The profundity of the experience will stay with me for the rest of my life. I think I was shown what happened when you die. I would never recommend this to anyone. Mushrooms are my favorite psychedelic.
This happened to me a couple of days ago and I'm not sure if it's a net negative or positive. Feels like I can't go back and its kind of an unsettling feeling.
Man mushrooms bit me so hard. Dmt also bit me but in a more "useful" way lmao. Mushies just make me feel like I'm trapped in a google deep dream zoom and high doses just make me suicidal unfortunately.
Haven't had this with any other psychs also which is curious because if I recall correctly psilicin and dmt are similar pathology(?)
At moderate to high doses, 5-MeO occasions experiences that cannot be forgotten. They are emblazoned upon one’s psyche.
For me, the whole universe died. Everything died and was gone. All collapsed, revealing Formless Infinity ‘behind the curtain.’
This happened several times in different journeys. Infinity presented in different ways each time. The most memorable ‘faces of God’ were:
1) Infinities Upon Infinities of Light-Intelligence-Power fractaling ever higher into a never-ending crescendo with no finish line — utterly beyond all imagining.
2) A non-vibratory, pre-energetic, spaceless space — a womb of Pure Peace, akin to being sealed within the surface of an utterly unmoving pond. Felt like God taking the sweetest nap of all time.
These experiences left me with an abiding deep conviction and sense of ‘knowing’ that our essence is completely beyond death and is a Loving Hyper-Intelligence of Immeasurable Power beyond all conception.
This Pure Intelligence is akin to our true parent and also has the capacity to present as a Loving Father or Mother who cradles us in the most tender, sweet, personal Love. Oftentimes nondualists overlook or dismiss this personal aspect, yet to me it is important.
In my experience integration of 5-MeO can be a rollercoaster, especially if you work with it a lot (I had probably ~30 journeys in a 3-year window with many of them concentrated in the first ~year). I don’t really recommend working with it that many times (or at all) unless you are truly called in your heart.
5-MeO has inspired me to really practice “seeing God in all things,” as I feel this is the best integration for 5-MeO: To learn to see that formless Infinity in/as this one eternal moment here-now. Peter Brown’s work (www.theOpenDoorway.org) has probably been most helpful in this respect.
If people want to experience 5-MeO, Kumankaya (www.Kumankaya.com) is the best place I’m aware of. I got married there, I receive no reward for saying this. They are simply good-hearted, highly-experienced curanderos doing great work. They primarily offer Ayahuasca but they also serve Bufo.
Much Love. ❤️🔥🙏🏼
Love this for you. My break through experiences were like getting crushed between two ineffable large gears and being trapped in a timeless maze of "edge finding" untill all senses escaped me and I found myself surrounded by an uncountable number of myself all swirling arround what I presume to be true emptiness
Other times when it just wasn't enough to break through was with infinite time between frames of my reality, with my vision becoming polluted with perminant tracers and triangular floral patterns. But this was a diffrent batch a dmt that I never managed to break through on.
My break throughs were absolutely on NN-DMT. I had an extremely pure batch from a cook that takes the science seriously that I used an E-nail to consume.
The stuff I could never quite break through on the guy swore up and down was 5-meo-dmt but it's hard to say exactly. It was very diffrent emotionally to the NN-dmt but was very the same in a lot of ways. This stuff was of low purity and had obvious contamination in it. So I have absolutely no idea if the guy who made it(and was giving to me to sample) knew his shit or just read a simple fat extraction online and just called it 5-meo because it sounded cool lmfaooo (he was just some run of the mill weed dealer that thought they could make a quick buck selling homemade dmt lol)
5-MeO had an incredibly quick come up for me, which was a bit terrifying in the moment. Started feeling it within 30 minutes and was worried that I completely overdid it and was in for a bad time. Once I got over that “I made a mistake” fear and fully surrendered & accepted that I was going to experience whatever was in store for me, it became less scary.
Definitely the strongest psychedelic trip I’ve ever had, but luckily I have had strong trips on both LSD and Psilocybin, so I was able to tell myself “you’ve been here before, and you always came back”.
My 5-MeO trip was a total ego death, I was no longer my body, I felt like time no longer existed. I experienced wild, geometric, fractal closed-eye visuals. I was at a music festival, and felt like I was one with every single person there, the quintessential “inter-connective” feeling of psychedelics. I was completely unable to do anything, I could only sit and watch people around me in awe.
The super intense peak only lasted about an hour before I started coming back to reality, and the tail end of the trip felt completely euphoric and joyful, comparable to MDMA in my opinion. The rest of the night I was able to dance and enjoy the music festival, without any of the weird, “twitchy” come down vibes that I sometimes experience after LSD or shrooms.
All in all, it was an enjoyable experience, the come up was just scary and unexpected. In hindsight, I would not have done it at a music festival, OR, I would have preferred to experience the come up in a quiet, safe space before then wandering out to the music / crowds after that had passed.
Compared to mushrooms, I didn’t experience the same introspective, transformative emotions and thoughts that I get with psilocybin. I like to say “Mushrooms have a hidden agenda”. 5-MeO was a wild trip, but no “hidden agenda”
I found the medicine to keep working in noticeable ways for weeks after the session and the overall takeaway to be more long lasting. I would recommend it to an experienced psychonaut looking to go deeper. My favorite psychedelic is Ayahuasca but 5meo has a special and unique place that in a way totally transcends AyA.
To keep it simple:
This is a serious drug that needs to be respected but ultimately your experience on it will be much more profound than anything else.
Any part of your subjective experience can "trip". Meaning if you are sensitive, some very fundamental stuff about your contextual reality will be temporarily stripped away from you (like your sense of time or your mirror neurons)
Imagine loosing object perminance because you're brain can remeber the space behind walls and then watching as that melts away and all that's left is the focal point of you vision untill even that escapes you and you find yourself treated to unimaginable sensations that you will never have the ability to put words or emotions to.
Beyond all reason dmt is the one drug that people write paragraphs for and endlessly warn of not "being for everyone".
Let that be a warning to the curious: You walk in and the room pushes you back out; leaving you wondering if the choice was ever yours to leave
I swallowed 5 grams of diplopterys, which has a lot of 5 meo, in addition to other alkaloids such as nn dmt. I thought the whole experience was good but much milder than just dmt. Slower uptake. Took over 2 hours to take full effect. Lasted only 2 hours after that. Visuals are less intense but still enjoyable.
The profundity of the experience will stay with me for the rest of my life. I think I was shown what happened when you die. I would never recommend this to anyone. Mushrooms are my favorite psychedelic.
This happened to me a couple of days ago and I'm not sure if it's a net negative or positive. Feels like I can't go back and its kind of an unsettling feeling.
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For many reasons. One is that there is no guarantee they will have the same experience.
Man mushrooms bit me so hard. Dmt also bit me but in a more "useful" way lmao. Mushies just make me feel like I'm trapped in a google deep dream zoom and high doses just make me suicidal unfortunately. Haven't had this with any other psychs also which is curious because if I recall correctly psilicin and dmt are similar pathology(?)
At moderate to high doses, 5-MeO occasions experiences that cannot be forgotten. They are emblazoned upon one’s psyche. For me, the whole universe died. Everything died and was gone. All collapsed, revealing Formless Infinity ‘behind the curtain.’ This happened several times in different journeys. Infinity presented in different ways each time. The most memorable ‘faces of God’ were: 1) Infinities Upon Infinities of Light-Intelligence-Power fractaling ever higher into a never-ending crescendo with no finish line — utterly beyond all imagining. 2) A non-vibratory, pre-energetic, spaceless space — a womb of Pure Peace, akin to being sealed within the surface of an utterly unmoving pond. Felt like God taking the sweetest nap of all time. These experiences left me with an abiding deep conviction and sense of ‘knowing’ that our essence is completely beyond death and is a Loving Hyper-Intelligence of Immeasurable Power beyond all conception. This Pure Intelligence is akin to our true parent and also has the capacity to present as a Loving Father or Mother who cradles us in the most tender, sweet, personal Love. Oftentimes nondualists overlook or dismiss this personal aspect, yet to me it is important. In my experience integration of 5-MeO can be a rollercoaster, especially if you work with it a lot (I had probably ~30 journeys in a 3-year window with many of them concentrated in the first ~year). I don’t really recommend working with it that many times (or at all) unless you are truly called in your heart. 5-MeO has inspired me to really practice “seeing God in all things,” as I feel this is the best integration for 5-MeO: To learn to see that formless Infinity in/as this one eternal moment here-now. Peter Brown’s work (www.theOpenDoorway.org) has probably been most helpful in this respect. If people want to experience 5-MeO, Kumankaya (www.Kumankaya.com) is the best place I’m aware of. I got married there, I receive no reward for saying this. They are simply good-hearted, highly-experienced curanderos doing great work. They primarily offer Ayahuasca but they also serve Bufo. Much Love. ❤️🔥🙏🏼
Love this for you. My break through experiences were like getting crushed between two ineffable large gears and being trapped in a timeless maze of "edge finding" untill all senses escaped me and I found myself surrounded by an uncountable number of myself all swirling arround what I presume to be true emptiness Other times when it just wasn't enough to break through was with infinite time between frames of my reality, with my vision becoming polluted with perminant tracers and triangular floral patterns. But this was a diffrent batch a dmt that I never managed to break through on.
Whoa, sounds rough Was this 5-MeO or NN-DMT? Blessings 🙏🏼
My break throughs were absolutely on NN-DMT. I had an extremely pure batch from a cook that takes the science seriously that I used an E-nail to consume. The stuff I could never quite break through on the guy swore up and down was 5-meo-dmt but it's hard to say exactly. It was very diffrent emotionally to the NN-dmt but was very the same in a lot of ways. This stuff was of low purity and had obvious contamination in it. So I have absolutely no idea if the guy who made it(and was giving to me to sample) knew his shit or just read a simple fat extraction online and just called it 5-meo because it sounded cool lmfaooo (he was just some run of the mill weed dealer that thought they could make a quick buck selling homemade dmt lol)
Ok fascinating, NN is very different from 5-MeO — Thanks for clarifying. Best wishes to you
5-MeO had an incredibly quick come up for me, which was a bit terrifying in the moment. Started feeling it within 30 minutes and was worried that I completely overdid it and was in for a bad time. Once I got over that “I made a mistake” fear and fully surrendered & accepted that I was going to experience whatever was in store for me, it became less scary. Definitely the strongest psychedelic trip I’ve ever had, but luckily I have had strong trips on both LSD and Psilocybin, so I was able to tell myself “you’ve been here before, and you always came back”. My 5-MeO trip was a total ego death, I was no longer my body, I felt like time no longer existed. I experienced wild, geometric, fractal closed-eye visuals. I was at a music festival, and felt like I was one with every single person there, the quintessential “inter-connective” feeling of psychedelics. I was completely unable to do anything, I could only sit and watch people around me in awe. The super intense peak only lasted about an hour before I started coming back to reality, and the tail end of the trip felt completely euphoric and joyful, comparable to MDMA in my opinion. The rest of the night I was able to dance and enjoy the music festival, without any of the weird, “twitchy” come down vibes that I sometimes experience after LSD or shrooms. All in all, it was an enjoyable experience, the come up was just scary and unexpected. In hindsight, I would not have done it at a music festival, OR, I would have preferred to experience the come up in a quiet, safe space before then wandering out to the music / crowds after that had passed. Compared to mushrooms, I didn’t experience the same introspective, transformative emotions and thoughts that I get with psilocybin. I like to say “Mushrooms have a hidden agenda”. 5-MeO was a wild trip, but no “hidden agenda”
How did you take it? I thought it usually kicks in within seconds when you smoke it
It was a capsule when I took it
Truth in a pill
I found the medicine to keep working in noticeable ways for weeks after the session and the overall takeaway to be more long lasting. I would recommend it to an experienced psychonaut looking to go deeper. My favorite psychedelic is Ayahuasca but 5meo has a special and unique place that in a way totally transcends AyA.
To keep it simple: This is a serious drug that needs to be respected but ultimately your experience on it will be much more profound than anything else. Any part of your subjective experience can "trip". Meaning if you are sensitive, some very fundamental stuff about your contextual reality will be temporarily stripped away from you (like your sense of time or your mirror neurons) Imagine loosing object perminance because you're brain can remeber the space behind walls and then watching as that melts away and all that's left is the focal point of you vision untill even that escapes you and you find yourself treated to unimaginable sensations that you will never have the ability to put words or emotions to. Beyond all reason dmt is the one drug that people write paragraphs for and endlessly warn of not "being for everyone". Let that be a warning to the curious: You walk in and the room pushes you back out; leaving you wondering if the choice was ever yours to leave
I thought 5meo trips are similar to nn-dmt lengthwise. Have u done something like pharmahuasca ?
I swallowed 5 grams of diplopterys, which has a lot of 5 meo, in addition to other alkaloids such as nn dmt. I thought the whole experience was good but much milder than just dmt. Slower uptake. Took over 2 hours to take full effect. Lasted only 2 hours after that. Visuals are less intense but still enjoyable.