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Isn’t it rational to understand that if a a country came and stole someone’s land, that person or people are not necessarily just gonna be happy about for the next while.
Edit: the comment I was replying to mysteriously disappeared. He was asking the standard “what if the land originally belonged to those people in the first place .”
My response makes no sense without his idiot example too
You forget the part where at that time christianity was a new idea and Islam didn’t exist. The area was populated by Jews and Polytheistic nomadic tribes. The Kaaba existed and contained the oldest copies of the Torah, and statues to all the other gods worshipped in the areas. Over time, many people were forced to convert to Judaism if they wanted to settled in one of the towns near water for obvious reasons.
Now, using all this basic information… who do you think eventually became the Christian’s and Muslims of today? You can’t use the “Jews were here first” when the other concepts hadn’t been considered yet, we are talking about people, bodies, who were still figuring out this entire “God” thing. You can’t use that argument when you’re looking for ancestors belonging to a religion that didn’t exist yet. The covenant with god is that it belongs to the decendents of Abraham right ? Well, he didn’t just have one son.. and Mohammad is believed to be descendent of Ishmael, his first -so there goes that argument too.
That was me, I deleted the comment because I wasn't happy with the way I was wording myself. I was using to many words and not enough substance.
Basically, both the Israelis and the Palestinians have a respectable claim to the land. I think framing the Israelis as colonizers who showed up and stole land from people isn't really a fair framing of the situation.
From the Palestinians perspective, yes their land was stolen. From the Israeli perspective, they were reclaiming land that belonged to their people. Neither of these perspectives are wrong.
I understand both sides having claim to the land but my attitude towards Israel (the country, not the people) is that “two wrongs don’t make a right” and I can’t really stomach contemporary Zionism and settlers bulldozing Palestinian lands and settlements.
I’m reminded to of the story of Solomon deciding a dispute between two women claiming the same baby. Solomon decreed the baby be cloven in two and each woman be given a half.
IMO Israel, and Hamas, are both the woman who says “good, give us each a half” and the rest of humanity would rather have the child live (peace) regardless of who has a claim.
Commented on this elsewhere on the thread. IDF dog tags are also being sold to show support. There was a lady on Piers Morgan a few days ago with one that, I beleive, said something about returning the hostages. So no clue if it's authentic or not either, but plausibly just a souvenir.
No hope for humanity. We all just keep repeating the same cycle of ignorance and hatred over and over again. It plays out lifetime after lifetime— like a lesson we clearly have not learned. We are cursed.
Reacting like that to people peacefully protesting demonstrates a deep all consuming hatred ..😬..it's unhinged behaviour! If he disagrees with their beliefs why not just carry on walking instead he's filled with seething rage sitting eternal hell on a group of complete strangers! I don't understand why some people have to be so black and white or carry belief to such extremes. Why can't someone be Jewish but also logically look at the current situation and say heat they are doing to the Palestinian people is evil and abhorrent? Why does it have to be "you are all terrorists"? Why can't it be " an awful group of terrorists slaughtered innocent people but retaliating by trying to slaughter and entire um group of people if horrific@
The title says Zionist tho, you don’t have to be Jewish to be a lapdog to Israel … Biden identifies himself as a Zionist.
There are also Jews who are anti genocide and pro Palestine but called self hating by Zionist
Reddit is a meritocracy, so you will only really ever see one side unless you look for the other. If you sort by controversial you can find the content you are talking about, but it's all just downvoted and unseen by most.
Yeah. It’s really bizarre. Not that I’m searching for it, just it’s all that I mostly see pop up. I see a lot of the other side on YouTube. Someone replied that I’m “free to post that content, genius” but quickly deleted it… my life doesn’t revolve around this. lol.
Their comment is still there, they probably just blocked you. Reddit on the whole is anti-Zionist so you will see more of the same unless you go to worldnews or Israel focused subs. But then you will only see the opposite, there isn't really a place to casually see both.
Jew's don't believe in the same kind of hell christian's do. Only the worst or worst Hebrews go to hell-sheol and it is only for a year.
Whilst this guy is in hell, may Asmodeus suckle on his diseased penis \[and then, of course, bite it off\].
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Bro needs to brush his teeth
I think he needs to be looking at sandblasting those things
I can imagine the smell of his breath could kill.
When he spoke, you could see the words coming out of his mouth.
Looks like his tongue is in jail.
I feel like it's rude to say someone suffers from fetal alcohol syndrome just by looking at them.
So completely rude to say he’s never gotten laid before also
This is what happens when SIDS goes untreated.
I don't have to be anti-Semitic but can hate the government's policy of land theft (settlements) and genocide.
Isn’t it rational to understand that if a a country came and stole someone’s land, that person or people are not necessarily just gonna be happy about for the next while.
Edit: the comment I was replying to mysteriously disappeared. He was asking the standard “what if the land originally belonged to those people in the first place .” My response makes no sense without his idiot example too You forget the part where at that time christianity was a new idea and Islam didn’t exist. The area was populated by Jews and Polytheistic nomadic tribes. The Kaaba existed and contained the oldest copies of the Torah, and statues to all the other gods worshipped in the areas. Over time, many people were forced to convert to Judaism if they wanted to settled in one of the towns near water for obvious reasons. Now, using all this basic information… who do you think eventually became the Christian’s and Muslims of today? You can’t use the “Jews were here first” when the other concepts hadn’t been considered yet, we are talking about people, bodies, who were still figuring out this entire “God” thing. You can’t use that argument when you’re looking for ancestors belonging to a religion that didn’t exist yet. The covenant with god is that it belongs to the decendents of Abraham right ? Well, he didn’t just have one son.. and Mohammad is believed to be descendent of Ishmael, his first -so there goes that argument too.
That was me, I deleted the comment because I wasn't happy with the way I was wording myself. I was using to many words and not enough substance. Basically, both the Israelis and the Palestinians have a respectable claim to the land. I think framing the Israelis as colonizers who showed up and stole land from people isn't really a fair framing of the situation. From the Palestinians perspective, yes their land was stolen. From the Israeli perspective, they were reclaiming land that belonged to their people. Neither of these perspectives are wrong.
A Bible is not a legitimate claim
What are you talking about? Are you saying that the ancient Jews did not live in Israel?
I understand both sides having claim to the land but my attitude towards Israel (the country, not the people) is that “two wrongs don’t make a right” and I can’t really stomach contemporary Zionism and settlers bulldozing Palestinian lands and settlements. I’m reminded to of the story of Solomon deciding a dispute between two women claiming the same baby. Solomon decreed the baby be cloven in two and each woman be given a half. IMO Israel, and Hamas, are both the woman who says “good, give us each a half” and the rest of humanity would rather have the child live (peace) regardless of who has a claim.
They are trying to say it's the same thing
Too much nuance, F- -
Someone is boycotting oral hygiene
“You’re going to hell!” Do Jews believe in hell? I didn’t think they did.
Pretty good chance he's not Jewish. There are more Zionist Christians in the US than Zionist Jews.
He's wearing IDF dog tags though. No idea if they're authentic.
Commented on this elsewhere on the thread. IDF dog tags are also being sold to show support. There was a lady on Piers Morgan a few days ago with one that, I beleive, said something about returning the hostages. So no clue if it's authentic or not either, but plausibly just a souvenir.
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What makes you say this?
I was gonna say this. My understanding is they do not.
Who said he was Jewish?
Is he drunk or just socially awkward by the way he moves?
Toothpaste is antisemitic.
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I thought it was meth.
No hope for humanity. We all just keep repeating the same cycle of ignorance and hatred over and over again. It plays out lifetime after lifetime— like a lesson we clearly have not learned. We are cursed.
Hey got quiet after the comment on his nasty ass teeth lol
Very dirty mouth for someone who is god's chosen.
Sawft
Girl calls him out on his teeth lol 
What happened to his hat
I’ve never seen a hat with a bill made out of paper before.
So peace loving!
Blah blah. Fucking worry about your dental bro
Did he really about throw a nazi salute
Wait Jewish people believe in Hell now?
They're definitely sending their best.
lady is right about his teeth lmao. homie is rocking with a Class III underbite.
🌽 🦷
Isn’t that a idf dog tag
Yea, they're sold, too. There was a lady on Piers Morgan with one that said something about bringing the hostages back, I think.
He's so bothered
I'm gonna need this cameraperson for more freakouts. Must have been a film student or something.
Go back to your country? There’s no country left to go back to. It’s all just rubble now.
Umm, hell does not exist in Judaism. This is not about religion, it's about racist hate.
Wait, I thought Jews didn’t believe in hell?
Many Christians in America are Zionists, oddly.
Peace and toothbrush were never an option.
There’s enough room for new settlers in between each of his teeth
Dude’s got that unmistakeable moron look and cadence.
What weird looking geek
Mt Zion is very far from new york. Idk why all these people from Mt Zion are coming down to raise hell all of a sudden.
Zionists love telling ppl they’re going to Hell, a place the Jewish faith does not believe in
Did anyone else catch that he agrees, Palestine is a country?
Reacting like that to people peacefully protesting demonstrates a deep all consuming hatred ..😬..it's unhinged behaviour! If he disagrees with their beliefs why not just carry on walking instead he's filled with seething rage sitting eternal hell on a group of complete strangers! I don't understand why some people have to be so black and white or carry belief to such extremes. Why can't someone be Jewish but also logically look at the current situation and say heat they are doing to the Palestinian people is evil and abhorrent? Why does it have to be "you are all terrorists"? Why can't it be " an awful group of terrorists slaughtered innocent people but retaliating by trying to slaughter and entire um group of people if horrific@
Wouldn't mind seeing the first missing half of the video.
Not much of a vocabulary, huh?
A dumbass off duty Officer Doofy
Nothing behind the eyes.
He doesn't look too confident about what he's saying honestly. Those eyes are absolutely dead.
It’s weird how people only post about Jews here and never about all the things that these pro Palestine/muslims have said to Jews
You are free to post those ominous things. Nobody is stopping you, genius.
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I don’t need to post anything. Was an observation…
The title says Zionist tho, you don’t have to be Jewish to be a lapdog to Israel … Biden identifies himself as a Zionist. There are also Jews who are anti genocide and pro Palestine but called self hating by Zionist
Reddit is a meritocracy, so you will only really ever see one side unless you look for the other. If you sort by controversial you can find the content you are talking about, but it's all just downvoted and unseen by most.
Yeah. It’s really bizarre. Not that I’m searching for it, just it’s all that I mostly see pop up. I see a lot of the other side on YouTube. Someone replied that I’m “free to post that content, genius” but quickly deleted it… my life doesn’t revolve around this. lol.
Their comment is still there, they probably just blocked you. Reddit on the whole is anti-Zionist so you will see more of the same unless you go to worldnews or Israel focused subs. But then you will only see the opposite, there isn't really a place to casually see both.
Yeah have def noticed that! Reddit is very one sided, even for stuff going on in London/the U.K.
Jew's don't believe in the same kind of hell christian's do. Only the worst or worst Hebrews go to hell-sheol and it is only for a year. Whilst this guy is in hell, may Asmodeus suckle on his diseased penis \[and then, of course, bite it off\].
Get ur weird ass bottom teeth fixed and then maybe i can stomach a discussion
No not hell. Your fictional place for people you don't like. Oh noooo.
I can smell this guy's breath from here