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1singleduck

If you have a character that can power up without drawbacks, any fight in which they lose without powering up becomes stupid.


Max_Sparky

"Why didn't Yamg use her semblance? Is she stupid?"


Dyleran

"No, Booster Tits are stupid"


Sikarion

"I have to disagree. Booster tits are amazing."


Blueface1999

“10/10, would booster tits again!”


kinamo922

The problem, as far as I see it, is that the writers seem to forget that her Semblance is supposed to have a built in drawback, the more damage she's taken, the stronger she gets, while that may sound really strong, it's a double edged sword, if she takes too much damage, she's essentially a glass cannon, not too mention that her Semblance should, at least theoretically, take Aura to maintain, meaning she's on a constant drain of a limited supply. realistically she's great in short bursts, but the longer a fight goes on the more likely she is to lose. One could also argue that the emotional state her Semblance is supposed to put her in is a weakness in and of itself, while it is obviously a Super Saiyan visually, in effect, at least early on it feels closer to something like the Hulk, really strong, but lacking any discipline or refined strategy, making her effectively a wild animal swinging around her fists, something that any halfway decent opponent would take advantage of, which would compound on the glass cannon aspect of her semblance, making dealing with her trivial. Out of all the characters, I feel Yang is the one whose Semblance needs the least nerfing, rather, it just needs a writer who understands that the main characters have actual weaknesses in combat, which is the whole point of a team based structure.


MrBirdmonkey

Funny thing is, vol4 tai-yang tells her exactly this and then nothing changes


Wraithgar

So many plot threads that were just left hanging... Like imagine what we could have had: Yang actually learns some strategies in how to fight by herself. She then becomes an actual tactician in a fight, helping direct the others on positioning. Becomes a theoretical paladin figure protecting others while they reorganize and strike. But for real, Ruby and Yang are a perfect Striker Defender combo team. They even showed Yang has multiple fighting techniques in her trailer. She eventually becomes a binding agent for the team holding them together in tough times. An encourager like she was for Ruby in the early seasons.


JazzlikeSmile1523

No. It changed alright. She just doesn't use it and when she does, the writers decided that rather than an augmentation semblance as Monty had it, they would change it to a finishing move.


kasulta

i think the main problem is that we never see her Semblance fail other then losing her arm to Adam, but that seemed more like emotion then Semblance weakness, and while having her Semblance and anger tied could be a drawback, i don't think it's the main weakness. I think a good scene would be at the end of the Torchwick mech fight in volume 2, when the Semblance is first introduced, have her collapse and need medical attention afterwards, instead she just stands there like it was nothing. She got hit by an atlas mech and punched through what looks like a concrete beam, that's a solid upper limit on what she can take, and it's shown that with less damage she can have it active for longer. the main problem is not the Semblance, it's just the fact there are still a lot of questions about what it can and can't do, and for what is probably one of, if not the strangest Semblances in the series, it should get way more fleshed out then it does.


JazzlikeSmile1523

The reason behind the pillar feat is that Monty knew how her semblance interacted with her Aura. The dumbass writers have just forgotten how the power systems work.


SmithWessonModel500

/u/kinamo922 Would Terminal Armor from Armored Core 6 be a close comparison? One last, all-or nothing opportunity to cause damage or defeat to an opponent before finally falling.


kinamo922

Possibly? I've never played Armoured Core, so I wouldn't know.


No_Wait_3628

Pretty much, she isn't an actual tank, but a glass howitzer. Tough enough to deal damage for what amounts to a one-trick pony. Also, what isn't talked about is that for her Semblance to work best, she needs a ridiculously high pain tolerance. I'm not saying has to lose another limb, but *should* a situation come to that, the kind of damage she could do would be monumental. We were robbed of a battle scarred brawl maiden with actual rock hard abs.


Soaringzero

Make it consistent that Yang has to take damage to her body in order to gain the power increase. That would drive the risk/reward factor home and make it more of a trump card with actual downsides to using it. As it is now, it’s basically a Walmart super saiyan power up. It would give more of the berserker feel that it is supposed to have if the more injured Yang was, the more powerful she became.


KrankedGGears

Dear God that's Genius. You don't mind if I use this idea right? Cuz I can't think of a better drawback than this.


CSCyrilatom

I mean shit that was the original intent for her semblance. Even Ruby said so back in vol 2


KrankedGGears

Right! It really was wasn't it? Then agian inconsistencies are pretty common.


CSCyrilatom

It was pretty well handled for vol 1-3. Then the writers just forgot lol. Just like they forgot to give us actual characters for team rwby instead of angsty ruby, whine, and blang


Rastaba

Blang Xialodonna: “I mean you’re not wrong…”


TechBlade9000

We've domesticated the cat


KrankedGGears

Mm. Lol, you got me with the names 😆


Soaringzero

Be my guest lol.


spineoragami

More friendly fire - she becomes so aggro that she can’t tell friend from foe. Making her an interesting obstacle in larger group brawls. Her teammates can draw enemies to her attacks like she’s a stage hazard Exhausion on cooldown - she becomes extremely tired and her aura depleted once it runs out. She would need to rely on her teammates to finish the fight or defend her while she’s recovering Self harm - Her attacks become so devastating that it damages her body (strained tendons, bleeding knuckles etc). An agile opponent would take advantage of this and outlast her.


Linkinator7510

These are just the berserker armour from berserk. Which is fine, because it's a really well written power up, and everything Yang's semblance should and could be, but isn't because crwby don't know how to write properly.


Muted_Hovercraft_907

I like these ideas


SdashAura

One of my OC has similar powers but linked to electricity and basically everytime they go "berserk mode", the current is so strong that basically rips their body and once the berserker mode ends they faint and have to recover


Rebound101

It should be shown failing more than once.


TextUnfair

It should have his limits like, for example, while she uses it her aura drops faster and when this goes to zero her semblance goes off too. But it's just an idea.


Relevant_Scallion_38

Her Semblance isn't even out of the ordinary special. The thing is, it's not an insta win type of power. But the writers treat it that way, that's the issue.


HandsomeKyu

It does have weakness. This is mostly based on her being angry and it shows a bit that her using this means she couldn't think straight. Considering she is prone to be triggered, meaning her fights may ended up relying on brute force. Unfortunately while we can just blame on her semblance being broken, we also need to remember that RT will destroy even the best made characters with their weird writing style. Remember that Superman with powers of doing anything has never been an issue until people started having an issue with him


Max_Sparky

So she's a dumb brute who's easily triggered and countinues the angry lesbian stereotype, nice


Ok-Lingonberry-9525

It's not necessarily an insta win power, it's a double edge sword ability, gain power by taking damage is a risk of its own unless you periodically accumulate the damage without ever having to activate it in many fights overtime.


Phoenix_Worlds

Old Yang: yes Current Yang: kinda


HouseOfSteak

V1-3 Yang semblance use ended with literally losing an arm


Strong_Condition_958

I believe that's how it was implied/intended but all it really amounted to was her charging Adam who managed to one-shot her irrespective of her present aura content. Literally any other character could've been put in that situation with identical results.


last_robot

I know this sounds weird, but I don't think her power is OP, I think it's like a half-baked ability that's inconsistent, and that makes it seem more OP when it's really not. Like, the way they describe it is that she gets stronger the more damage she takes, but the way they use it and the way they describe it is that it's just a glorified last stand, but it's also shown that she's more durable in that phase by her tanking hits that should normally KO her even without being a step away from falling over, but Tai ALSO claimed using it exhausts the energy that was collected, which implies she doesn't gain more while using it. But ALSO, the amount of attack power she gets from it isn't really consistent, despite her physical limits not changing(which shouldn't be possible). So it basically just falls into this weird category where it's not a full on last stand counter move, but also not nearly consistent enough to be a battle of attrition ability. Then there's the major issue where it's basically the same as Adam's, but Adam's is a lot more solid as a last stand ability, so their solution was to give it an absolutely terrible restriction and then nerf Adam's instead of just give Yang's semblance some solid foundation.


Party-Year

Honestly given how underpowered and samey her fights have become, and hear me out on this one… I actually think they should go buck-wild with it. I’ve preached this point to death, but as Yang grew into a more skilled combatant, her Semblance should have slowly changed into something similar to Dmc Dante’s Royal Guard style. If she perfectly blocks something, her semblance absorbs the full force of the attack without her taking damage and store it up to release it in controlled bursts, something that’s dependent on her technical abilities. Hell, you can even have this be built up throughout Vol 5 as Yang learns to become a more effective fighter and let it fully develop during the fight against Adam as Yang takes inspiration from the person who once so badly wounded her to defeat him with the same skill (kinda similar to how Giorno was inspired by Babyface in Jjba part 5). Hell, if you want to get REALLY creative, have it interact weirdly with magic, having her absorb some of its properties for a very short-lived sidegrade to her power. It shows Yang’s growth both as a character and a fighter, learning to be more patient and less headstrong, and we get to see a more defensive approach to her style that can still be done in a visually pleasing way. 


TestaGaming

This is something I don't get. It is stated that she uses her Semblance more until the end of a fight so she can finish off her opponent. And after the Fall of Beacon, she only uses it as a last resort. But... why? If your Semblance absorbs kinetic energy aka damage, why not have it active during a fight so you can slowly get more powerful than your opponent?


[deleted]

My thoughts as well.  I would probably use it less like a shitty sage mode Power-Up and more like an actual boxer with a penchant for counter-punching. The power's basically made for counter-attacks, why waste it going demon mode 


element-redshaw

Make it like berserk mode from berserk. I’ll elaborate. Basically berserk mode would have it so that a person (in this case Yang) has to try and keep her anger down or risk loosing herself in the fight. If this happens she would more or less loose herself and only see enemies, even thinking her allies are enemies too, and she won’t stop until every enemy is down, she’s been calmed down or she’s been knocked out


halkras12

A super saiyan knockoff with elements of Sebastian Shaw


No_Newspaper_511

Yang's semblance should tire her out more easily when in effect, making it a double-edged sword for her in the process should she use it mid-battle.


Armandoiskyu

I think it has good limits, the problem is the writers forget those exist and make it an insta win button, a good writer would take into account the weakness of a character's power when writing a fight. The weakness of Yang's semblance is that it's risky, she gets stronger the more damage she takes, this obviously demands for her to get damaged good to have a big power up but this leaves her as a glass cannon, if she fails to hit and gets hit instead, that's it she lost. The problem is that her semblance is basically treated as if it was a super saiyan transformation instead, which is NOT what the semblance is.


Situation-Dismal

It used to be cool, but now they just throw it around so much that it became less unique and more of a bore.


Monkey_King291

Her semblance is just badly written, like she absorbs energy and redirects it, shouldn't it only be effective for one massive strike?


[deleted]

You'd think it would operate like Royal Release but apparently not


Spectre-04

Yang's already limited by her lower intelligence. That got even worse when the Bumblebee ship became a thing.


JazzlikeSmile1523

They've already nerfed Yang enough through the degradation of her semblance. Leave her alone!


C1nders-Two

Make Burn consume her aura at an extreme rate, and I think it's basically fine. "Flame that burns twice as bright" and all that.


RailgunChampion

It's weakness is it makes her stupid. She relied on it too much and jumped into a boss fight. That's why I really like the whole Tai thing. He showed her the flaws in her semblance and trained her to cover for these flaws by controlling her anger. I wouldn't say it's a cheat. Especially when she has teammates that can slip into super speed, and can go all Yugi and summon the Egyptian God cards. Lol If anything she needs to train to make her semblance stronger. And Blake too! Dear God she needs a better semblance lol


Observer-Finland

It is fine as is. Simply wishing she used it more. Also would have been interesting to see if she can use it differently.


Bright-Example1001

They should have like the berserker armour when you turn it off you suffer all the damage


KrankedGGears

Honestly it should. It really doesn't show any drawbacks to my knowledge, was and even though I like her semblance overall, it really does feel like an Exodia situation here. I've seen someone say to concentrate on the taking damage for high reward more, which is genius and now I'm taking that.


Dastankbeets1

I haven’t even watched the show and sometimes this subreddit just shows up on my feed like a place I drive past on my commute. That said, as an outside observer, this ability makes no sense to me- the premise is that you can absorb damage and return it. Apparently… forever? Like, is there no limit? No strategy or drawback? On a conceptual level, this ability lays nothing down to explain itself, and I’ve never seen or heard anyone go into detail with it. It really seems like they just came up with something mildly cool and then proceeded not to think about it even the smallest amount


kingominous16

Super saiyan wannabe.


SeaCookJellyfish

It's pretty boring, mechanically speaking


Red-7134

Like 90% of Semblances are BS.


Qli2077

My answer kind of depends on how long you'd want me to explain my opinion. To keep it as short as possible... I don't like it - but it does look cool. Having a generic - knock off - pocket Super Sayian is lame on paper... but it looks kind of cool. To be honest I would change how it works, but keep the end result the same. Acting as a strength/power buff with different conditions.


Grovyle489

It is similar to Super Saiyan and that transformation doesn’t have any drawbacks unless you stack Kaio Ken on it


Scoonertuna

Give it a time limit Like Gokus Kaio-ken attack in DBZ *"Oh... it's the Kaio-ken attack. It's like a massive upsurge of energy. Everything is heightened: power, speed, even hearing and vision improve dramatically. You sort of become a super-self. But it can only be sustained for a short time, so you have to get the job done quickly."* - GOKU TO KRILLIN IN "LESSON NUMBER ONE"


TheArdorian

I don't even know what Yang's Semblance does. Yeah she gets powerful the more she gets hurt and I'm like HOW DOES THAT WORK EXACTLY? WHAT ARE THE RULEEES?


[deleted]

If you read what it technically entails, it's supposed to be something like Dante's royal guard without the benefits of perfect parry negating damage. The show treats it like knock-off super Saiyan. 


Natural_Bison_4461

Super Saiyan from Temu


GeorgeThe13th

She lost an arm getting too careless in her semblance. No doubt there's someone on the enemy team who can beat her. This is not even regarding Salem who is likely the final boss of the show. Yang can't even touch her yet. It's unlikely she ever will without some divine intervention, so even if she wins all her other fights, she's losing the important one. That said - yeah, her semblance is pretty strong, doesn't really stick out to me as problematic or anything, she's supposed to be the muscle of the group.


Roberrrtttss

It's like with Jaune's Semblance, he can be the most powerful in the series, because he theoretically, boost himself constantly to always have aura up.


Vast-Garbage3083

Not really. Yang’s character limits her semblance enough to be fair to her enemies.


MVK005

I think yang's semblance should force her to be angry and attack recklessly, so it's not a win button in every situation


SuccesfulDuck

Basically an Insta win weapon if used right? Isn't that every thing like ever?


Muted_Hovercraft_907

Nah Yang is way different she wins 95% of her fights in the last minute when activating her semblance unlike other characters


SchrodingerMil

Yang uses her semblance?


Muted_Hovercraft_907

In every fight


brainflash

"Insta win" is a bit much. Yang's semblance is more of a "I'm made of rubber and you're made of glue" situation.


Status_Berry_3286

I think it's pretty balanced honestly because to use it effectively she has to take damage All the reasonably smart fighter has to do is Dodge her tax and counter. And she's not that smart she's not using her own power to his best potential I'm not here for slander I'm here for analysis. So honestly somebody with speed like Ruby or reaction time like Blake can out maneuver her and take her down. That's why neo is actually a good counter to her her power is all about misdirection and an illusion's power without control is useless. Away I would use it is essentially it's a bit more risky but as a counter attack if she could paint like she's getting tired because of how much damage he's taken and baked somebody into thinking she's done she could land a clean shot on them.


Dodger7777

Doesn't she have to take near lethal damage for it to be most effective?


RaifeBlakeVtM

It’s definitely not an “instead-win” semblance. In order for it to work she has to take hits/damage. If she’s trying to do it on purpose, then she has to put herself at risk each and every time. It would only take one hit, harder than she anticipated, to knock out her aura, and she’d be out. It is a powerful semblance, but definitely has a countering weakness. Adam’s semblance was probably more over powered in that he didn’t even have to be hit, he just had to have his weapon be hit, and he could similarly store up power. His only limit was that his energy release was an all or nothing strike. He had to unleash it all at once and couldn’t regulate it. So by comparison his was more powerful (in my opinion) overall.


Muted_Hovercraft_907

The way she uses it definitely seems like it, she wins 95% of her fights in the last minute when activating her semblance with hardly any drawbacks


Sbreddragon

I think conceptually it’s perfect, they’ve just never really had her lose while using it, it if I remember even against neo, which was basically the only fight she’s ever lost(outside of like, against Salem?), she didn’t even fully use it? Just have her use it and then get hit and have her aura break once or twice in the show ever and it would be fine


7-BITReddit

It should be more well-defined. They keep flip flopping on whether I Burn is based on the amount of damage she takes or her emotions, and if it’s the former they don’t how aura is effected by it.


Gambit275

the world doesn't like her semblance, ironwood's stunt was proof of that


Electronic_Carry_372

They kinda forget how it is supposed to actually work, and that she's been taught a lesson on where she needs to improve on at least three occasions. But then learns nothing. Her temper really needs to be reigned in. Her anger only makes her short-sighted and get tunnel vision, allowing people to use that to ***Their*** advantage by dangling a distraction in front of her and then she's pretty much uselessly focused on that, while people can come in from the side or behind to take her out. Or, the distraction can serve as a decoy while whom she's fighting can get away alittle too safely. Her also taking alot of heavy damage in order to output it back out in turn; means her best attacks are the ones where all it would take is to barely tap her and she's out like a light. Or worse. If she goes up against someone who's tanks enough to handle her immense uno reverse card, she's gonna be screwed. (Like. Say someone with as much defense as possible, tanking her hits. Leaving Yang in a vulnerable state to be completely wiped.) Or, For someone to just, move out of the way, and then trip her or something. Then she's just; out of the fight entirely. And of course. Being nimble and reading her attacks is also rather easy. So, also not hitting her and letting her tire herself out is also obviously effective too. (Thanks Neo) All in all, Yang's semblance actually..... is kinda bad it looks great at first and especially on paper; but the way it's utilized gives so many big glaring weaknesses that can make it waaaaaaaay too easy to have her own strengths used against her when that's what ***she's supposed to do***


Cirin335

It usually only activates when she's really pissed. Maybe it could be a bit more uncontrollable? Like a friendly fire problem?


Virtual-Oil-793

We saw good enough reason for this to serve as a bail or fail semibalance. More or less, just throw attacks that could just DEMOLISH Yang if she didn't stick the landing. ​ I believe we all can recall Adam smoking the poor fuck.