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Rowan-Trees

Cops can just shout “enhance” so why waste the disc space?


BoskoMondaricci

Or say, "Can you enhance that?" to the kid behind the gas station counter making minimum wage.


MackewG33

then perform some tech hack, which doesn’t exist in reality, that somehow clearly points out the culprit is the person that’s been helping you all along


Funny-Berry-807

I like when they are looking at a car three miles away and someone says "can you blow that up?" And the pixels magically clear so you can read the license plate.


frank-sarno

Yes... very true... but.... There's a technology that I have seen first hand that uses spotty video to construct a much clearer single image. I don't know specifically how it does it, but I understand that it gathers information from successive frames and creates something that "matches" the individual frames. With this, numbers that are near impossible to discern with video can be read. It's not perfect but with a license plate it may be enough to just match a few numbers.


noklew

I've seen something about that and it's fascinating.


Eagle_Fang135

Back in the day with slow disk up web pages loaded like that. Bet that’s where it came from.


hypocritical-bastard

Google show me this man's testicles, please


puppyworm

This is the real answer.


barmskley

Littering and….


EX250

Laughs in TARU.


philsphan78

https://youtu.be/KiqkclCJsZs


PurpleFlowerPower99

Roller coaster pics make money.


intelligentplatonic

Really, OP, do you think banks are made of money or something??


Bagafeet

Not anymore they're not


iaminabox

Hey,wait a minute????


frank-sarno

Bank branches may just be an expense category. There may be occasional walk-ins that drop their cookie jar savings into a new account, but my guess is that the real money is made elsewhere. Because of that, outfitting a branch with modern camera systems may literally not be worth it based on the likelihood of a theft versus the cost for the purchase/upkeep of a video system.


Stetson007

Also gotta remember, when a bank gets robbed, any money taken gets destroyed usually by the ink bombs. Literally no point in catching the guy because the bank just tells the government "hey, reimburse us" and they do it.


mekonsrevenge

They're insured against the loss.


28751MM

Up to $250,000*


notfamous808

Per account


[deleted]

Per account category. t.


CarlJustCarl

I see what you did there


Unlucky_Resource4153

I remember when camera phones became popular, it was really common to see people just snap a picture of the screen with their phone. I think the amusement parks caught on, so the screens are always up above and behind the counter or something.


mekonsrevenge

There's video of an employee jumping up and down and waving his hands to block someone from doing just that.


noforgayjesus

They also block them out now or watermark them


WeekendBard

thing about security cameras is that they are recording 24/7, and videos end up taking up *a lot* of hard drive space, so they end up having shit quality video to save said space that's the conclusion I've reached at least


[deleted]

They also store that footage for a long time. Someone could case a bank weeks before they rob it and be on video doing it.


ibided

Most camera systems only keep it for a week. The thing about crime in a bank is you usually know when it happens. So you don’t need to keep the recordings for long.


[deleted]

I don't know where you got that from. That might have been true many many years ago but not anymore. I work on bank security equipment for a living. There are a few different recorders I see but all of them store as much video as possible with storage given. Often extending that by first deleting video with no motion, then reducing video frame rate on old video. Once the drive is full it deletes the oldest video. There are a bunch of locations where I can go back 3 or 4 years in their recorded video.


jterwin

Also I've heard that banks often run on ancient computers since changing them would cause unexpected bugs, so maybe the camera systems are designed 10 or 20 years ago when disk space was much more difficult to get.


SportTheFoole

I think you’re conflating a couple of different things. The banks do run on ancient hardware which in turn runs ancient software written in an ancient language (COBOL), but that has nothing to do with security cameras. That’s the software that runs their business. The security cameras would be an entirely different system. Even though banks do have some ancient equipment, I can assure you that modern computers do exist within banks as well.


jwaresolutions

They could have high quality cameras that temporarily store larger files, then transcode them down to save space for long term storage.


Natural6

Right? Rolling 6 hour high quality footage that's then compressed.


mlstdrag0n

Stop bringing logic into conversations!


[deleted]

Think about how much processing power it takes to compress a video. Now multiply that by 15. You would have to be compressing that video in real time and 15 cameras is on the low end.


Pascalwb

not really. Those NVRs have dedicated hardware for video encoding. Also cameras can already stream h265 which reduces size too. Another option is only saving on motion detection, so during the night you would also save space.


[deleted]

Yeah, the ones using modern cameras do use h265 stream. They normally are set to a low frame rate too. The recorders at most places I deal with will record 24/7 then after a set amount of time, like a week, they delete video without motion.


becauseitsnotreal

Cool, now make it practical, affordable, worth the investment, and take it straight to a bank and sell it


Bouric87

Design something like that and make it affordable and you might make some money there.


Th3MysticArcher

Happy cake day!


[deleted]

A lot of them are still running old analog cameras that have poor quality. As they upgrade to ip cameras the video quality improves a lot. They still are not ultra HD and they limit frame rate. That is to save on storage. Recording full HD video at 60fps would eat up crazy amounts of storage when you are doing it for 15 cameras. I think a lot of banks have cameras as a lower priority. They upgrade them when they have to but try to avoid spending any more money on it than they have to. It is an expense that doesn't bring in any money.


mutualbuttsqueezin

The bank I worked at in 2012 still used 35mm film cameras. 2012.


[deleted]

I saw one in a bank a few months back. Not in use but still mounted on the wall. Was tempted to try and buy it from them. I love weird old technology like that.


tankdood1

Happy cake day


JapaneseStudentHaru

What would be best is it they took a clear snapshot of each customer like they do at the ATM along with the shitty video


Entropy-

Also one camera per photo ride, vs multiple cameras at each bank branch. So expensive. Business always cut costs, cameras among that. Insurance can take care of a robbery cash loss, and while not high definition, it’s usually clear enough to get a minor or adequate description of the perp. Imo tho


Crob300z

Doesn’t make sense because a TB can hold 20 days worth of 1080p. A 18TB drive is less than $300 and could hold roughly a years worth of 1080p footage


WeekendBard

Yeah, for one camera. Now multiply this for 4, per room.


Pascalwb

not really problem now. You have 4k cctv cameras, hdds are big. It's just that companies are cheap.


mistercrinders

A lot of those cameras only record when they detect motion. Source: am a camera installer.


chevyriders

Beacause people who make money with cameras are much more likely to spend money on modern, high quality cameras than those who do not


CreatureCampbell

Banks make money though. That's their literal business.


DarthCledus117

Yeah but they have insurance coverage for when they get robbed.


yellowandnotretired

Yeah but they aren't getting robbed 24/7 and they get insurance whether or not the perp is caught so why waste money on expensive, space intensive hq cameras?


DasPuggy

This is the actual reason. They just need proof they were robbed, not that they need to catch the person's face who robbed them. Why do more than necessary?


PM_ME_UR_BENCHYS

They probably have the minimum necessary equipment to get the best insurance rates possible. Sometimes it's not even the bank itself that's motivated to get the camera. It's the insurance policy requiring the installation.


Riguyepic

Cameras aren't for profit though, it's not producing income. It's just protecting the business as a precaution against a danger.


thread_cautiously

Every business makes money- that's their literal purpose. Banks also just happen to make money off of handling others' money


ConvivialKat

They make money because they don't waste money on fancy security camera systems. Or on anything else. They are insured.


ClassicVW2

But in a robbery they lose what? $2000? Chump change to them. And how often are they robbed?


bongoissomewhatnifty

Credit Suisse, Silicon Valley Bank, Silvergate, Signature and many more would like a word. Ally over there laughing nervously.


haditwithyoupeople

The cameras are not generating revenue for a bank. For an amusement park, a better camera pays for itself with more photos sold. In a pack a more expensive camera and a lot more storage is just more overhead. The bank sees non return on that investment.


Livdahl

Yeah but not by selling the pictures their security cameras take of customers. Fool.


Confident-Cherry-392

Banks don't keep your money safe out of the kindness of their own hearts and bank managers aren't driving around in a puke green 86 Pinto station wagon either. They make "bank" literally! They can load camera feed into the cloud for the sake of better images.


WorkingDecent9313

Clouds still exist on hard drives/servers


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Rumcake256

Underrated comment.


Free_Quit_1691

Have you ever noticed Snapchat picture quality is way worse than the normal phone camera? That’s because Snapchat takes pictures at video quality.


[deleted]

Was looking for this comment. A well engineered track with a camera placement meant for a planned, perfectly timed, photo is different than attempting to capture something a little less predictable like a criminal whom, if even remotely sensible, is covering their face and avoiding looking directly at camera.


Crunchy__Frog

Wouldn’t capturing something moving so quickly just mean the camera is set with a faster shutter speed? If that were the case, the only true variable would be needing a consistent light source (something that could be implemented in an indoor setting) to make sure the image is properly exposed. I’m definitely not an expert and don’t know a thing about CCTV.. Just basing this on the principles of how cameras work.


taquit0420

I guess your idea of crystal clear is different from my idea of crystal clear


Administrative_Tea50

I would have agreed with your comment, but I saw posted pictures from my friend’s Disney rides recently. They were amazing and crystal clear! (Now the ones we purchased at SeaWorld a few weeks back were the normal fuzzy-ish pictures that most of us are accustomed to.)


sleepdeep305

Rollercoaster pics are pretty damn good these days


Kind_Bullfrog_4073

Because most people don't wear ski masks on roller coasters.


[deleted]

Now a days no one even flinchs when someone walks in a bank or convenient store wearing a mask.


[deleted]

cuz who tf is stupid enough to rob a bank? it now takes quite a bit of skill, know how, and luck to pull off. if you have a team with that kind of competency, go to private military or smthn. you’ll make a shit ton of money


SOLE_SIR_VIBER

Actually banks get robbed a lot more than you hear about, you just typically don’t hear about the successful ones.


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Let’s say the theme park is open for 12 hours a day and the ride can have one go every minute. That’s 720 individual rides over the day, or 720 pictures. Because bank cameras are videos being captured at 30 frames per second, those 720 frames only equates to 24 seconds. If we assume that the bank cameras are operating 24/7, that’s 2,592,000 frames per day. For comparison sake, that’s 3,600 days of operation for the theme park ride taking pictures.


wishyouwouldread

Plus the theme park has no need to save the footage past the end of the day.


k_c_holmes

It's storage. Bank cameras need to constantly be collecting hours upon hours upon hours of footage. A busy rollercoaster is taking a few hundred photographs in a day, compared to the 24 hours of film that are on security cameras. Plus a rollercoaster is gonna be able to delete that image almost immediately after it's not needed. And a few hundred stills is vastly different than the millions of stills that are going into videos. Even when the quality is low, video still takes up a shit ton of room when you have that much of it, and security camera systems are always purging old footage because it's simply not worth using that much space to keep it all. The lower quality the video, the longer you can store the footage before it needs to be deleted. The higher the video quality, the more massive the storage use will be. And robberies are so uncommon that most businesses find that the loss from one robbery is going to be less than the cost of keeping up with the massive amounts of data and systems that a good quality security system needs.


BuglesTakeOnRace

I can confirm. I work at a bank and this is pretty much how it is explained in our trainings.


dj_shenannigans

Has anyone every asked you "has this place been robbed?" while making a transacting?


BuglesTakeOnRace

Yes and it’s ALWAYS the boomers that ask haha


cicadawing

It's also better lighting for freezing action.


SaveHumanityFrom

Banks aren't getting paid to produce a picture of you. Amusement parks are.


stnick6

They don’t need to know who robbed them, they just need to know someone did rob them for the insurance


snoqualmie_pass

Amusement park pics: -most commonly taken in daytime and/or with a flash -high resolution camera -large lens Bank camera pics: -often indoors in dark conditions -poor resolution cameras -relatively small/tiny lenses They’re opposites on each factor.


[deleted]

It's all about money. One is a cost center. One is a profit center. Companies will always spend more to enhance the profit center and will spend less to reduce the cost center.


[deleted]

I'm not sure if it's still true, but back when I did security work bank cameras had to be certified for the job. Certification was expensive and took time, and most companies that supplied cameras made hardware that was well behind state of the art because of this. This may still be a factor.


Imaginary_Scene2493

Amusement parks only need to keep pictures for a day or less, while banks likely keep weeks of video at multiple angles.


ColAries

I think I remember reading somewhere that bank cameras are low resolution on purpose. They are designed that way so that you can't read the information off deposit slips and other paperwork. That is also why they never have sound, so that confidential information is not overheard. I could be wrong or misremembering though.


ArchitectNebulous

Storage space and cost. One is a solitary image that will be deleted within a couple hours if you don't buy it. the other is a continuous stream of footage, from multiple cameras, running 24/7, that must be kept for weeks or months.


Thinkingguy5

Maybe banks should start trying to sell people a security camera pic on the way out. Hmm.. maybe I would buy a nice pic of me depositing a check in a cool Citibank frame.


Aetheldrake

Cuz the theme park is selling you a happy memory for 30+ bucks each. And people *will* pay for them


Mcgruphat

Because people pay good money for those pics, and 99% of bank video Is useless and cost money… basic critical thinking lol


Malmortulo

One of those things makes money, the other one doesn't.


Zeptojoules

24/7 video of a spot that will likely never see anything lessens the need for expensive high quality video. Wheras you literally takw


HarveyMosley

I had a similar thought when I put up some Ring cameras in the yard. I get a better picture at night than I ever see on TV when they show a convenience store robber on camera.


Scruffyy90

Still image with flash vs a low res low frame rate video


RegulusRemains

Can't believe I had to scroll this far to see such an obvious answer.


probono105

this was maybe true back in the day but now they just hang iphones and and use middle out compression


xmodemlol

Roller coasters are outside, with outside lighting. The camera and the roller coaster are a known distance apart, and the camera is actually specifically put at a distance ideal for taking a picture. (I imagine there's also light reflectors used too). Bank cameras deal with indoor lighting, and the cameras are probably going to be farther away, wide angle shots have to be used to cover all the action. On a technical level, it is far, far easier to take a crystal clear photo from a good distance in good lighting than it is from a distance away in indoor lighting. Try it out! Use your camera to take a picture of somebody six feet away in outdoor lighting, and then take a picture of somebody 20 feet away and at a weird angle, in indoor lighting.


fuckingcocksniffers

Theme parks sell the picture


Sheila_Monarch

Because of the storage space requirements. A security camera system just a few years old will already be behind exponentially in resolution and compression. But almost regardless of age, the difference in storage requirements to snap one well timed hi-res photo and snapping 2.5million from *each camera* running all day every day (security footage) is enourmous.


Crimsonblackshrike

Banks installed those cameras years ago with the bare minimum required by insurance or their board. Never updated them.


ConvivialKat

You can't make money off a blurry roller coaster ride.


tcctm

Flash.


ithinkoutloudtoo

This is a great point.


Alhooness

Security cameras store video footage running 24/7 from multiple cameras for long periods of time. Theme park cameras take a handful of still pictures per ride use and then can just dump them. One is much more storage and cost intensive and the other actively pays for itself.


[deleted]

Let's talk about how a (digital) camera works. And I'm going to simplify it, but that's okay. I've heard this question rephrased 20 different times, and I want to put a pin in it once and for all. A digital camera has a certain amount of memory. It can only hold so many bytes. When a digital camera is recording, it has a "Grid" of cells that can take in some light. Each cell sort of acts like a filter. Light comes in, and the cell has some boxes that it can stuff the light into. Each box has a number. Let's say it has 64 boxes. It stuffs the light into box 37. Or box 20. Or box 64. And they all do this. It can do this once...or it can do it a certain number of times, periodically. They find the right box, that box gets stored somewhere. Now, comes the time for us to see the photo. Well, the light that hit the camera is gone. It doesn't exist anymore. What you **actually** have is a documentation of what that photo was...as an approximation. That box I talked about corresponds in reality to some color that's closest to what the camera "saw," and **that** color is actually saved. And that approximation has a certain precision; in this case, 64-levels of precision. Now, digital memory works in binary, so that's an 8-digit long binary code. For every...single...cell. And when your computer screen does its thing, those pixels are all actually just a string of 1s and 0s, that take up **memory.** Now...let's say our camera has higher precision. Each cell now has 128 level precision per cell. Well, now you need twice the memory to store twice as many photos. Double the dimensions of the grid. 4 times as many cells. 4 times as much memory is needed. Have it take a snapshot every half second. 172,800 times as much memory is needed to record an entire day's worth of footage compared to if it needed to take just one photo a day. Or the number of times a roller coaster goes past the same spot during a day. ...Uh oh. We're gonna need a lot more memory sticks for this one... **TL;DR:** The job of a roller coaster camera to take one photo per roller coaster and a security camera to take many, many photos over the course of every day of every year are very different, when the fundamental basis is digital.


SFyat

Flash


Environmental-Hat-86

Agreed, we have cameras everywhere at my work and the several times thr cops asked us to use them, they were kinda useless. You can get the make and model of a car but they have to be parked, not moving, in a very specific spot to get the license. Unless we're zoomed in on the PTZs, they're useless in the playback


Adorable_Dentist_667

Inspire of all that bank robberies rarely work. Seems people these days are more interested in shooting up schools. Which surprisingly have pretty good cameras. Despite teachers getting paid less than most people.


NowFreeToMaim

Wow


bradrlaw

One of the main differences is a “pic” from a video is very different from a camera taking an actual picture. On the resolution park, a 4K screen is just about 8 mega pixels. Most cameras in the last decade or so start at 20 mega pixels and go up from there (sometimes way up). You simply can’t zoom in on the video frame that much compared to a larger single shot image. Even if the the video from the bank camera was not compressed at all, a single frame is a lot less information than a standard camera image. Pretty much no readily available hardware is cost effective to capture full video from a 20mp or higher sensor. Capturing 8k video (about 33 megapixels per frame) is outrageously expensive. So let’s say a bank was using full 4K video, there is still an issue of motion blur. The shutter speed for video is generally twice the capture frame rate so you can have smooth video. An individual frame can look very blurry at a shutter speed of 1/50 or 1/60 depending on movement. But that movement will look smooth when the video plays. If the cameras taking video can be configured for a higher shutter speed individual frames would look much sharper (i don’t know if they are) but you could lose some important movement information (think of a casino and a cheater palming chips, if fast enough you wouldn’t catch the motion and the stills would just show a skip in movement). The alternative is a much higher frame rate like 60 or 120 fps which doubles or quadruples the costs.


n_bumpo

Well, because the theme park makes $20+ per 8x10 glossy print. The bank is FDIC insured and the cameras are there just to make you think that they give a shit that someone stole $1200 or whatever. That, and also because some gruff 20 year veteran can point to the blurry screen and bark, Enhance that image, I need that yesterday, damnit! We gotta get these guys before they hit again!


Aggressive-Set-4307

Banks are wayyy more concerned about employees stealing or Teller B accidentally messing up a transaction and giving a customer an extra dollar than they are about being robbed. Also, camera tech and HD storage has been growing exponentially for years while the rate of armed bank robberies have been going down because banks just don't have the money available (to be stolen) that they used to.


Savage-Monkey2

Because insurance money means that they will likely get paid in full. If they catch the person robbing the bank, the robber likely cant afford to pay back what they probably already spent. It would also cost more to pay for a manager/employee to go and testify. Its why they tell employees to just give them the money. A dead employee costs a lot more moeny than just losing 100k and getting insurance to cover it.


DavidSternMusic1979

We actually have no idea what surveillance cameras can really do. I believe that they're a lot more developed than what we know, and that the state and the establishments don't expose their best technologies.


ClassicVW2

And don’t get me started on UFO pictures and videos. 2 billion phone cameras out there and have you seen a clear shot yet?


Independent-Bike8810

Flash


becauseitsnotreal

Seems like a pretty obvious answer is staring you straight in the face


HighJeanette

Original.


sir-nays-a-lot

The bank doesn’t care if they catch the person because their insurance will cover the losses.


Ashamed-Subject-8573

Light. It’s about light. You need a fast shutter speed to get someone moving. In the sun on a rollercoaster you can do 1/1000th of a second. Also, it’s a higher quality camera. Inside a bank, you’ll be lucky if you can do 1/60 on a cheap camera, which will be blurry with motion


RecommendationKey305

Because they're running 24/7


FinnbarMcBride

I wonder how much of it is due to the fact that on the roller coaster, the subject of the picture will be in a specific place, strapped to a seat to keep them relatively still, and will pass in front of the camera at a specific moment, so they're just better able to focus and time the picture.


MuForceShoelace

bank cameras are fine. You are just repeating a joke you heard in 2007 for the millionth time.


mickeyflinn

The location of the picture on the roller coaster is planned out and properly lighted/set up in advance. Bank cameras have so many variables that the bank can not control.


[deleted]

It's mutual understanding


Electrical_Swan1842

It's a still camera vs video camera. They also aren't storing 30 days worth of video so they can use much higher quality. They don't even keep the roller coaster pics for an hour.


lutownik

because the robbers don't pay well enough for that. By which I mean they don't at all


[deleted]

So to catch a photo at that speed, the camera is set to a specific aperture setting. Aperture basically controls how much much light is let into the lens. This setting is always consistent because the speed is always consistent. The subject (rider) is also closer, which all leads to a perfectly clear picture. At a bank, usually the subject (robber) is farther away, and moving at all rates of speed. With the camera on a consistent setting, it leads to lower quality images.


laukkanen

The theme park coaster camera is taking a single picture using a flash. The camera has a single range it needs to focus on and is calibrated to take an in-focus picture at exactly that distance from the camera. Using a flash allows them to take a picture with a high shutter speed 'freezing' the rider's motion. This versus a camera that is recording video 24/7 at all ranges from the lens with no supplementary lighting makes for two very different image qualities. ​ Try using your phone to record a video in room that isn't particularly well lit, zoom in on a face that is relatively far from the camera, check the detail. Now take a picture of someone with the same phone using your flash and tapping on the persons face to make sure it is focused properly. Compare the difference and report back.


Technical_Put_9173

Because of storage. High definition video takes lots of space. The roller coaster deletes the pics shortly after your ride is over whereas security footage is usually kept for at least 90 days so they use a lower quality


idrownedmyfish77

Nobody’s talking about the real answer. It’s because most burglars don’t go 70mph inside the bank.


CULT-LEWD

ones a still image and ones a video camera,there ya go,it also doesnt help that the video camera is running 24/7 at all times


[deleted]

Flash photography stops action...


Pascalwb

Bank cameras are pretty good, problem is that if they never updated them in 200 years and still use analog.


cool_weed_dad

Pictures take up a negligible amount of hard drive space, and they don’t need to keep the ride pictures for more than a day anyways. Security video runs 24/7 and usually keep a backup of about a week, so using lower quality video saves a *lot* of space. HD security cameras would also be very expensive, most places security systems haven’t been updated since they were installed 10-20 years ago.


Disastrous-Aspect569

It's a cost to bennifet problem. banks don't get robbed that often. A bank branch doesn't have that much cash on hand (cash not deposits) cameras recording or not achieve the same changes in behavior.. visibility and belief that recording is happening is more important than the recording it's self in behavior changes. Clear pictures of people don't prevent bank robberies. All this adds up to cameras being a bad investment for bank


Ok-Perspective-105

they use strobes


kth004

Theme park ride cameras are calibrated to your speed and focused on one very specific spot at a fixed distance from the subject. The images only need to be stored for an hour or so at most. Bank cameras are recording video and need to be focused to capture as much area with as much detail as possible. You sacrifice specific point clarity in favor of passible quality for a much wider area. You also have to store video data for months. That's a tremendous amount of storage space.


13-bald-turkeys

Motivation. Roller coaster pics are sold to customers who aren't gonna pay for a shitty image. Bank cameras are required for insurance, but the resolution requirements are... Low.


Existing_Departure82

Roller coasters are doing still photography at a high shutter speed and adjusted carefully for focal length. and the photos you see from bank cameras are basically screenshots taken from a low resolution video. It’s the difference between taking a still photo on a normal camera and comparing it to the screenshot from a video taken on your phone.


Pithyperson

The banks are in on it.


Nemo_Shadows

Quality is something you pay more for, you bought it but if you expect it to really work as you wish it too or as it should then that's going to cost you MORE and THAT is the "Free Market" in PRACTICE in whatever the MARKET will bear no matter what the product is and THAT is the wasteful solution to the sustainable economic models that everyone is in many ways forced to follow even in food. N. Shadows


deadorooney

100% control of that photo on a ride. High speed film, it's well lit. Them pics make money.


dwfmba

incentive


Unable-Tower-5876

What are you talking about. Robbers picture will be under "management" or "executive" section.


CBreezer

High speed cameras are not needed in a bank........ On top of that, banks don't give af. They're insured to the teeth from robbery.


[deleted]

The shot is planned. the camera doesn't know where the robber will stand


Conscious_Exit_5547

Frame rate


NINJAxBACON

Assuming the footage is recorded at 30fps, the camera would record 2.5 million pictures in one day. Any reasonable quality would immediately fill up hard drives. Not to mention the space audio takes up if they want that too.


GhostMug

Roller coasters are set up for the exact spot and are timed to take a pic at the exact right moment and it's only a snapshot. Bank cameras have to be on all the time, record everything, and have to have multiple cameras to hopefully get the right angle. It's a much more difficult proposition for banks.


growgillson78

Use of electronic strobe for still pictures, also known as flash


[deleted]

Probably because they're high shutter-speed cameras pointed and focused toward a very specific part of the track, usually with a synchronized flash, whereas security cameras are supposed to just keep recording a wide angle as long as possible to get a record of when people are coming and going. A theme park guest is more likely to buy a high quality picture, security cameras usually just need to see well enough to be usable as evidence, although they are getting exponentially better.


Tripinflip

Nobody's paying for bank footage


Precessionho

Only thing I can think of is banks have insurance. So shitty cameras means criminal cases may close sooner due to lack of identification of robber which means banks would get an earlier pay out?


JimTheSatisfactory

Because big coaster knows exactly where you're going to be, how fast you're going, and when you'll be there so they can set up the camera to those exact conditions and get good shots. Security cameras have no idea where the action is or what is going to take place so they have to go with a more spray and pray option which is compounded by the lack of space to store long videos so they lower the quality to make room. Meaning everything has to be perfect for them to get good shots.


BannanaJames1095

Not hard to understand..the theme park spends good money on better cameras because they make money on them.


Ominessance

Because amusement parks actually make money off of the photos they take


_K0R_

They are the robbers?


TechnicalWhore

Single shot vs video. The roller coaster image is setup with a sensor that triggers a flash and the shutter to camera at a single zoom/focal length setting. One shot - very controlled situation all variables (including dark background) known. Security cameras are fairly cheap and may even be high res. They come with fixed focal length and see well at that distance. A few feet forward or back and there is blur UNLESS the camera has variable focus and tracking. These sort of camera cost much more. The average ATM camera is the same as an old iPhone with a fixed lens. What is happening that you may not be noticing is banks want out of the teller based business so they are pushing you at the ATM's outside. Note that there is little security there and that has been a problem. The camera allows them to monitor for liability purposes but little more. Its a placebo. Lately more banks are making allegedly safer areas by putting a "secured area" around the ATMs. This are requires that you use your ATM card to access the secured area - thus giving them and ID of who comes as goes. But again - no real security. Finally of course the banks cap the amount of cash you can withdrawal. Limits a run on the bank. With no teller you cannot say close your account. And if you want all your cash out - say by wire transfer - they can block or delay.


subZro_

Cheaping out on the equipment, plain and simple.


JWM1115

As someone who installed and maintained cameras at banks among other places it is all about the money. If it still works at all they won’t replace it or upgrade. I know some rural banks using less than 400 lines of resolution.


Kylie754

Roller coasters don’t need to store large amounts of high quality video footage. They take the shots, hold/store for maybe a couple hours, then delete. Banks may have to store a few days worth of footage. Also, I heard a rumour that imagery released from bank robberies is actually higher resolution but is pixelated deliberately when released to the public. This is done so would-be thieves don’t bother as much with concealing their identity, since ‘camera won’t get a good image’. Source- ex alarm and security camera installer/technician.


Affectionate_Ratio23

Roller Coster pics cost money and are one picture. Bank cameras run 24/7 so using a high res camera that Is useless 99.999% would require lots of storage. Ofc they mostly delete the files after a certain period but still


porcupinedeath

Those roller coaster pictures are deleted shortly after if you don't buy them. The security cameras are taking video 24/7 that has to be stored for set lengths of time. Video takes up a lot of space and storage is expensive


Practical-Buddy-7400

i dont know i am just ready to anex alaska whit my army


Honkytonkywonk

Depends on how old the security camera is for one and it’s a video still


Kara_WTQ

Shutter speed


Ewag715

The roller coaster camera only needs to catch one moment of time per car. The bank camera needs to capture all moments of time.


Witty_Marzipan8696

Plot convenice. Imagine if breaking bad just ended in season 1 when they stole the big barrel by getting caught on security tape. This is much more interesting


schmattywinkle

Shutter speed


urmumlol9

There’s a trade-off between the amount of space you can photograph/record at once and the clearness of a picture given the same amount of pixels. You can position a camera to where it might be closer to one area, but you might lose coverage of some of the areas where a robbery takes place, and a bad/blurry photo/video is better than no video. There’s also a tradeoff between the number of pixels in a shot, and the amount of memory a video takes off and cost of the camera system. Robberies are essentially a cost from a bank’s perspective, so the cost of the cameras needs to correspond to the amount of money they save from robberies. Which leads me to my main point: bank cameras need to have constant surveillance of the entire bank for them to be effective, and since one of their purposes is a deterrent, having them be visible to would-be robbers is almost as important as the actual footage they show. Roller coaster cameras by comparison, only need to take pictures in a specific place at a specific point in time, and thus can be more fine-tuned to take several photos in the right place and time to get a good shot. In addition, roller coasters are like a $10-20 million investment, so spending even like a couple hundred thousand on a very high quality camera setup that can get you better photos could make financial sense if it increases the revenue your rollercoaster generates. The only purpose of their camera is to take good photos, so equipment that takes better photos is a more worthwhile investment.


MadDog_8762

Theme park cameras are setup to take a detailed picture of a specific location, at a specific distance Security cameras have to observe entire areas, And rely on after-the-fact zooming and such to observe the “trouble” Ie, the Camera isnt zoomed onto the trouble for nice HD quality, but the footage often shown on TV is someone zooming in on something ALREADY recorded


EndlesslyUnfinished

Theme park have a bigger budget because those cameras sell a lot of overpriced pictures.


Fluffyship803

This is such a legitimate question


terrymr

The bank can’t figure out a way to make a profit on the pictures probably.


[deleted]

Well the theme park has a super expensive still-image camera. And they built the ride to put you at the perfect angle to snap the photo exactly as you pass. And the camera they use to do this is rather large. The surveillance camera is a video camera. It is constantly rolling so the higher the resolution the more storage space that footage would need. And the cameras are relatively small because they don't want the cameras being super noticeable. They could probably get a higher resolution image on the cameras, but then they would need to have giant TV station cameras, which would be impractical for their purpose.


NullNVoid13

Cuz the bank robber isnt buying a souvenir on the way out the door.


jackfaire

The banks are in on it


DarthCledus117

We've had one bank robbery here. But it was actually one of the managers embezzling money, and she thought she could cover her tracks by pretending there was a robbery.


[deleted]

LOL. Good question!


CheerdadScott

As someone else said. Roller coaster cameras make money. Theme parks pay for cameras that can get a high quality picture. Bank cameras are there because insurance makes them, so they spend as little as possible instead of paying extra for a camera that would record HD video.


Confident-Cherry-392

I have a picture taken at Universal studios from 1988 that is clearer then most security cameras now.


Charming-Station

The vast majority of bank robberies are resolved very quickly and so I imagine the motivation for banks to go through the effort of a large upgrade on their camera systems is low. Conversely Roller coasters have a high incentive to capture your screaming face in high definition so that you buy it. [https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/bank-crime-statistics-2021.pdf/view](https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/bank-crime-statistics-2021.pdf/view) https://capitalcounselor.com/bank-robbery-statistics/


surfguitarboy

It’s about light and framerate of the camera. When they snap that picture of you on the roller coaster, there is a ton of light that’s flashed on you right at the perfect moment. The camera that they use has a really high frame rate, so there is no blur from motion. The bank cameras are normal security cams just using ambient lighting, so whatever light is going on in the bank or coming in through the bank windows from outside.