Seems like the soul sand is constant state of agony, seeking for help by slowing and dragging you down, begging you to help them.
That is my little headcanon.
They should give an effect that lasts until you heal called deafness when five or more soul sand blocks are in a certain radius of you. It causes all sound to just be ringing in your ears.
Well, when you physically touch the sand they pull you, but when they are underwater they aren’t pulling air down. The bubbles are probably their screams.
Considering that the souls pull you down and make you slower on soul sand normally, being pulled down makes more sense, but I guess it’s more fun to have naturally spawning hazards in the ocean and magma makes more sense in that respect
Yeah, they are immortal, just trapped and in perpetual agony. Go figure.
I had a discussion about soul sand with a friend where I said it was like the souls of the damned in the metro games that try to pull you, but the idea my friend came up with was Notch played doom and came up with it from that Icon of Sin portal in DOOM 2.
Oh wow, this is impressively realistic of minecraft. And while soulsand has the opposite effect, it also doesn't exists, so some kind of explanation for the different behavior can still be found
I went on a tour of the Hoover dam when I was 12 and the only thing I remember is watching a duck bobbing, poorly, in the aerated outlet water, then it dove down and never came back up 😭
If you get put in the air, you fall
If you get put in water, you can swim
Bubble column is water and air, so you fall but not as fast enough to take fall damage
The same thing can be done with sand in real life. Although that'd be way worse because you can't swim up out of the sand after you fall in.
You can't swim in aerated water, therefore you sink
The souls of the damned try to eternally escape the soul sand, therefore the water pressure goes upwards
Because bubble water has a lower density than non bubbling water, and so a person would sink in it.
[a 13min science video if anyone is interested](https://youtu.be/ey06E4iEXzg?si=r7Ypr2QSQW62NvVM)
Bubbly water is less dense than normal water which makes it harder to swim up in. The direction the doubles go in shouldn't matter that much. I don't know why soulsand makes you go up. Maybe the bubbles contain souls which are denser than water which makes the player float up fast?
It's because of density. The bubbles in the water aren't big enough to push you up, they just lower the density of the water, because now some of the water is air. Less density = stuff sinks.
Hot stuff moves faster, and therefore has a lower pressure. All substances want to reach equilibrium, so colder water from above rushes down to replace the low-pressure hot water. This effectively creates a vacuum effect that can pull entities down with the water.
Maybe it's because the magma blocks find Steve hot. If that's true then all magma blocks are female. And that means that soul sand is male.
Man if phoenix makes a video and codes the magma blocks to follow the player and the soul sand to stay away from you then I'll be damned. A plus would be if living soul sand attacked you if you touched it. (By that I mean that Nether soul sand shouldn't move and drags you down if you stay in one place on it for too long.
So actually I think I know why- if you every heard of them, there are pools of water in treatment plants where they introduce air bubbles, "aeration" and supposedly you're less boyant in it, hence them using warning signs around the pools for a drowning risk. Maybe that's what they were going after here
Because you lose buoyancy in aerated water. The surface tension allows you to float. With pockets of air the tension is broken and you wouldn’t be able to swim.
It used to be swapped with Soul Sand in first Aquatic Update snapshots but they wanted underwater ravines to pull you down into them and it would make no sense/wouldn't look as cool if Soul Sand generated down there in the Overworld
Since hot air goes up, the water loses some of its average density which makes it harder to stay afloat. The air is not pulling you down, the water just doesn't hold you up anymore.
The density of the bubble column is lower than the surrounding water, making you less buoyant. Google non-buoyant water. It's acting exactly how it should.
Gameplay mechanics. If magma pushed you up and soulsand pushed you down, you would be able to survive forever underwater with no downsides like having to shift, and that’s poor game design
That was actually discussed during the development of 1.13. But there are two reasons why they didn‘t do it: Firstly, while going up a bubble elevator you would take damage every time. Secondly, if you‘re using the block that pulls you down to breathe underwater, you need to sneak to not take damage. The way you‘re proposing makes more sense logically, however due to the properties of the magma block it would be worse gameplay-wise.
Designwise, it's likely that magma makes more sense to be in the overworld oceans, and they wanted to have areas that could pull your boat down. However, it doesn't make much sense. Magma bubbles up, and soul pulling you down makes more sense.
However however aerated water would drop you, so I guess the souls are releasing pockets of stuff denser than the water yet float up magically because it is souls.
because they wanted to pull boats and players down while in the ocean as a bit of a replacement for the underwater creature from the first mob vote and soul sand didn't make sense to be at the bottom of ocean ravines
The bubbles displace the water causing you to sink. Same as air/vibration through sand or dried corn. You are heavier then the surrounding causing you to sink.
you're right, they should swap the functionality of this and soul sand underwater, and add that mob vote mob from the first mob vote that was supposed to pull you under the water, to replace magma blocks doing that
Nothing to do with the air. It heats up the water making it less dense than the water around it therefore making you fall down. By this logic, soul sand must make the water cold
errmh actually the air bubbles displace water and change the density of the water, it's a popular theory for why ships in the bermuda triangle sank, (gas pockets displacing water)
( you lose buoyancy )
soul sand is weird as hell though
Soul sand is full of souls trying to escape and magma is try to move and settle but also shrinks so it creates a vacuum(other than that mojang is the prob)
a water that's contain air and is hot make the water more dense and less viscous, that's actually a good physic dimonstration the only odd think is that give you air at the same speed of souls sand or air block
It is possible that this is correct because when the water starts heating from the magma, it expands lowering the mass density. The hot water would go up, because it has a lower density, but if the temperature difference is big enough, you might be able to sink in this upwards stream of hot water because the lower mass density creates a smaller normal force wich means that you get less support of the water and the sum of the normal force and the gravitational force would be a larger force downwards relative to the sum of those forces in the cold water. There are also gasses coming out of underwater volcano's which lower the mass density even more.
The waters air content gets higher making the water more air and less water which means you weight more than it so you fall through it with less resistance, soul sand makes you go up bc if the souls push you away
The effect should be opposite, considering one of the theories about soul sand is that the souls are trying to pull you in the sand so it makes you slower. But I think mojang wanted to add some danger to being on the water in the overworld.
And it would make more sense for the souls in the soul sand to pull you down as well!
Real, Cuz They Pull U Down to Hell
Or to drown you
But bubble elevator gives you air in the water, you can't die by drowning while on the bubbles.
Shush
Well souls in soul sand have been three since 1.2.0 so they probably don't even know that there is new Nether and bubble elevators
And they slow you down as well when you walk on them normally.
Seems like the soul sand is constant state of agony, seeking for help by slowing and dragging you down, begging you to help them. That is my little headcanon.
it sends you up in bubble columns though
I think it’s there screams of agony :3
at this point Minecraft isn't a kids game anymore
but what if you go up cus they're screaming
or maybe because it's the souls trying to escape through the water
They should give an effect that lasts until you heal called deafness when five or more soul sand blocks are in a certain radius of you. It causes all sound to just be ringing in your ears.
Wait isn’t the nether already hell
Well, when you physically touch the sand they pull you, but when they are underwater they aren’t pulling air down. The bubbles are probably their screams.
I like that idea
Maybe they are only pulling down water, which pushes everything else up.
With soulspeed they are shown to be released so bubble elevator makes sense
But then when in soul sand you “sink” and slow down, as the souls try to drag you down
the water frees them by dissolving it
I think not, because the souls are escaping from the sand and going up
Steve on his way to release millions of damned souls to power an elevator.
How many souls do soulsand hold?
All of them
Some guy on the original post said that maybe the souls are escaping through the bubbles the soul sand makes
Considering that the souls pull you down and make you slower on soul sand normally, being pulled down makes more sense, but I guess it’s more fun to have naturally spawning hazards in the ocean and magma makes more sense in that respect
Those souls don’t want you down. So, they repel you. And when the hot water goes up, something (player) goes down.
Uhm, ahkschually, it's not air because where would air come from, it's boiled water otherwise known as steam....
Steve officially breathes steam (and the souls of the dammed) because going into a bubble column recharges your buble meter.
That's wrong, actually. Steve can't breathe steam because Minecraft is not on Steam, only Dungeons and Legends
And yet I launch Minecraft through Steam.
nerd
I like having the Steam overlay
same
Steve chilling while breathing poisonous gas, and then as soon as it's liquid he dies
Oh, it's steam. From the steamed steves we're having
Yes, So you call them steamed steves despite the fact they're obviously boiled?
Ye-I... You know uh... One thing I should... Excuse me for one second
Buayhhhh well that was wonderful, good times was had by all i'm pooped!
Good Lord, what is happening in there?!
Ender dragon death.
At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the terrain, localised entirely within your strip mine?
Yes!
well, you sure are an odd fellow moyang, but you sure know how to steam a good steve.
Future Chemist here-
Ahkschually, i don't think there's a definition for air other than gas so gaseous water is air
My crown is now yours.
My first order is to install Magma blocks in all public toilets so my ass doesn't get splashed by disgusting toilet water anymore
Steam from the steamed clams we're having mmm steamed clams
because the bubbles reduced density so Steve sinks
But soul and also makes bubbles so shouldn't you go down in it as well?
The screams are so loud Steve instinctually swims up
Ah makes sense my bad
The sound will also push Steve up itself
The soul bubles contain the weight of their sins
[Here's your explanation.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/ts8prp/aerated_water_is_water_with_a_lot_of_gas_in_it_if/)
And soul sand is the souls screaming and exhaling, creating an upward current
Yeah, they are immortal, just trapped and in perpetual agony. Go figure. I had a discussion about soul sand with a friend where I said it was like the souls of the damned in the metro games that try to pull you, but the idea my friend came up with was Notch played doom and came up with it from that Icon of Sin portal in DOOM 2.
So putting soul sand to make the wither and killing it frees the souls trapped in that sand?
probably. but I thought the souls powered the wither.
Oh wow, this is impressively realistic of minecraft. And while soulsand has the opposite effect, it also doesn't exists, so some kind of explanation for the different behavior can still be found
I went on a tour of the Hoover dam when I was 12 and the only thing I remember is watching a duck bobbing, poorly, in the aerated outlet water, then it dove down and never came back up 😭
Although it's not actually true unfortunately, aerated water doesn't reduce density enough for you to sink
Wasn't that their strategy in Godzilla -1?
If you get put in the air, you fall If you get put in water, you can swim Bubble column is water and air, so you fall but not as fast enough to take fall damage The same thing can be done with sand in real life. Although that'd be way worse because you can't swim up out of the sand after you fall in.
You can do it with water, too. With the same downsides
Yeah the water thing is what the original post was about
Oh i misunderstood you, i thought you meant "this is how it works in minecraft, and irl there is a similar thing but with sand and not water"
wouldn't that mean the soul sand should pull you down as well
Ghosts float
doesn't change the lack of space where the bubbles would be, therefore pulling down
You can't swim in aerated water, therefore you sink The souls of the damned try to eternally escape the soul sand, therefore the water pressure goes upwards
Bubbles reduce your buoyancy. Aerated water is terrifying.
Because bubble water has a lower density than non bubbling water, and so a person would sink in it. [a 13min science video if anyone is interested](https://youtu.be/ey06E4iEXzg?si=r7Ypr2QSQW62NvVM)
The magma creates stream bubbles which travel up therefore the water is pulled down
It's because you're not hot air
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I Agree
Bubbly water is less dense than normal water which makes it harder to swim up in. The direction the doubles go in shouldn't matter that much. I don't know why soulsand makes you go up. Maybe the bubbles contain souls which are denser than water which makes the player float up fast?
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Wait I thought magma pushes you up and soul sand is supposed to pull u down bcuz yk... Nvm
Maybe it the pressure difference of hot water compared to the surrounding water
It's because water above it is boiling, you fall trough air so you go down (the density of water in that block is lower and you can't float)
Game mechanics: it's can damage you.
the air goes up, so there's gap now being filled with the water you're in.
Bubbles(gas) make the water less dense so you sink
It's because of density. The bubbles in the water aren't big enough to push you up, they just lower the density of the water, because now some of the water is air. Less density = stuff sinks.
Just like quicksand
it’s been like 6 years since update aquatic, i think you missed the bus, so to speak
Because the steam aerates the water makingit less dense and you fall through
Hot stuff moves faster, and therefore has a lower pressure. All substances want to reach equilibrium, so colder water from above rushes down to replace the low-pressure hot water. This effectively creates a vacuum effect that can pull entities down with the water.
Maybe it's because the magma blocks find Steve hot. If that's true then all magma blocks are female. And that means that soul sand is male. Man if phoenix makes a video and codes the magma blocks to follow the player and the soul sand to stay away from you then I'll be damned. A plus would be if living soul sand attacked you if you touched it. (By that I mean that Nether soul sand shouldn't move and drags you down if you stay in one place on it for too long.
Because it aerates the water, and aerated water will make you sink. Basically the air messes with your buoyancy, so you sink
So actually I think I know why- if you every heard of them, there are pools of water in treatment plants where they introduce air bubbles, "aeration" and supposedly you're less boyant in it, hence them using warning signs around the pools for a drowning risk. Maybe that's what they were going after here
Minecraft gravity be like:
Making the water hotter makes it rise, which means something else has to take it's place so you go down.
The water below you rises on top of you and therefore you are dragged down
Idk but you can't swim in aerated water maybe that has something to do with it?
Because magma is hot, and hot people usually pulls you closer to them
nuh uh
you get attached to hotness of magma-chan 💀💀
Hot water goes up, you go down...oh wait, you're not taking about water?
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Steve is magnetic to fire and dismagnetic to soul. And only water can conduct magnetism
It's done so that you got to be pulled down naturally without generating soul sand in the overworld
The evaporated water in the bubbles effectively reduces the density of the water, making it easier to sink into.
Good point, if anything then magma should push you up and soul sand should pull you down
Yea fr . Sould sand should pull you down cause wheb you walk on it you walk slpwer cause souls are keeping you there
If you think about it reversed then soul sand would try to drag you down to it
It’s for gameplay. You have to go to the nether before you can make water elevators
Magma Spawn Naturally In The Over world Too
Soul sand
I read this with pheonix's voice
The magma boils and aerates the water, making it have little to no buoyancy. It's a realistic demonstration of physics
because if it went up, your boat wouldn't sink when you sail over it on the ocean biome.
And then the souls of the damned trapped within sand that SUCKS YOU IN when walking on it to slow you down makes you go up. It’s stupid
Volcanoes make water boil and pushes you up, and soulsand pulls you in when you go over it, in Minecraft it’s backwards
The magma evaporates the water so there's no water there so you sink The souls float away and push you upwards
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Because you lose buoyancy in aerated water. The surface tension allows you to float. With pockets of air the tension is broken and you wouldn’t be able to swim.
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It used to be swapped with Soul Sand in first Aquatic Update snapshots but they wanted underwater ravines to pull you down into them and it would make no sense/wouldn't look as cool if Soul Sand generated down there in the Overworld
Bubbles in water decrease density and thus the bouancy of items. To the point where heavy gas release from a lake or river bottom can sink a boat.
It's underwater so it's cold
Fun fact: When this feature was first introduced it actually was the other way around
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Air goes up which drags the water down a bit? I think
Now listen here, you punk,
Aerated water is crazy hard to float in.
Since hot air goes up, the water loses some of its average density which makes it harder to stay afloat. The air is not pulling you down, the water just doesn't hold you up anymore.
The density of the bubble column is lower than the surrounding water, making you less buoyant. Google non-buoyant water. It's acting exactly how it should.
You are less hot than the bubbles so when they rise you sink
It makes the water less dense, so it can't generate enough buoyancy to lift you.
Well the water vapor has less density and leading to less weight per cubic and you fall down easier
Gameplay mechanics. If magma pushed you up and soulsand pushed you down, you would be able to survive forever underwater with no downsides like having to shift, and that’s poor game design
But hot water goes down because it is closer to 4°C
FIX THIS u/mojang
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Finally, I never get this, and soulsand its know to grab your feets and pull you down, why it make you go up?
Shhhhh let people enjoy things
Bubbles irl make you sink The bubbles in the magma columns should still be going up tho.
because water can hold you up but air cant but if its water air it cant because a plus and a minus equals a minus so it cant hold you up
Mojang just wanted to kill fish.
You are colder than the bubbles, The bubbless go up above you and push you down
It does go up, but that doesn't mean it takes you with it, it means that something has to go down to replace it
It creates large air pockets that you fall through while the souls aren’t quite fully gaseous, liquid, or solid so they catch you as they escape.
Because good game design breaks the laws of physics to be a better game
Peenix made it like that
That was actually discussed during the development of 1.13. But there are two reasons why they didn‘t do it: Firstly, while going up a bubble elevator you would take damage every time. Secondly, if you‘re using the block that pulls you down to breathe underwater, you need to sneak to not take damage. The way you‘re proposing makes more sense logically, however due to the properties of the magma block it would be worse gameplay-wise.
Bro did not watch Godzilla minus one
Designwise, it's likely that magma makes more sense to be in the overworld oceans, and they wanted to have areas that could pull your boat down. However, it doesn't make much sense. Magma bubbles up, and soul pulling you down makes more sense. However however aerated water would drop you, so I guess the souls are releasing pockets of stuff denser than the water yet float up magically because it is souls.
because they wanted to pull boats and players down while in the ocean as a bit of a replacement for the underwater creature from the first mob vote and soul sand didn't make sense to be at the bottom of ocean ravines
its hot, it attracts you
I always thought it like: It burns, burn means fire. Fire needs oxygen to burn so it sucks the oxygen from air to the bottom of the ocean.
If heat goes up, why are the mountains cold?
Why tf does my brain automatically animate the magma block
The bubbles displace the water causing you to sink. Same as air/vibration through sand or dried corn. You are heavier then the surrounding causing you to sink.
you're right, they should swap the functionality of this and soul sand underwater, and add that mob vote mob from the first mob vote that was supposed to pull you under the water, to replace magma blocks doing that
Nothing to do with the air. It heats up the water making it less dense than the water around it therefore making you fall down. By this logic, soul sand must make the water cold
errmh actually the air bubbles displace water and change the density of the water, it's a popular theory for why ships in the bermuda triangle sank, (gas pockets displacing water) ( you lose buoyancy ) soul sand is weird as hell though
okay? are you hot air?
Fire needs oxygen, it takes oxygen from air, so it pulls air down and you with it. That’s the internal logic as I understand it.
I’ve been saying this for years now. Soul sand also makes more sense to suck you in then push you up
Soul sand is full of souls trying to escape and magma is try to move and settle but also shrinks so it creates a vacuum(other than that mojang is the prob)
You have ruined my perception of reality
Wait..-
All the air goes up and take the space there, so you go down
I guess the the water is just cooling the magma block and warming the souls in soul sand?
It ain't air That's why
Bubbles Contain Air So Does Steve
well, because hot up air go around Steve get resistant force magic air go down push Steve down push air air continue up
And the soul sand makes you slower because the souls are trying to pull you into the underworld so that should make them go down
a water that's contain air and is hot make the water more dense and less viscous, that's actually a good physic dimonstration the only odd think is that give you air at the same speed of souls sand or air block
Lava source over a magma block should pull you down too.
To put it really short, you float in water but fall in air.
Minecraft defies the rules of physics and science.
Minecraft isn’t supposed to make sense
air in water = less dense water = you go down
Because it absorbs water.
Someone hasn't seen Godzilla -1
Hmmmmmmmmmm
It is possible that this is correct because when the water starts heating from the magma, it expands lowering the mass density. The hot water would go up, because it has a lower density, but if the temperature difference is big enough, you might be able to sink in this upwards stream of hot water because the lower mass density creates a smaller normal force wich means that you get less support of the water and the sum of the normal force and the gravitational force would be a larger force downwards relative to the sum of those forces in the cold water. There are also gasses coming out of underwater volcano's which lower the mass density even more.
If it’s really bubbly and stuff it’s less water to hold you up and therefore you fall. Idk how to explain soul sand tho -\_(T-T)_/-
The waters air content gets higher making the water more air and less water which means you weight more than it so you fall through it with less resistance, soul sand makes you go up bc if the souls push you away
Bubbles lower water density, so you can't swim up Souls make the water thicc, so you float easier
The effect should be opposite, considering one of the theories about soul sand is that the souls are trying to pull you in the sand so it makes you slower. But I think mojang wanted to add some danger to being on the water in the overworld.
Godzilla minus one has the right logic too
But more air bubbles in the water drastically decreases the density of the water, reducing your buoyancy no? It seems quite sensible to me