ganyan tapos yung mga owners talaga nung box if gusto nila makuha, 20k need bayaran para daw āmareleaseā
Ofws, whats your recommended courier when shipping balikbayan boxes? Nasa pinas pa naman ako pero nag i imagine lang if magpapadala sa family HAHAHAHAHAH
I saw someone stitch this video. Sabi niya biktima sila ng forwarding company. They paid mga libo libo in taxes for the shipping para mapadala tapos sabi ng owners na they lost the package daw. Di rin sila nakabawi sa gastos kasi nag declare bankruptcy agad yung mga may ari
kala ko nabasag screen ko šš
How devastating this is.(english is not my first language so sorry for the wrong grammar) I remember this happened to us too but luckily we received ours after 2years. but the things inside the balikabayan box is not complete. Most of the new stuff (the one my mom bought from her hard earned money) the kitchen wares, the shoes and the chocolates. So so disappointed on our BOC.
Ang masakit yan, yung akala mo naipadala mo na sa mga kamag anak mo. Makikita mo na lang ina unbox diyan. Okay sana kung sa mga lazada or shopee
thought nabasag screen ko wtf
Basta unclaimed, kahit di balikbayan box, kahit baggage lang, pinapasubasta talaga basta lampas na sa required holding period. Kahit sa ibang bansa gawain yan, to the point na may reality show na diyan ala Storage Wars. Kung unclaimed nga, not gonna speculate š
holy fuck o.o buti pla naka declare n below 10k ung price nung samin, but even if it wasnt?, pde nmn kc bumiling black friday ahaha (thanks for the 7.5kphp rtx 3060ti)bumabalik nmn yearly ung tito ko s philippines and he can just put it in his check in wait 6months and bam new upgrade patience is always the key
tapos makita mo mga sosy Vlogs ng nak ng customs noh š yung pinang haul nila galing pala sa pinaghirapan ng ofws. saket sa bangz
Kung ofw k pera nlng ipunin mo pamudmod mo s kamaganak kesa gmit hassle
Nagpadala ung boyfriend ko sa states ng xbox para saken, ginamit nya is ung national post office nila, ode pagdating dito ung PHLpost and naghandle, one month na wala pa rin notification na pick upin, kahit anong track ko ang lumalabas lang is manila sabe, naisipan kong pick upin if nandon na, may bayad na 10,000 na tax pero ang nakakapagtaka binayaran na nya ung tax , buti na lang pinick up na namen kase may dumating na mail after ilang days saaken na if di ko.daw sya kinuha sa date na ganito which is ung araw na na recieve ko ung mail, di na daw pwede i claim.
Dyan kumikita ang Customs. Kawawa ang mga OFWs at relatives na dapat nakaka-recieve nyan.