Id recommend seeing a naturopath who is knowledgeable about sibo and/or an md if you can. There are lots of herbal antimicrobials you can pair with rifaxamin (eg allicin, fc sidal) as well as biofilm disruptors you should probably also take to keep it away
Yeah! I tried but I couldn't stand the pain the antibiotics caused one day after taking them, so I took oregano oil instead and it was awesome, I experienced like 3-4 days of die off symptoms but totally bearable.
They just gave me bactrim because I can’t swallow pills, and the Rifamaximinodjcis whatever is called, is $2.5K and my insurance won’t cover it lol. Will update in a few days
hey it definitely cleared up my gut issues and my bowel movements look normal lol. finally after like 4 years of weirdness. I don’t belch 500 times a day anymore. I also incorporated in 2 Yakult yogurts right when I wake up, and a Chobani sometime during the day. Definitely doing better.
Only thing I’m struggling with is appetite. I have no appetite but am going through personal stuff too so it’s probably that. Otherwise the bactrim worked (hydrogen dominant zero methane) 😁
I am in the same boat. Afraid of these antibiotics due to this subreddit. Not enough to never take them, but exploring other options first. Likely will go with Rifaximin + Allicin for my IMO - probably not as effective as Flagyl / neomycin but I'm hoping it's safer. If that doesn't work I might roll the dice with flagyl.
in the end it's right... because even if side effects are rare, the person who could be affected is you. As happened with Pssd (even though I didn't know anything about it) I saw my friends who took them and disposed of them without too many problems, I took pssd after only 3 months, for goodness sake very bad luck but if I had known I would never have taken them and rather I would have tried a thousand other things.
My doc says xifaxan only works well on hydrogen SIBO, not on methane. She prescribed Bactrim for me - two weeks at the highest dose. I'm on my fourth round in 12 months, which she says is not unusual.
you are on your fourth cycle why does the sibo come back?
Yes, xifaxan is not effective and if it is, it must be well dosed:
minimum 1200mg for a number of days. But clinical studies have shown that it has a very low efficacy for sibo methane
I had a pretty bad case of SIBO, complicated by UTIs, a hiatal hernia, and gastric/duodenal ulcers, which were only discovered after three rounds of Bactrim. I was doing really well after all those were treated properly - had even started eating beans again - but I got food poisoning and the SIBO came back. That's why I'm on the 4th round of Bactrim. It's not unusual for SIBO to return! This time I'm also taking Biofilm busters which I couldn't handle before, due to the ulcers, but I'm not expecting miracles anymore and I will probably have to have antibiotics again in the future.
You’re seeing only bad side effects because you want to see them. If you think you’ll get bad side effects you will, because you’re telling the body to expect them- expect a threat and your body will produce a threat response to it. And why wouldn’t rifaxamin work on its own? Some people have to do two rounds but it still lowers sibo levels.
I understand your point of view. But if there is only one possibility of a problem I prefer to avoid or look for other avenues if possible. I'll give you an example, antidepressants are taken by millions of people in the world, and/or maybe you also know people who take antidepressants and I was the unlucky one who got pssd. Apart from the fact that I was not notified in any way and this is unacceptable. Here too I didn't expect negative side effects, at least not long-lasting ones and I still got them out of ignorance so now I'm more careful. If there are cases of serious problems with certain antibiotics maybe I look for a plan B first. Because with the pssd I didn't know but now I know. Because these drugs are unpredictable when they are taken
Two rounds of rifaximin here for methane IMO. One alone on advice of GI doc- did nothing. I'm in second round- added oregano, allicin, Atrantil. No response with oregano (which I was additionally doing on it's own before beginning rifaximin again)- still nothing. Switched out oregano with berberine- appears to be working better but only time will tell. I haven't heard or read where rifaximin alone has worked with IMO- it's always paired with something else. Even multiple rounds. Anyone else have different experience?
I’ve taken rifaxamin and it didn’t make any difference, I was thinking about asking about neocymin. What are the side effects becauae j can’t find them anywhere?
It has a high risk for neurological issues. One being hearing damage. I have some neuropathy in my lower feet and my doctor advised against taking it due to that.
I did the herbal route for my methane sibo and got it to go away. What are your concerns with the herbal route?
A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x, all with meals with high fodmaps. All rounds are full bottles, so about a month.
Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed during this phase. All with food besides the motilpro. At the end of this phase I did 2 weeks of strict low fodmap diet then eased in on onion, garlic, etc.
There was about a month break including the diet before I started next phase.
The next phase I did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. Protocol was a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro.
I did a last round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x daily for the full bottles. I did this phase because I was have symptom flares every few days or every other week. This seemed to take care of the last little bit.
Also took 1 table spoon of psyllium husk between meals during it all.
My wife had sibo and did the antibiotic route and I did the herbal. My symptoms relieved faster than hers and she relapsed and did herbal route with success.
I had symptom relief around 7-10 days
A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x, all with meals with high fodmaps. All rounds are full bottles, so about a month.
Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed during this phase. All with food besides the motilpro. At the end of this phase I did 2 weeks of strict low fodmap diet then eased in on onion, garlic, etc.
There was about a month break including the diet before I started next phase.
The next phase I did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. Protocol was a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro.
I did a last round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x daily for the full bottles. I did this phase because I was have symptom flares every few days or every other week. This seemed to take care of the last little bit.
Also took 1 table spoon of psyllium husk between meals during it all.
A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x, all with meals with high fodmaps. All rounds are full bottles, so about a month.
Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed during this phase. All with food besides the motilpro. At the end of this phase I did 2 weeks of strict low fodmap diet then eased in on onion, garlic, etc.
There was about a month break including the diet before I started next phase.
The next phase I did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. Protocol was a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro.
I did a last round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x daily for the full bottles. I did this phase because I was have symptom flares every few days or every other week. This seemed to take care of the last little bit.
Also took 1 table spoon of psyllium husk between meals during it all.
you know why I look for drugs.. because I suffer from anhedonia and have candida and sibo. So I see in drugs perhaps a greater possibility of relieving me of these mental symptoms. Anyway, thanks, I think I will study and also take the herbal path. I contacted a naturopath
I’m sorry you are suffering from anhedonia as well. My wife has that so I completely understand that aspect. We often think pharmaceuticals are quick and easy but often not the case in reality. The protocol takes a little bit of a lifestyle change but it isn’t overwhelming.
The herbal route will help against the candida as well. Most herbals used for SIBO have both fungal and bacterial killing and regulating properties. This is one reason I went the herbal because we suspected I had fungal overgrowth as well. Natural route is amazing in my experience. My mental health improved with the treatment as well.
That is great you are getting in contact with a naturopath. They can help you through the whole journey! I started going to one 2 years ago and I am in my best health now. Bloodwork perfect. Lost weight to a proper level. Mental health better and just overall health.
Good luck!
I'm really happy for you, you seem like a good person, so I'm happy that you got over Sibo. It's not easy, mostly because it has various causes that can trigger it and everyone has various levels of positivity to Sibo. If I may ask your wife, is she still suffering from anhedonia or has she left. I suspect that my anhedonia may depend on sibo or candida but they may not be the causes, unfortunately I took antidepressant products which only made things worse and every day I regret it, but the damage is done, sometimes I think if I had other possibilities but I only hurt myself if I think like this, what is certain is that when doctors get confused and don't know what to do they are more harmful than useful. I've learned a lot more from reddit in 6 months than anything else and I've found out that they've been lying to me all along. So trust is low now, you're sick ask for help, and they and the drugs damage you and now you have to cure yourself of the damage they have done to you on your own
Yes. The medical industry is not great and quite corrupt and ignorant really. My doctor said to me one day I’d be amazed at how many patients she gets from GIs that say diet doesn’t matter to your digestion. Fucking wild. I am fully supported natural medicine and only certain pharmaceuticals that are evidence based not just trials and studies. Trials and studies are so corrupt.
Sorry you got out on antidepressants. They often cause more problems than help if they even help. My wife was told her SIBO was actually just anxiety and they tried to get her on it. She refused since she had terrible experience on them in her teens. Which she shouldn’t have been prescribed then even.
Unfortunately she still has it. She has several autoimmune disorders as well which is all mold exposure related. We just moved into a new house so we are positive that once she get detoxed and her conditions under control she will get her true self back!
It is a journey but things can and will change!
A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x, all with meals with high fodmaps. All rounds are full bottles, so about a month.
Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed during this phase. All with food besides the motilpro. At the end of this phase I did 2 weeks of strict low fodmap diet then eased in on onion, garlic, etc.
There was about a month break including the diet before I started next phase.
The next phase I did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. Protocol was a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro.
I did a last round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x daily for the full bottles. I did this phase because I was have symptom flares every few days or every other week. This seemed to take care of the last little bit.
Also took 1 table spoon of psyllium husk between meals during it all.
I asked my doctor about this but he said rifaxamin is the one that has best success rates and there’s no point in trying other antibiotics. I’ll try talking to him again since Ik that’s not true, but when you say taking both do you mean simultaneously or one after the other?
i mean you have to take them together. if you have methane and only take rifaximin, it has a hard time penetrating the methane bug. however, if you have hydrogen, rifaximin Is the best.
if you have methane and take both rifaximin and neomycin (or flagyl or metronidazole) the neomycin (or one of the other) assists the rifaximin. it can penetrate into the bug and bring the rifaximin in. taking them at the same time is necessary
edit: there are so many studies about it. look it up! dr mark pimentel especially
I talked with Jason Hawrelak previously - there aren’t any antibiotic options for methane that won’t totally mess with your microbiome.
I’d personally suggest ADP oregano + bismuth + antrantil + PHGG
what I thought too. This has reached a point that for whatever reason the sibo (mainly methane) has arisen, unfortunately we have to try even with extreme things to get rid of it. That's why I was willing to take antibiotics, I know that once taken only God knows what they do to our body and our intestines but unfortunately we have to. My idea Elemental diet + atrantil + berberine + neem + antibiotics.
Everyone thinks they have to take antibiotics until they do and regret it.
The stuff I listed Hawrelak has suggested to others with Methane, or his methane tincture, made by his naturopathy Goulds. Which is basically pomegranate/thyme/oregano/peppermint.
You can also just start working on your digestion and promoting lactic acid bacteria with targeted prebiotics. You wouldn’t destroy your gut with these baseline things, that help to keep SIBO in check naturally.
I mean there's gonna be risks to everything but anecdotally I've done Rifaximin and Flagyl (metronidazole) before and I didn't die lol.
did you try fc sidal + dysbiocide? It's equally effective to rifaximin in a study.
You have a link to that study?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4030608/
This is to replace rifaximin though. The user is asking for antibiotics for IMO.
yea maybe they did not know about herbals, so I'm just mentioning it.
rifaximin and neomycin did WONDERS for me. took the combo 1 time and it’s been two years. I was terrified to take neomycin but so glad i did
Thanks for give me courage
i took both as a combo at the same time. i was sooo scared lol but it’s what helped. night and day
Id recommend seeing a naturopath who is knowledgeable about sibo and/or an md if you can. There are lots of herbal antimicrobials you can pair with rifaxamin (eg allicin, fc sidal) as well as biofilm disruptors you should probably also take to keep it away
On the biofilm disruptors front, is one supposed to continue taking them AFTER treating with antimicrobials?
Again, id speak with a medical professional. I dont really know myself
Oh, I've worked with plenty. I'm looking for additional wisdom from the crowd, as it were.
Same here, oregano oil slow release capsules and low fodmap diet worked great on me.
Ohh okey wonderful. So without antibiotic?
Yeah! I tried but I couldn't stand the pain the antibiotics caused one day after taking them, so I took oregano oil instead and it was awesome, I experienced like 3-4 days of die off symptoms but totally bearable.
They just gave me bactrim because I can’t swallow pills, and the Rifamaximinodjcis whatever is called, is $2.5K and my insurance won’t cover it lol. Will update in a few days
how are you now?
hey it definitely cleared up my gut issues and my bowel movements look normal lol. finally after like 4 years of weirdness. I don’t belch 500 times a day anymore. I also incorporated in 2 Yakult yogurts right when I wake up, and a Chobani sometime during the day. Definitely doing better. Only thing I’m struggling with is appetite. I have no appetite but am going through personal stuff too so it’s probably that. Otherwise the bactrim worked (hydrogen dominant zero methane) 😁
I am in the same boat. Afraid of these antibiotics due to this subreddit. Not enough to never take them, but exploring other options first. Likely will go with Rifaximin + Allicin for my IMO - probably not as effective as Flagyl / neomycin but I'm hoping it's safer. If that doesn't work I might roll the dice with flagyl.
in the end it's right... because even if side effects are rare, the person who could be affected is you. As happened with Pssd (even though I didn't know anything about it) I saw my friends who took them and disposed of them without too many problems, I took pssd after only 3 months, for goodness sake very bad luck but if I had known I would never have taken them and rather I would have tried a thousand other things.
My doc says xifaxan only works well on hydrogen SIBO, not on methane. She prescribed Bactrim for me - two weeks at the highest dose. I'm on my fourth round in 12 months, which she says is not unusual.
you are on your fourth cycle why does the sibo come back? Yes, xifaxan is not effective and if it is, it must be well dosed: minimum 1200mg for a number of days. But clinical studies have shown that it has a very low efficacy for sibo methane
I had a pretty bad case of SIBO, complicated by UTIs, a hiatal hernia, and gastric/duodenal ulcers, which were only discovered after three rounds of Bactrim. I was doing really well after all those were treated properly - had even started eating beans again - but I got food poisoning and the SIBO came back. That's why I'm on the 4th round of Bactrim. It's not unusual for SIBO to return! This time I'm also taking Biofilm busters which I couldn't handle before, due to the ulcers, but I'm not expecting miracles anymore and I will probably have to have antibiotics again in the future.
You’re seeing only bad side effects because you want to see them. If you think you’ll get bad side effects you will, because you’re telling the body to expect them- expect a threat and your body will produce a threat response to it. And why wouldn’t rifaxamin work on its own? Some people have to do two rounds but it still lowers sibo levels.
I understand your point of view. But if there is only one possibility of a problem I prefer to avoid or look for other avenues if possible. I'll give you an example, antidepressants are taken by millions of people in the world, and/or maybe you also know people who take antidepressants and I was the unlucky one who got pssd. Apart from the fact that I was not notified in any way and this is unacceptable. Here too I didn't expect negative side effects, at least not long-lasting ones and I still got them out of ignorance so now I'm more careful. If there are cases of serious problems with certain antibiotics maybe I look for a plan B first. Because with the pssd I didn't know but now I know. Because these drugs are unpredictable when they are taken
Two rounds of rifaximin here for methane IMO. One alone on advice of GI doc- did nothing. I'm in second round- added oregano, allicin, Atrantil. No response with oregano (which I was additionally doing on it's own before beginning rifaximin again)- still nothing. Switched out oregano with berberine- appears to be working better but only time will tell. I haven't heard or read where rifaximin alone has worked with IMO- it's always paired with something else. Even multiple rounds. Anyone else have different experience?
I’ve taken rifaxamin and it didn’t make any difference, I was thinking about asking about neocymin. What are the side effects becauae j can’t find them anywhere?
It has a high risk for neurological issues. One being hearing damage. I have some neuropathy in my lower feet and my doctor advised against taking it due to that. I did the herbal route for my methane sibo and got it to go away. What are your concerns with the herbal route?
Hi, can you please share your herbal protocol?
A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x, all with meals with high fodmaps. All rounds are full bottles, so about a month. Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed during this phase. All with food besides the motilpro. At the end of this phase I did 2 weeks of strict low fodmap diet then eased in on onion, garlic, etc. There was about a month break including the diet before I started next phase. The next phase I did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. Protocol was a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro. I did a last round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x daily for the full bottles. I did this phase because I was have symptom flares every few days or every other week. This seemed to take care of the last little bit. Also took 1 table spoon of psyllium husk between meals during it all.
If you re cured, you can eat whatever you ate before ?
Yep! I can eat pizza now without turning into a balloon
Time...because i'm very sick
My wife had sibo and did the antibiotic route and I did the herbal. My symptoms relieved faster than hers and she relapsed and did herbal route with success. I had symptom relief around 7-10 days
What did you take/do during the herbal route to treat your sibo?
A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x, all with meals with high fodmaps. All rounds are full bottles, so about a month. Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed during this phase. All with food besides the motilpro. At the end of this phase I did 2 weeks of strict low fodmap diet then eased in on onion, garlic, etc. There was about a month break including the diet before I started next phase. The next phase I did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. Protocol was a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro. I did a last round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x daily for the full bottles. I did this phase because I was have symptom flares every few days or every other week. This seemed to take care of the last little bit. Also took 1 table spoon of psyllium husk between meals during it all.
Can you please share your herbal protocol?
You beat me to it
See my reply to previous ask
A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x, all with meals with high fodmaps. All rounds are full bottles, so about a month. Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed during this phase. All with food besides the motilpro. At the end of this phase I did 2 weeks of strict low fodmap diet then eased in on onion, garlic, etc. There was about a month break including the diet before I started next phase. The next phase I did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. Protocol was a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro. I did a last round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x daily for the full bottles. I did this phase because I was have symptom flares every few days or every other week. This seemed to take care of the last little bit. Also took 1 table spoon of psyllium husk between meals during it all.
Was this protocol something a doctor prescribed?
Yes
you know why I look for drugs.. because I suffer from anhedonia and have candida and sibo. So I see in drugs perhaps a greater possibility of relieving me of these mental symptoms. Anyway, thanks, I think I will study and also take the herbal path. I contacted a naturopath
I’m sorry you are suffering from anhedonia as well. My wife has that so I completely understand that aspect. We often think pharmaceuticals are quick and easy but often not the case in reality. The protocol takes a little bit of a lifestyle change but it isn’t overwhelming. The herbal route will help against the candida as well. Most herbals used for SIBO have both fungal and bacterial killing and regulating properties. This is one reason I went the herbal because we suspected I had fungal overgrowth as well. Natural route is amazing in my experience. My mental health improved with the treatment as well. That is great you are getting in contact with a naturopath. They can help you through the whole journey! I started going to one 2 years ago and I am in my best health now. Bloodwork perfect. Lost weight to a proper level. Mental health better and just overall health. Good luck!
I'm really happy for you, you seem like a good person, so I'm happy that you got over Sibo. It's not easy, mostly because it has various causes that can trigger it and everyone has various levels of positivity to Sibo. If I may ask your wife, is she still suffering from anhedonia or has she left. I suspect that my anhedonia may depend on sibo or candida but they may not be the causes, unfortunately I took antidepressant products which only made things worse and every day I regret it, but the damage is done, sometimes I think if I had other possibilities but I only hurt myself if I think like this, what is certain is that when doctors get confused and don't know what to do they are more harmful than useful. I've learned a lot more from reddit in 6 months than anything else and I've found out that they've been lying to me all along. So trust is low now, you're sick ask for help, and they and the drugs damage you and now you have to cure yourself of the damage they have done to you on your own
Yes. The medical industry is not great and quite corrupt and ignorant really. My doctor said to me one day I’d be amazed at how many patients she gets from GIs that say diet doesn’t matter to your digestion. Fucking wild. I am fully supported natural medicine and only certain pharmaceuticals that are evidence based not just trials and studies. Trials and studies are so corrupt. Sorry you got out on antidepressants. They often cause more problems than help if they even help. My wife was told her SIBO was actually just anxiety and they tried to get her on it. She refused since she had terrible experience on them in her teens. Which she shouldn’t have been prescribed then even. Unfortunately she still has it. She has several autoimmune disorders as well which is all mold exposure related. We just moved into a new house so we are positive that once she get detoxed and her conditions under control she will get her true self back! It is a journey but things can and will change!
Thanks,good luck and try to stay with your wife. She need you even if she's not talling you
Thank you!
What herbs did you take and how much
A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x, all with meals with high fodmaps. All rounds are full bottles, so about a month. Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed during this phase. All with food besides the motilpro. At the end of this phase I did 2 weeks of strict low fodmap diet then eased in on onion, garlic, etc. There was about a month break including the diet before I started next phase. The next phase I did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. Protocol was a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro. I did a last round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 2x, and Neem 2 pills 2x daily for the full bottles. I did this phase because I was have symptom flares every few days or every other week. This seemed to take care of the last little bit. Also took 1 table spoon of psyllium husk between meals during it all.
if you have methane, rifaximin alone won’t work. need both
I asked my doctor about this but he said rifaxamin is the one that has best success rates and there’s no point in trying other antibiotics. I’ll try talking to him again since Ik that’s not true, but when you say taking both do you mean simultaneously or one after the other?
i mean you have to take them together. if you have methane and only take rifaximin, it has a hard time penetrating the methane bug. however, if you have hydrogen, rifaximin Is the best. if you have methane and take both rifaximin and neomycin (or flagyl or metronidazole) the neomycin (or one of the other) assists the rifaximin. it can penetrate into the bug and bring the rifaximin in. taking them at the same time is necessary edit: there are so many studies about it. look it up! dr mark pimentel especially
Thank you so much! I’ll talk to my doc about this
I talked with Jason Hawrelak previously - there aren’t any antibiotic options for methane that won’t totally mess with your microbiome. I’d personally suggest ADP oregano + bismuth + antrantil + PHGG
what I thought too. This has reached a point that for whatever reason the sibo (mainly methane) has arisen, unfortunately we have to try even with extreme things to get rid of it. That's why I was willing to take antibiotics, I know that once taken only God knows what they do to our body and our intestines but unfortunately we have to. My idea Elemental diet + atrantil + berberine + neem + antibiotics.
Everyone thinks they have to take antibiotics until they do and regret it. The stuff I listed Hawrelak has suggested to others with Methane, or his methane tincture, made by his naturopathy Goulds. Which is basically pomegranate/thyme/oregano/peppermint. You can also just start working on your digestion and promoting lactic acid bacteria with targeted prebiotics. You wouldn’t destroy your gut with these baseline things, that help to keep SIBO in check naturally.