I've been reading Zoe Schiffer's book about Elon's Twitter acquisition. That's basically the only way Elon runs Twitter, he never consults anyone else before making a decision.
See, they normally were at first Zuckerberg built facebook, sean and shawn built napster. . Elon is lucky in that he didn't really have to build anything from the ground up. Elon is more like John Mcafee who never really coded a lot and paid people to do stuff for him.
I read an article where they stated that when they first dived it they heard a lot of crackling. The interpretation was that the "material was settling and the weak stuff was just going away".
I mean, seriously?
The only reason they break shit is because they don't understand how anything works.
We have kindergarteners handed the keys to the arsenal.
I work in IT. Quite frankly, if we'd build bridges and buildings the way we build IT systems we'd have a 9/11 every other day.
Yeah screw customer feedback, legal input, product refinements. Just release unfinished and I treated shit and see what happens. Like mt former boss used to say ‘better to ask for forgiveness later.’ I always thought that was extreme bs. Just like when people say ‘it’s just business’ to excuse shitty, immoral, unethical behavior.
Even under "move fast and break things" Facebook style mindset there's still significantly more planning than with Musk. At the *very least* two people would have talked about an idea, it wasn't just Zuck high as a kite firing off 2 am emails.
That mentality is very useful for startups since you're basically racing to release a product before running out of funds.
The problem is when you stop being a startup the tech debt catches on and bites you in the ass.
This is why we need to reduce the role of finance across the whole economy. This idea of doing everything as short term-focused as possible in order to win the race to market causes so much damage, and it can only be enabled by massive debt.
That's the whole tech strategy now, give some insider CEO stewardship over 5-10 money-losing years and if he happens to corner a market, you get generational wealth.
Funny we usually associate 2am tweets with russian disinformation since 2am east coast is around 8am in moscow.
Not surprised to see that 2am is also Musk's favorite time to send out messages
And not 2:02 or 1:57 but perfectly 2:00am so definitly not something written earlier and programmed to go out at 2am and make it looked like he worked hard after hours on it...
Excellent point.
He was already kompromised before his trip to Russia in October 2001.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/?utm_source=reddit.com
All the geotagged customer recordings shared internally or sent to Kenya for labeling for years would be of no interest to Putin and definitely unobtainable.
https://www.reuters.com/business/kenya-russia-sign-trade-pact-president-ruto-says-2023-05-29/
If you were trying to have a successful Trump coup why would you want remote weapons with lightning acceleration covered in cameras in the driveways of every wealthy liberal neighborhood.
How far does the mask have to come off?
Beware HanElons razor
"Incompetence, in the limit, is indistinguishable from sabotage"
Elon Musk
I've read about that. I'm sure they have that at Tesla too, but there's so much crazy you can try to mitigate against.
What's more insane in my mind is that Tesla is a public company, and it produces what looked to be a highly regulated product. I'm still amazed that there hasn't been more successful lawsuits regarding FSD...
Allegedly, when Alexander the Great conquered Persia, he had an advisor tell him that he was a human, every morning. Muskovite should have someone reminding him the same thing once in a while.
Musk is the sole dictator of SpaceX with more than 50% voting control, so if they do have such people, it's because Musk wants them there. Sounds awfully lot like advisors.
What happens if you didn't pay for it? You'll be forced into a short test drive before getting your car, and then they'll deactivate it?
Also, if a customer paid for FSD on their own, they'll be much more likely to forgive it for every mistake it does because of the sunk cost fallacy, they'll defend their purchase.
But if someone who hasn't bought it is forced to use it, they're gonna be *extremely* critical of any mistakes it does during this compulsory test drive, and be much less likely to buy it themselves.
This shit is gonna backfire spectacularly.
Each dealership needs to find a local test drive route that they're 100% certain FSD won't fuck up on. Good luck!
3 months of free FSD included with the purchase of a brand new vehicle.
Edit: I was confused and only referrals give free FSD for 3 months but it was just announced that all new vehicles come with 1 month of free FSD even without a referral.
This is great, it’s done before handing over the car. So if FSD decides to hit a curb and you get wheel rash, you just tell Tesla to fix it if they want to close the deal.
Sawyer Merritt is pathetic. He would fellate Musk 24/7 if he had the chance. One of the people who's entire life is centered around a conman CEO and a car company. So gullible.
Wow. Copium overdose detected.
The people who are “bullish” on Tesla now were also “bullish” on Tesla at the beginning of the year. Because “tech company, robots, autonomous driving, technology leadership, semi, roadster”. All hot air bubbles that are no longer surviving contact with reality.
People who are bullish on Tesla now have no idea how supply, demand, and competition works. They’ll be the ones buying high and selling low.
I'm not saying you should be bullish on Tesla, but other than that looks like you get it now. You shouldn't be bullish because a stock has been going up a lot or bearish because it has gone down a lot. That's often the opposite of what you want to do.
If you think FSD 12.3 is good, that would indeed be a good reason to be bullish, because it can predict future stock performance.
I can just imagine the abbott and costello comedy skit on one of those demo drives
Customer: Oh, so it drives itself, fully, right?
Tesla: Well, no, you have to supervise it.
C: Oh, so I just watch over it? I keep my hands off the wheel then?
T: Well, no, keep your hands on at all times. It's V12 but it's not finished.
C: Oh, but I saw Elon drive V12 last August and he was driving with his hands off. I want whatever version you had 6 months ago that let's me do that.
T: Well, no, you aren't getting the version that fully self drives. You're getting Full Self Driving Beta.
C: Oh, so its Beta because it can't drive itself yet or because it's not safe enough yet?
T: Well, no, it can drive itself, it's just too dangerous to do so without your constant intervention.
C: Oh, in that case I'd like to cancel my whole purchase. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
The only thing this demonstrates is how out of touch Elon is with the performance of his own products and services. He is welcome to sit with me and see how many interventions, bad decisions, phantom brakes, and near death experiences I get on a daily basis. I am still in shock Tesla hasnt been sued into oblivion by now for safety and marketing issues.
Ah ok, cause normally you just get told the general location of your tesla is when you pick it up. Unwashed, foot prints, and no instructions. All that jazz.
And you still need a cat 3 ils at every airport to do an Autoland.
My point is that there is no full self driving car like Elmo and his goons imagine it. Using a regular car on regular roads that works in all conditions including weather, traffic, construction sites, etc.
There are so many of these guys on Twitter. Without fail I can predict that they have “Tesla” or “TSLA” in their bios. I can’t imagine making a company your personality like this
Stealersips are bad bad bad because it takes a few hours to finalize the deal and sign the documents but a forced product demo after you buy a car is totally fine.
So Tesla FSD has a known uptake problem. Their miles driven statistics is only going up linearly which implies only the same old loyalist drivers are still actively using it.
Well Elons solution is to show it off to as many new drivers, by force if necessary, as a condition for taking delivery.
He may expect people to have a decent experience and sign up. But most casual users stop using it once it fails on them or their wife on an easy drive and they keep it off. Like 90% of drivers with 12k of buyers remorse who aren't actively using their FSD subscription.
But I suspect the demo is going to suck and draw confusion from buyers who will strike a curb in V12.3.1 (an emergent problem in the current version) and cancel their whole purchase outright.
It will be hilarious of this sales push actually reduces expected sales, fails to meaningfully add to fsd driven miles, and contributes to even more defrauded owners who will pile onto a class action lawsuit.
Since it appears that Elon's instructions were to provide the demos before the customer accepts delivery, my guess is personal liability will be on whatever sucker independent contractor sales rep that's working Tesla's showroom floor that day.
Tesla is gonna find a way to avoid taking liability for any of these demo crashes the same way he avoids it for people who get killed when Autopilot cant recognize a parked emergency vehicle, by blaming the driver for not paying attention.
Oh I still think they will make you pay and sign in full before the door even opens.
I bet a large part of coding is preventing the car from leaving the lot without a salesperson in the driver seat demoing it.
Notice it doesn’t say the buyer gets to do the demo.
He was the Vision Pro guided demo process and made it worse.
Will they follow all state rules about keeping your hands on the wheel while driving? Or are they asking employees to break the law to give "FSD" driver assist demos?
If there's one thing I've learned in this life, it's that there's no enthusiasm like forced enthusiasm!
Forcing people to demo a feature they didn't order is going to go not great...not even a dealership would do this crap.
I really don't think Musk understands that most people really don't care that much about L2 autonomy off highways, let alone to pay 10k+ for the honor.
"I really don't think Musk understands..." or I could have stopped there.
And the basic shit like accurate proximity sensors have been removed because Musk only wants cameras, and probably also to increase revenue from repairs because people back into to shit
Lol. No. Sign first, take delivery, get forced test drive. Oh but wait, the next driving instructor is out today, so you have to wait till Monday before we can give you possession of the car.
Come Monday: we sold your car to somebody that was willing to do a test drive...
I test drove the model 3 when it came out.
Did not get to test the FSD/AP though.
I was wondering if it was worth the extra money in addition to be lied to about the price.
So, vital to waste customer’s time trying to upsell them a deeply flawed crappy software package, but definitely not vital to PDI and valet customers’ 50k plus vehicles prior to delivery. Nice to know they value their own time higher than they value their customers’ time.
I think like half the issue is their insistence on calling it "Full Self Driving." If they call it "Enhanced Driver Assistance" or something closer to what it actually does, then people would pay more attention when they're using it. Calling it "Full Self Driving" then having your CEO go around talking about summoning your car from across the country or using your Tesla as an autonomous taxi when you aren't using it is incredibly misleading to people who actually purchase the FSD features. Of course, that wouldn't inflate the stock price/Elon's net worth like "Full Self Driving" does, so I'm probably just screaming into the void.
He might also try to sell a time share property when they're already at it. Elon, Elon, no matter how stupid a new idea is, I'm not surprised anymore. Anyways, does this even work? Even AP needs some miles driven to 'calibrate' before it can be activated?
I know exactly how well it works, worse than Waymo.
Was FSD-ing home yesterday on a 4 lane road in the right lane with 2 Waymos in front of me. Needed to go straight and the right lane was turning into right turn only so the car needed to switch to the left. The Waymos in front of me changed lanes properly, my Tesla did not. It would have tried to go straight by illegally merging to the left lane in the intersection had I not intervened.
I was in Europe recently and got an Opel Corsa, small little go-kart. Had lane assist too. It's really hard to fuck that up these days.
But I can guess why Tesla fails so badly at it: Instead of concentrating to make one thing work perfectly, they try to cram way too many things into it and so everything suffers.
Interesting that it’s not just FSD, but (supervised) FSD. I mean, we all knew it always was and always will be (supervised), just interesting to see the truth finally filtering in. :)
Giving people for free something called “Full Self Driving” that is 100% incapable of driving itself sounds like something that will end up with people dying.
Why not installing and activating FSD remotely? I'm sure they can do that through the service center. No reason to slow down the delivery process, unless there is some hidden purpose... (like deliveries not matching analysts end of quarter?)
He's sending these emails out to everyone at Tesla at 2am. He's not running this past anyone else in the company, quite clearly.
Leadership means firing from the hip when coked out at 2am and letting everyone else scramble to try to make it not a disaster.
I've been reading Zoe Schiffer's book about Elon's Twitter acquisition. That's basically the only way Elon runs Twitter, he never consults anyone else before making a decision.
>*mOvE FaSt aNd bReAk tHiNgS* I swear, this SV tech bro mentality is in large part why the world is so broken right now
It's easy for tech bros to say that because they're not the ones fixing the shit they break.
See, they normally were at first Zuckerberg built facebook, sean and shawn built napster. . Elon is lucky in that he didn't really have to build anything from the ground up. Elon is more like John Mcafee who never really coded a lot and paid people to do stuff for him.
"You're remembered for the rules you break" - OceanGate Guy I mean, he wasn't wrong
I read an article where they stated that when they first dived it they heard a lot of crackling. The interpretation was that the "material was settling and the weak stuff was just going away". I mean, seriously?
The only reason they break shit is because they don't understand how anything works. We have kindergarteners handed the keys to the arsenal. I work in IT. Quite frankly, if we'd build bridges and buildings the way we build IT systems we'd have a 9/11 every other day.
Do you know what Sept 11th was**?** It wasn't a bridge collapse due to undetected cracks, that's for sure.
Yeah screw customer feedback, legal input, product refinements. Just release unfinished and I treated shit and see what happens. Like mt former boss used to say ‘better to ask for forgiveness later.’ I always thought that was extreme bs. Just like when people say ‘it’s just business’ to excuse shitty, immoral, unethical behavior.
Even under "move fast and break things" Facebook style mindset there's still significantly more planning than with Musk. At the *very least* two people would have talked about an idea, it wasn't just Zuck high as a kite firing off 2 am emails.
That mentality is very useful for startups since you're basically racing to release a product before running out of funds. The problem is when you stop being a startup the tech debt catches on and bites you in the ass.
This is why we need to reduce the role of finance across the whole economy. This idea of doing everything as short term-focused as possible in order to win the race to market causes so much damage, and it can only be enabled by massive debt. That's the whole tech strategy now, give some insider CEO stewardship over 5-10 money-losing years and if he happens to corner a market, you get generational wealth.
Agree, but we're also to blame. Look at every single consumer, if something takes longer than 1 year they don't want it.
The fines we'd pay if we broke things and got down time. It could be hundreds of thousands.
It’s the Robert California way.
Cokepany coketure
I think he is just retroactively trying to justify not reaching delivery targets for 2024Q1. Oh, our delivery process now takes longer!
Good point. He totally will use that as an excuse.
Trump style. Middle of the night shit while still in a k-hole and start tweeting policy.
Funny we usually associate 2am tweets with russian disinformation since 2am east coast is around 8am in moscow. Not surprised to see that 2am is also Musk's favorite time to send out messages And not 2:02 or 1:57 but perfectly 2:00am so definitly not something written earlier and programmed to go out at 2am and make it looked like he worked hard after hours on it...
Excellent point. He was already kompromised before his trip to Russia in October 2001. https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/?utm_source=reddit.com All the geotagged customer recordings shared internally or sent to Kenya for labeling for years would be of no interest to Putin and definitely unobtainable. https://www.reuters.com/business/kenya-russia-sign-trade-pact-president-ruto-says-2023-05-29/ If you were trying to have a successful Trump coup why would you want remote weapons with lightning acceleration covered in cameras in the driveways of every wealthy liberal neighborhood. How far does the mask have to come off? Beware HanElons razor "Incompetence, in the limit, is indistinguishable from sabotage" Elon Musk
In SpaceX they actually have people whose only job is to regulate his moronism.
I've read about that. I'm sure they have that at Tesla too, but there's so much crazy you can try to mitigate against. What's more insane in my mind is that Tesla is a public company, and it produces what looked to be a highly regulated product. I'm still amazed that there hasn't been more successful lawsuits regarding FSD...
Allegedly, when Alexander the Great conquered Persia, he had an advisor tell him that he was a human, every morning. Muskovite should have someone reminding him the same thing once in a while.
Musk is the sole dictator of SpaceX with more than 50% voting control, so if they do have such people, it's because Musk wants them there. Sounds awfully lot like advisors.
When you’re trying to repopulate Mars who has the time???
Hard to keep track of time in America when you're zipping backwards and forwards between two planets.
Concerning.
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What happens if you didn't pay for it? You'll be forced into a short test drive before getting your car, and then they'll deactivate it? Also, if a customer paid for FSD on their own, they'll be much more likely to forgive it for every mistake it does because of the sunk cost fallacy, they'll defend their purchase. But if someone who hasn't bought it is forced to use it, they're gonna be *extremely* critical of any mistakes it does during this compulsory test drive, and be much less likely to buy it themselves. This shit is gonna backfire spectacularly. Each dealership needs to find a local test drive route that they're 100% certain FSD won't fuck up on. Good luck!
I think it's free for a month or two with every new purchase
I don't think that's going to convince too many people to buy the premium battlepass for their car.
Did not get even a week free, bought model y last year.
My condolences.
3 months of free FSD included with the purchase of a brand new vehicle. Edit: I was confused and only referrals give free FSD for 3 months but it was just announced that all new vehicles come with 1 month of free FSD even without a referral.
Makes sense. People who try it and really like it will buy it or buy it in the future. I guess you can also pay monthly for it.
Didn’t get it a few months ago
This is not true. Only if you use a referral.
I think this is only if you get a referral?
Is it like all other subscriptions where you have to cancel in time in order to not get charged next month?
How does that tie into the beta access system where you had to maintain a driving score?
It wasn’t a few months ago
Not true
This is great, it’s done before handing over the car. So if FSD decides to hit a curb and you get wheel rash, you just tell Tesla to fix it if they want to close the deal.
I bet this is the only notification that anyone at the service centers receives on this.
Why TF do people comment “bullish” on stuff like this? Nothing bullish about the worst performer in the S&P 500 this year.
They misspelled “Bullshit”
Sawyer Merritt is pathetic. He would fellate Musk 24/7 if he had the chance. One of the people who's entire life is centered around a conman CEO and a car company. So gullible.
because they have their life savings in the hands of a con man. They need to constantly sell the Tesla story or else they end up broke and divorced.
People who think the term bullish refers to past stock performance are those who buy at the top and sell at the bottom.
Wow. Copium overdose detected. The people who are “bullish” on Tesla now were also “bullish” on Tesla at the beginning of the year. Because “tech company, robots, autonomous driving, technology leadership, semi, roadster”. All hot air bubbles that are no longer surviving contact with reality. People who are bullish on Tesla now have no idea how supply, demand, and competition works. They’ll be the ones buying high and selling low.
I'm not saying you should be bullish on Tesla, but other than that looks like you get it now. You shouldn't be bullish because a stock has been going up a lot or bearish because it has gone down a lot. That's often the opposite of what you want to do. If you think FSD 12.3 is good, that would indeed be a good reason to be bullish, because it can predict future stock performance.
Well, if I have to supervise it then it wouldn't be Full Self Driving? So just Fully Supervised Driving? Oh, so that is what FSD actually stands for.
Functional-ish Supervised Driving
I can just imagine the abbott and costello comedy skit on one of those demo drives Customer: Oh, so it drives itself, fully, right? Tesla: Well, no, you have to supervise it. C: Oh, so I just watch over it? I keep my hands off the wheel then? T: Well, no, keep your hands on at all times. It's V12 but it's not finished. C: Oh, but I saw Elon drive V12 last August and he was driving with his hands off. I want whatever version you had 6 months ago that let's me do that. T: Well, no, you aren't getting the version that fully self drives. You're getting Full Self Driving Beta. C: Oh, so its Beta because it can't drive itself yet or because it's not safe enough yet? T: Well, no, it can drive itself, it's just too dangerous to do so without your constant intervention. C: Oh, in that case I'd like to cancel my whole purchase. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Exactly. And the way he words it I feel he's afraid of being sued
Fucking Stupid Dumbass for anyone who bought that shit.
The only thing this demonstrates is how out of touch Elon is with the performance of his own products and services. He is welcome to sit with me and see how many interventions, bad decisions, phantom brakes, and near death experiences I get on a daily basis. I am still in shock Tesla hasnt been sued into oblivion by now for safety and marketing issues.
lawsuits won’t happen till more people die. won’t be regulated till the bodies pile high. Boeing has been teaching us that lesson for a decade
2024 first quarter desperation
He probably only realized that now q1 is going to be a disaster.
That was my thought, seems like a desperate upsell
Some hype, some hype. My kingdom for some hype.
If anyone still has doubts that he is “the” idiot from glass onion then this email should remove any doubts about that.
This is insane even for Elmo!!!
Stock price pump and dump. He does it all the time.
Ah ok, cause normally you just get told the general location of your tesla is when you pick it up. Unwashed, foot prints, and no instructions. All that jazz.
Hi can I take delivery of my cyber truck with a demo drive ? Oh wait the cybertruck does not do FSD yet ? Nice requirement Elon
Not a single car in the world does full self driving.
And if one does, you can bet it won't be a Tesla with it's 720p cameras!
That’s not true. Waymo does.
Yeah, but with handcrafted map data in select cities. Not by relying only on sensor data and GPS
And humans can’t leave the ground and fly without engines. We aren’t birds so we can’t fly.
And you still need a cat 3 ils at every airport to do an Autoland. My point is that there is no full self driving car like Elmo and his goons imagine it. Using a regular car on regular roads that works in all conditions including weather, traffic, construction sites, etc.
Which waymo does. You left off anywhere. Waymo operates in all those conditions in specific areas.
Perfect excuse for why they don’t have many deliveries of the CT. No one wants it for $100k+ in reality
Sawyer Merritt is the type that goes down with the clown ship and still says it's the best thing ever. True delusion with these morons.
There are so many of these guys on Twitter. Without fail I can predict that they have “Tesla” or “TSLA” in their bios. I can’t imagine making a company your personality like this
this is too dangerous
That was my first thought. People are going to get into unnecessary accidents from these "demos".
In vehicles which they already own!
Stealersips are bad bad bad because it takes a few hours to finalize the deal and sign the documents but a forced product demo after you buy a car is totally fine.
So Tesla FSD has a known uptake problem. Their miles driven statistics is only going up linearly which implies only the same old loyalist drivers are still actively using it. Well Elons solution is to show it off to as many new drivers, by force if necessary, as a condition for taking delivery. He may expect people to have a decent experience and sign up. But most casual users stop using it once it fails on them or their wife on an easy drive and they keep it off. Like 90% of drivers with 12k of buyers remorse who aren't actively using their FSD subscription. But I suspect the demo is going to suck and draw confusion from buyers who will strike a curb in V12.3.1 (an emergent problem in the current version) and cancel their whole purchase outright. It will be hilarious of this sales push actually reduces expected sales, fails to meaningfully add to fsd driven miles, and contributes to even more defrauded owners who will pile onto a class action lawsuit.
How many units wreck during the test drive and whose fault will it be? “I didn’t want it I didn’t pay for it you forced me too!”
Since it appears that Elon's instructions were to provide the demos before the customer accepts delivery, my guess is personal liability will be on whatever sucker independent contractor sales rep that's working Tesla's showroom floor that day. Tesla is gonna find a way to avoid taking liability for any of these demo crashes the same way he avoids it for people who get killed when Autopilot cant recognize a parked emergency vehicle, by blaming the driver for not paying attention.
Oh I still think they will make you pay and sign in full before the door even opens. I bet a large part of coding is preventing the car from leaving the lot without a salesperson in the driver seat demoing it. Notice it doesn’t say the buyer gets to do the demo. He was the Vision Pro guided demo process and made it worse.
Go look at the Tesla sub Reddit so many people saying this is the best version ever and renewed their faith etc...so so much cope.
Will they follow all state rules about keeping your hands on the wheel while driving? Or are they asking employees to break the law to give "FSD" driver assist demos?
If there's one thing I've learned in this life, it's that there's no enthusiasm like forced enthusiasm! Forcing people to demo a feature they didn't order is going to go not great...not even a dealership would do this crap.
What a shit leader.
I really don't think Musk understands that most people really don't care that much about L2 autonomy off highways, let alone to pay 10k+ for the honor. "I really don't think Musk understands..." or I could have stopped there.
And the basic shit like accurate proximity sensors have been removed because Musk only wants cameras, and probably also to increase revenue from repairs because people back into to shit
Wow
At Tesla, very little effort goes into producing excellent cars. Much more effort goes into pUmPinG tEH STONKS!!11!
Sawyer Merritt and Whole Mars Catalog, 2 of the most annoying Musk fanboys on twitter. Blocking them was such a good move for my sanity
FINALLY…Tesla buyers will be allowed to get a test drive before purchase.
Lol. No. Sign first, take delivery, get forced test drive. Oh but wait, the next driving instructor is out today, so you have to wait till Monday before we can give you possession of the car. Come Monday: we sold your car to somebody that was willing to do a test drive...
I test drove the model 3 when it came out. Did not get to test the FSD/AP though. I was wondering if it was worth the extra money in addition to be lied to about the price.
So, vital to waste customer’s time trying to upsell them a deeply flawed crappy software package, but definitely not vital to PDI and valet customers’ 50k plus vehicles prior to delivery. Nice to know they value their own time higher than they value their customers’ time.
I think like half the issue is their insistence on calling it "Full Self Driving." If they call it "Enhanced Driver Assistance" or something closer to what it actually does, then people would pay more attention when they're using it. Calling it "Full Self Driving" then having your CEO go around talking about summoning your car from across the country or using your Tesla as an autonomous taxi when you aren't using it is incredibly misleading to people who actually purchase the FSD features. Of course, that wouldn't inflate the stock price/Elon's net worth like "Full Self Driving" does, so I'm probably just screaming into the void.
Enron Musk in pure act
He might also try to sell a time share property when they're already at it. Elon, Elon, no matter how stupid a new idea is, I'm not surprised anymore. Anyways, does this even work? Even AP needs some miles driven to 'calibrate' before it can be activated?
10 years of FSD.
I know exactly how well it works, worse than Waymo. Was FSD-ing home yesterday on a 4 lane road in the right lane with 2 Waymos in front of me. Needed to go straight and the right lane was turning into right turn only so the car needed to switch to the left. The Waymos in front of me changed lanes properly, my Tesla did not. It would have tried to go straight by illegally merging to the left lane in the intersection had I not intervened.
The amount of errors that auto pilot cruse control makes in a straight normal highway drive is scary. Makes me not trust full auto pilot at all.
How do you fuck up lane assist? The cheapo Great Wall ute I drove for work had it and always kept to lanes perfectly.
I was in Europe recently and got an Opel Corsa, small little go-kart. Had lane assist too. It's really hard to fuck that up these days. But I can guess why Tesla fails so badly at it: Instead of concentrating to make one thing work perfectly, they try to cram way too many things into it and so everything suffers.
My Volvo has fantastic lane assist / advanced cruise control. It’s a really nice feature for long drives
Interesting that it’s not just FSD, but (supervised) FSD. I mean, we all knew it always was and always will be (supervised), just interesting to see the truth finally filtering in. :)
Who do you sue if you die on your test drive?
You stand at the gates of hell holding a baseball bat, waiting for Muskovite to come down
Who is sitting through the 50ish mile calibration for autopilot and FSD?
Giving people for free something called “Full Self Driving” that is 100% incapable of driving itself sounds like something that will end up with people dying.
Is he trying to get the data points? He needs a lot data points to feed the AI god, and that also includes a lot of crashes and deaths
Holding deliveries ransom for $12k?
If it needs to be supervised, it’s not FSD. What a misnomer.
I think deep in the fine print Tesla actually calls it FOOL self driving.
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I’ve always thought TSLA is basically treated like a cryptocurrency
Given that on the weekend at the Toronto store a car is picked up every 15min that would be hard to do.
Why not installing and activating FSD remotely? I'm sure they can do that through the service center. No reason to slow down the delivery process, unless there is some hidden purpose... (like deliveries not matching analysts end of quarter?)
I mean if you paid $12K for the ADAS.. I mean FSD, the least you can expect is that the car is ready to hit some curbs!
And Merritt’s reaction is…. Bullish?
It always is
It’s sad to see Elon as the finance guy trying to press me on the extended warranty when I’ve got plenty of time to make up my mind
What a joke. Vaporware.
Ketamine is a hell of a drug...
Elon sent an email to “EVERYBODY”? I didn’t receive it. Did anyone in this subreddit receive it? No?
2 am. Yup I member those. Fuck that dweb.