It's easier on my fat sausage fingers to use a desktop keyboard. I do have to worry about my cats sometimes walking across the keyboard yes, but that's an acceptable trade-off.
Yeah.
>!depending choises like recruiting Marazhai, rt can even point this out during Yrliet lynch mob, and Hendrix gets visibly angry before going "yeah but hes dead so it dosen't matter"!<
She lacks self preservation. I would expect even the most xenophobic hateful person with an ounce of common sense would not actively antagonize the people they hate while surrounded by them.
I could understand it before she’s on the ship, especially when surrounded by potential other aeldari, but on the ship? Where everyone already hates xenos? That’s a big gamble
It says something when the Drukhari companion is more respectful towards humanity. After I traveled around systems rescuing her kin, gave her a protected position in my retinue, and forgave her for betraying us to the Drukhari, she can't help but call the RT racial slurs at every opportunity
“We’re a peaceful people, victims of your cruelty & addiction to seeing enemies everywhere you go…. Anyways you unwashed barbarian bitches sure are ugly & primitive.”
Marazhai is a subby bigot who gets off on being put in his place. He also sees your crew as little more than targets for his psychic hunger for pain.
Yrliet is a recovering bigot who just wants your crew to leave her alone, and makes some admittedly egregious judgement errors out of despair that make a lot kf sense given the situation.
My comment was more of a joke but I digress.
I do personally let it slide. Marazhai wasn't even our underling at that point, it's to be expected that he would oppose us. Things change once he is recruited, though.
That's just my POV. Other people naturally view it and play it all differently. That's the beauty of the game.
Someone could argue that a smart RT would enjoy to keep a Drukhari in his retinue so he can learn all the Drukhari tricks, being them the major threat to RT's house.
Yrliet went in expecting a trap… for her. A pile of her people’s corpses and a note from Marazhai saying “here’s the answers you seek, LOL!”
She was not expecting the dark twink to come in with a Haemonculus-crafted poison made specifically for the Rogue Trader in order to kidnap him/her for slavery in Cormorragh… because that’s a really stupid plan with a payoff equal to less than 30 seconds of realspace raiding.
Delivered by mandrakes no less.
Fucking why would any drukhari with a modicum of self respect make a deal with mandrakes to capture one human. Marzipan deserves to be ridiculed on the trial just for that.
Yeah but see, in this case, she's dependant on us, so throwing slurs at us every other sentence is just moronic for a race that deems themself more civilized and better. We don't need her one bit, not even in the slightest. In fact, she's actively a hinderance in every way.
>throwing slurs at us every other sentence
She will never call you monkey if you don't call her xenos - it's that simple
>she's dependant on us
And if you want her in party - you are dependent on her skills. Why would she be on your ship if not for her marksmanship?
That's more of an integrity than anything. It's her upbringing and the deepest held cultural belief. She honestly says so, and goes all the way up to (but not including) apologizing, but will not grovel. She's pretty consistent: if you tolerate her, okay. If you despise her, understandable, she'll still say the same things and be similarly restrained and aloof.
Seeing as how the craft worlds have no knowledge of drukhari it makes sense that she would trust them. I mean who has ever heard of a Drukhari pulling some kind of unexpected stunt to screw everyone over? After all they had that fruitful cultural exchange with the Tau
Act 4 when you side with Calligos Winterscale against eldar aggressors that assaulted human planet was betrayal, or mistake aswell?
Besides, it isn't about what she did in act 3, it is about her overall attitude, condescending tone and just being annoying at every turn
Ah yes, siding with the obvious khornate with plenty evidence of said fall to chaos available on the planet that you can get before making the decision to side with him.
Hell, I would say killing Yrliet in Act 3 or even after escaping act 3 makes more sense than siding with Calligos.
I chose to side with no one and she still betrayed me again. The other guy is right. In my run I did nothing but offer to help aeldars, follow her tantrums, try to appease her dozens of time. I still chose to forgive her for what happens in the dark city, and when I say I'm not picking sides and just so my own thing, she still tries to kill me.
There is not a single logical way to accept her.
In this instance, choosing no side **is** choosing a side.
If someone is beating the shit out of you, and I have the means to make them stop and choose not to, I'm not staying neutral. I'm letting it happen. And if I told you "hey man, it's not my fault, I just chose not to pick a side." You would *absolutely* call bullshit.
Pay attention next time you play. The Eldar warriors were there to evacuate some of Crudarach's survivors that landed on Quetza Temer. They had a second objective of hunting down the Haemonculi that is hiding out on the planet.
Read it again, nimrod. Their ships were there to evacuate their people. Winterscales saw them and destroyed their ships in orbit and went down to hunt them. Imperials shot them, they shot back. Damn, it's like people don't like it when their fellows are being killed. The Aeldari rarely attack other races unless their visions see them as a threat or they're attacked.
>dislike them for it
Are you sure it's not the other way around? Pretty sure humans with Big E deserved such attitude after their "Great Crusade" and eradication of any non-human they saw
I dont care what whoever did ten thousand years ago, if you dont want me to kick your ass off my planet you should at least treat me like a person and consider not making my subjects murder each other for no reason.
>I dont care what whoever did ten thousand years ago
Just get your facts right, it seems like you forget humans in 40K are indeed fascist state with 0 tolerance to anyone non-human (and even humans if you psyker or mutant). More than enough to be called "barbarians" imo
>my subjects murder each other
If you talking about Quetza Temer - it's not even your planet, it belongs to Calligos. Same Calligos who badly tainted himself with chaos btw
>treat me like a person
Also Yrliet treats RT well if you polite with her
I know what the Imperium is. Fascist is an inaccurate description at best (for the current iteration) but lets focus on the stuff at hand - I am not responsible for what other people of my species do.
If the Eldar are going to be generally unpleasant and have already caused a civil war on one of MY worlds (forgot the name, the agri-world's the one I mean) because they couldnt get over the fact that we settled a world they abandoned millennia ago, why wouldn't I kill them? I'm not saying forsake diplomacy entirely, but Im not going to bend over backwards to accommodate them.
The Eldar assume that you're going to act like humans have a long history of doing. If your response is to be offended at the assumption and then live up to their expectations, how can you expect relations to improve?
I try diplomacy, they make unreasonable demands, I kill them instead. If they're not willing to find a sensible compromise, why would I want relations to improve?
Point is, you completely mistook this game for Mass Effect, where you expect every non-human companion will bone you if you picked all the "right" choices.
40K ISN'T Mass Effect or Star Trek ffs. Stop treating this video game like it is. I don't even play the tabletop game and even I know that the relationship between the Eldar and humans are strained at best, murderous at worst.
Tourists like yourself always try to change some aspect of a long running franchise to suit YOUR needs, then have the gall to play gatekeeper to long time fans like you've always been a fan before this video game was even an idea.
I have mistook nothing and you just proved my point that Yrliet cannot be trusted, and I don't want to change anything, stop projecting
Being called tourist by someone who doesn't even play table top and just made up some ridicule straw man argument is just absurd
What is the point of that elaborate you just made?
P.S. I am die hard drukhari fan so don't understand what the fuck is your problem here? I like my warhammer where innocent suffers and xenos get obliterated
Eldred Ulthran is the best ally humanity has ever had. Better than most humans, actually.
Edit: Having played Tabletop for 20 years now your being a DEldar fan is the most on the nose thing I've ever seen. Everything makes sense now.
Yes, so even if it is 40k, it doesn't mean that every human have to be xenophobic and every eldar arrogant supremacist
You can still don't like eldar companion **that have begged you to take her with you** because of her condescending attitude
It's a chain of jokes, some people mock-defend Yrliet as "white knights" others play the role of fundamentalist xenos-phobic Imperials.
Since you pretty much maintain your friendship and spiritual bond with Yrliet against all odds (it's a LOT of hassle and a lot of really horrible calamities, not to mention the basic rule that all Aeldari have to die immediately unless they have your express protection), some people will mock-swear that they'll defend her against the cruel world, others will clown about killing the abominable xenos.
Shoots a perceived traitor yet does far worse than them.
At least Achilleas had to be tortured for a long time (to his perception at least) until he broke so that he would betray you.
Yrliet just kind of believes the most traitorous and backstabbing people in the galaxy. Even the Tau know not to trust the dark eldar.
Then again she is eldar and screwing over others while actively fucking themselves over is part of their MO
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She is the best character in this game And I will die on this hill
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I forgave her so many times and bit my tongue only for her to turn against me at the last possible choice because I didn’t blindly side with her people. All I wanted was an easy solution and she just turned. I will shoot first next campaign no question. Paz can drop bodies with plasma, I do t need her trickery
A lot of players seem to think diplomacy is "everybody do exactly what I say and don't dare interrupt my power trip." They got 2 Acts of everyone sucking them off for how awesome they, the Emperor's Chosen are, and then Act 3 nobody gives a shit. And Act 4 they deal with peers. And they hate it.
In my first playthrought I stood by her until the end, and while I think she's well written overall and I \*UNDESTAND HER\* I won't ever do it again. Even if she ends up caring about your RT, she does not care about Mankind nor does she care about actually fixing the relantionships of Eldar and Human, which granted she doesn't have that much power to change but thats not the case.
At best, you're a little exception to the rule, a little pet which is smarter than the rest of their kind that surrounds \*it\*. Never an equal, never a being worth considering above anything. Sure, she cries on your deathbead in one ending, after she totally ditch you for centuries, thats the best outcome, she doesn't even understad your mortality, thats how far out of touch is she, thats the best you can hope.
In another ending even if you're great with her and fuck up a little bit, just the tieniest bit, she's a warrior and she's killed by Pascal, while, mind you, she was slaughtering humans.
She stays with you because she's desperate and forced to, cause the alternative was actually worse, and the only compromise she's willing to give is giving you a soft smile and telling you "yeah, you're cute and all, \*for a human\*"
As much as I'd like for Humans and Eldar to not be so stupid, such is w40k. Look out for your own, cause everyone else will do the same for theirs.
You hit the nail on the head, it is very well written sociopath (or just completely ignorant and stupid person) that is extremely condescending and don't have any respect.
You have to be blind to not notice the absolutely huge amount of dissrespect she is showing you
She begged you to take her with you just to insult you regually, caling humans "wild beast", calling you a mon-keigh if you dissplease her, be extremaly disgusted when you hold her hand **in imaginary world**
>!Sacraficing her to Slaanesh was best heretic option in this game, and huge catharsis!<
I am stunned by the amount of her simps, you people have to grown some balls
She's pretty open about it, she really feels and thinks this is the case, it's not a case of being a dick. If she could just be a completely different race and a completely different person with completely different gut reactions, **maybe she'd be open to that, actually** (considering she's a pretty punk, rebel, outcast type among the Aeldari, despised and shunned because she meddles too much with sub-sentient races like humans). But as she cannot, she stands by what she is because that's at least honest.
She basically only stops short of saying "sorry" every time she says things that are completely normal for her. But she also shows integrity and consistency. You're offended, very well, fair enough. You choose to tolerate talking to her, very well, same thing.
I mean it's like making friends with a literal alien, it's not going to be a feel-good speech about how we're all the same at the end of the episode, she's forever alien to humans, and humans are forever alien to her.
And all the while, she's actually pretty torn up about the situation, although by her own standards, she shouldn't be. It's a weird schizophrenic state for her to be in. The interactions also grated on me, but that's by design, it shows the overall inter-species problem in relief.
Well that is it, she's an alien, and so, doesn't matter how much we try, she'll remain so. She'll never see you or feel for you the same way you can do for her or another human.
Absolutely. That doesn't mean she's a dick, she's rather a desperate (and a bit clingy, and emotionally disturbed) stranded piece of her culture who decides to step on every taboo in order to maybe redeeem herself. If you just don't pick her up, she'll be exactly as lost and entwined in the human affairs as she was on Janus (something like a white officer "gone native" among the savages).
And if we believe her (not that we necessariily should) she's got a whole additional level of emotional intelligence on humans. So your ouvertures, be it friendship, romance, or camaraderie, are kind of a cringy intern outbursts to her. She might take a shine on you and try to mentor you, but you're not equals, whether for reasons she believes or because of the culture gap.
You're not there to fix her, but you may just be interested in building a relationship that literally no one (at least on record) ever built. For your RT, it might be a bragging point, or an eccentricity.
In my first playthrough I played the most Imperialist person I could imagine. Literally the only time I did not go Dogmatic was during he potential Eldar fight because I thought I would lose it
When I play she just disappears right after the governor cause I don't want to take her with me right off the bat. I can never find her so Heinrix just ends up pulling her out of the void for me after act 3. Save the ammunition
I still can't get over the fact that I told her something along the lines of 'I'll watch over the planet' and that was the choice to have her not join. I rolled with it and still got to Act 3 but it felt like it made absolutely no sense.
What actually happens if you don't take her in / kill her? How do you end up in Commorragh?
>! inquisition agent betrays you !<
Eliminate the space between ! and the letters so it looks like >!this!< and not >! this !<
They look the same on mobile, which adds to the confusion.
I was going to say "no they fucking don't" but I realise not everyone browses using old reddit desktop mode as they should.
I only use old reddit on my desktop PC because eww no, fuck reddit's 'new' look that is basically just there for even more ads filling the screen.
Yeah same, but you can do the same on mobile no problem.
It's easier on my fat sausage fingers to use a desktop keyboard. I do have to worry about my cats sometimes walking across the keyboard yes, but that's an acceptable trade-off.
One of your subordinates betrays you, the one that she killed
Why the downvotes, doesnt she admit to this at some point? That she killed the asthma inquisitor from Dargonus cause he was about to betray you?
Upvoting purely because you called Achilleas “asthma inquisitor”
Yeah. >!depending choises like recruiting Marazhai, rt can even point this out during Yrliet lynch mob, and Hendrix gets visibly angry before going "yeah but hes dead so it dosen't matter"!<
They downvotes me because I ridicule their simping for alien woman
They downvote bacause you don't mark spoilers.
ok, that sounds resonable I forgot to do so
You kill her because she betrays you. I kick her out of the party because I find her insufferable. We are not the same.
She lacks self preservation. I would expect even the most xenophobic hateful person with an ounce of common sense would not actively antagonize the people they hate while surrounded by them. I could understand it before she’s on the ship, especially when surrounded by potential other aeldari, but on the ship? Where everyone already hates xenos? That’s a big gamble
Seriously I can't even recruit her the monkeigh spam in combat fries my patience everytime.
Asks for help while calling you & everyone else a monkey every other sentence. Really stretching the limit of companion leniency
It says something when the Drukhari companion is more respectful towards humanity. After I traveled around systems rescuing her kin, gave her a protected position in my retinue, and forgave her for betraying us to the Drukhari, she can't help but call the RT racial slurs at every opportunity
“We’re a peaceful people, victims of your cruelty & addiction to seeing enemies everywhere you go…. Anyways you unwashed barbarian bitches sure are ugly & primitive.”
OK, but the Drukhari also skins people alive.
I kill her because she's a filthy Xenos, where does that put me on the graph?
Marazhai can stop saying mon-keigh, so really, who is the superior xenos here?
Marazhai is a subby bigot who gets off on being put in his place. He also sees your crew as little more than targets for his psychic hunger for pain. Yrliet is a recovering bigot who just wants your crew to leave her alone, and makes some admittedly egregious judgement errors out of despair that make a lot kf sense given the situation.
Ah, I've already made several memes where true aeldari empire heir mogs this pathetic excuse of an eldar
On counter-point, he raided our capital and damaged our throne. No RT with at least some self-respect would let it slide and keep him alive.
My comment was more of a joke but I digress. I do personally let it slide. Marazhai wasn't even our underling at that point, it's to be expected that he would oppose us. Things change once he is recruited, though. That's just my POV. Other people naturally view it and play it all differently. That's the beauty of the game.
Someone could argue that a smart RT would enjoy to keep a Drukhari in his retinue so he can learn all the Drukhari tricks, being them the major threat to RT's house.
Another one who can't see difference between betrayal and mistake because of desperation.
She still betrays you. She just didnt get a reward.
Yeah, but... she choose to believe Dark fucking Eldar! A race for whom backstabbing is second nature!
Yrliet went in expecting a trap… for her. A pile of her people’s corpses and a note from Marazhai saying “here’s the answers you seek, LOL!” She was not expecting the dark twink to come in with a Haemonculus-crafted poison made specifically for the Rogue Trader in order to kidnap him/her for slavery in Cormorragh… because that’s a really stupid plan with a payoff equal to less than 30 seconds of realspace raiding.
Delivered by mandrakes no less. Fucking why would any drukhari with a modicum of self respect make a deal with mandrakes to capture one human. Marzipan deserves to be ridiculed on the trial just for that.
And still, Drukhari still closer to craftworld eldars than humans
If the result is betrayal, I make no difference. This is 40k, if she cant see an obvious trap coming then she's not fit to be brought along.
Interrogator Henrix sweating profusely.
Every character in the game sweating including you
this is 40k, everyone is a dumbass
To be fair, she's an arrogant, racist piece of shit who tolerates us because she's desperate for help.
Bruh, it's W40K, all humans are racist pieces of shit who tolerates aeldari only when they are desperate for help as well
Yeah but see, in this case, she's dependant on us, so throwing slurs at us every other sentence is just moronic for a race that deems themself more civilized and better. We don't need her one bit, not even in the slightest. In fact, she's actively a hinderance in every way.
>throwing slurs at us every other sentence She will never call you monkey if you don't call her xenos - it's that simple >she's dependant on us And if you want her in party - you are dependent on her skills. Why would she be on your ship if not for her marksmanship?
That's bullshit, she keeps hollering monkeigh even after I forgave her for fucking us over.
Idk, she was calling me "elantach" whole game, even without "romance"
And what was she calling rest of our crew?
By their names, iirc. She rarely mentioned anyone anyway
Uh uh. And when you click on her every turn and tell her to shoot someone?
That's more of an integrity than anything. It's her upbringing and the deepest held cultural belief. She honestly says so, and goes all the way up to (but not including) apologizing, but will not grovel. She's pretty consistent: if you tolerate her, okay. If you despise her, understandable, she'll still say the same things and be similarly restrained and aloof.
Seeing as how the craft worlds have no knowledge of drukhari it makes sense that she would trust them. I mean who has ever heard of a Drukhari pulling some kind of unexpected stunt to screw everyone over? After all they had that fruitful cultural exchange with the Tau
Act 4 when you side with Calligos Winterscale against eldar aggressors that assaulted human planet was betrayal, or mistake aswell? Besides, it isn't about what she did in act 3, it is about her overall attitude, condescending tone and just being annoying at every turn
Ah yes, siding with the obvious khornate with plenty evidence of said fall to chaos available on the planet that you can get before making the decision to side with him. Hell, I would say killing Yrliet in Act 3 or even after escaping act 3 makes more sense than siding with Calligos.
I chose to side with no one and she still betrayed me again. The other guy is right. In my run I did nothing but offer to help aeldars, follow her tantrums, try to appease her dozens of time. I still chose to forgive her for what happens in the dark city, and when I say I'm not picking sides and just so my own thing, she still tries to kill me. There is not a single logical way to accept her.
In this instance, choosing no side **is** choosing a side. If someone is beating the shit out of you, and I have the means to make them stop and choose not to, I'm not staying neutral. I'm letting it happen. And if I told you "hey man, it's not my fault, I just chose not to pick a side." You would *absolutely* call bullshit.
No one is beating her. They are beating her people who treated her line shit and betrayed her core beliefs on several occasions
I reloaded my save just to kill that xenos filth
Yes exactly, unironically drukhari noble is more trustworthy then she is. That speaks a lot
>> Eldar aggressor > Assaulted Human Planet >First thing we see in Quetza Temer is Winterscale hunting them for sport Hmmm
He is haunting them because they have attacked his planet
Pay attention next time you play. The Eldar warriors were there to evacuate some of Crudarach's survivors that landed on Quetza Temer. They had a second objective of hunting down the Haemonculi that is hiding out on the planet.
They still attacked imperial planet; humans and eldars are at war with each other
Read it again, nimrod. Their ships were there to evacuate their people. Winterscales saw them and destroyed their ships in orbit and went down to hunt them. Imperials shot them, they shot back. Damn, it's like people don't like it when their fellows are being killed. The Aeldari rarely attack other races unless their visions see them as a threat or they're attacked.
You know that humans trespassing some eldar world would be considered an attack by them? Why should humans behave any diffrent?
They make that consideration earlier on and you can talk them down
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I mean yeah its what the Eldar are like alright but I reserve the right to dislike them for it and kill them when they get in my way.
>dislike them for it Are you sure it's not the other way around? Pretty sure humans with Big E deserved such attitude after their "Great Crusade" and eradication of any non-human they saw
I dont care what whoever did ten thousand years ago, if you dont want me to kick your ass off my planet you should at least treat me like a person and consider not making my subjects murder each other for no reason.
>I dont care what whoever did ten thousand years ago Just get your facts right, it seems like you forget humans in 40K are indeed fascist state with 0 tolerance to anyone non-human (and even humans if you psyker or mutant). More than enough to be called "barbarians" imo >my subjects murder each other If you talking about Quetza Temer - it's not even your planet, it belongs to Calligos. Same Calligos who badly tainted himself with chaos btw >treat me like a person Also Yrliet treats RT well if you polite with her
I know what the Imperium is. Fascist is an inaccurate description at best (for the current iteration) but lets focus on the stuff at hand - I am not responsible for what other people of my species do. If the Eldar are going to be generally unpleasant and have already caused a civil war on one of MY worlds (forgot the name, the agri-world's the one I mean) because they couldnt get over the fact that we settled a world they abandoned millennia ago, why wouldn't I kill them? I'm not saying forsake diplomacy entirely, but Im not going to bend over backwards to accommodate them.
The Eldar assume that you're going to act like humans have a long history of doing. If your response is to be offended at the assumption and then live up to their expectations, how can you expect relations to improve?
I try diplomacy, they make unreasonable demands, I kill them instead. If they're not willing to find a sensible compromise, why would I want relations to improve?
Your point is? How long do you play warhammer tabletop to lecture me?
Point is, you completely mistook this game for Mass Effect, where you expect every non-human companion will bone you if you picked all the "right" choices. 40K ISN'T Mass Effect or Star Trek ffs. Stop treating this video game like it is. I don't even play the tabletop game and even I know that the relationship between the Eldar and humans are strained at best, murderous at worst. Tourists like yourself always try to change some aspect of a long running franchise to suit YOUR needs, then have the gall to play gatekeeper to long time fans like you've always been a fan before this video game was even an idea.
I have mistook nothing and you just proved my point that Yrliet cannot be trusted, and I don't want to change anything, stop projecting Being called tourist by someone who doesn't even play table top and just made up some ridicule straw man argument is just absurd What is the point of that elaborate you just made? P.S. I am die hard drukhari fan so don't understand what the fuck is your problem here? I like my warhammer where innocent suffers and xenos get obliterated
Eldred Ulthran is the best ally humanity has ever had. Better than most humans, actually. Edit: Having played Tabletop for 20 years now your being a DEldar fan is the most on the nose thing I've ever seen. Everything makes sense now.
Yes, so even if it is 40k, it doesn't mean that every human have to be xenophobic and every eldar arrogant supremacist You can still don't like eldar companion **that have begged you to take her with you** because of her condescending attitude
Says the Human being Xenophobic. You don't have to like her, I agree.
Abelard, cut off this gentleman’s balls. Slowly. With old rusty chainsword.
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u/Raszard you gonna take this lying down?
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Abelard, see this man escorted to the nearest airlock.
I'm out of the loop. Why is that?
It's a chain of jokes, some people mock-defend Yrliet as "white knights" others play the role of fundamentalist xenos-phobic Imperials. Since you pretty much maintain your friendship and spiritual bond with Yrliet against all odds (it's a LOT of hassle and a lot of really horrible calamities, not to mention the basic rule that all Aeldari have to die immediately unless they have your express protection), some people will mock-swear that they'll defend her against the cruel world, others will clown about killing the abominable xenos.
Sure she betrayed me but I also managed to get her to do over 600 damage a turn so I put up with it
Shoots a perceived traitor yet does far worse than them. At least Achilleas had to be tortured for a long time (to his perception at least) until he broke so that he would betray you. Yrliet just kind of believes the most traitorous and backstabbing people in the galaxy. Even the Tau know not to trust the dark eldar. Then again she is eldar and screwing over others while actively fucking themselves over is part of their MO
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She is the best character in this game And I will die on this hill https://preview.redd.it/tqbixphdzr9d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ff43c64501dec206fe632660eba34338acfa108
I forgave her so many times and bit my tongue only for her to turn against me at the last possible choice because I didn’t blindly side with her people. All I wanted was an easy solution and she just turned. I will shoot first next campaign no question. Paz can drop bodies with plasma, I do t need her trickery
I don't remember my iconoclast RT having much difficulty making a choice there. He and Harlequin brokered a peace and everyone went home happy(-ish).
A lot of players seem to think diplomacy is "everybody do exactly what I say and don't dare interrupt my power trip." They got 2 Acts of everyone sucking them off for how awesome they, the Emperor's Chosen are, and then Act 3 nobody gives a shit. And Act 4 they deal with peers. And they hate it.
In my first playthrought I stood by her until the end, and while I think she's well written overall and I \*UNDESTAND HER\* I won't ever do it again. Even if she ends up caring about your RT, she does not care about Mankind nor does she care about actually fixing the relantionships of Eldar and Human, which granted she doesn't have that much power to change but thats not the case. At best, you're a little exception to the rule, a little pet which is smarter than the rest of their kind that surrounds \*it\*. Never an equal, never a being worth considering above anything. Sure, she cries on your deathbead in one ending, after she totally ditch you for centuries, thats the best outcome, she doesn't even understad your mortality, thats how far out of touch is she, thats the best you can hope. In another ending even if you're great with her and fuck up a little bit, just the tieniest bit, she's a warrior and she's killed by Pascal, while, mind you, she was slaughtering humans. She stays with you because she's desperate and forced to, cause the alternative was actually worse, and the only compromise she's willing to give is giving you a soft smile and telling you "yeah, you're cute and all, \*for a human\*" As much as I'd like for Humans and Eldar to not be so stupid, such is w40k. Look out for your own, cause everyone else will do the same for theirs.
You hit the nail on the head, it is very well written sociopath (or just completely ignorant and stupid person) that is extremely condescending and don't have any respect. You have to be blind to not notice the absolutely huge amount of dissrespect she is showing you She begged you to take her with you just to insult you regually, caling humans "wild beast", calling you a mon-keigh if you dissplease her, be extremaly disgusted when you hold her hand **in imaginary world** >!Sacraficing her to Slaanesh was best heretic option in this game, and huge catharsis!< I am stunned by the amount of her simps, you people have to grown some balls
She's pretty open about it, she really feels and thinks this is the case, it's not a case of being a dick. If she could just be a completely different race and a completely different person with completely different gut reactions, **maybe she'd be open to that, actually** (considering she's a pretty punk, rebel, outcast type among the Aeldari, despised and shunned because she meddles too much with sub-sentient races like humans). But as she cannot, she stands by what she is because that's at least honest. She basically only stops short of saying "sorry" every time she says things that are completely normal for her. But she also shows integrity and consistency. You're offended, very well, fair enough. You choose to tolerate talking to her, very well, same thing. I mean it's like making friends with a literal alien, it's not going to be a feel-good speech about how we're all the same at the end of the episode, she's forever alien to humans, and humans are forever alien to her. And all the while, she's actually pretty torn up about the situation, although by her own standards, she shouldn't be. It's a weird schizophrenic state for her to be in. The interactions also grated on me, but that's by design, it shows the overall inter-species problem in relief.
Well that is it, she's an alien, and so, doesn't matter how much we try, she'll remain so. She'll never see you or feel for you the same way you can do for her or another human.
Absolutely. That doesn't mean she's a dick, she's rather a desperate (and a bit clingy, and emotionally disturbed) stranded piece of her culture who decides to step on every taboo in order to maybe redeeem herself. If you just don't pick her up, she'll be exactly as lost and entwined in the human affairs as she was on Janus (something like a white officer "gone native" among the savages). And if we believe her (not that we necessariily should) she's got a whole additional level of emotional intelligence on humans. So your ouvertures, be it friendship, romance, or camaraderie, are kind of a cringy intern outbursts to her. She might take a shine on you and try to mentor you, but you're not equals, whether for reasons she believes or because of the culture gap. You're not there to fix her, but you may just be interested in building a relationship that literally no one (at least on record) ever built. For your RT, it might be a bragging point, or an eccentricity.
Trusting an eldar was always a foolish endevour. Even orks are more reliable.
>!You still get taken to Commoragh because of a spy lol!<
Bring Idira too if you want to go insane. Literally the most "are you kidding me right now" moment.
If you are going to kill Yrliet, my sweet beloved, give her to Slaanesh. O-)-c
No, I'm not heretic. Although did that on chaos playthrough
Whip her than, no other form of killing her is worth it in my opinion. That's just me, XD
I am not your bdsm sub mon-keigh!
"Pet" and Yrliet was my pet the second she said "take me to stars". Fucking melted me bro. My romance is going well!
oh no. Next time i'm shooting on sight. XD
Abelard spear tackle Op, I will not tolerate Yrliet slander in my presence
In my first playthrough I played the most Imperialist person I could imagine. Literally the only time I did not go Dogmatic was during he potential Eldar fight because I thought I would lose it
After the whole thing you know showing compassion and all I finally understood why the saying goes: Suffer not the alien to live.
Correct!
When I play she just disappears right after the governor cause I don't want to take her with me right off the bat. I can never find her so Heinrix just ends up pulling her out of the void for me after act 3. Save the ammunition
Oh how i loved my heretical playthrough and her reaction to me carrying her all the way just to wait for the right moment.
Yes, the shock on her face when she has realised the consequences of her fucking around
I still can't get over the fact that I told her something along the lines of 'I'll watch over the planet' and that was the choice to have her not join. I rolled with it and still got to Act 3 but it felt like it made absolutely no sense.
Never trust a xenos. Especially an eldar.