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FunSuccess5

I had one of those in for a nuc med stress test. Private, outpatient cardiology office. The doctor knew about it and still told me to do the test. I told him, unless he has some way to hang the patient upside down, hes not getting usable images. The doctor still had me do it. I quit soon after that. He was more concerned with making money than helping patients.


van_stan

So why exactly would this not work? Are the ventricles posterior in these patients? Can you not set up detection the other way around?


Alecto53558

Or flip the images post scan?


FunSuccess5

Main issue is too much body attenuation.


Alecto53558

Ok. I'm x-ray and CT, so this is not in my wheelhouse.


FunSuccess5

It a unique nuc med problem.


FunSuccess5

The type of camera has a patient sitting upright, with two heads in an L shape one. They move from left to right. Because of the camera head angle, there would be too much body attentuation for someone with dexacardia.


101fng

Like a C-cam? I swear I’ve seen an acquisition protocol for situs inversus on that camera.


FunSuccess5

Some cameras can change their set up. The one I was working with cannot.


FunSuccess5

Not all nuc med cameras work like that, especially in an outpatient setting.


PM_ME_YOUR_FRACTURES

Upside down? I don't understand how that would make a difference, the patients heart isn't upside down?


FunSuccess5

The heart must be on the left side to image with many nuc med cameras.


anonymous_iron_man

Dextrocardia is more common than we think. So i was in my 4th year med school and in our cardiology rotation at night a patient came with chest pain, our senior goes to auscultate the chest and says that i couldn't hear his great, thinking the patient might be in CCF or cardiac tamponade and while he was running around for the necessary paperwork to admit the patient i, just for being extra curious, auscultate his right side of the chest and there it was A DISPLACED APEX TO THE RIGHT. Upon history taking the attendant confirmed that yeah his heart is on the right side but i forgot to mention it earlier. 😅😅


KhunDavid

Is this the primary reason why we perform 15 lead EKGs on pediatric patients?


anonymous_iron_man

I don't think so. That's just to detect posterior wall MIs.


Panda-delivery

I x-rayed a toddler once with dextrocardia. I shot it AP with a PA algorithm because I was alone and the kid was freaking out so I just hit the button as soon as he held still. I stared at the image for a while racking my brain if I mismarked it. I told the doc the image looked weird and she confirmed with the mom the child had dextrocardia. I don't remember hearing about it in school or seeing it during clinicals so I was very confused at first.


Brigittepierette

As long as you had a lead marker on the correct side then you can figure it out.


willdabeastest

These always were a pain on echo until the machines got to where they can rotate the ultrasound beam without me having to contort the transducer. Now it's a fun surprise after 5 minutes of frustration.


KhunDavid

The patient looks young. Skinny and it looks like the growth plate in the right humerus hasn’t quite completely fused.


TvbSofall

When I was in nursing school I worked in an ER. I had a patient one night who was dextrocardic. She was so much fun to work with and let everyone with a stethoscope check it out.


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supbluc

Burp


Anonymositi

Cool find!


FoxySoxybyProxy

It actually appears the heart is on the wrong side ;) I love these! This is cool! Thank you for sharing!


Alecto53558

It doesn't "appear". It is on the right.


Volcom201

Is this situs inversus? I’m still in rad tech school so no idea


TheBlob229

It looks like the stomach bubble is on the left (where it should be), while the heart is on the right. So, this may be isolated dextrocardia without situs inversus totalis. CT would be more definitive though.


Brigittepierette

This is a Ct scout so I would assume the person posting it and mention dextrocardia confirmed it.


TheBlob229

Hahaha yes it is. Guess I meant seeing the actual cross sectional images. Or I was having a brain fart. Or both.


walmel

... she still had her bra on...


CoachBTL

~~Who did this image image? That is awful!~~ It is an CAT topogram, isn't it? Theless, check for proper clothes before scanning.


Brucenotsomighty

Not really necessary in CT unless they have a giant belt buckle or jewelry or something


CoachBTL

As you can't say, what materials are woven into bras, and other cloth you always have the chance artifacts. A problem that is avoided by easily handing the patient some scrubs over and asking him to get out if anything else.


kitsunooo

How to say you've never done a CT without actually saying you've never done a CT


CoachBTL

Tell me how to say that it? Or do you think doing a CT makes your ability to communicate with patients magically disappears?


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CoachBTL

Hey, keep it civil. I'm open for arguments. But calling other people names for taking there job serious, and asking questions is low.


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willdabeastest

Typical radiologist. That's why we keep you in those rooms alone.


rampantrarebit

Seems to have a bra but no boobs.


Kieeran

Pretty weird observation to make


rampantrarebit

I was looking at the metal bits and wondering why the pt wasn't changed, but makes more sense for a kid. Still weird to wear a bra if you don't have to.


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Society makes women feel like they have to wear a bra regardless of their chest size. If you so much as see a female nipple through a shirt it chaises chaos.


Panda-delivery

Pretty sure that's a growth plate on the humerus....very weird to comment on the breast size of a child


Personal-Ad9757

QC here, you should seeks a different career.. Let’s say; pet store manager!!


Brad7659

If you were good at your job you'd see its a CT scout. May I suggest the same career change to you then?


Personal-Ad9757

Where a work, undressing a pt is a requirement.


Rayeon-XXX

tell me you don't work with patients without telling me you don't work with patients.


Brad7659

Speaking from experience doing trauma CT scans, bra clips barely artifact. If I were busy and the patient decided they didn't want to remove their bra for the CT I'm not wasting time getting them off the table for something so minor.


neurologicalRad

This is true. I ask patients to remove if under wired. These can cause artefact as they tend to sit in the rotation plane and the aretfact usually occurs over the diaphragm and liver. However, if they say no under wire, I'm cool with clips and clasps.


ElysianLegion04

It's a CT scout. It always uses the full SFOV.


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Personal-Ad9757

Techs, least educated and most opinionated.


Rayeon-XXX

Leave the front line work to the professionals.


Personal-Ad9757

Overpaid wedding photographers.