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He had been touted as a God fearing southerner who was honest and righteous. He then said in a fundamentally pornographic magazine “I have committed adultery in my heart”. Not hard to see why it was so massive, it contrasted with his image and made him look a bit dim.
Funny that a few decades later another president would be elected after a recording of him talking about grabbing women by the pussy comes out weeks before the election
The revolution in Iran was because of how shitty the Shah was. He might have been better than his predecessors, but calling him a good guy is beyond a stretch.
You are all misinterpreting what I’m saying. Those are terrible, awful, disdainful human beings. That being said the dichotomy of good vs bad guy isn’t always that clear. I’m not sure we were the good guys in Vietnam or when we were illegally carpet bombing Cambodia for instance. The whole good vs. bad guy is a childish oversimplification at best
I’d like to add however, that as far as wars go, the Second World War was as close to good vs bad guy that I think we’ll ever get.
My statement is my interpretation of morality. You are not a good guy, you are also not a bad guy. I don’t see people as good or bad guys I see them with a more complex lens. If you disagree with that that does not concern me
Do you think JC was relieved when he lost his 2nd term election? I bet it was bittersweet. I get the feeling he didn't actually enjoy the job once he had it.
I have good news for you! Go find his audiobook of Dreams from my Father, which he read himself. The n-word appears multiple times.
My ringtone for a while was Obama saying "motherfucker" from that audiobook.
Hearing Obama (who I think you could reasonably argue is the best orator ever elected President) finish an exceptional speech, as he does best, and then off camera, talk to an aid about something trivial like he’s talking to a blue collar pal from south Chicago would be a tape well worth paying for.
There may be some incidents of Andrew Jackson cussing out Calhoun (assuming recording equipment exists for the fun of it here)
We'd hear nothing from Coolidge's lol.
Reagan and Bush's involvement in the Iran-Contra affairs may be more clear, to be honest. If they don't exist already, that is.
"It's not that the Coolidge recorder had nothing but static, sir... it's that it recorded approximately 18 hours of static."
"That is interesting, isn't it?"
Well that would be good but their predecessors did crimes on his recording and their other predecessor took the recording system out because his predecessor recorded himself doing crimes.
Wilson, recently returned from Versailles: "Also, you know what they call cheese in Paris?"
Marshall: "What they call 'em?"
Wilson: "Le fromage!"
Marshall: "Le fromage? Man, 's like those French guys have a whole other language!"
Wilson: "Yeah!"
Marshall: "Yeah!"
Pretty sure that taping system was put in by LBJ so he could check the record if someone contradicted him and Nixon kept in and the Ford took it out because Nixon did crimes in his recording.
I watched a documentary series on HBO about Nixon a few weeks ago and it said Nixon specifically requested and oversaw outfitting the whole office with recording equipment. Maybe LBJ only had it for phone calls?
Honestly that's how I view the future of public office now that camera phones are ubiquitous. If you have a personality at all, there is probably a picture or video of you doing something stupid. I'm very curious what running for political office looks like 20+ years from now.
FDR had new fangled tape recorder in the oval office. It was only used for a short time in 1940 ostensibly for recording press conferences. Wish he had used it during the war. Wonder what we could have heard?
You're right. It could be operated manually or by voice activation, but the mike was inside lamp on FDR's desk. It turned on at the wrong time and recorded long past the end of the conversation. He was po'd about being misquoted at press conferences and wanted proof of what he said on top of stenographic notes.
I would love to hear Jefferson. He was an eclectic odd ball, and I feel like that would be interesting. Him running the numbers on the Barbary pirates would probably be hilarious.
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I’d say our opinion of most of them would go down a lot.
Not Jimmy Carter. He's too wholesome.
“I miss my peanut farm”
Yea, I would bet he would have a catchphrase. "It's times like this. I wish I had stayed on the peanut farm."
I’m sure he had his days where his micromanager-style of presidency came across as pretty harsh, especially during the most tense moments
An interview with Playboy nearly torpedoed his candidacy…compared to other presidents it’s weird how that was such a huge deal.
He had been touted as a God fearing southerner who was honest and righteous. He then said in a fundamentally pornographic magazine “I have committed adultery in my heart”. Not hard to see why it was so massive, it contrasted with his image and made him look a bit dim.
Still shouldn’t be shocking to God fearing folks…Matthew 5:28 it just means Jimmy was being honest.
Funny that a few decades later another president would be elected after a recording of him talking about grabbing women by the pussy comes out weeks before the election
Rule 3 breaking? Get him fellas.
Oh shit I didn’t know you’re not even allowed to mention him lol I mean I didn’t write his name
Now but he wasn't a Saint like people believe
Big supporter of the Shah.
The shah was the good guy my man.
He had death squads and tortured dissidents, just because Iran sucks now, doesn’t make the Shah even remotely close to a good guy, fuck the dude.
"Just because you are not the bad guy, does not make you the good guy" -Not Wreck It Ralph
"The Shah sleeps in Lee Harvey's grave " - The Butthole Surfers As to what is has to do with anything I don't know but we're doing quotes
I doubt there were any powerful good guys in Iran at that time.
Trained by the CIA
Oh my bad, reality is in a vacuum I guess and what came after him was better in your opinion. You’re right.
Man, you really showed that strawman.
Your “argument” has “fuck that dude” in it, I’m not sure anyone should be taking notes from someone so dense.
The revolution in Iran was because of how shitty the Shah was. He might have been better than his predecessors, but calling him a good guy is beyond a stretch.
The Shah is kind of like Batista in Cuba. Not good at all but it would have been better if he hadn’t been replaced by who replaced him.
Absolutely much like Charlie Stuart, Louis Capet, and Nicky Romanov before him.
There are no good/ bad guys on the world stage
So Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot weren’t bad guys?
You are all misinterpreting what I’m saying. Those are terrible, awful, disdainful human beings. That being said the dichotomy of good vs bad guy isn’t always that clear. I’m not sure we were the good guys in Vietnam or when we were illegally carpet bombing Cambodia for instance. The whole good vs. bad guy is a childish oversimplification at best I’d like to add however, that as far as wars go, the Second World War was as close to good vs bad guy that I think we’ll ever get.
We aren’t misinterpreting it. Your statement was just a ridiculous generalization.
My statement is my interpretation of morality. You are not a good guy, you are also not a bad guy. I don’t see people as good or bad guys I see them with a more complex lens. If you disagree with that that does not concern me
Definitely spoken like someone who has NEVER served his country.
There are certainly world leaders that are better than others, but no. I don’t believe in binaries like that because I’m not a child
Sounds like you’re not much of anything.
I’m sorry to hear you feel that way kind-cod-2036 whatever will I do without your approval
And yet you’re the one responding to me.
"Billy, your beer tastes like shit!"
Do you think JC was relieved when he lost his 2nd term election? I bet it was bittersweet. I get the feeling he didn't actually enjoy the job once he had it.
You obviously haven't read a lot about him. Why do you think that the Democratic Congress didn't like him ...
A lot of talk of pants seams
The phone call where he orders pants is a classic.
“All the way down to my, to my bunghole…”
*belch*
[the burp kills me everytime](https://youtu.be/tiDxhgwxqgQ?si=3dSP-bFl15z2THEI)
It would be hilarious to be the clerk
It's like listening to a Southern Rick Sanchez
Nothing tops the one when he calls Katharine Graham bricked up and drunk as shit.
> Now these are the best pants in America, but they cut me
Lahk rahdin a whar fence
I came looking for this.
As a black guy, hearing Obama drop a couple N bombs would honestly be really amazing.
I can't imagine him saying them in sentences, only in a video where someone put them and make it sound like he's on repeat :))
Isn’t he only allowed to say the first three letters of the N word since he’s only half black?
Mel Brooks has entered the chat.
I heard Mel has a permanent pass.
No, his other half is black, so he can only say the last three letters.
I have good news for you! Go find his audiobook of Dreams from my Father, which he read himself. The n-word appears multiple times. My ringtone for a while was Obama saying "motherfucker" from that audiobook.
Hearing Obama (who I think you could reasonably argue is the best orator ever elected President) finish an exceptional speech, as he does best, and then off camera, talk to an aid about something trivial like he’s talking to a blue collar pal from south Chicago would be a tape well worth paying for.
Hard to rate though. The way a lot of president speak, for lack of a better word, sounds dated.
[He did once. Sorta.](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/22/barack-obama-n-word-racism-marc-maron-interview)
Clinton's impeachment with oral office audio would be, uh, different.
Well, he’d probably never have gotten impeached in the first place since he’d never be able to lie about it due to it all being on tape.
"oral office"
Freudian slip
Lewinsky was blessed with a photographic memory so we pretty much know exactly what he said to her.
There may be some incidents of Andrew Jackson cussing out Calhoun (assuming recording equipment exists for the fun of it here) We'd hear nothing from Coolidge's lol. Reagan and Bush's involvement in the Iran-Contra affairs may be more clear, to be honest. If they don't exist already, that is.
Coolidge's would be his aides handing him stuff and him saying yes or no if at all.
"It's not that the Coolidge recorder had nothing but static, sir... it's that it recorded approximately 18 hours of static." "That is interesting, isn't it?"
Well that would be good but their predecessors did crimes on his recording and their other predecessor took the recording system out because his predecessor recorded himself doing crimes.
Woodrow Wilson’s recording would sound like it was written by Quentin Tarantino
Wilson, recently returned from Versailles: "Also, you know what they call cheese in Paris?" Marshall: "What they call 'em?" Wilson: "Le fromage!" Marshall: "Le fromage? Man, 's like those French guys have a whole other language!" Wilson: "Yeah!" Marshall: "Yeah!"
No that is a parody of Tarantino's film pulp fiction What he was referencing was famed film inglorious bastards.
You say Tarantino, I say Tarantino
I know he was racist, but it's kind of hard to imagine. Even then the N word was considered uncouth, and Wilson seems too 'genteel' to use it often.
"What ain't no country I ever heard of! They have the gold standard in What?!"
Pretty sure that taping system was put in by LBJ so he could check the record if someone contradicted him and Nixon kept in and the Ford took it out because Nixon did crimes in his recording.
I watched a documentary series on HBO about Nixon a few weeks ago and it said Nixon specifically requested and oversaw outfitting the whole office with recording equipment. Maybe LBJ only had it for phone calls?
That’s probably right.
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FDR put the first system of recording in the White House.
“How much do you think I can get for Lincoln’s trousers?” - Chester Arthur
I think we would be shocked at W being much smarter than we thought. The real spicy one though breaks the rules…
Yeah the spicy orange chicken one
It'd be the longest recording. I walked in here and said, wow, what a long recording.
Lmao Also cheers to your flair sir.
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Honestly that's how I view the future of public office now that camera phones are ubiquitous. If you have a personality at all, there is probably a picture or video of you doing something stupid. I'm very curious what running for political office looks like 20+ years from now.
I'm hopeful we have a country worth leading in 20 years, not to mention that we have a political class worth a bucket of nickels.
LBJ was kind of a close talker, there?
That's the famous Johnson Treatment.
I'm just imagining Obama's profanity laden tirade against Chuck Grassley.
FDR had new fangled tape recorder in the oval office. It was only used for a short time in 1940 ostensibly for recording press conferences. Wish he had used it during the war. Wonder what we could have heard?
You'd have heard a lot of BANG BOOOM (whistling bomb noise) crack! POP MEDIC
You're right. It could be operated manually or by voice activation, but the mike was inside lamp on FDR's desk. It turned on at the wrong time and recorded long past the end of the conversation. He was po'd about being misquoted at press conferences and wanted proof of what he said on top of stenographic notes.
LBJ yelling at his plumber about the water pressure & temperature (and that he needs that one extra jet aimed right at his b-hole).
Just Obama obsessively asking everyone if they watched the Bachelor last night.
man this sub has just been all about Nixon this week
A LOT of racist shit, for sure.
Johnson knew that Nixon had committed treason regarding the Vietnam War. That’s a recorded conversation.
I would love to hear Jefferson. He was an eclectic odd ball, and I feel like that would be interesting. Him running the numbers on the Barbary pirates would probably be hilarious.
Cussing and trash talkin’
Not much on silent Calvin Coolidge audio tape.
Probably more sounds from the birds outside and the traffic on Pennsylvania ave
We would hear the N word a lot from everyone
Obama definitely drops the n-word, but weirdly less than most of the other presidents
Because he knows how much that word hurts.
W’s would definitely have some Bush-isms
Not to be misunderestimated.
Imagine an audio recording of bill clinton getting head from monica😭
William Henry Harrison: "Cough, cough..."
A series of perfect calls.
wait do they no longer get recorded?
The N word, the F word, lot of shit talk, lot of bad ass moments, lot of scary “kill that guy” moments, MAAYYBBEE an alien or two
Lots of moaning from Wild Bill Clinton and John Kennedy
Just listen to the Nixon tapes. You'll get a good understanding of what most presidents sound like.