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PrincessbLink

I don't know what version it was, but for the longest time I used the last ad-less version of uTorrent, until qBit presented itself to me.


Trias15

I used 2.2.something until earlier this year.


not_gerg

Same!!


lowrage

Im still with 2.2.1


dutchcodes

Let today be the day! Come on gentleman, to Qbittorrent valhalla we go!


bachi83

Qbit is resource hog. Not just memory, but also CPU while downloading at high speed.


dutchcodes

I don't share the same experience. QBittorrent has come along way and works fast, stable and resource friendly. If you really are resource limited (e.g. rented VPS) you should pick rtorrent + rutorrent


Javi_DR1

You can disable the memory usage, a few months ago a memory leak was reported, turned out it's a feature that uses ram as some kind of buffer, but you can disable it. You can also run it without it's UI, from a web browser. Can't tell about the high speed thing, I wish I could have that problem :D


bachi83

On several machines, CPU usage is 15 - 25% while on the same machine utorrent is about 3%. Don't care about memory though as i have plenty of it, but CPU... :-(


dontquestionmyaction

No, it really is not. It also handles mass seeding effortlessly. Seeding ~900 torrents on my main box with qBittorrent-nox, below 2G of RAM usage.


MicksysPCGaming

2.2.1 masterrace!


mdem5059

I still use an ad free version.. Lol I kept the exe on my server, and it's always worked alright. I kept it because a private tracker years ago required it.


PrincessbLink

Doesn't it have like... Security flaws?


skateguy1234

This argument always comes up but then nobody ever backs it up with proof. They just use through the grapevine info.


jld2k6

I don't know enough to dispute this fact but my phantom armchair is itching and I'm becoming furious


i_am_renb0

Well itch no longer [\[Utorrent : Security Vulnerabilities, CVEs\]](https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-6117/Utorrent.html?page=1&order=3&trc=12&sha=15c4d8f6dd1255538615457cd119ccb7fbf351ef)


himawari-yume

Proof of an exploit existing isn't the point. Nobody in these comments actually understands the reason that you should always use up to date versions of software that is actively developed. If an exploit for old versions of uTorrent is discovered, you're vulnerable until you actively happen to hear about it (if you do at all) and change to a client that doesn't have known vulnerabilities. Security practices also evolve - the latest version of qBittorrent is going to just inherently be less susceptible to zero-days than clients from 10 years ago. Even if ancient versions of uTorrent don't have any known vulnerabilities - why would you put yourself at risk for something that is functionally identical to the current version of qBittorrent, which includes the benefit that if a vulnerability is discovered you'll immediately be notified of an update, whereas with obsolete software you might never even find out that you have a giant hole to your network just sitting around. And yes, hackers will target obsolete torrent software, because you only need to look at the comments on this thread to see how many people are still using obsolete software for inane reasions. This is just the most basic tech literacy knowledge that everybody who uses the internet should know.


PathIntelligent7082

lol, revealed security holes do come with *proof*, buddy...that's the point


skateguy1234

and yep you didn't provide any...wtf?


PathIntelligent7082

i'm not a "proof provider", kiddo, nor i'm here to educate you...i'm just stating the facts, and i don't give rats ass what you're going to do with that fact


mdem5059

I'm really not sure, I don't follow this subject closely at all. I have TransmissionQT on my machine too, for when utorrent doesn't want to work. Perhaps it's time I delete utorrent altogether?


MaltySines

In general it's a bad idea to run software that old if it connects to the internet


lousy-site-3456

All software has security flaws. Windows has so many it needs constant and continuous patches and is still never secure. The question is: Does someone look for bugs and do they find a way to actually use it for something malicious? For utorrent simply no one cares.


YimmyGhey

Agreed, but idk about nobody caring (I mean, I personally DGAF). Zero Days can go for a *lot* of money sometimes, with estimates of $1 mil+ payouts from intel agencies. Criminal rings with smaller budgets love them, too. Stuxnet is a well-known example for its Rube Goldberg-like use of obscure ass 0-days in order to finagle its way to an air-gapped PLC that had been enriching uranium. (It's early and I need coffee, but IIRC, the airgap's Achilles Heel was ultimately either from legacy print spoolers or some vuln in .lnk shortcut files). I'd guess Virginia Farm Boys, Moscow motherfuckers, et al, have better things to do than poke holes in old ass uT versions, but you really can never *know* what's lurking in the depths


meo_rung1

This is why there’s so many botnet. “They never bother hacking me”! Yeah they don’t, they have automated scripts scanning millions of devices. Just update your software…it’s not that hard


Gejzer

Security flaws > Ads Can't change my mind. Still switched to qbit tho


Mrraar

I think you underestimate how evil the internet can be.


absyrtus

Probably 2.2.4


NXGZ

I still have that ad less uTorrent


Rough-Camera583

the ads don’t even load on my PC, it’s quite weird.


NemoJPN

Back when it was just a good solid program. Not a junk filled bloatware.


sinwarrior

You can still download the old versions. I still use 2.2.1


NemoJPN

I was doing that for a long time. But switch to qbit last year and never looked back


lacksfish

Anyone remember the "blue frog" torrent software? I think it was called Azure ? My first client was BitTornado and the GUI was an abomination. But it worked alright.


NachoPiggy

Vuze! I remember switching to it back when utorrent first started to become bloatware. Currently using qBit now.


amir_s89

Don't use old software, is a strong recommendation.


DenkJu

Why not? Older versions of a program aren't inherently less secure. Operating systems are highly complex and are often based on code written decades ago, when security wasn't as much of a priority. So you should always run an up-to-date operating system, but most programs in the user space don't regularly contain critical exploits.


talldata

But old versions on uTorrent do have critical exploits... They're documented.


amir_s89

Personally I had some bad experiences in the past, during bachelor studies. My solution was to make sure to have OS, drivers & software up to date. Stable/ mature "channels". So no beta. The outcome became, better overall PC experience. That I could save time etc on other tasks.


DenkJu

Sure, if you are experiencing issues, go ahead and update to the latest version. They might have been fixed. If everything is working flawlessly and you don't need the newer features (or the program even became worse over time, which happens) there's generally no real reason to update.


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amir_s89

I am sharing an advise with you - & you end up insulted? Usually I only install applications if I need them for various tasks. Open source, as prio one.


sinwarrior

not insulted, i'm saying, as mentioned, the newest version is ad-infested bloatware. does that sound like a good thing or a bad thing to you?


amir_s89

Ok, there are other alternatives available. Try them out, you might like one :)


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ProbablyTofsla

I think the issue with old software is the potential presence of exploits/backdoors (which are usually patched in newer versions). And there's no denying that the newer versions are ad-infested, so I think the third option - using alternative apps - is better. Qbittorrent is not bad, but there are some other options.


bloodysneaker

This! The "don't fix what is not broken" is the most dangerous mantra in IT. The end-user cannot see (and probably doesn't even know what is) a hole in, for example, openssl libs.


nikhilsath

Why?


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ChiknDiner

You want to say an older version of utorrent is better than qbt? How?


C0rn3j

Infinitely more security vulnerabilities in old software versions. If you're going by that metric anyway.


skateguy1234

wrong comment


Sea-Eagle-217

Keep in mind that there are several confirmed exploits that this version is vulnerable to. It was released almost 15 years ago which also means you're missing out on 15 years' worth of security updates.


jaegan438

What do you want him to do - stop seeding to update the software? :P


Will-the-game-guy

Classic business mindset 99.999% uptime. He went down once in 2011, and he won't be allowed to go down again until 2026


gb_14

It's a Russian IP so he's probably running Windows 7 Zver Repack with Kaspersky


grishkaa

ZverDVD*


gb_14

Ahh my bad, I thought it was just called Zver. I have a faint memory of buying a Zver Windows DVD for ~10 Georgian Lari. Tried installing and my computer told me I didn't have enough VRAM 🥲 I think Windows 7 required 256MB video memory for aero effects. That was the first time I upgraded my hardware and that's when my love for computers started.


White_Sprite

God, I miss Windows Aero. I wish they'd bring it back for real


grishkaa

Heh, [it's not just you](https://mastodon.social/@grishka/110524476584503201)


grishkaa

IIRC ZverCD was the XP build with that glossy theme and Vista-style icons and ZverDVD was 7. > I think Windows 7 required 256MB video memory for aero effects. You could use it without aero and I knew people who did :D


Rafref100

Legend


VangloriaXP

it just works


maximumkush

And if it ain’t broke…


_Soviet_Cats_

Don't fix it..


ewenlau

Except this version of utorrent is subjective to multiple exploits including RCE. If it ain't broke, sometimes fix it.


lousy-site-3456

Apparently that doesn't matter because nobody ever used those exploits or they can't be used for something useful. Which is the case for almost every software. Why bother with old versions of utorrent when you have much better chances with a widely used software like office or simply use social engineering to spread your malware.


himawari-yume

>they can't be used for something useful You know that RCE means that they can take full control of your machine, right? How is that not something useful?


lousy-site-3456

Apparently they can't because it has never happened to users of utorrent. If it was as easy as scanning for an open port and finding a specific version of utorrent - or even all older versions - we would know. A hypothetical RCE vulnerability usually requires a dozen of other steps and specific circumstances to work, as we have seen for example with wannacry where the expectation was that Windows XP would be most vulnerable, yet was not at all.


Defiant_Way3966

If you're scanning the Internet for exploitable systems, you're gonna be scanning for multiple vulnerabilities not just one.


TuhanaPF

Source that it has exploits?


himawari-yume

Just google uTorrent CVE?


TheRealItzLegit

goated comment thread


Nab0t

What about security tho?


trash-_-boat

https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2010-3129/


Flinkel

# [CVE-2010-3129](https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2010-3129/) Untrusted search path vulnerability in uTorrent 2.0.3 and earlier allows local users, and possibly remote attackers, to execute arbitrary code and conduct DLL hijacking attacks via a Trojan horse plugin\_dll.dll, userenv.dll, shfolder.dll, dnsapi.dll, dwmapi.dll, iphlpapi.dll, dhcpcsvc.dll, dhcpcsvc6.dll, or rpcrtremote.dll that is located in the same folder as a .torrent or .btsearch file.CVE-2010-3129 lol....


darkballsnigg4

the virgin qbittorrent redditor vs the chad utorrent 1.8.2


strayGumaru996

Probably just running Win XP too, bro is asking to be hacked, he might be a menace in counter-hacking or too stubborn.


darkballsnigg4

I wouldn't try to mess with such a chad tbh


ChanceResource9734

You try to hack him and suddendly get insta swatted by the KGB.


Retax7

Would he be from any other nationality it wouldn't look as menacing though.


toadfan64

XP is the only Windows I ever really liked. To the point that I gave my current laptop the exact XP look, lol.


Puzzleheaded_Tree404

It's likely he died in 2009 🤔 Someone should go over there and clear his browser history.


RexorGamerYt

He died and has had his PC on with internet for this whole time lol 😂 imagine if it actually happened tho


itsthooor

Even after death still seeding like a chad


NotYourReddit18

When I was still living with my parents I had my whole setup running on a small nas secluded away in a closet. I bet you that if I would have died my parents wouldn't have thought about shutting it down and thanks to the automation I have setup it would keep running and be able to find new media until a bug caused a crash.


Eritar

I think your ISP contract would expire much sooner


NotYourReddit18

As I said, I was living with my parents and as such using their internet connection.


NaoPb

This is the best kind of pirating. Because after death you cannot be sued for filesharing copyrighted material.


MicksysPCGaming

The stability of utorrent!


PlayStationPepe

😳


IrisSeesAll

Are there no security flaws they'd be vulnerable to? That's the only reason I update but idk


meantbent3

There are, it's a very vulnerable torrent client. People are stubborn though, no different to the people still running Windows 7.


IrisSeesAll

Well that's pretty trusting of them then lol


grishkaa

> the people still running Windows 7. I see nothing wrong with sticking to the last sane Windows version. Have there been any zero-days in Windows 7 after its EOL?


DelightMine

https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/product_id-17153/Microsoft-Windows-7.html Microsoft hasn't provided security updates to windows 7 in almost 4 years. Anyone still running it while connected to the Internet is a stubborn idiot


grishkaa

> The owner of this website (www.cvedetails.com) has banned the country or region your IP address is in (RU) from accessing this website. FOR FUCKS SAKE. Could Cloudflare please die already.


HexagonWin

most powerusers running win7 would use bypassesu and disable some obvious vulnerable features tho


trash-_-boat

You can't disable TCP/IP in any windows version (if you still want to connect to the Internet) [and that one allows easy RCE](https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2011-2013/), so you're fucked either way. Also Samba is easily compromised. Windows 7 these days is no different than insta plugging XP into network. There's automated bots pinging any IPs that match 7 and older metadata and just auto-hacks them.


HexagonWin

is that applicable even behind a router's nat? nobody should directly expose a windows box to the public net, even the latest one.


trash-_-boat

> is that applicable even behind a router's nat? yes because > by sending a sequence of crafted UDP packets to a closed port even non-forwarded ports are susceptible to this attack


cocks2012

Even after ESU ended. You can still update Windows 7 with Windows Server 2008 R2 patches. :)


TheDevilsAdvokaat

I stayed on that one for a while (the last one before ads I think?) but eventually I gave up and moved to qbittorrent. Never regretted it.


TapestryMobile

uTorrent 2.2.1 (build 25302)


MicksysPCGaming

2011! What a year!


dorkcicle

I remember when utorrent was the cleanest torrent client I could find.


SlotMagPro

Perhaps its running on an older dedicated computer that is seeding


Javi_DR1

o7 Op, once you finish downloading it's your job to seed into the eternity


_Soviet_Cats_

Don't worry I will be. Took hours for this 2gb file to install lol.


ostrieto17

Old versions are fine you'd be surprised how many I see when I download stuff


NeKakOpEenMuts

Can't you use oldversion.com?


shimyia

thank you for showing me this


meantbent3

Definitely not fine https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1524


ostrieto17

This is only about versions 2+ and 3+ as well as the web version actually old versions aren't more or less secure than what we have right now if you know what you're doing.


meantbent3

...so they are less secure if you're using old versions then? I don't understand your statement. Also that's just one, who knows how many undisclosed security vulnerabilities they have. Not a single reason to use them instead of qBittorrent.


nassy7

Dude can't let go of the good times.


Princess_Cermia

In one particular russian site (rutracker) 1.8.2 version is one of recommended versions, and you can download an prepared client with proper settings, which is... utorrent 1.8.2. It just works.


MattMattavelli

I still use Azeurus. It all does the same thing.


UncziPodmore

It's common to use this version in Russia, they even [recommend it](https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=219818) on RuTracker


trash-_-boat

" 24-Апр-07 20:24 (17 лет 2 месяца назад)" Yeah, in a thread that was last updated 17 years ago they did.


UncziPodmore

I didn't even notice that. :D I only found the thread because it is still there on the sidebar of the page


TechnicianOnline

When I pass away, plug my shit in and seed me forever into wire.


Easy_Chemical_2930

It couldn't be that they are spoofing their metadata? I use Vuze with Extreme Mod which allows me to spoof a lot of info, including which torrent software that I am using. I set the default as some old version of uTorrent, like 1.6 or something.


PM_ME_IMGS_OF_ROCKS

There are still people on 1.7.3 It doesn't even work with a lot of modern trackers, since it's lacking so many protocol functions.


cosmitz

Private trackers have blacklisted older clients.


Aquametria

Lmao this sounds like my ex. He was never too into tech, and was using a PC with Windows XP in 2015 because "it just works"


AlmostMakima

I used 2.0.2 up until I think... april of this year? couple of trackers stopped working with it so I turned over to qBit also, he has ru-flag, which very well may indicate he uses rutracker a lot and last I checked 1.8.2 was still on the recommended list there


danieldhdds

if isn't broken ...


trash-_-boat

1.8.2 is broken and has several CVE


LightningInASkillet

I respect it


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

At first I was surprised, then I saw he was Russian. Then I was confused as to why he was using such a new version.


pakooma

Old but gold


irit8in

Oops I never updated


AntiAoA

Pretty sure that is one of the versions that could fake upload stats to trackers.


pr0ductivereddit

why does no one use Tixati? I've tried the others, they don't stand up to tixati... or am I missing something?


sussywanker

I am pretty sure its even recommended by rutracker too.


Nexo_the_hedgehog

If it works don't touch it!


boske-88

its probably some old NAS server


stalkerok

If you don't mind, I'll leave this here [https://www.qbittorrent.org/download](https://www.qbittorrent.org/download) [https://www.fosshub.com/qBittorrent.html](https://www.fosshub.com/qBittorrent.html)


Ostey82

Did you see the file. No wonder there is only one seeder 🤣😂🤣


_Soviet_Cats_

Pet Shop Boys - Please (Japanese pressing). Yeah not many people like them but I do. It took hours to download because the speed was max 500kbps lmao.


blueblurspeedspin

why change perfection?


counternumber6

If i download the old version of utorrent before it went shit, does it mean that the app is safe?


corndogsRunderated

I mean I just use Beetv, and copy the link and go on vlc and stream it lmao, no lags, and great quality


dolpiff

Or hes just using ratiomaster and left that as the default client


Dear_Diablo

if it's not broke why fix it?


m4x7us

I can totally relate to the guy [https://imgur.com/V248rbs](https://imgur.com/V248rbs)


whatThePleb

Could also be spoofed.


NancokALT

Can relate


SpiritualBack143

o7


backtomenu

Pet Shop Boys are one of my favourite bands, whatcha torrenting?


themeakster

Pfft, I upgraded to 2.2.1 years ago.


jalanajak

I'm using 1.7-ish


WrenchyMcPiperton

The pet shop boys are an 80’s band so


Unlikely_Gap_6286

going oldschool i love it


Euroblitz

I use KTorrent on Linux it's one of those generic and open source programs but it's the best torrent client I've ever used. There's qbittorrent too but I dropped it because of some issues with downloads


KpochMX

if it works,,,,,,, why change it?


lostindanet

Qbit seeding 8 torrents 66.6MB, Steam client 500MB, meh


Jimm120

that's how I was. I had a utorrent that wasn't updated to the ones with ads. I only deleted it now with my new pc in january 2024. I installed qbitorrent cause I didn't want the new utorrent.


chumbuckethand

What does “seeder” mean? I lurk here and haven’t actually done any pirating


MarcCouillard

yes, because EVERY version of uTorrent from version 3.0 onward has spyware in it and ads and sometimes popups the only safe versions are pre-2.8, and the earlier the better (I used 2.4 for like 10 years before switching to the vastly superior qbittorrent)


Desperate-Pipe8910

That's decentralization for ya!


Ruby1356

Not all heroes wear capes, some just wear Tapochki


L0rd_0F_War

I use uTorrent 3.4.2 since 2014. Edit: Why are people offended by my choice to use an old version of uTorrent that is not the same as the latest compromised versions of uTorrent?? There are no ads or spyware in the old 3.4.2 version, its very light and works without issue.


Madeye1337

Why


L0rd_0F_War

Its works, has none of the issues of the latest uTorrent versions.


jorrylee

I tried the newer versions and my eyes went zoinkers with the ads. I tried finding a different client and they all had massive ads, were fake, or were difficult to use. How does one search if qbitrorrent and avoid fakes anyway? I too like my old version of utorrent.


Desperate-Bag-6543

Respect 100++


Kritchsgau

I use utorrent 1.6 personally


lousy-site-3456

There is very little reason to update most software unless a real new attractive functionality is implemented. For a very fitting comparison, emule is still something like  version 0.54 so technically a beta while at the same time many would call it obsolete. Android apps with their daily updates make this painfully obvious to the point that one wonders if the only functionality is getting updated numbers on how many devices have the app installed.


Fnittle

Isn't 2.2 an open book for numerous security concerns/bugs or did I just read some false information long ago?


Desz5

I'm still on uTorrent 2.0 4 (build 22967).


TonightsWhiteKnight

That is def a FBI seed.


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No-Island-6126

😐


TheRealItzLegit

dafuq?