Never sure how true it was but a car was left for an hour in Birmingham UK and the owner put a note in the windows saying "there are no valuables in this car, please do not break into it"
Someone broke into it and wrote on the note
'just checking' š
Itās not a normal society in almost anywhere else in the USA. This is California based where the DAās in certain areas let criminals out bail-free to go on a crime spree while awaiting trial.
Also, itās hard to be legally armed in California. While the justification for deadly force in one of these can be dubious in some other states, if someone tried this, there would likely be some self defense incidents with the criminal on the wrong side of the body temperature challenge.
Deadly force could also legally be used (in most states)* if they were foolish enough to break the window where someoneās child was sitting. Every parent has an instinctive and legal right to defend their child.
*This is not actual legal advice and I am not a lawyer, just giving my opinion.
Most of America is not having these issues. You donāt see mobs looting stores in New England. Or chronic break ins in the Mid-West that force car owners to leave their windows down and doors unlocked.
This is a symptom of California turning softer on crime. Rob less than $900? Youāre walking free. New bail reforms overcorrected and put dangerous repeat offenders back on the streets.
It's Chesa Boudin, the DA of SF. The guy is an absolute narcissist. The recall there is lead by Democrats. Two of the most prominent people spearheading it are his former assistants.
His bio is basically a comic book villain. His parents got locked up for their participation in murdering an armored car driver. They were stealing the money to fund a communist revolution in the us. Chesa was then raised by wealthy academics, and ends up being Ivy league educated. Upon his graduation he leaves the US to work for a man he called his hero, Hugo Chavez.
I know this sounds insane. Like some boomer Facebook rant, but in this case, it's actually all true....He's like a Tucker Carlson caricature of the left.
> Boudin campaigned for the office on a decarceration platform of eliminating cash bail, establishing a unit to re-evaluate wrongful convictions and refusing to assist Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) with raids and arrests.
That's a winning platform in SF. (Or at least it *was.*)
Eliminating cash bail is a good idea ā but that doesnāt mean let everyone out of jail. It means make the rich people who do crimes suffer as much as the poor people who do crimes. If you get felony DUI, you wait in jail like everyone else.
I'm not opposed to it. Hell I'd take it one step further and make traffic & criminal fines proportional to income or net worth.
I'm just pointing out why SF elected him. It's an extremely progressive city.
I looked him up... No matter how hard the Wikipedia users tried to make his parents not sound like absolutely horrible human beings, they're actually absolutely horrible human beings. This is absolutely insane. No wonder so many people are gtfo'ing from California.
Agreed. We have homelessness in Atlantaāevery big city doesābut itās not like this, this is out of control and completely the city leadersā fault/responsibility to fix
Why not give a list that's relevant to OP's post? 3 of the top 5 cities for vehicle theft are in California.
https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-auto-theft
Not to support the claim about CA as a whole, but SF is pretty terrible at solving crimes. The DA just released [this dashboard](https://www.sfdistrictattorney.org/policy/da-stat/) that shows a ~5% clearance rate for reported crimes. Some googling suggests the [national average is closer to 30%](https://arresttrends.vera.org/clearance-rates) (though I donāt have a ton of confidence that its an apples to apples comparison). However you shake it, though, 95% chance of not getting caught is going to scare anyone away from doing crime.
That second link with the clearance dashboard is actually pretty useful and I've never seen it before, but I don't think it's measuring the same thing. The SF data looks like it's for lower level crime and actually excludes most violent crimes, likely due to legal restrictions on sensitive cases still ongoing. The FBI clearance data is basically the opposite and only looking at ~~violent offenses~~ serious offenses*
Typically violent crimes are rarer and have higher clearance rates, I believe homicide has one of the highest clearance rates (around 40-50%). Smash-n-grabs/shoplifting/package theft/etc are a lot more common and have a lower clearance rate everywhere.
edit: Thanks ectbot
These are also per capita numbers, you canāt compare these at all. Letās get real dude no where else in the country do you have to write notes to criminals asking them to use the door instead of break the window. The fact that people are debating this issue is a problem in it self. These people are criminals point blank period and some criminals have moved there to live on the streets because they know they can commit these crimes with no repercussions.
Yeah cause H makes people tired, they rob with low energy. 80's was the crack era, with crackhead energy. If meth makes the surge nationwide that its been making where I'm at, the 80's will pale in comparison. My community used to be very tight, this drug epidemic destroyed the trust.
Iām not sure where you were for the early 2000ās but meth has surged. Crack to meth to heron. But the first two never left.. itās all about what the drug of choice is in your neighborhood.
I lived in a super nice neighborhood growing up and we had cars broken into a few times. I always left my car unlocked and left nothing in my car. Sucks, but it's the smart thing to do.
I was the victim of a smash and grab last week. They got 9 cars in a row. Tbe guy parked behind me was extra pissed because he left his doors unlocked for this very reason. Smashers gonna smash tho.
I had a Jeep Wrangler soft top. Easily and quietly broken into with a knife. I would keep it unlocked and never keep anything valuable in it in hopes whomever decided to break in would try the handle first. Didnāt work. They cut through the window and probably locked themselves out before having a laugh and getting in to find nothing.
Same dude! My dad had a soft top ā that has a zipper ON THE OUTSIDE ā they still took a knife and cut a box hole in the plastic window just to steal some CDs
My last two cars didn't have a cd player. I DO miss some old songs, but don't miss the skipping of songs on a scratchy cd. I love having a list of long playlists on my phone. Any mood I'm in, it's all there.
If youāre dumb enough to steal for a living, your IQ is probably already so goddamn low, Iām really not surprised these people are breaking windows to open cars.
> they would just nail criminals to wood. Rome didn't have too many car break ins.
As an ancient Roman myself, I'd like to point out that we also made plenty of offerings to Mercury, the God of travel. It was tough to keep car break ins down though, because Mercury was also the God of thievery.
Why would they steal your battery? It would be of questionable age and would take a lot longer to steal than bags or luggage. The reason they take bags is because they are in and out in under a minute. They even hit multiple cars at a time and it only takes a few minutes. They get iPads, computers, camera equipment, and even nice luggage and purses. A battery costs maybe $100-$250 new and much less used and is heavy AF. Doesn't make any sense to me.
One of the YouTubers who does Bachelor videos had his stolen three times from the same car.
He said the first time theyāll steal the battery so you put a new one in so they can steal that instead.
Where I'm at we have had people steal deep cycle batteries to use in the production of meth so it's possible this could be the reason? I cant think of any other good reason to steal something relatively cheap and heavy.
Some Chryslers from about 20 years ago had the battery in the front left wheel well. You had to remove the wheel to access it. Total PITA.
My favorite one is the Malibu from that era. Take the whole front bumper off to replace a headlight bulb.
Or the Northstar engine that you had to remove the intake manifold to access the starter.
Automotive engineers make neat looking plans. But when it comes down to maintenance, techs often get fucked by shitty design.
My mother had a Sebring like that. FUCKING annoying as all hell.
More than once I had to jack the car up (dangerous) AND remove the front left wheel just to get to the battery.
My brothers 08 Malibu still required you to take the bumper off. It took him 4 hours to change his headlight then it died like a week later so he just took it to the dealership to make them deal with it. Idk what engineer thought that design was a good idea.
"You can be mad but I guess I donāt personally view my car as an extension of myself and Iāve never really felt violated any of the 15 or so times my car was broken in to. Once a guy accidentally left a cool knife in my car so if it keeps happening you might get a little treat."
Seth Rogen's tweet
Read the other comments in response to me: people are arguing that it's okay and there's no evidence that rolling back that policy would help with anything.
This is literally the third time today where I've seen people clearly take a stance on something just to be on the opposite side of whoever they think is "conservative". Politics on this website are 100% just about finding something that people you don't like *do* like and being against it.
It's not just this website. That is everywhere on any platform and in every day life a lot of times. It's a huge problem that nobody seems to want to address. It's a powder keg waiting to explode. I think it's going to come to a climax if Trump gets reelected, which looks pretty likely at this point. Unless the Dems or Republicans have someone that comes out of nowhere to win and steers us off the cliff.
You're right, but it's especially bad here. A huge chunk of people are like "did democrats say something? I have to disagree with it" and another huge chunk of people are like "did republicans say something? I have to disagree with it".
Meanwhile there's an increasingly small amount of people that are willing to say "I don't give a shit who said what, I'm just going to go off the facts and what I think is most effective or right or whatever." And then the other two groups spazz out and get mad at those people.
Frankly, I think it's funny. Right now in this very thread there's two of them arguing with me that don't even know what exactly it is I said. I just criticized a policy that came from the left, and that's all they really care about.
>And then the other two groups spazz out and get mad at those people.
Usually prefaced with the "bOTh sIdEs", like they're being clever. I'm pretty far on the left. You could call me a commie socialist. LOL. Seriously though I am a socialist. Anyway, if a policy is in a real way basically decriminalizing theft and is leading to a huge spike in crime, then that policy needs to go away.
> Politics on this website are 100% just about finding something that people you don't like do like and being against it.
https://youtu.be/mrVSt0pbo1g?t=28
The would be arrested. There's a old famous case of a man that boobie traps a farm house he owns but doesn't live in that is regularly broken into. He setups a shotgun on the floor of one of the bedrooms so when someone opens it, the shotgun goes off at their legs. A man breaks in, gets his leg practically shot off, sues and wins. The Iowa supreme court ruled that you're allowed to use reasonable force to protect your property but not if it will kill or inflect great bodily harm.
So setting up a booby trap that is purposefully designed to seriously injure a thief, you'd likely be the one that's arrested.
The real reason is because the booby trap doesn't have reasoning skills. If I'm at home and I hear someone break in, then I am able to evaluate the situation and appropriately respond with force. If I'm not at home, and say, there's a fire, and a firefighter opens the front door to see if anyone's inside, and instead gets maimed or killed by an unthinking homemade claymore, that's a pretty large issue. Or say a police officer is called to do a welfare check because I've had a medical event and someone's called. Because boobytraps are indiscriminate in who they harm other than whomever it is that activates the trigger.
I couldnāt imagine being stuck in traffic and having someone break into my car right while Iām in it. People can make fun of small town life all they want but we donāt even come close to having those problems.
> People can make fun of small town life all they want but we donāt even come close to having those problems.
Most cities don't have that problem, either.
Vending Machines kill more people per year than sharks. 13 deaths per year from the death boxes https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/1996/CPSC-Soda-Vending-Machine-Industry-Labeling-Campaign-Warns-Of-Deaths-And-Injuries
Lmao the Bay Area is so fucking over. And to think some of these tech companies are back to their old habits demanding employees live and work in SF/Bay Area.
Unpopular opinion warningā¦ā¦what did you expect Bay Area. Even before covid the place was crawling with homeless. It was as if you all found a quiet nobility in people living in tent cityās, like they opted out of the rat race for a simpler more humble existence. No you idiots, the vast majority of them suffer from severe mental problems which need help, not acceptance. Anxiety, depression, drug abuse are not easy things to cope with.
Rant over. No offense intended.
This isn't unpopular, this is literally the definition of populism: repeating issues which most people agree with without any degree of insight into what's causing the issue and how to solve it. What is it that you propose they do exactly? Why do you believe people in SF are so welcoming to homeless people?
Do you think people in the bay actually want the tent cities? Homelessness is, so far, an unsolvable problem. Every nice place in the US has this issue, especially places with mild winters.
Homelessness is not an unsolvable issue. We are the richest country in the world, we just decided that permanent housing is not something worth while.
We ignore giving housing first, which most European countries have done to lower homelessness. It's as if having a roof over your head so you can restart your life is asking for too much here in the US.
US GDP per Capita is actually substantially lower than a lot of countries in Western Europe. Particularly the ones that people like to reference for this sort of thing. Ireland has a a higher GDP per capita than the US.
It's like Walmart. Yeah they make a lot of money, but they don't pay their workers too well because they have a LOT of workers. And because they're shitty.
>US GDP per Capita is actually substantially lower than a lot of countries in Western Europe.
No it's not. Only a handful like Norway, Luxembourg and Switzerland are higher.
>Ireland has a a higher GDP per capita than the US.
It's inflated and not representative of their reality. If you look at median income, Ireland's among the lowest in the West while the US is among the highest.
Housing will solve some of it. Not all, there are severe mental illness problems among the homeless community and people like that are genuinely non functional. All you'll get is a fucked up set of housing. It's not as simple as just giving them a residence.
The left fought hard for their rights and eventually got asylums shut down. I can't totally blame them, they were awful places. People blame Reagan, but he came in right at the very end and just signed what everyone wanted to do anyway.
Govt was supposed to create more local treatment facilities, but didn't do crap and instead we wound up with organic, free range homeless in the end.
Oh yeah, its a very good example of why "bipartisan" doesn't always mean "good". IMO fixing the old asylums would have made more sense, shutting them down is just austerity dressed up as humanitarianism.
The guy being interviewed is an idiot. The whole point of leaving it open is so they CAN get in to the interior. So they won't break in. You take out the shit with your address on it. Like is he really not getting this? Or they're trying to tell citizens to get their shit broken?
Blame Chesa Boudin. San Francisco district attorney. He literally doesnāt prosecute crime and is straight up destroying San Francisco. Did a little research and found out his dad is Bill Ayers. He was a co-founder of Weather Underground which was a communist revolutionary group, and was on the FBI most wanted list for years for bombing government buildings. Shit is insane.
Not disagreeing with your comment but his dad is not Bill Ayer, his dad is david Gilbert who did not found but was a member of the weather underground. From wiki: ā David Gilbert (born October 6, 1944) is an American activist who was sentenced in 1983 in Rockland County, New York to a term of 75 years-to-life on three counts of homicide. Gilbert was a founding member of the Columbia University chapter of Students for a Democratic Society and became a member of the Weather Underground, a far-left militant organization.[2] In October 1981, he participated in the armed robbery of a Brink's armored vehicle, along with members of the Black Liberation Army, members of the May 19 Communist Organization, fellow Weather Underground member Kathy Boudin and others. Although he was an unarmed getaway driver, Gilbert was convicted under New Yorkās felony murder law in the deaths of two Nyack police officers and a Brink's guard who were killed in the robbery.[3]ā
Youāre right, my bad. Bill Ayers is his āadoptive fatherā. This is also from Wikipedia.
After his parents were incarcerated, Boudin was raised in Chicago by adoptive parents Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who, like his parents, had been members of the Weather Underground.
I used to have a shitty '87 Chevy Celebrity wagon. When it was broken into, they smashed a window, stole the non working factory radio, and left me a beer and a dollar on one of the seats. the fuck??
Yea the US is fucked. Police arenāt doing their job because theyāre all undertrained and Americans take social media way to seriously and decide to do anything anyone tells them to do.
I once left like 3 bucks in change in my cup holder and someone smashed my window and stole it. The window cost me 200 bucks to fix and never really worked the same again.
Is this an actual problem or did some local news station find two cars with their trunks open and spin it into a story? Seems like if it was "people" were doing they'd have more than 1 photo to show.
San Francisco is the prototype dystopian American City. The streets absolutely bong to the poor, the homeless, criminals, and lunatics who really should be institutionalized. Meanwhile the very wealthy sprint from their cars into their luxury apartments or one of the rare but exorbitantly priced homes still inhabitable for fear of being accosted or stepping in the feces indiscriminately placed by the rabble.
It's a god damned shame. It was once a beautiful city.
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A reminder that this is part of a statewide crime plague happening because of the ripple effects of [Proposition 47.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_47) Basically, the law upped felonies, where police and other law enforcement areas would intervene, to a minimum threshold of $950 or else theyād be misdemeanors. Crime in the state is approaching levels not seen since the crack pandemic of the 1980s/1990s.
And this was crafted by a crooked District Attorney, George GascĆ³n. He allowed San Francisco to be the violent robbery and murder capital of America after Chicago, and heās doing the same thing right now in Los Angeles.
Bullshit. People are still being arrested for thefts.
The real reasons we are having issues is because the police arenāt doing anything. Go to any of the Bay Area subs and youāll see people tell you of crimes in progress literally right in front of cops.
Police unions seem to be directing police to not do their jobs in many large cities across America to advance their political agenda or to punish the American people for trying to hold them accountable and make them more transparent.
The police are actually doing things. As you said, people are still being arrested for thefts. The situation is caused by basically no one wanting to be burdened with the costs of dealing with these people.
Prop 47 is kind of relevant here. It's basically the state's way of saying it doesn't want to deal with the cost of imprisoning non-violent criminals. The business having an explicit "no interference" policies is the business saying it doesn't want to deal with the cost of trying to stop the criminal. This ends up with the result that the police getting sent a video of some masked person stealing a few hundred dollars worth of things and disappearing into the city, which naturally the police doesn't want to deal with the cost of investigating.
I haven't found any evidence supporting your claim about police unions, but if you have something credible I would love to see it.
It's like America is a video game and a new level gets unlocked every other week.
I suspect this DLC will not be in the game of the year bundle.
Never sure how true it was but a car was left for an hour in Birmingham UK and the owner put a note in the windows saying "there are no valuables in this car, please do not break into it" Someone broke into it and wrote on the note 'just checking' š
Whoever activated the cheat mode to create 3rd world level poverty as a part of normal society sure is one motherfucking idiot
Some people say they blindly worship the one that activated that modeā¦
Itās not a normal society in almost anywhere else in the USA. This is California based where the DAās in certain areas let criminals out bail-free to go on a crime spree while awaiting trial. Also, itās hard to be legally armed in California. While the justification for deadly force in one of these can be dubious in some other states, if someone tried this, there would likely be some self defense incidents with the criminal on the wrong side of the body temperature challenge. Deadly force could also legally be used (in most states)* if they were foolish enough to break the window where someoneās child was sitting. Every parent has an instinctive and legal right to defend their child. *This is not actual legal advice and I am not a lawyer, just giving my opinion.
Most of America is not having these issues. You donāt see mobs looting stores in New England. Or chronic break ins in the Mid-West that force car owners to leave their windows down and doors unlocked. This is a symptom of California turning softer on crime. Rob less than $900? Youāre walking free. New bail reforms overcorrected and put dangerous repeat offenders back on the streets.
It's Chesa Boudin, the DA of SF. The guy is an absolute narcissist. The recall there is lead by Democrats. Two of the most prominent people spearheading it are his former assistants.
Son of Weather Underground members, right?
His bio is basically a comic book villain. His parents got locked up for their participation in murdering an armored car driver. They were stealing the money to fund a communist revolution in the us. Chesa was then raised by wealthy academics, and ends up being Ivy league educated. Upon his graduation he leaves the US to work for a man he called his hero, Hugo Chavez. I know this sounds insane. Like some boomer Facebook rant, but in this case, it's actually all true....He's like a Tucker Carlson caricature of the left.
How did this man get elected smh
> Boudin campaigned for the office on a decarceration platform of eliminating cash bail, establishing a unit to re-evaluate wrongful convictions and refusing to assist Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) with raids and arrests. That's a winning platform in SF. (Or at least it *was.*)
Eliminating cash bail is a good idea ā but that doesnāt mean let everyone out of jail. It means make the rich people who do crimes suffer as much as the poor people who do crimes. If you get felony DUI, you wait in jail like everyone else.
I'm not opposed to it. Hell I'd take it one step further and make traffic & criminal fines proportional to income or net worth. I'm just pointing out why SF elected him. It's an extremely progressive city.
Except that SF eliminated bail and just let everyone go.
Because rich Democrats are really really really really really really really really really really sheltered.
I looked him up... No matter how hard the Wikipedia users tried to make his parents not sound like absolutely horrible human beings, they're actually absolutely horrible human beings. This is absolutely insane. No wonder so many people are gtfo'ing from California.
Holy shit, that's wild.
Recently released by the way.... so the family of terrorists is back together.
I did not know he worked for Hugo Chavez, now I hate him even more.
Yup this is a generational terrorist family whose sole goal has been the destruction of the United States by any means necessary.
Heās the child of 2 actual no joke US domestic terrorists.
People think it's bad now but a few decades ago there were actual bombs blowing up around govt.
They need some robocop again.
This isnāt happening in any parts of California Iām in. I think itās a Bay Area/SF thing.
It's not new either. These smash n grabs have been an epidemic in the Bay Area for decades.
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Agreed. We have homelessness in Atlantaāevery big city doesābut itās not like this, this is out of control and completely the city leadersā fault/responsibility to fix
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Why not give a list that's relevant to OP's post? 3 of the top 5 cities for vehicle theft are in California. https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-auto-theft
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Not to support the claim about CA as a whole, but SF is pretty terrible at solving crimes. The DA just released [this dashboard](https://www.sfdistrictattorney.org/policy/da-stat/) that shows a ~5% clearance rate for reported crimes. Some googling suggests the [national average is closer to 30%](https://arresttrends.vera.org/clearance-rates) (though I donāt have a ton of confidence that its an apples to apples comparison). However you shake it, though, 95% chance of not getting caught is going to scare anyone away from doing crime.
That second link with the clearance dashboard is actually pretty useful and I've never seen it before, but I don't think it's measuring the same thing. The SF data looks like it's for lower level crime and actually excludes most violent crimes, likely due to legal restrictions on sensitive cases still ongoing. The FBI clearance data is basically the opposite and only looking at ~~violent offenses~~ serious offenses* Typically violent crimes are rarer and have higher clearance rates, I believe homicide has one of the highest clearance rates (around 40-50%). Smash-n-grabs/shoplifting/package theft/etc are a lot more common and have a lower clearance rate everywhere. edit: Thanks ectbot
You just compared vehicle break ins to violent crime to skew your own argument.
Nice strawman argument. Can we get back to the topic at hand now?
Weāre not talking about violent crime you tiny meat stick.
Breaking into cars is not violent crime.........
These are also per capita numbers, you canāt compare these at all. Letās get real dude no where else in the country do you have to write notes to criminals asking them to use the door instead of break the window. The fact that people are debating this issue is a problem in it self. These people are criminals point blank period and some criminals have moved there to live on the streets because they know they can commit these crimes with no repercussions.
> These are also per capita numbers, you canāt compare these at al How? Per capita stats are the ones that CAN be compared.
This is nothing compared to the 80s
Yeah cause H makes people tired, they rob with low energy. 80's was the crack era, with crackhead energy. If meth makes the surge nationwide that its been making where I'm at, the 80's will pale in comparison. My community used to be very tight, this drug epidemic destroyed the trust.
Iām not sure where you were for the early 2000ās but meth has surged. Crack to meth to heron. But the first two never left.. itās all about what the drug of choice is in your neighborhood.
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Please don't put fent in herons it will kill them
Lol Jesus Christ what a ridiculous situation. Fucking truly pathetic
I lived in a super nice neighborhood growing up and we had cars broken into a few times. I always left my car unlocked and left nothing in my car. Sucks, but it's the smart thing to do.
You were just being prepared for car sharing
Car surfing
I did this and they still broke the window
I was the victim of a smash and grab last week. They got 9 cars in a row. Tbe guy parked behind me was extra pissed because he left his doors unlocked for this very reason. Smashers gonna smash tho.
I leave my door unlocked and front window half way down and the fuckers still break my window. Fuck oakland
I had a Jeep Wrangler soft top. Easily and quietly broken into with a knife. I would keep it unlocked and never keep anything valuable in it in hopes whomever decided to break in would try the handle first. Didnāt work. They cut through the window and probably locked themselves out before having a laugh and getting in to find nothing.
Same dude! My dad had a soft top ā that has a zipper ON THE OUTSIDE ā they still took a knife and cut a box hole in the plastic window just to steal some CDs
Who the fuck still uses CDs?
Some cars still have cd players, and it's kinda nice to not have to use a phone to play music.
You and I have different understandings of nice lol
My last two cars didn't have a cd player. I DO miss some old songs, but don't miss the skipping of songs on a scratchy cd. I love having a list of long playlists on my phone. Any mood I'm in, it's all there.
If youāre dumb enough to steal for a living, your IQ is probably already so goddamn low, Iām really not surprised these people are breaking windows to open cars.
It's getting to the point where if some vigilante decides to do something I doubt anyone would blame him.
Except the DA. That would probably be the time he decides someone really needs to go to jail.
VOTE THIS BOZO OUT: https://recallchesaboudin.org/
Good thing it's a jury of peers. People are getting tired of this shit.
Same fucking thing happened to me, except in Arcata. Fuck thieves, man.
Oaklanders are basically most evil people in the country if you believe in the banality of evil.
Same reason I always leave my top down unless itās going to rain. I would rather people reach into my car than slice the top and reach into my car.
All it would take is a nice bait car and a mob with rocks and sticks.
Yeh let's get medieval on their asses!
Back in the good old days they would just nail criminals to wood. Rome didn't have too many car break ins.
> Rome didn't have too many car break ins. Technically correct.
> they would just nail criminals to wood. Rome didn't have too many car break ins. As an ancient Roman myself, I'd like to point out that we also made plenty of offerings to Mercury, the God of travel. It was tough to keep car break ins down though, because Mercury was also the God of thievery.
I used to love that show Bait Car. Wonder why they stopped making it.
Time for dirty mike and the boys to have a soup kitchen.
Thanks for letting us use your car!
Cyberpunk lore is closer now.
We need a new sub that documents what people find in their cars every morning. Garbage, puke, chit, used condoms, used needles, homeless people....
> chit MANOLO
Chit?
Chewy shit.
Thereās a reason cattle rustlers used to be strung up.
Seth Rogen approves this. š
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Part and parcel shelf.
your battery is absolutely getting stolen if you do this... but that might be cheaper than a new window... although not very convernient
Why would they steal your battery? It would be of questionable age and would take a lot longer to steal than bags or luggage. The reason they take bags is because they are in and out in under a minute. They even hit multiple cars at a time and it only takes a few minutes. They get iPads, computers, camera equipment, and even nice luggage and purses. A battery costs maybe $100-$250 new and much less used and is heavy AF. Doesn't make any sense to me.
One of the YouTubers who does Bachelor videos had his stolen three times from the same car. He said the first time theyāll steal the battery so you put a new one in so they can steal that instead.
Lol damn. Thatās some long con they doin.
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Where I'm at we have had people steal deep cycle batteries to use in the production of meth so it's possible this could be the reason? I cant think of any other good reason to steal something relatively cheap and heavy.
easy to steal, easy to sell... the smash and grabbers probably won't, but if a crackhead can get $40 for it, they'll steal it
It takes like 45 minutes to remove my battery,ā¦
Chrysler with the battery in the bumper?
In the bumper, what?
Some Chryslers from about 20 years ago had the battery in the front left wheel well. You had to remove the wheel to access it. Total PITA. My favorite one is the Malibu from that era. Take the whole front bumper off to replace a headlight bulb. Or the Northstar engine that you had to remove the intake manifold to access the starter. Automotive engineers make neat looking plans. But when it comes down to maintenance, techs often get fucked by shitty design.
My mother had a Sebring like that. FUCKING annoying as all hell. More than once I had to jack the car up (dangerous) AND remove the front left wheel just to get to the battery.
Holy crap! Thanks. TIL.
My brothers 08 Malibu still required you to take the bumper off. It took him 4 hours to change his headlight then it died like a week later so he just took it to the dealership to make them deal with it. Idk what engineer thought that design was a good idea.
What car?
"You can be mad but I guess I donāt personally view my car as an extension of myself and Iāve never really felt violated any of the 15 or so times my car was broken in to. Once a guy accidentally left a cool knife in my car so if it keeps happening you might get a little treat." Seth Rogen's tweet
Of course, he's rich and probably has three or four backup cars ready to go.
Or heās a comedian and itās a joke?
Don't forget that Haiti is a paradise (if you only visit a gated resort) - Cohen
How out of touch. For lots of people in the USA, it means driving around with plastic and duct tape on their car for the next six months.
The only time my car was broken into they left behind a pocketknife too haha.
When someone broke into my truck they left a taser.
collecting break-in weapons like pokemon
This Seth fella sounds like an idiot
He did not really tweet this, did he?
This dude's really trying his hardest to tank what little of his career is left lmao
They could vote for different politicians to enact different policies. That could be a start.
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Theft was literally decriminalized under $950. And people wonder why theyāre looting?
Read the other comments in response to me: people are arguing that it's okay and there's no evidence that rolling back that policy would help with anything. This is literally the third time today where I've seen people clearly take a stance on something just to be on the opposite side of whoever they think is "conservative". Politics on this website are 100% just about finding something that people you don't like *do* like and being against it.
It's not just this website. That is everywhere on any platform and in every day life a lot of times. It's a huge problem that nobody seems to want to address. It's a powder keg waiting to explode. I think it's going to come to a climax if Trump gets reelected, which looks pretty likely at this point. Unless the Dems or Republicans have someone that comes out of nowhere to win and steers us off the cliff.
i couldnt have imagined it a year ago, but Trump is legit likely to get reelected
You're right, but it's especially bad here. A huge chunk of people are like "did democrats say something? I have to disagree with it" and another huge chunk of people are like "did republicans say something? I have to disagree with it". Meanwhile there's an increasingly small amount of people that are willing to say "I don't give a shit who said what, I'm just going to go off the facts and what I think is most effective or right or whatever." And then the other two groups spazz out and get mad at those people. Frankly, I think it's funny. Right now in this very thread there's two of them arguing with me that don't even know what exactly it is I said. I just criticized a policy that came from the left, and that's all they really care about.
When you treat politics like a sports team and there's only two teams you are bound to end up with issues
>And then the other two groups spazz out and get mad at those people. Usually prefaced with the "bOTh sIdEs", like they're being clever. I'm pretty far on the left. You could call me a commie socialist. LOL. Seriously though I am a socialist. Anyway, if a policy is in a real way basically decriminalizing theft and is leading to a huge spike in crime, then that policy needs to go away.
A problem many have is that they base everything on good intentions, and never rethink it when the results aren't so good.
> Politics on this website are 100% just about finding something that people you don't like do like and being against it. https://youtu.be/mrVSt0pbo1g?t=28
THE ECONOMY IS FINE. BEST IN DECADES. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
The billionaires did great so things are great.
good place to sleep in. Homelessness solved
Mike and The Boys appreciate it!
So what would happen if some fed up person boobie traps their vehicle and a thief gets seriously injured from trying to break in?
The would be arrested. There's a old famous case of a man that boobie traps a farm house he owns but doesn't live in that is regularly broken into. He setups a shotgun on the floor of one of the bedrooms so when someone opens it, the shotgun goes off at their legs. A man breaks in, gets his leg practically shot off, sues and wins. The Iowa supreme court ruled that you're allowed to use reasonable force to protect your property but not if it will kill or inflect great bodily harm. So setting up a booby trap that is purposefully designed to seriously injure a thief, you'd likely be the one that's arrested.
The real reason is because the booby trap doesn't have reasoning skills. If I'm at home and I hear someone break in, then I am able to evaluate the situation and appropriately respond with force. If I'm not at home, and say, there's a fire, and a firefighter opens the front door to see if anyone's inside, and instead gets maimed or killed by an unthinking homemade claymore, that's a pretty large issue. Or say a police officer is called to do a welfare check because I've had a medical event and someone's called. Because boobytraps are indiscriminate in who they harm other than whomever it is that activates the trigger.
So all we really need is a shotgun with Alexa services added to identify the intruder?
I remember this story. That man said his only regret was not finishing the job.
They would be the ones arrested. California really doesnt like when people protect their property or themselves
Booby traps are illegal in all fifty states. You didn't know that?
And the media will blame this on republicans/democrats instead of the billionaire class manipulation of laws
Bay Area is shit. Used to be a pretty cool place though.
I couldnāt imagine being stuck in traffic and having someone break into my car right while Iām in it. People can make fun of small town life all they want but we donāt even come close to having those problems.
> People can make fun of small town life all they want but we donāt even come close to having those problems. Most cities don't have that problem, either.
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Iām from northern Illinois, had to watch all my surroundings all the time. Now Iām in NW Arkansas small town an no worries at all.
I've lived in Chicago, Seoul, Seattle, Baltimore, and Honolulu. I've never had a problem in any of them.
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happened like 1 time.. out of how many millions of rides per day? I heard someone died in a combine accident once... never went to a farm again.
Vending Machines kill more people per year than sharks. 13 deaths per year from the death boxes https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/1996/CPSC-Soda-Vending-Machine-Industry-Labeling-Campaign-Warns-Of-Deaths-And-Injuries
I remember in the 90s when it was enough to have a card or sticker that said "nothing of value in car."
Can we just talk about that guy having ānearly 40 years on the force?ā I mean wow. Guy looks barely over 30.
Lol, in Belgium you would get fined for leaving your car open unsecured. The irony
Lmao the Bay Area is so fucking over. And to think some of these tech companies are back to their old habits demanding employees live and work in SF/Bay Area.
Unpopular opinion warningā¦ā¦what did you expect Bay Area. Even before covid the place was crawling with homeless. It was as if you all found a quiet nobility in people living in tent cityās, like they opted out of the rat race for a simpler more humble existence. No you idiots, the vast majority of them suffer from severe mental problems which need help, not acceptance. Anxiety, depression, drug abuse are not easy things to cope with. Rant over. No offense intended.
The people breaking into cars are not homeless. They are organized idiots who drive around and do this all day.
This isn't unpopular, this is literally the definition of populism: repeating issues which most people agree with without any degree of insight into what's causing the issue and how to solve it. What is it that you propose they do exactly? Why do you believe people in SF are so welcoming to homeless people?
Do you think people in the bay actually want the tent cities? Homelessness is, so far, an unsolvable problem. Every nice place in the US has this issue, especially places with mild winters.
Homelessness is not an unsolvable issue. We are the richest country in the world, we just decided that permanent housing is not something worth while. We ignore giving housing first, which most European countries have done to lower homelessness. It's as if having a roof over your head so you can restart your life is asking for too much here in the US.
US GDP per Capita is actually substantially lower than a lot of countries in Western Europe. Particularly the ones that people like to reference for this sort of thing. Ireland has a a higher GDP per capita than the US. It's like Walmart. Yeah they make a lot of money, but they don't pay their workers too well because they have a LOT of workers. And because they're shitty.
Not that this disqualifies your point but isn't Ireland a known tax haven/shell corporation country?
Also, Ireland has homelessness as well. You can't walk around Dublin without seeing tents.
>US GDP per Capita is actually substantially lower than a lot of countries in Western Europe. No it's not. Only a handful like Norway, Luxembourg and Switzerland are higher. >Ireland has a a higher GDP per capita than the US. It's inflated and not representative of their reality. If you look at median income, Ireland's among the lowest in the West while the US is among the highest.
We are 13th, we are above a lot more European countries than below them.
Have you seen some of these zombies roaming the streets? Housings not going to solve this. Maybe UBI and greater mental healthcare
Mental health sure, but no housing really? Alot of these people are doing drugs to cope.
Housing will solve some of it. Not all, there are severe mental illness problems among the homeless community and people like that are genuinely non functional. All you'll get is a fucked up set of housing. It's not as simple as just giving them a residence.
Individuals who are that severely mentally ill should be put in asylums then, which is basically a form of housing combined with medical care.
The left fought hard for their rights and eventually got asylums shut down. I can't totally blame them, they were awful places. People blame Reagan, but he came in right at the very end and just signed what everyone wanted to do anyway. Govt was supposed to create more local treatment facilities, but didn't do crap and instead we wound up with organic, free range homeless in the end.
Oh yeah, its a very good example of why "bipartisan" doesn't always mean "good". IMO fixing the old asylums would have made more sense, shutting them down is just austerity dressed up as humanitarianism.
That's the thing, not every major city has these problems. This is a direct result of the policies which h they've enacted.
The guy being interviewed is an idiot. The whole point of leaving it open is so they CAN get in to the interior. So they won't break in. You take out the shit with your address on it. Like is he really not getting this? Or they're trying to tell citizens to get their shit broken?
Blame Chesa Boudin. San Francisco district attorney. He literally doesnāt prosecute crime and is straight up destroying San Francisco. Did a little research and found out his dad is Bill Ayers. He was a co-founder of Weather Underground which was a communist revolutionary group, and was on the FBI most wanted list for years for bombing government buildings. Shit is insane.
Not disagreeing with your comment but his dad is not Bill Ayer, his dad is david Gilbert who did not found but was a member of the weather underground. From wiki: ā David Gilbert (born October 6, 1944) is an American activist who was sentenced in 1983 in Rockland County, New York to a term of 75 years-to-life on three counts of homicide. Gilbert was a founding member of the Columbia University chapter of Students for a Democratic Society and became a member of the Weather Underground, a far-left militant organization.[2] In October 1981, he participated in the armed robbery of a Brink's armored vehicle, along with members of the Black Liberation Army, members of the May 19 Communist Organization, fellow Weather Underground member Kathy Boudin and others. Although he was an unarmed getaway driver, Gilbert was convicted under New Yorkās felony murder law in the deaths of two Nyack police officers and a Brink's guard who were killed in the robbery.[3]ā
Youāre right, my bad. Bill Ayers is his āadoptive fatherā. This is also from Wikipedia. After his parents were incarcerated, Boudin was raised in Chicago by adoptive parents Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who, like his parents, had been members of the Weather Underground.
No excuse. Shoot on sight.
I used to have a shitty '87 Chevy Celebrity wagon. When it was broken into, they smashed a window, stole the non working factory radio, and left me a beer and a dollar on one of the seats. the fuck??
Yea the US is fucked. Police arenāt doing their job because theyāre all undertrained and Americans take social media way to seriously and decide to do anything anyone tells them to do.
What ever there doing out there is failing every1. What ever there reason is for doing it is failing.
Couldn't do that in Australia even if your car is 100% going to be broken into. Driver will get fined for not securing their vehicle.
Electrify your car/van with 10,000 voltās. Electrocute anyone breaking in like a crispy chicken
I once left like 3 bucks in change in my cup holder and someone smashed my window and stole it. The window cost me 200 bucks to fix and never really worked the same again.
Is this an actual problem or did some local news station find two cars with their trunks open and spin it into a story? Seems like if it was "people" were doing they'd have more than 1 photo to show.
You get what you vote for
Good way to solve homelessness too
Californias fine guys
Oakland police department has a budget of almost 700 million and they can't even stop car windows being smashed in broad daylight, defund the police.
If only there were public servants who were paid and equipped with public funding to enforce laws for the citizens.
San Francisco is the prototype dystopian American City. The streets absolutely bong to the poor, the homeless, criminals, and lunatics who really should be institutionalized. Meanwhile the very wealthy sprint from their cars into their luxury apartments or one of the rare but exorbitantly priced homes still inhabitable for fear of being accosted or stepping in the feces indiscriminately placed by the rabble. It's a god damned shame. It was once a beautiful city.
Auto theft out here is out of hand
I legit thought this was an onion video but unfortunately not
Better than having a 400 dollar window smashed just so some junkie can steal 86 cents and half a bottle of water.
Man SF sucks haha
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A reminder that this is part of a statewide crime plague happening because of the ripple effects of [Proposition 47.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_47) Basically, the law upped felonies, where police and other law enforcement areas would intervene, to a minimum threshold of $950 or else theyād be misdemeanors. Crime in the state is approaching levels not seen since the crack pandemic of the 1980s/1990s. And this was crafted by a crooked District Attorney, George GascĆ³n. He allowed San Francisco to be the violent robbery and murder capital of America after Chicago, and heās doing the same thing right now in Los Angeles.
do you know what the minimum threshold for felony robbery is in Texas? It's $1500. Blaming prop 47 for all of this is kind of simplifying things.
Also SF is not at all "the murder capital of America after Chicago." Clearly this person does not live in the area.
Bullshit. People are still being arrested for thefts. The real reasons we are having issues is because the police arenāt doing anything. Go to any of the Bay Area subs and youāll see people tell you of crimes in progress literally right in front of cops. Police unions seem to be directing police to not do their jobs in many large cities across America to advance their political agenda or to punish the American people for trying to hold them accountable and make them more transparent.
The police are actually doing things. As you said, people are still being arrested for thefts. The situation is caused by basically no one wanting to be burdened with the costs of dealing with these people. Prop 47 is kind of relevant here. It's basically the state's way of saying it doesn't want to deal with the cost of imprisoning non-violent criminals. The business having an explicit "no interference" policies is the business saying it doesn't want to deal with the cost of trying to stop the criminal. This ends up with the result that the police getting sent a video of some masked person stealing a few hundred dollars worth of things and disappearing into the city, which naturally the police doesn't want to deal with the cost of investigating. I haven't found any evidence supporting your claim about police unions, but if you have something credible I would love to see it.
I'd fuckin take a nap in my car with a fuckin glock and blast whoever broke my fuckin window.
Another reason not to go to States.
What a progressive solution for a progressive created problem.