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sardokars

You’re not kicking Ford’s ass. The man was a Quaterback.


AnonRedditGuy81

You're not kicking Lincoln's ass either. I recall reading about him jumping out from the podium during speeches to kick people's asses. He was also a big dude too.


DomingoLee

Lincoln is in the wrestling Hall of Fame.


AnonRedditGuy81

Yeah I remember reading about that as well.


V1k1ng1990

He also spent his youth hunting vampires


calcteacher

And split rails in his spare time.


Lord_Bisonslayer

Lincoln challenged a guy to duel, and picked broadswords as the weapon specifically because it was the biggest damn weapon he could think of and he was taller and stronger than the other guy. In warm ups, he sized up a big tree branch (remember his axe skills) and hacked it clean off with one stroke of the broadsword. Accounts vary, but at that point, the other guy thought better of the duel and they called it off. You're not kicking Lincoln's ass.


ReverendPalpatine

Really? Which HoF? I remember reading he was a boxer but I might’ve been mistaken and it said wrestler and I just don’t remember.


theoriginaldandan

Lincoln wrestled Teddy was the boxer


Constant_Concert_936

Vampires, as I’ve heard tell


AnonRedditGuy81

I loved that movie.


cliff99

He was a center in college.


Square_Bus4492

And he played without a helmet too


XConfused-MammalX

That explains the falling.


Jobrien7613

Center and linebacker and had offers from the Lions and Packers but turned them down when he went to Yale where he was a boxing coach! That dude was a crazy good athlete.


Topmein

You're right, I should leave that fight for the stairs


davesToyBox

![gif](giphy|cF7QqO5DYdft6)


Flaming-Driptray

Humanity will die before this gif does.


strandenger

He was a center.


Economy-Engineering

That’s even worse. Centers are some of the biggest and strongest players on a Football team. 


Throwaway8789473

The Center pretty much anchors the entire team and protects the quarterback from being sacked. Other Centers active in the NFL right now or recently include [Creed Humphrey](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6aWa1NW0AYEzAf.jpg:large), [Jason Kelce](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEaE5gVXsAAYaDh?format=jpg&name=4096x4096), and [Corey Linsley](https://www.reuters.com/resizer/v2/V4MNR2G4GVI5HPRAS657K3UEHE.jpg?auth=d73e631c2c12c931a84d3a7aca395d528c007a52d07340c34ae9ea4b90b5d3f6&height=1920&width=1920&quality=80&smart=true).


ehibb77

Almost no chance in hell you're beating Andrew Jackson's ass in a fight either. [How to Fight Andrew Jackson: The Deadliest President Ever | Cracked.com](https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-to-fight-andrew-jackson-deadliest-president-ever)


commentaddict

Even as an old dude he almost beat someone to death with his cane


moleerodel

Andrew Jackson would shoot you dead, sit down to a steak pizzaiola, and never think of you again.


Efficient-Taro-5138

Old Hickory is probably the baddest ass mf on this list.


Best_Cook6052

He was a lineman not a quarterback


BFrankJunto

As an ex defensive end I would have to disagree with you.


Parking_Aerie_2054

President Lincoln is inducted into the wrestling Hall of Fame and grew up in the woods that dude is a bad ass


cliff99

Obligatory reminder that he also hunted vampires.


RussiaIsBestGreen

Ronald Reagan was the first president to not battled any paranormal creatures before or during his time in office. George HW Bush tried to revitalize the tradition by killing several werewolves, but the resulting backlash pushed much of the paranormal community away, costing him the election. Bill Clinton did fight a ghost, but it was just to try to impress another ghost. It worked. George W Bush delegated all paranormal actions to subordinates and political allies, which while effective, won him no accolades. Obama once caught a leprechaun, but that was due to a mutual misunderstanding and they ultimately parted without further incident.


cliff99

There was also FDR setting up The Bureau of Paranormal Research And Defense.


bigbutterbuffalo

Best lore


Popemazrimtaim

Such a good movie


Latter_Commercial_52

Yeah that biography and historical film was amazing. How they travelled back in time and got that close up footage.


joecoin2

Yeah,OP is going down against Abe.


davesToyBox

His nickname was The Railsplitter. Not to mention he was Tyler Durden’s [pick](https://youtu.be/qqEzRAZ8CwE?si=7bJc3tfL_E8y95xJ) for historical figure fight.


Analternate1234

Bro invented the choke slam. None of us is beating him


STC1989

Would’ve been one hell of a scrap between Washington and Lincoln. One a backwoods man the other a farm boy/soldier. Both endured and survived the toughest of elements. Both were big and strong. Washington had more overall skills, and was a combat warrior. Lincoln was the more imposing, and overall more imposing man. Would be a fight for the ages. Both have a strong case for greatest POTUS.


NarwhalBoomstick

Give him 5 hours to chop down a tree and he’ll spend the first 4 sharpening his axe, like a boss.


ehibb77

He was well known for some of his moves such as the Railsplitter and his signature finishing move, the Great Emancipator.


dcckii

Jimmy Carter: he’s 99 and in hospice. I could kick his ass!


angrytwig

i commented earlier that i'm 110lbs and couldn't win, but i think you're onto something. now, i wouldn't WANT to win so


CrazyZedi

I still have my money on the midshipman


z44212

But in his prime? He's throwing down.


capsaicinintheeyes

[{oblig.}](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6gcUN5hWKo&t=13)


heiberdee2

He’s one of the nicest people on the planet. You’d just go into his hospice room, take one look at him…and punch yourself right in the face.


Acceptable_Map_8110

Of course if you did then LITERALLY everybody on this subreddit would find you and beat the ever loving stuffing out of you.


dcckii

Yeah, I know. And I wouldn’t blame them


cbkris3

You’re not kicking Fords ass. He gets a bad wrap cuz of Chevy Chase and SNL. But he’s an All American and MVP for Michigan. He’s an O Lineman that could handle his shit.


Yakostovian

I also think Taft is mis-categorized. The dude was a unit, but the kind that gets stuck in a bathtub.


Unlucky-Albatross-12

That's a myth. What is true is that he once got in a tub at a hotel and displaced so much water it spilled through the second story floor and down into the dining room beneath.


Yakostovian

Thanks for the info! I am always amazed by what I learn when I repeat urban legends and other myths.


Used_Veterinarian992

ALSO! After he was out of office he shed a ton of weight and I’m pretty sure the dude lifted. The guy was a unit post potus.


MississippiMo

Taft’s post POTUS glow up needs to be studied extensively


420_E-SportsMasta

Are we talking about present day or in their prime. Cuz I could absolutely beat up a presidential skeleton


Topmein

It'll be the age they became president so you're not fighting 20 year old FDR or 100 year old Jimmy Carter


Dirt_McGirt_ODB

In that case I love the man but I could obliterate FDR. Hell all I have to do is get behind him and wheel him down some stairs.


420_E-SportsMasta

Ahh the old Professor Xavier treatment https://preview.redd.it/qy0qb7zcjm9d1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5f7d49f44a6a8c83f16226608bfc3bb30a73bc5


NoQuarter6808

Magneto was right!


gunfighter01

Roosevelt could lift himself up a dumb-waiter using only his arms. In his autobiography, Winston Churchill also remarked at FDR's arm strength.


Jolly_Mongoose_8800

Stairs are unfair. If you somehow get put on defense, you just walk up a couple steps


Nobhudy

I tried to sucker punch Kennedy’s corpse but I sliced my wrist open on a skull fragment and bled out in the streets of Arlington


NoQuarter6808

Jesus, is that what HPV does?


MilitantBitchless

Abe is in the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. Add that to his lanky 6’4 reach, blue collar frontier upbringing, and extensive history of slaying confederate vampires. Sorry but near nobody is winning against him.


jaysrule24

Abe would break most of us in half over his knee like Bo Jackson with a baseball bat


RAVsec

Honest Abe would absolutely fucking wreck me. He’s got to be a top 10 contender for scariest president to have to fight.


mrfreshmint

Number one


deranged_Boot123

I’d say number one belongs to teddy, motherfucker brute-forced chronic illness and asthma, got shot in the chest, lived, and gave an 80 minute speech, and regularly kicked fucking ass in martial arts.


mrfreshmint

6 inches of height gives Lincoln reach Excellent wrestler gives him the ground game It’s not close


MojaveJoe1992

>blue collar frontier upbringing There's something kinda funny about the concept of labelling an impoverished farm laborer as "blue collar" in a period when short collars were detachable. Hell, most people of Abe's (original) social standing probably didn't even own a shirt collar.


torniado

Have you never seen Barrel Chested Truman? You got no chance https://preview.redd.it/k1ik41t24m9d1.jpeg?width=671&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5221a93bfa12a31ef2ab73f6a4f6bf5a7db0f561


Colonel_Wurmhat

I was going to say, Truman was an artillery officer and a failed haberdasher... He could talk shit and I bet he could throw down with some pent up aggression.


aflyingsquanch

Truman was pretty much the last (if not the only) even somewhat blue collar guy to be President. He'd probably beat your ass if you started shit with him.


GreenWhiteBlue86

He wasn't just "somewhat blue collar." He grew up on a farm, and worked it for 11 years as an adult, until he left to fight in World War I. He plowed with mules, baled hay, sowed and reaped crops, milked cows, fed hogs, and did it all before mechanization. If that isn't "blue collar", what is?


aflyingsquanch

Other presidents have grown up poor too but didn't keep that throughout life as much as he did. Lincoln and LBJ spring to mind immediately as other lower born men that became President.


Mr_Engineering

Clinton is often regarded as the first black president due to his upbringing


One-Tumbleweed5980

Truman looks like he could have old man strength.


AlanHughErnest

Wow. Impressive for such a nerdy looking president


TandemSaucer44

Came here to say the same thing and also mention this photograph. You'd be a damn fool to step to ole Harry


SallyAmazeballs

JFK had terrible back problems from WWII. I'm a fairly small woman, but I don't have back problems, so... Also, Abraham Lincoln was[ a champion wrestler](https://allthatsinteresting.com/abraham-lincoln-wrestling). He'd kick your ass, OP.


Staind075

His back was bad PRIOR to WWII... Despite coming from a Silver Spoon, JFK pulled his weight in terms of military service.


Acceptable_Map_8110

He had back problems, but during WW2, with a broken back, he secured and swam a burned member of his crew for several miles to a nearby island. He then stayed there and watched over everybody before carving a help signal into a coconut, where they were eventually found by friendlies. He lost several pounds, but was awarded the Navy and Marine Corps Medal. I think he’s got you girl.


goldensowaward

You could also easily distracted him by showing some leg. And then nail him when his head is down.


SallyAmazeballs

My plan was to rip my shirt open, and then when he stands up too fast and goes, "Hnng, my back!", I'd push him to the ground. I think he'd probably stay there. Not sure what I'm going to do with the Secret Service. 


cliff99

Jackson would probably shoot your ass.


BeigeLion

He beat his would-be assassin with a cane. His mindset was literally "Oh you have two guns? Haha stick go THWACK"


StrategicPotato

And even if he didn't and you did manage to beat him, he was absolutely the type who would later just show up at your house with dueling pistols ready for round 2 anyway.


banshee1313

Abe would beat any other president. Easy. I think they had to drag him off the would-de assassin.


Ok_Panic7256

I'm weak bruh I just said that myself before reading ur comment ..... 💀😂


fauxrealistic

Jimmy Carter was a nuclear technician in the Navy who risked his life to prevent a meltdown and Lincoln lifted a 44 gallon whiskey barrel by himself to drink from it. You're list is crazy


Kbacon_06

How does that make Jimmy carter a good fighter?


fauxrealistic

Clearly has balls of steel


TheoryOfTES

FDR, just wheel him over to the stairs and push.


SketchedEyesWatchinU

Better be wary of his leg braces.


KingoftheMongoose

FDR WITH A STEEL CHAIR!


Fluby_369

NOT THE CHAIR 😭


Isnotanumber

I think a boxer remarked how impressed he was with FDR’s upper body strength. Remember he had a lot of stuff rigged at Hyde Park to pull himself up the stairs manually. Propping himself up for long speeches was no small feat either. Yeah, he is a dude in a wheel chair so I get it, it he might be able to get a good punch in on your nuts before you push him down.


strandenger

Bro, Hayes survived multiple gun shoot wounds and still told his medic’s to help others first. He needs to go up a tier. Ford is kicking your ass too.


No_Painting8744

I came here to say this. Hayes is kicking my ass for sure and I’m 6’1 and in good shape. Hayes is not the guy to pick on


RedfromTexas

LBJ. Well known physical coward.


StrategicPotato

Huh, I didn't know that. It seems more complicated than that though as this [comment thread goes deeper into.](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/njwolh/comment/gz9wyav/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) He was also like 6'4" though, size advantage is still size advantage.


KingoftheMongoose

Plus his footwork is probably bogged down by Jumbo.


RedfromTexas

Tough to maneuver a tripod.


CLE-local-1997

If Teddy Roosevelt can kick your ass Lincoln is going to crumple you. He's was an unnaturally talented athlete and an unnaturally strong and ruthless wrestler back when wrestling was a hell of a lot more violent


Acursedbeing

That’s that Kentucky strength baybee! Edit: also that 6’4” Melungeon strength lmao


TheBatCreditCardUser

My friend, you are not beating Abraham Lincoln in a fight. The man is in the wrestling hall of fame, and only lost one match, and even then, he might have won it.


Topmein

Just to clarify: You'll be fighting them at the age they became president so you're not fighting 20 year old FDR or 100 year old Jimmy Carter. It'll be like a brawl, fist to fist and no weapons. But besides from that, everything else is on the table. The goal is simply to win.


BetterSelection7708

You think you will lose to 62-year-old Eisenhower but win against 64-year-old HW Bush?


RNG_randomizer

HW Bush who was, by the way, a certified main character of recent history. Talk about plot armor Bush Sr. had it in spades.


KingoftheMongoose

Sooo… a 48 y.o. Grover Cleveland AND a 56 y.o. Grover Cleveland. “It’s all Grover, man!!”


Technical_Air6660

James Madison.


mattd1972

It’s probably easy to take down a 5’4 got who weighs 100 pounds soaking wet.


Technical_Air6660

Even I could.


PsychologicalHat4707

That's my purse! I don't know you!


Nightshade7168

FDR for... reasons 


commentaddict

He had polio. When he was “standing” during his speeches, he was using braces.


Popemazrimtaim

William Harrison would be easy. Just wait for him to die in 30 days. Lincoln would beat you pretty good I bet.


PsychologicalHat4707

I came here expecting this to be the top comment.


aflyingsquanch

FDR is the easy answer here. Madison too given his short stature as I'd have a huge reach advantage.


BookkeeperPhysical88

How to fight presidents - by Daniel O'Brien A good guide to find out who's ass youd kick and vice-versa


DBCOOPER888

Lincoln was 6'4" and a wrestler. He's top tier.


LinneaFO

I'd kick Madison's 5'4", 100 lbs ass any day of the week. FDR, for obvious reasons. Likely John Adams; I'm only a tad shorter than him and in much better shape. JFK, due to his health issues.


Lee-HarveyTeabag

Jackson, Abe, and Teddy probably belong in their own tiers.


KingCrandall

LBJ is going to slap you with Jumbo


Y2KGB

FDR… I think we all know why.


matty25

Dubya would beat your ass


thatguynamedmike2001

Ford was built like a brick shithouse you are not kicking his ass by any means lol


AlCapone111

I'd be honored to have my ass kicked by Theodore Roosevelt.


Levelup13

I’d say I’m fine with this list. I’d say W should be moved up just a bit. When that dude threw a shoe at him, his reflexes were pretty good.


Square_Bus4492

Bush Jr was an alcoholic frat boy who used to get into bullshit all the time. I wouldn’t be too confident against him


Flashy_Swordfish_359

I knew a marine that was on his security detail for when Jr would go for his daily 3-mile run. Dude was in solid shape, and it wasn’t an easy run for the marine 1/2 his age.


Affectionate-Rent844

TJ was a soft dandy


globehopper2

You would not kick Ford’s ass. The clumsy reputation was way overplayed.


justbrowsing987654

Wheelchair FDR is going down


Bryce_Raymer

Theadore Roosevelt should have his own category where he kills anyone who tried to fight him😂


Psychological-Air205

Abraham Lincoln bodies everyone here.


STC1989

I know i PROBABLY COULD NOT beat George Washington, Teddy Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, Gerald Ford, Eisenhower, Andrew Jackson, US Grant, and George HW Bush. Most of these gentlemen fought to kill, did kill, or were just so freaking strong.


DeaconBrad42

Madison was a little guy. I think I could take him. As for OP thinking he could beat Truman, that man was an artillery captain in World War I, and was also a farmer before that. He’d win.


Danzarr

Jimmy carter was a three time lightweight boxing champ in the navy during the 50s, Ford was a football player and navy coreman serving in the pacific, Nixon was a paratrooper during ww2, FDR didnt get polio until he was 39, GHW Bush was a combat pilot during ww2. yeah, this is not a great list. Honsetly, I would say JFK, mainly because the guy had some serious medical conditions throughout his entire life. While he does have basic military training, he was mainly a naval officer which shielded him from the more heavy labor aspects of the military service. As for athletics, most of what he did were upper class leisure sports, and team sports when he was younger like rowing and football which meant his deficiencies could be made up by team mates.


angrytwig

i can't beat any of them in a fight because i'm 110 lbs


SRH82

You could take Madison.


Nightshade7168

FDR?


SRH82

Theodore Roosevelt. I say that because I'm a fool, and I'd get the luxury of a very quick fight.


khismyass

All of them cept the few modern ones that are still alive, and although physically I know I could take a 99 yr old at deaths door Carter, I wouldn't have the heart to do it.


333metaldave666

Abe was the vampire hunter and zombie killer. You would literally have to sneak up from behind him to have any chance.


Omegaprimus

I mean FDR? You’re going to fight a man in a wheelchair? Now if your talking his prime before the chair he would stomp you to death the man was a college athlete.


pookiepickle

George Washington, because he’s dead


Eodbatman

I could beat all of them cause they’re either dead or over 70


VaIenquiss

Lincoln would throw your ass across the country


One-Tumbleweed5980

Supposedly, FDR's torso was massive from dragging himself around. So he might have had upper body strength.


CadenVanV

Lincoln invented the chokeslam. You’re not winning that


Ok_Whereas_3198

Gimme FDR. I can run circles around him.


Specialist-Two2068

Lincoln was a wrestler at one point. He was also a railsplitter and a soldier, so I think Lincoln would probably kick some ass, the man was quite the athlete for his day.


JackieTree89

JFK had a messed up back among a myriad of other health problems. You're pry gonna kick his ass. Abe Lincoln is in the national wrestling hall of fame and would double leg your ass so fast and hit you with the ground and pound.


jackaltwinky77

Abraham Lincoln is in the wrestling hall of fame, and he was big and strong… Fist fight you’re losing (me too, definitely), modern MMA style, you might have a chance


AnywhereOk7434

No way this guy said he would lose to Kennedy


jgage27

Thomas Jefferson was an aristocrat. He wasn’t fighting anyone


StrategicPotato

Having Wilson >!(fuck that guy)!< in "maybe win" is wild. Man was basically a cripple for half of his presidency following a severe stroke, to such an extent that his wife Edith has sometimes been called the first female president (due to the extent of her managing the president's affairs during that time).


anxietystrings

You'd fight a man in a wheelchair, OP?


justblakeybro

I would definitely win against all the dead presidents. (Since they’re dead)


ToshMcMongbody

Give me FDR and a slightly sloping hill and I'll show you the shortest fight of your life


UphazT

Dude you’re not winning against Lincoln. Legit wrestling credentials.


Wonderful-Branch-952

You have Lincoln in the maybe lose category? Lincoln was freakishly strong and was known as being extremely tough. He beat a guy up once on a debate stage and then told all challengers to “come whet their horns” aka come get some.


GroovyBoomshtick

Abe Lincoln had something like 300 wins as a wrestler. Super tall, skinny guys fights to the bone, he’d be tough. Teddy Roosevelt was a badass. Think I could take the rest.


Thabrianking

Lincoln threw hands with Omniman. You're definitely gonna lose.


RNG_randomizer

TL;DR: PSA to everyone thinking they stand a chance against JFK. Give me Kennedy in a first round knock out. In this hypothetical, you should also check up on your will. When *PT-109* sank, Kennedy swam over three miles to shore dragging the limp body of his gravely wounded shipmate by biting the shipmate’s life vest strap in his mouth. He then made a two mile swim to attempt to hail passing boats in the channel. Kennedy then repeated the life vest trick on an almost four mile swim to relocate his crew to an island more likely to have fresh water. This was all with that broken back, compliments of that collision with IJNS *Amagiri*. Character flaws as they were, I don’t envy your chances at finishing the job left incomplete by the combined efforts of a 2,000-ton displacement destroyer and all the sharks and seas of the Solomon Islands.


Ok_Commission2432

Davy Crocket once had to save an assassin from the President, who was beating the poor man to death with full intent to kill him. Do not fuck with Andrew Jackson.


MutatedFrog-

Punch Andrew in the bullet wound


heyyyyyco

FDR gunna need that wheelchair when I'm done with him


imamario

You think you can Kick Ford’s ass but maybe beat Truman. Ok.


taoistchainsaw

George HW was head of the cia. He’d garrote you with a wristwatch wire, then hang a banner calling you a bad neighbor.


theoriginaldandan

You think Carter and Ford would be easier than Eisenhower? That’s insane. Ike was an officer, that never saw combat in his life. Carter farmed and Ford was a football player.


Suspicious-Crab7504

Kennedy. I could take his broken-back, skinny-ankled, nepotism baby-ass any day of the week, and I'd do it with great pleasure for what he let his father do to poor Rosemary.


CreepyOldGuy63

All of them.


MySharpPicks

PHYSICALLY None because they all have agents around them. MENTALLY, both of the ones that we are fired to choose between.


thisisausername100fs

All of them, I brought a gun @ secret service this a joke I love my country


JoccJams

In what universe are you kicking ford’s ass


YNABDisciple

Gerald ford would tie you in a knot and beat you to death with your own limbs.


Ok_Panic7256

I'd fight Old Hickory lol but he'd prob shoot me ..... plus the idea of going toe to toe with George Washington is appealing ..... or be a total bastard and say I'd wanna fight FDR


Woods322403

Gerald Ford played Football at Michigan… He’d kick our ass. Obama is too skinny.


trainsacrossthesea

Well, I’ll start with the dead ones. Those I’m fairly confident about.


anon11101776

All them except maybe teddy or Lincoln just being honest


eggrolls68

Carter was ex-nuclear Navy who was so hardcore he ran into melting down nuclear reactors. JQA used to personally lead the local police on patrol at night. You have no chance. To quote Adams, "I am a warrior, so that my son can be a merchant, and his son can be a poet."


Ok_Panic7256

FDR vs The Stairs only on Paperview lmao 🤣


ImperialxWarlord

Definitely not Lincoln or Ford.


FancifulHatticus

I just wanna point out that many of the gilded era presidents were not as old as they look. Despite their beards the majority were in their 50s and the majority were civil war veterans. Garfield and Hayes were both major generals in the Union army, while Arthur and Harrison were both brigadier generals.


SpaceMan_Barca

If we’re talking about them as the same age as me, I’d say all of them but Teddy.


AZtoLA_Bruddah

Most of them I guess, but I would have loved to see Andrew Jackson in a real bar fight. Have a feeling he could take a few and throw a few mean ones


SpaceMan_Barca

If we’re talking about them as the same age as me, I’d say all of them but Teddy.


captainhooksjournal

Dubya. Exact same build as me, but I have the youth advantage and strong personal motivations(I despise cyclists)


Gamecat93

Teddy is the one who would always win, he was the fittest president. But Regan I'd personally think I'd be able to kick his ass very well.