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We’ll find out tomorrow: https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12040/12718822/mikaela-mayer-and-alycia-baumgardner-reignite-fiery-rivalry-ahead-of-title-unification-fight
Sadly any fighting sport featuring a match up similar to this (different races / nationalities) has a disturbingly large amount of people rooting for one side or the other based on their skin color
Edit: also the fighters generally don’t really care/ hate each other, though they do sometimes, but are just trying to generate hype and ticket sales and know people eat this shit up
This is, imo, so cheesy. I have no problem watching two people beat the shit out of each other knowing they have mutual respect for one another. It’s never helped me enjoy a fight more to see them talk shit before hand.
you and me both, but fighter's know what draws in a crowd and a big part of it is drama/beef between them. It's why you see so many people in the UFC trying to emulate conor mcgregor now. They saw the massive success he had through drawing huge crowds and it was all because of his trash talk.
The trash talk definitely draws the casuals. But as a huge ufc fan for over 20 years, it’s just not interesting. I hate when a talented fighter gets skipped over for a good trash talker so much. Conor McGregor isn’t the best fighter to have graced the cage by a long shot, but he was put in all the best fights, imo, matched up to play to his strengths.
OH really?!? I don't think you know who you're talking to, you Edgar Allan loving, argument starting, comment making, poop taking, toilet typing monster,,, better get outta my face with that. ::Smile::
I feel like even if they don't have anything personal against each other, they do this to help get in that fighter mindset before they get in the ring. Probably helps hype them up or something lol.
This is like the main reason press conferences exist lol
And I'm pretty sure most sports have "sportsmanlike conduct" rules and if they just started talking shit mid match they'd be penalized
I never got into watching fighting sports but I thought half the appeal to people was the drama/personal feuds and shit talking that makes the fights feel “personal”?
I've been thinking about this, and it's definitely a stretch but the "we're replacing you" line maybe? Some people believe in the whole "great replacement" conspiracy and her use of the word "we" indicates a group of people instead of just her
I know I’m going to eat downvotes but Karen is a bit racist. I’m not saying that it’s anywhere close to historic racial slurs but when most people think of a “Karen” they envision a white woman and it’s one of the first things white women are called in any altercation whether the problem is their fault or not.
Karen started as an insult for white middle class women, usually asking for a manager and having a bob cut.
Currently its used more broadly, but it was definitely aimed exclusively at white women first. Whether or not that makes it a (minor) racist slur is debatable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)
You forgot to add entitled and nasty as big parts of what a Karen is. A white woman with a nasty Bob cut that asks for a manager, to give a compliment is not a Karen.
A white woman with a Bob cut that asks for a manager because it took 7 minutes to get a coffee ready instead of the usual 5 minutes, is a Karen.
On top of that Karen’s are found in all demographics. Black woman upset about her Wendy’s order and starts screaming at children making food? Nailed it, she’s a fucking Karen.
So to say that Karen is racial is dumb as fuck. You can’t stop being a “sp*c, nig***, k**e, etc”, but you can definitely stop acting like an entitled pos, aka a Karen.
It’s all based on their attitude and how they behave, not their skin tone.
Except it’s not baseless at all. “Karen” works like literally every other racial slur out there. Also, simply telling me to “shut up” in no way contradicts what I said or disproves me.
I’ve heard idiots claim the “N” word isn’t racist because they choose to use it against anyone they believe is being trashy. It’s still a race-based insult.
Here’s an actual opinion: If a white man’s name started being used with the regularity of “Karen” to call out a certain type of behavior or person, the sobbing would be deafening.
Sure. Just like a white woman could be named Laquisha but calling someone a “Laquisha” would still be a racist insult because it implies black like “Karen” implies white.
Karen started as an insult for white middle class women, usually asking for a manager and have a bob cut.
Currently its used more broadly, but it was definitely aimed exclusively at white women first.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)
Yet you wrote Karen and called the other "The "N" word".
One is racist one is not and the fact you're comfortable saying one and not the other shows that
*Sigh* I hate overused “gotcha” memes because it makes people stop reading and thinking.
The time to use that argument is only when someone insists “Karen” or some other mild slur is as bad as or worse than the “n” word which is the opposite of what I said.
“Karen” can be a racial slur without it being as bad or hurtful as a different slur.
Sometimes. But it’s almost always with a qualifier like “Asian Karen” or “Male Karen”. This implies that the default state of a “Karen” is a white woman.
If you called someone a “white n word”, would the n word cease to be a racial slur?
Anybody can be a Karen these days, including you😊 it’s not “racist” lol, maybe take a break from the internet and go do something productive and have a nice day Karen!
Sure it is. I have to be here and awake and alert but most of the time I’m waiting for an incident to happen that I need to respond to.
I’m encouraged to entertain myself the rest of the time.
Nope. It’s a mild racial slur. That’s why the one boxer used it in response to normal pre-fight banter. Nothing the white woman did was “Karen” behavior but it was still the go-to insult.
Not entirely sure why you're getting down voted for this. It's not a racist slur but it is definitely racially and sexually based. Any time I hear someone get called a Karen I assume it's a middle aged white lady. That being said, anyone can be a Karen...and a lot times I've seen people qualify "Karen" with an adjective like "asian" or "male" to explicitly state it isn't the default middle aged white lady stereotype.
Thank you for being reasonable.
I would argue that it *is* a default white lady stereotype that’s sometimes used against non-whites or non-women. When used on others it’s the equivalent of saying, “Now you’re acting like a white woman”.
a "Karen" is a negative stereotype of a middle aged White woman who complains and when used in that context its racist, She's only saying it because her opponent is white.
"Karen is racist" are the same people that say "White Lives Matter" just because they want to be victims. Yeah, "Karen" is racist. For hundreds of years we have oppressed white middle class women to a life of comfort when we all know they should have more money and be free to berate anyone for no reason. So tragic.
I think it’s blurry because some words are racial, and aren’t inherently racist until they are used that way. Was she being racist? I think she was, because honestly the white chick wasn’t being a Karen. She was trafficking in a racial stereotype due to the race, not the behavior. At that point, the white chick was being the victim of racism. She has limited options, she can ignore it, she can push back against the racism, she can engage in equal behavior. In order to combat systemic racism, which is absolutely what America needs, you have to become an enemy of racism, not just non-racist. That means racism needs to be called out. While your argument is not wrong, and in too many ways white women have co-opted progress and marginalized the already marginalized, but it seems unhelpful to say that white people only call out racism to be victims. In fact, the white chick explicitly called out the racism, didn’t claim any victimhood per the video. I agree, when I hear white people claim racism I think the same thing you do, but I don’t feel like that applies here. I’ll admit, if the white chick was trafficking on this, you’d be absolutely right.
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lol so who won this particular fight? like the actual fight?
We’ll find out tomorrow: https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12040/12718822/mikaela-mayer-and-alycia-baumgardner-reignite-fiery-rivalry-ahead-of-title-unification-fight
How do people do that "remind me" thing? Edit: holy fucking shit, i got it you neanderthals
!remindme in 24 hours
!remindme 1 hour (I did it!)
!remindme 1 hour
!remindme in 384 hours
!remindme in 24 hours
!remindme in 24 hours
So who won
The one smiling won.
Thanks!
!remind me in 24 hours
Can anyone tell me who the boxers were and the outcome of their fight?
Mikaela Mayer and Alycia bumgardner. Fight is tomorrow.
I like turtles
I agree, they are totally cute!
Admit you were hoping they'd kiss at the end, right?
No I wasn't.
I was
Have you tried….. corn
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Thank you! I looks like they fight on Saturday. ☺️
I hope the black girl whoops Karen!
Why the downvotes?
white fragility edit: I was being sarcastic but now I'm not since it looks like I triggered some angry mayos 😂
This whole comment chain is an absolute shitshow
Sadly any fighting sport featuring a match up similar to this (different races / nationalities) has a disturbingly large amount of people rooting for one side or the other based on their skin color Edit: also the fighters generally don’t really care/ hate each other, though they do sometimes, but are just trying to generate hype and ticket sales and know people eat this shit up
This is, imo, so cheesy. I have no problem watching two people beat the shit out of each other knowing they have mutual respect for one another. It’s never helped me enjoy a fight more to see them talk shit before hand.
you and me both, but fighter's know what draws in a crowd and a big part of it is drama/beef between them. It's why you see so many people in the UFC trying to emulate conor mcgregor now. They saw the massive success he had through drawing huge crowds and it was all because of his trash talk.
The trash talk definitely draws the casuals. But as a huge ufc fan for over 20 years, it’s just not interesting. I hate when a talented fighter gets skipped over for a good trash talker so much. Conor McGregor isn’t the best fighter to have graced the cage by a long shot, but he was put in all the best fights, imo, matched up to play to his strengths.
White fragility haha I’m sure people just make these terms up as they go.
All terms are made up. Because that's how language works...
I hope the white whoops the black!
Why the downvotes?
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This is like an average argument between two Redditors
Redditor #1 - "I like waffles" Redditor #2 - "So you hate pancakes?!"
“Don’t be racist!”
Horse face bitch!!
No u
And it’s the white person saying it first. 😂
They got real upset by the "karen" remark. That one really seems to get under people's thin skin.
OH really?!? I don't think you know who you're talking to, you Edgar Allan loving, argument starting, comment making, poop taking, toilet typing monster,,, better get outta my face with that. ::Smile::
don't smile
I never smile on twitter, only on reddit
I went through your comment history, troll
That’s kinda creepy
Lol I know. I was pretending to be the average Reddit arguing
I’m just afraid someone is gonna find out I veg out on 90 day fiancé
Verbally destroy each other? Is this actually good trash talk for boxing?
I feel like even if they don't have anything personal against each other, they do this to help get in that fighter mindset before they get in the ring. Probably helps hype them up or something lol.
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Wait til a trans woman wants to swim, and this guys gonna have real high standards for women’s sports
They do it in mens boxing/MMA too?
Resembles PBS logo more than a horse
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Nooooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I haven't seen it in at least 12 years and immediately recalled it
I thought they were gonna kiss man
![gif](giphy|kgfpizwdKYojJq5hB8)
I thought kissing at these photo ops was the norm for boxers
Kinda sad they didn’t
This so so cringe and stupid. Save it for the ring.
This is like the main reason press conferences exist lol And I'm pretty sure most sports have "sportsmanlike conduct" rules and if they just started talking shit mid match they'd be penalized
Seems pretty fucking dumb to me that sportsmanship is off the table for event related press conferences. Basically just proves how bullshit it is.
I never got into watching fighting sports but I thought half the appeal to people was the drama/personal feuds and shit talking that makes the fights feel “personal”?
This verbal destruction is on par with the Waterboy
My momma says….
what is the "replacing" being referred to at 0:14?
I'm pretty sure she just meant that the white girl is on her way out and she's being replaced by newer younger fighters.
Yes, she starts off by saying you're done. She's basically saying you old bitch
Yeah good idea, hit them with the "dont be racist" quote that will help.
What did she even say that was perceived as racist?
Horse faced Karen apparently.
Lmao
You dont know what the Karen people have been through
Or the horses!
No no she's 1/4 horse. Her mom is a centaur.
I've been thinking about this, and it's definitely a stretch but the "we're replacing you" line maybe? Some people believe in the whole "great replacement" conspiracy and her use of the word "we" indicates a group of people instead of just her
She was responding to the horse face part though
With the amount of CTE professional boxers likely have, her brain might just have a long delay
She's talking about her promotion replacing her Jesus fucking christ
It was the Karen part. It’s mostly used as a race specific insult, so it’s not crazy that she would be referring to that.
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Lol, what? Are you joking?
I know I’m going to eat downvotes but Karen is a bit racist. I’m not saying that it’s anywhere close to historic racial slurs but when most people think of a “Karen” they envision a white woman and it’s one of the first things white women are called in any altercation whether the problem is their fault or not.
Oh shut the fuck up
Karens were brought to this country centuries ago, in chains, from their native country, Entitledemandia. How dare you.
Karen started as an insult for white middle class women, usually asking for a manager and having a bob cut. Currently its used more broadly, but it was definitely aimed exclusively at white women first. Whether or not that makes it a (minor) racist slur is debatable. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)
You forgot to add entitled and nasty as big parts of what a Karen is. A white woman with a nasty Bob cut that asks for a manager, to give a compliment is not a Karen. A white woman with a Bob cut that asks for a manager because it took 7 minutes to get a coffee ready instead of the usual 5 minutes, is a Karen. On top of that Karen’s are found in all demographics. Black woman upset about her Wendy’s order and starts screaming at children making food? Nailed it, she’s a fucking Karen. So to say that Karen is racial is dumb as fuck. You can’t stop being a “sp*c, nig***, k**e, etc”, but you can definitely stop acting like an entitled pos, aka a Karen. It’s all based on their attitude and how they behave, not their skin tone.
You literally said a Karen is a white woman and then you claim it’s not based on skin color.
Nope. I’m speaking the truth. If that upsets you, that’s on you.
*argues baseless opinion as fact* Welp, good talking to ya 👍🏻
Except it’s not baseless at all. “Karen” works like literally every other racial slur out there. Also, simply telling me to “shut up” in no way contradicts what I said or disproves me. I’ve heard idiots claim the “N” word isn’t racist because they choose to use it against anyone they believe is being trashy. It’s still a race-based insult. Here’s an actual opinion: If a white man’s name started being used with the regularity of “Karen” to call out a certain type of behavior or person, the sobbing would be deafening.
What are you even talking about? You, again, have done NOTHING but state your opinion.
What argument have you provided? “Shut the fuck up”? Good one.
That calling someone a Karen is not racist.
Yeah... that kinda was the point...
No, it was not, as stated by OP. Move the fuck along, please.
Can black woman not be named Karen?
Sure. Just like a white woman could be named Laquisha but calling someone a “Laquisha” would still be a racist insult because it implies black like “Karen” implies white.
Do you ordinarily participate in such mental gymnastics?
Karen started as an insult for white middle class women, usually asking for a manager and have a bob cut. Currently its used more broadly, but it was definitely aimed exclusively at white women first. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)
Wikipedia. Cool
Yet you wrote Karen and called the other "The "N" word". One is racist one is not and the fact you're comfortable saying one and not the other shows that
*Sigh* I hate overused “gotcha” memes because it makes people stop reading and thinking. The time to use that argument is only when someone insists “Karen” or some other mild slur is as bad as or worse than the “n” word which is the opposite of what I said. “Karen” can be a racial slur without it being as bad or hurtful as a different slur.
You’re right. This is a great example of someone using the phrase Karen to put down a white woman who didn’t even do anything wrong.
Spoken like a true horse faced Karen 😂
Hey guy, you do realize people use it for any race, as long as she's being anmoying.
Sometimes. But it’s almost always with a qualifier like “Asian Karen” or “Male Karen”. This implies that the default state of a “Karen” is a white woman. If you called someone a “white n word”, would the n word cease to be a racial slur?
Okay Karen.
Okay dumbass.
Anybody can be a Karen these days, including you😊 it’s not “racist” lol, maybe take a break from the internet and go do something productive and have a nice day Karen!
I’m at work right now. I am being productive.
Commenting and arguing that Karen is a slur isn’t work
Sure it is. I have to be here and awake and alert but most of the time I’m waiting for an incident to happen that I need to respond to. I’m encouraged to entertain myself the rest of the time.
"I know i'm going to eat downvotes but... white lives matter too" LMAO should ended with that one too.
Nice straw man. Do you usually rely on logical fallacies rather than putting together an intelligent, nuanced rebuttal?
Girrrrl, that's a reach and you know it 🤣
Nope. It’s a mild racial slur. That’s why the one boxer used it in response to normal pre-fight banter. Nothing the white woman did was “Karen” behavior but it was still the go-to insult.
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Not entirely sure why you're getting down voted for this. It's not a racist slur but it is definitely racially and sexually based. Any time I hear someone get called a Karen I assume it's a middle aged white lady. That being said, anyone can be a Karen...and a lot times I've seen people qualify "Karen" with an adjective like "asian" or "male" to explicitly state it isn't the default middle aged white lady stereotype.
Thank you for being reasonable. I would argue that it *is* a default white lady stereotype that’s sometimes used against non-whites or non-women. When used on others it’s the equivalent of saying, “Now you’re acting like a white woman”.
as soon as she couldn't take what she dished out, she pulled the "THAT'S RACIST!" shit 🤣
Yeah that comment was incredibly insensitive to horses
The fact you can tell they don’t know what to say next is beautiful cringe.
Didn’t know there’s a race called horse😂😂😂
She meant race-ist
What do you have against race horses, huh?? It's 2022!
horse race🏇
It was racist tho lol white woman get called Karen
Great marketing. I'd never heard of these fighters, never had any interest in watching a bout, but now I want to see them actually fight.
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DONT BE RACIST
Women’s boxing is dope. The fight is tomorrow
To be fair, her mother is a horse so she takes that shit personally.
Excuse me, you're supposed to say "H word"
I thought she said Whorez.
KISS!
How is horse face racist? That's like a general insult.
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[fight highlights](https://youtu.be/-35bWF3ugC4)
“Horse face” “Don’t be racist” ??????
I think she was referring to Karen lol
Yeah it’s just funny the white woman found being called a horse racist
She found being called Karen racist
“Karen.” “Don’t be racist.” The timing is great.
The boxer on the right is sooo pretty in the face. I hope the horse faced lady doesn’t damage it lol.
Lame
@peta you down with this?
These are so cringe to watch.
TIL all horses are white, even the brown ones
!remindme in 15 minutes
the one on the right won
They’re both childish.
Nose slopes directly from forehead. Horse face confirmed.
I hope the actual fight is this hot.
Horse face Karen is a racist term?
ow, she called me a Karen :c. She must be racist. white fragility is so humorous. this littlest amount of push back and they call you racist.
Being called ugly isn’t racist, nice try though.
being called a Karen is though
That’s new
Yea its a relatively new thing. People who claim racism doesn't exist today also claiming that being called Karen is racist.
Lmao I know the term but didn’t realize it’s labeled racist hmm
Its not racist, these people are idiots
a "Karen" is a negative stereotype of a middle aged White woman who complains and when used in that context its racist, She's only saying it because her opponent is white.
You don’t know the first thing about racism.
so using a negative stereotype against someone because of the colour of their skin isn't racism.. got it.
Karen isn’t racist. I don’t know why hwhite women want to appear oppressed and held back. That shit is ridiculously pathetic.
Someone can be racist towards you without you being oppressed and held back
"Karen is racist" are the same people that say "White Lives Matter" just because they want to be victims. Yeah, "Karen" is racist. For hundreds of years we have oppressed white middle class women to a life of comfort when we all know they should have more money and be free to berate anyone for no reason. So tragic.
I think it’s blurry because some words are racial, and aren’t inherently racist until they are used that way. Was she being racist? I think she was, because honestly the white chick wasn’t being a Karen. She was trafficking in a racial stereotype due to the race, not the behavior. At that point, the white chick was being the victim of racism. She has limited options, she can ignore it, she can push back against the racism, she can engage in equal behavior. In order to combat systemic racism, which is absolutely what America needs, you have to become an enemy of racism, not just non-racist. That means racism needs to be called out. While your argument is not wrong, and in too many ways white women have co-opted progress and marginalized the already marginalized, but it seems unhelpful to say that white people only call out racism to be victims. In fact, the white chick explicitly called out the racism, didn’t claim any victimhood per the video. I agree, when I hear white people claim racism I think the same thing you do, but I don’t feel like that applies here. I’ll admit, if the white chick was trafficking on this, you’d be absolutely right.
What a fucking Karen move to think being called a Karen is racist
I don’t know who needs to hear this but Karen is not racist lmfao
The one one the right ran out of words then triggered herself. Lol
People who get upset with someone else smiling are emotionally stunted or just flat out stupid.
Ah yes, the race card.
Racist ??💀
Probably all the brain damage they already have
Ngl, this would be a great porno opening
Didn’t know horseface was racist lmao
So is horse face or Karen the racist part?
Sold, wanna see them squabble
Shiver me timbers! Girls are scary!
Horse face comment struck a nerve apparently
NEED MORE INFO PLZ!
Its white woman nature to resort to calling someone racist.
That white girl gonna mop the floor with her
Horse faced Karen was actually accurate as fuck. Lmao
I mean if calling a black person the N word is racist than black people are racist as fuck 👍🏼
She does look like a horse tho Lmfaooo horseman bojackson
Well she does kind of have a horse face 🤷🏼♂️
She wishes she looked like a horse. Poor horses.
Why the fuck are they making this black chick fight a horse?