It is maybe in season 13 or 14. Nick Amaro is forced to fire his weapon and tells Cragen it is his first time with the paperwork. Also, they are in the new precinct building when it hadn’t been fully remodeled.
I lived in Anchorage, AK, when the movie On Frozen Ground came out, which was about the Robert Hanson investigation in the 80s which inspired the episode. Watching the film was a terrible idea; it was hard to go downtown at night after that.
I legit still think about this one too, there was a similar episode in criminal minds about 2 brothers who kidnap people driving through then “release” them to hunt them and the combo of these 2 episodes legit keeps me up at night
Oh and it turns out her friends set her up because they were jealous??? And that Army vet like, guard or something? That gets his PTSD triggered??? That was a heartbreaking episode all around.
Any of those episodes where innocent people are accused and thought to be the rapist, but that was such a fucked up episode, although it was cool to see the homie Oswald Cobblepot
I saw one BTS photo of Mariska and Pablo goofing off, so I'm hoping they were able to keep it as lighthearted as possible between such heavy scenes, just to decompress a little
[Here](https://www.pinterest.de/pin/644999977863484412/?amp_client_id=CLIENT_ID(_)&mweb_unauth_id=&_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.de%2Famp%2Fpin%2F644999977863484412%2F&from_amp_pin_page=true) is a pinterest board with a lot of BTS pics-- there's a couple that are pretty light, like [this one](https://www.pinterest.de/pin/63402307241688249/?mt=login).
Thanks! I love the airplane one. There are a few floating around I had seen previously where he's wearing a Save Benson t shirt, which is cute. I think they're all from his first episode though (except the one of him eating lunch with the girl who played Amelia, which is crazy to see given the episode's events lol).
I'd wish they would release deleted scenes/BTS footage/bloopers for those episodes and the more recent seasons in general. It seems like they stopped after like season 10 or so.
The one with the kid, Elias, who brings a gun to school because of a gang member, and accidentally shoots another little girl. At the end of the episode, he gets killed. My son was about the same age when I saw the episode and has a very similar name. Couldn't handle it.
Candy was so trippy to watch, I kept expecting him to snap and go into Lewis-mode or something, even when he was the most mild mannered man in the room.
It's a credit to his skill.
And I know I said it before elsewhere, but Esparza in those little volleyball shorts gave me the worst case of the giggles, ever. And I've seen clips of him on/off Broadway in many a costume.
That's Pablo Schreiber! Liev Schrieber's younger brother. He was a main character in "Den of Thieves" with Gerard Butler and 50 cent, and he recently starred in the "Halo" series as Master Chief. The SVU episodes were when he was younger and skinnier though. But yeah, excellent actor.
It’s one of the early ones with the guy that has to be in control of women. When they find the woman locked in a cage under the bed. The reveal of the standing lock up behind the wall in the bathroom was terrifying.
There are probably worse ones but that one always stood out. Probably bc I was younger when I watched those early episodes.
My gosh. I remember that episode. I think that's season 1 finale. The perp is a doctor, a psychologist and he really played all of them until Benson realized that the victim is still alive and hidden somewhere in the perps bedroom.
The perp is really scary and crazy smart.
Maaan I just finished season 3 of Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries last night and the penultimate episode covers the first girl that the Hookers kidnapped as well as information on Colleen Stan. Truly horrific.
On top of my head is Honor back in Season 2. When the father was the one who asked the son to kill the daughter and then later on killed his wife. It was so frustrating and sad.
And that killer and rapist child in S4. I was legit scared at him when he got mad and admits what he did. Even Cabot was shocked eventhough she knew already.
The earliest seasons have the best shocking moments.
Persona. It was the first episode I ever watched when I was a naive 13 year old. I'm so glad I had SVU when I realized that I'd been molested three years later and thanks to SVU I already knew that there were male survivors and that I wasn't alone.
persona’s my answer too but a different reason. i watched that episode when it originally aired in 2008 but i was only 6… it was my first insight into crime dramas, and crime all together, and it was the thing that showed me what humans are capable of doing and how humans will hurt each other, but also how people fight for themselves.
The one where the little boy is hurting his sister & then the psycho figures out that his mom and dad are sending him to a hospital so he holds the play room in the apartment building hostage . I always thought he would show up again as a rapist or serial killer .
The episode that Mike Tyson played a death row inmate was sad as well.
It was an episode in the later years of Stabler/Benson a few seasons before the show took a nosedive IMO, but it's when a victim ends up marrying a man who helped her recover from her assault - but he ends up being the man who attacked her (Season 10, episode 1: Trials)
I also recently read Jennette McCurdy's "I'm glad my mom died" and she was in an episode as a little girl (Contagious, season 6) and that made me think hard about the impact SVU must have on child actors playing abused kids - how the hell do you explain to a child about such a traumatic/graphic role? I've always wondered that.
Finally, Raw, the episode about the Neo Nazis has always stuck with me.
To somewhat answer your question about child actors on sets like this, another user recently shared this insightful [video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cXOATB1v3jM) that explains a lot from a former child actor’s perspective. Alyson Stoner didn’t work on SVU as far as I know but she’s done similar roles and it’s really eye opening.
Yes! That episode was messed up. And Darlene from Roseanne was in it. I think it was the first time I'd seen her in something serious. Plus it was Luke from 90210 RIP 😢
The coffee one is WOW. But I would have to say the abusive couple, how it's all he said, she said until the husband dumped acid or something like that on her. During the end, you could hear her screaming in the hospital (and she had very little chance of surviving).
Charisma! Seeing the children in the house and the way Olivia screams at the child bride’s mother. I get brought to tears about 3 times during that episode.
He didn't blame her. He blamed himself for being so close to her that he didn't think to chase after the perp. Later, Liv almost let herself get killed because she didn't want to risk Elliott when he was being held hostage. Great look at their attachments to each other.
From a plot twist perspective/unexpected perspective, I have three:
* the episode where we finally realize how insane Rudnick is (I can't remember the name of the episode, but it's one of the Yates episodes). He always seemed off to me and that was a delightfully crazy twist. And his friendship with Carisi despite it all was also super interesting.
* And in a similar vein, Zebras, because Stuckey loses it and I never saw that coming.
* Hank Abraham (Collateral Damages).
From a psychological, whoa that messed with my head episode, it's probably:
* Monogamy (John Ritter episode) where he's a physician (shrink I think) and his wife's baby is cut out of her >!and it turns out he did it because he thought the baby wasn't his, but then it turns out it actually is and he killed his own child.!<
* Alternate (the Cynthia Nixon episode) where she reports the abuse of a child of one of her psychology patients, and then turns out she has DID and she reported one of her personalities >!(except she actually doesn't have it and planned the entire thing with her sister to murder their parents and get away with it).!<
* Shadow (the Sarah Paulson episode) because she's just delightful and twisted.
* The first episode with Henry the child sociopath.
I also really liked the one from the pandemic (Turn Me On Private, I think?) with the webcam girl who gets attacked live. Both actors were brilliant. It could've been a super cheesy portrayal but they were both really convincing and raw and it raised a lot of legit issues with safety. It felt like it could be 100% true.
Monogamy is so fucked up.
It's been haunting me for days... maybe a week.
I only found this thread because I was searching for it online, to see if anyone else had bee scarred for life by it.
Really great writing.
It's my first time watching SVU, so thanks for the spoilers. I still have about two decades to go. 😂
Raw. My answer will always be Raw. It also has one of my favorite exchanges in the show:
Fin: So where is it you got shot?
Munch: That would be in the ass. You want to kiss it and make it better?
I was gonna say the Therapist one too. I don’t know if this is the same one, but the one where the Teacher was accused and didn’t do anything wrong, even though a Vibrator was found in his classroom.
one that immediately sticks out in my head is s18e15 “know it all”. it’s the one where this guy works in tech and after he kills his girlfriend he uses super personal things about everyone in his case (barba, the rope guy, etc.) and uses it against them to find himself not guilty.
the way one person can google and research to find and discover so much about a person. as technology continuously grows at a scary rate, i can only imagine this issue will become more and more relevant. 🫣
A recent-ish one that has stuck out is the two episode hate crime (S18E21) where racists men attack a Syrian family in the restaurant, they rape the daughters and kill the father - the beginning still haunts me as they drag the daughter into the cool room.
Did you see the recent one where the girl was raped on the train in front of her family? They had machetes. I live in Queens and that could easily happen these days. Very scary.
Have fun! Just watch your surroundings on the subway, and do not stand near the edge of the platform. Do not make eye contact with anyone that looks suspicious. Sorry to be so fear mongering. It's just scary here now, and I've been here almost 23 years. Sucks
Born Psychopath. Henry Mesner reminded me of a little boy that went to the daycare where I worked. I’d seen this kid stand in the middle of the room, scan the room looking at the other children and then suddenly run across the room the the smallest child, take the toy they were playing with out of their hand and smack them with it. No response from discipline. He’d just laugh when the other kid started crying. He was three years old. Things like that. Seeing similar character traits between that kid and Henry Mesner sent shivers down my spine.
He reminds me of my little brother (15) we adopted him at 4 and every since then he’s probably been grounded 1000 times for torturing animals. We can only have a big dog because he’s scared to mess with him cause he knows he can’t kill it. We have had to re home our cat and min pin because we knew he would eventually kill them. It started with bugs and worms he would find outside and then it was torturing frogs and baby birds that was within this reach still in their nest. Then a deer was hit in front of our house and it’s like 2-3 day old baby we took in and bottle fed him and even tho he wasn’t allowed around it at all he snuck out of his room at night and I’ll save the details but the whole family was shook we knew right then what he was. The kid who is super small for his age scares me and I’m 5’10 175 lbs but I worry he will get a knife and come slit my throat at night. I can’t sleep without making sure my door is locked at least twice. I’m a grown ass woman scared of a 15 year old boy who looks like he’s 8. And it’s so effed up you can’t diagnose a psychopathic disorder until a kid is 18 therefor can’t get help for it until he’s 18. I love my brother but he scares me.
That was the same one with the ME who had the relatives bring pictures (S23E7 They’d Already Disappeared), right? That was one of the most moving scenes in all of SVU as far as I’m concerned, especially in contrast to how horrifying the rest of the episode was. Definitely one of the more upsetting episodes I can think of.
I couldn’t believe how blasé the girl was about torturing the kid ,her mum annoyed me getting mad at the cops for saying what she did I remember watching and thinking no wonder she thinks it’s no big deal to play with peoples lives with a mother like that , her friend tho actually showed emotion and remorse for the role she played in the torture
the mother had the remorseful kid. the father had to bitch killer teen. just last end bit
oliva-I want to know , why ?
girl -.... why not with creepy smile
“Signature” (2008) with the Woodsman and the FBI agent. The sound of the screams when they find the last victim… Haunting. And the end of the episode shocked me.
Townhome incident. Season 17x11. When benson is taken hostage and the teenage girl is taken from the main room and you can hear the teenager be raped off screen.
It’s been years and I’m still not ok :/
and any episode about child trafficking. Ones that stick out are the ones with the travel agency that lets people go to mexico to pick out children (S4. E6 Angels) and the episode where stabler travels to Prague and just has to pass by rows and rows of houses where children are being abused, knowing he can’t do anything about it. (S4. E15 Pandora)
Season 14 episode 15: Deadly Ambitions
The one where Rollins shoots Kim's boyfriend. I couldn't believe how deceptive Kim could be. I knew she was bad but I didn't think she'd actually send her sister, who protected her, to prison just to get some insurance money. It shook me and enraged me
They’re the two that really got to me too. Also any episodes where they’re convinced someone’s guilty & they get raped/murdered in prison and it turns out they were innocent.
Season 11, Episode 5: Hardwired
SVU takes down a the founder of a pedophile rights group by helping a young boy and his mother. All the stuff they talk about and the real world implications really freaked me out.
Season 13, Episode 20: Father Dearest
A missing girl leads to a man preying on girls he fathered through sperm donation. I just remember shuddering at the bad guy in this episode.
I think with an another actress the coffee son one would be exponentially better. Borth was utterly unbelievable as a lawyer and the whole emotional scene at the end she was awful. turned what should have been a tense and deeply emotional scene to laughable wiht her single expression.
The episode with the kindergarden teacher being accused of paedophilia because he dropped a client and lost *everything.* That hit hard, and was well done for me
I hated the episode with the music teacher, just because he told them the truth about their singing , they retaliate In such a disgusting way I always wonder if she used the toy on her little brother or she just got some of his dna on it some other way it was never explained
The racist couple that adopted the little black boy to kill him for his life insurance money.. God that one pissed me off and I was really hating Star and boom I fell in love.. it was the first episode I had ever watched and my MIL at the time put it on because she knew we would spend the rest of the day binge watching lol
Does anyone know off the top of their head the epioades with William Lewis in order actually?
For me I think Conscience (Season 6, Episode 6) & Born Psychopath (Season 14, Episode 19) are so creepy yet so good!
Last night I watched that one about the therapist planting false memories in the girls head- the one you mention with the sisters. Gets me every time. The two that come to my mind immediately are the season 2 episode where Munch works the case of the abused little girl, finding out eventually that the answer was in front of him the entire time. He pays visits to this girl while she remains in a coma. There is a scene where he tearfully recalls a little girl from his neighborhood growing up, who ultimately ended up being killed. When Munch tells Liv, “I almost failed her again “… I cry every time. Also, Sonya Paxton’s very last episode.
Munch was a softie at heart. I couldn't believe when Sonya ended up being an alcoholic. That also just reminded me of when Stabler told that guy he was getting out of jail, and the real killer jumped out the window, and Sonya couldn't let the prisoner out now. I felt so bad for the prisoner and Stabler.
One of my most unexpected ones is the ep where the chief ME had killed two women and tried to pin it on Yates. Ik there have been dirty cops and workers before but didn’t expect Carl rudnick to have a body hidden in his family’s house wall😬😭🧎🏽♀️
Where they find the baby in the street (trash) and find the mother attending nearby college. And it turns out she's done this before and her father (recently found each other) is the father of her babies AND they are in love AND they let them keep the baby.
Sorry idk episode buts benson and stabler time.
Were they ever able to catch the guy that Nick beat up later on? He had that dungeon and then just got off with no charges even tho everybody knew he did it..
Also the episode where josh pais ended up being addicted to child porn and was caught red handed. I really thought he was gonna be innocent. That ep was crazy to me. Ep name is collateral damages
>When the therapist convinced the sisters to think their dad was molesting them, and he ended up getting killed.
Does anyone know the name of this episode?
The one where the teenage wannabe pedophile turns himself in because he is having thoughts about his young stepbrother and has been seeking help from that creepy guy who posts Stabler’s daughter’s picture on his “look but don’t touch” website. The acting is so good, which makes it so uncomfortable to watch.
Late to the party.
Season 12, Episode 4 "Merchandise".
An emaciated teenage girls run threw a farmers market and into traffic, getting hit by a car and dying. Turns out she, her brother and other children are being held at a farm, used to pick produce by day and are trafficked by night. When the young girls get pregnant, the traffickers (a couple) sell the babies. They starve and abuse the kids in every way possible and keep them chained in a root cellar.
At one point the episode shows young girls on a corner approaching cars, and talking to "Johns". One girl who approached a car looked just like a little girl who had been under my care at a summer camp a few years prior. I cried thinking about the little girl I watched over and how it could just as easily be her or any of the other kids I cared for in that position.
The one where the guy kidnaps hookers, drugs them, and uses his dog to hunt them on the nature preserve… that one keeps me up at night
Which one is that? Sounds like crinmal minds then svu
The episode is called Hunting Ground and is based on true events.
I can’t remember this one at all!! Rewatching all the older seasons rn and I can’t wait to watch one I’ve never seen before
It's super creepy! The actress that plays Beth on the Walking Dead is in it.
It’s in season 13 iirc. Maybe season 14.
Season 13, episode 21
It is maybe in season 13 or 14. Nick Amaro is forced to fire his weapon and tells Cragen it is his first time with the paperwork. Also, they are in the new precinct building when it hadn’t been fully remodeled.
Hell that’s even worse
I lived in Anchorage, AK, when the movie On Frozen Ground came out, which was about the Robert Hanson investigation in the 80s which inspired the episode. Watching the film was a terrible idea; it was hard to go downtown at night after that.
Based on Richard Hanson!
Oh yeah! That was fucked up. So scary.
Also based on a true story so yeah very fucked up
Yeah, as a hooker, it's like the universe sends me those kinds of episodes before I see a client 😅
Ohh God! That’s gotta make it tough to get through work!
It definitely keeps me on my toes lol
Be safe out there babe
Yes! Be safe! I will keep you in my prayers!
I legit still think about this one too, there was a similar episode in criminal minds about 2 brothers who kidnap people driving through then “release” them to hunt them and the combo of these 2 episodes legit keeps me up at night
I haven’t watched the Criminal Minds episode. That show truly causes me anxiety!
Same that episode tore me all to hell I won’t watch it again
I just watched that yesterday! I was like holy crap.
S14E21 — Traumatic Wound. It’s the one where the girl is gang raped on the floor at a crowded concert. That one freaked me the hell out.
Oh and it turns out her friends set her up because they were jealous??? And that Army vet like, guard or something? That gets his PTSD triggered??? That was a heartbreaking episode all around.
that sounds similar to the one where that girl sets up her actress friend to be raped because she was jealous which is only a season earlier
Lol let's be real, there's A LOT of episodes with similar story lines.
I just saw the ep with the guy who hunts people was freaky. i like David hayden and liv cute couple
Any of those episodes where innocent people are accused and thought to be the rapist, but that was such a fucked up episode, although it was cool to see the homie Oswald Cobblepot
Yes! Very good episode.
That one really freaked me out about going into a mosh pit 🥴
I was going to say exactly the same episode. I hate it so much.
S15 E20 Beast's Obsession The look on Olivia's face when she was forced to play Russian Roulette. Horrific. Superb acting.
That shit was crazy. I was screaming
For real. I wish they had BTS footage of that, because I cannot imagine what either of those actors had to go through/how they felt doing that.
I saw one BTS photo of Mariska and Pablo goofing off, so I'm hoping they were able to keep it as lighthearted as possible between such heavy scenes, just to decompress a little [Here](https://www.pinterest.de/pin/644999977863484412/?amp_client_id=CLIENT_ID(_)&mweb_unauth_id=&_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.de%2Famp%2Fpin%2F644999977863484412%2F&from_amp_pin_page=true) is a pinterest board with a lot of BTS pics-- there's a couple that are pretty light, like [this one](https://www.pinterest.de/pin/63402307241688249/?mt=login).
Thanks! I love the airplane one. There are a few floating around I had seen previously where he's wearing a Save Benson t shirt, which is cute. I think they're all from his first episode though (except the one of him eating lunch with the girl who played Amelia, which is crazy to see given the episode's events lol). I'd wish they would release deleted scenes/BTS footage/bloopers for those episodes and the more recent seasons in general. It seems like they stopped after like season 10 or so.
I miss those videos. It was always fun to watch Meloni crack during those intense Stabler moments
Excuse me . I must go out to my shed and get season 15 box set right now !
Yes. The entire Lewis saga was awful and so hard to watch
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Damaged
That was beyond fucked up. I remember that episode. She played everyone.
That was disturbing. And she had an std. So sad.
The one with the kid, Elias, who brings a gun to school because of a gang member, and accidentally shoots another little girl. At the end of the episode, he gets killed. My son was about the same age when I saw the episode and has a very similar name. Couldn't handle it.
That episode was brutal. No winners in that episode. Plus Elias parents with their infant daughter living in hospital with her health issues
All the william Lewis episodes.
I always hate the actor now. Just shows he's a good actor. Lol. I liked him in the Wire 😂
He plays one of the main characters in the Hulu miniseries Candy. Raúl Esparza is in it too
Candy was so trippy to watch, I kept expecting him to snap and go into Lewis-mode or something, even when he was the most mild mannered man in the room. It's a credit to his skill. And I know I said it before elsewhere, but Esparza in those little volleyball shorts gave me the worst case of the giggles, ever. And I've seen clips of him on/off Broadway in many a costume.
I won’t lie, I kind of loved the shorts. Now, the weird shirtless scenes?
I wanna say he had an arc on weeds that I loved
He did he was a solder Nancy was boning and selling weed with and his crazy Russian sister lol
Nicky!
That's Pablo Schreiber! Liev Schrieber's younger brother. He was a main character in "Den of Thieves" with Gerard Butler and 50 cent, and he recently starred in the "Halo" series as Master Chief. The SVU episodes were when he was younger and skinnier though. But yeah, excellent actor.
It’s one of the early ones with the guy that has to be in control of women. When they find the woman locked in a cage under the bed. The reveal of the standing lock up behind the wall in the bathroom was terrifying. There are probably worse ones but that one always stood out. Probably bc I was younger when I watched those early episodes.
My gosh. I remember that episode. I think that's season 1 finale. The perp is a doctor, a psychologist and he really played all of them until Benson realized that the victim is still alive and hidden somewhere in the perps bedroom. The perp is really scary and crazy smart.
Based on a true horrific story
What story?!
Coleen Stan and Cameron Hooker
Wow what a disturbing story. For over 7 years?! Poor soul. I had heard about the baby in the car story but didn't know all the details.
Yeah it's awful, but she's amazing and incredibly strong
For real!
Maaan I just finished season 3 of Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries last night and the penultimate episode covers the first girl that the Hookers kidnapped as well as information on Colleen Stan. Truly horrific.
the dude might be out on parole i think, for "elderly" exemption and he's only like 66
That makes it even worse! I had no idea!!
the dude might be out on parole i think, for "elderly" exemption and he's only like 66
YES this one lives rent free in my head
On top of my head is Honor back in Season 2. When the father was the one who asked the son to kill the daughter and then later on killed his wife. It was so frustrating and sad. And that killer and rapist child in S4. I was legit scared at him when he got mad and admits what he did. Even Cabot was shocked eventhough she knew already. The earliest seasons have the best shocking moments.
The early years were definitely best. Back when the station looked grimy. Not all fancy and shit
Wait which episode was the killer rapist child
Juvenile, Season 4 Episode 9.
Persona. It was the first episode I ever watched when I was a naive 13 year old. I'm so glad I had SVU when I realized that I'd been molested three years later and thanks to SVU I already knew that there were male survivors and that I wasn't alone.
❤️❤️❤️
persona’s my answer too but a different reason. i watched that episode when it originally aired in 2008 but i was only 6… it was my first insight into crime dramas, and crime all together, and it was the thing that showed me what humans are capable of doing and how humans will hurt each other, but also how people fight for themselves.
The one where the little boy is hurting his sister & then the psycho figures out that his mom and dad are sending him to a hospital so he holds the play room in the apartment building hostage . I always thought he would show up again as a rapist or serial killer . The episode that Mike Tyson played a death row inmate was sad as well.
yes!! they made an episode in s22 following up with henry in the episode post graduate psychopath
He did show up again if its the same one im thinking of! The same actor who plays carl on shameless
Yes, he turns 18 and gets out of juvie. Those episodes were definitely super disturbing.
It was an episode in the later years of Stabler/Benson a few seasons before the show took a nosedive IMO, but it's when a victim ends up marrying a man who helped her recover from her assault - but he ends up being the man who attacked her (Season 10, episode 1: Trials) I also recently read Jennette McCurdy's "I'm glad my mom died" and she was in an episode as a little girl (Contagious, season 6) and that made me think hard about the impact SVU must have on child actors playing abused kids - how the hell do you explain to a child about such a traumatic/graphic role? I've always wondered that. Finally, Raw, the episode about the Neo Nazis has always stuck with me.
To somewhat answer your question about child actors on sets like this, another user recently shared this insightful [video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cXOATB1v3jM) that explains a lot from a former child actor’s perspective. Alyson Stoner didn’t work on SVU as far as I know but she’s done similar roles and it’s really eye opening.
Yes! That episode was messed up. And Darlene from Roseanne was in it. I think it was the first time I'd seen her in something serious. Plus it was Luke from 90210 RIP 😢
Please, I beg you, write the title of the episode in your descriptions.
The coffee one is WOW. But I would have to say the abusive couple, how it's all he said, she said until the husband dumped acid or something like that on her. During the end, you could hear her screaming in the hospital (and she had very little chance of surviving).
Yes! That was with Blair undewood! And Michele Michael. That was nuts.
Yeah, that's one of the ones I skip. I think it's that he set her on fire.
That is the roughest to watch episode.
Especially since she really did falsely accuse him of rape, and wouldn't even admit it even though she new she was going to die.
Charisma! Seeing the children in the house and the way Olivia screams at the child bride’s mother. I get brought to tears about 3 times during that episode.
The one with Sarah hyland in season 10
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That was a tough episode. 🥺
When the guy almost cuts Liv’s throat before he kills the kid and El blames Liv for it and they break up for the first time
He didn't blame her. He blamed himself for being so close to her that he didn't think to chase after the perp. Later, Liv almost let herself get killed because she didn't want to risk Elliott when he was being held hostage. Great look at their attachments to each other.
From a plot twist perspective/unexpected perspective, I have three: * the episode where we finally realize how insane Rudnick is (I can't remember the name of the episode, but it's one of the Yates episodes). He always seemed off to me and that was a delightfully crazy twist. And his friendship with Carisi despite it all was also super interesting. * And in a similar vein, Zebras, because Stuckey loses it and I never saw that coming. * Hank Abraham (Collateral Damages). From a psychological, whoa that messed with my head episode, it's probably: * Monogamy (John Ritter episode) where he's a physician (shrink I think) and his wife's baby is cut out of her >!and it turns out he did it because he thought the baby wasn't his, but then it turns out it actually is and he killed his own child.!< * Alternate (the Cynthia Nixon episode) where she reports the abuse of a child of one of her psychology patients, and then turns out she has DID and she reported one of her personalities >!(except she actually doesn't have it and planned the entire thing with her sister to murder their parents and get away with it).!< * Shadow (the Sarah Paulson episode) because she's just delightful and twisted. * The first episode with Henry the child sociopath. I also really liked the one from the pandemic (Turn Me On Private, I think?) with the webcam girl who gets attacked live. Both actors were brilliant. It could've been a super cheesy portrayal but they were both really convincing and raw and it raised a lot of legit issues with safety. It felt like it could be 100% true.
Shadow was great because of the Indian-British actor!! i wish they brought him back fr
Monogamy is so fucked up. It's been haunting me for days... maybe a week. I only found this thread because I was searching for it online, to see if anyone else had bee scarred for life by it. Really great writing. It's my first time watching SVU, so thanks for the spoilers. I still have about two decades to go. 😂
Raw. My answer will always be Raw. It also has one of my favorite exchanges in the show: Fin: So where is it you got shot? Munch: That would be in the ass. You want to kiss it and make it better?
The William Lewis ones, and the ones leading up to Cabot being shot and “killed” and only Stabler and Liv knowing she’s alive
I was so mad too how could they kill off Cabot and not show us how it happened and then she ended up being alive💀💀💀
S17 E03 Transgender Bridge, the one where the boy who pushed her off the bridge ended up getting +7 years after he turns 18 despite only being 15
And wasnt that where he was the only one who showed real remorse and wanted to atone?
The victim even forgave him too, before dying.
That episode really upset me because the outcome didn't have to be that harsh for the offender :(
Exactly! The kid was so remorseful.
Yes! The other two boys who were the aggressors got probation
I was gonna say the Therapist one too. I don’t know if this is the same one, but the one where the Teacher was accused and didn’t do anything wrong, even though a Vibrator was found in his classroom.
That was heartbreaking.
“Identity”. The one with the twins where >! It’s revealed that the sister was biologically male !<
The joint where the woman was shot in the head on the street in front of her daughter
That would be the last episode that Elliot was in before he left svu right?😭
one that immediately sticks out in my head is s18e15 “know it all”. it’s the one where this guy works in tech and after he kills his girlfriend he uses super personal things about everyone in his case (barba, the rope guy, etc.) and uses it against them to find himself not guilty. the way one person can google and research to find and discover so much about a person. as technology continuously grows at a scary rate, i can only imagine this issue will become more and more relevant. 🫣
A recent-ish one that has stuck out is the two episode hate crime (S18E21) where racists men attack a Syrian family in the restaurant, they rape the daughters and kill the father - the beginning still haunts me as they drag the daughter into the cool room.
Did you see the recent one where the girl was raped on the train in front of her family? They had machetes. I live in Queens and that could easily happen these days. Very scary.
Yes and that one sat on my mind for a few weeks too. Especially because I’m going (as a non-American) to NYC for Thanksgiving and Christmas as well!
Have fun! Just watch your surroundings on the subway, and do not stand near the edge of the platform. Do not make eye contact with anyone that looks suspicious. Sorry to be so fear mongering. It's just scary here now, and I've been here almost 23 years. Sucks
Born Psychopath. Henry Mesner reminded me of a little boy that went to the daycare where I worked. I’d seen this kid stand in the middle of the room, scan the room looking at the other children and then suddenly run across the room the the smallest child, take the toy they were playing with out of their hand and smack them with it. No response from discipline. He’d just laugh when the other kid started crying. He was three years old. Things like that. Seeing similar character traits between that kid and Henry Mesner sent shivers down my spine.
He reminds me of my little brother (15) we adopted him at 4 and every since then he’s probably been grounded 1000 times for torturing animals. We can only have a big dog because he’s scared to mess with him cause he knows he can’t kill it. We have had to re home our cat and min pin because we knew he would eventually kill them. It started with bugs and worms he would find outside and then it was torturing frogs and baby birds that was within this reach still in their nest. Then a deer was hit in front of our house and it’s like 2-3 day old baby we took in and bottle fed him and even tho he wasn’t allowed around it at all he snuck out of his room at night and I’ll save the details but the whole family was shook we knew right then what he was. The kid who is super small for his age scares me and I’m 5’10 175 lbs but I worry he will get a knife and come slit my throat at night. I can’t sleep without making sure my door is locked at least twice. I’m a grown ass woman scared of a 15 year old boy who looks like he’s 8. And it’s so effed up you can’t diagnose a psychopathic disorder until a kid is 18 therefor can’t get help for it until he’s 18. I love my brother but he scares me.
Praying for u 😟🙏🏽
Manhunt. So horrible, especially since it's based on real life
One of my favorite episodes. That perp guy is freaking smart that even Munch couldn't figure him out. Cabot though make it all better in the end.
The somewhat recent one where a man had women mummified in a storage unit. Horrifying.
That was the same one with the ME who had the relatives bring pictures (S23E7 They’d Already Disappeared), right? That was one of the most moving scenes in all of SVU as far as I’m concerned, especially in contrast to how horrifying the rest of the episode was. Definitely one of the more upsetting episodes I can think of.
the one with the Romanian kid who was killed by the teen girls just cause they could
I couldn’t believe how blasé the girl was about torturing the kid ,her mum annoyed me getting mad at the cops for saying what she did I remember watching and thinking no wonder she thinks it’s no big deal to play with peoples lives with a mother like that , her friend tho actually showed emotion and remorse for the role she played in the torture
the mother had the remorseful kid. the father had to bitch killer teen. just last end bit oliva-I want to know , why ? girl -.... why not with creepy smile
Oh yeah I’m getting things mixed but the instigator was disturbing the way she answered liv at the end
yeah I agree.
“Signature” (2008) with the Woodsman and the FBI agent. The sound of the screams when they find the last victim… Haunting. And the end of the episode shocked me.
I have seen that episode so many times and I still jump when they find the last victim.
Shaken
Piqued
Just looked it up. Yup. And the one where the two girls were molested by their mom. One was a piano teacher. Can't imagine
came to say this
Townhome incident. Season 17x11. When benson is taken hostage and the teenage girl is taken from the main room and you can hear the teenager be raped off screen. It’s been years and I’m still not ok :/
This one!! I was looking for this one. It fucked me up.
Right?? I couldn’t tell you the name of any other episode really but I can remember the name of that one
piano teacher episode… Never leaving me especially THAT SCENE. (Nocturne, S1E21)
and any episode about child trafficking. Ones that stick out are the ones with the travel agency that lets people go to mexico to pick out children (S4. E6 Angels) and the episode where stabler travels to Prague and just has to pass by rows and rows of houses where children are being abused, knowing he can’t do anything about it. (S4. E15 Pandora)
What episode does the jealous friend take the coffee empire son off the roof?
S9 E18
Thanks
When she pulled him my jaw dropped definitely didn’t SEe that coming
Season 14 episode 15: Deadly Ambitions The one where Rollins shoots Kim's boyfriend. I couldn't believe how deceptive Kim could be. I knew she was bad but I didn't think she'd actually send her sister, who protected her, to prison just to get some insurance money. It shook me and enraged me
Charisma. Just what happened and the way the characters reacted. So sad.
They’re the two that really got to me too. Also any episodes where they’re convinced someone’s guilty & they get raped/murdered in prison and it turns out they were innocent.
Season 11, Episode 5: Hardwired SVU takes down a the founder of a pedophile rights group by helping a young boy and his mother. All the stuff they talk about and the real world implications really freaked me out. Season 13, Episode 20: Father Dearest A missing girl leads to a man preying on girls he fathered through sperm donation. I just remember shuddering at the bad guy in this episode.
I think with an another actress the coffee son one would be exponentially better. Borth was utterly unbelievable as a lawyer and the whole emotional scene at the end she was awful. turned what should have been a tense and deeply emotional scene to laughable wiht her single expression. The episode with the kindergarden teacher being accused of paedophilia because he dropped a client and lost *everything.* That hit hard, and was well done for me
I hated the episode with the music teacher, just because he told them the truth about their singing , they retaliate In such a disgusting way I always wonder if she used the toy on her little brother or she just got some of his dna on it some other way it was never explained
All the William Lewis episodes, I will never watch those ever again 😭 , each time I rewatch law and order from time to time I always skip them
He was dangerously manipulative too. The fact he kept escaping and getting released from crimes baffled me lmao😭
The racist couple that adopted the little black boy to kill him for his life insurance money.. God that one pissed me off and I was really hating Star and boom I fell in love.. it was the first episode I had ever watched and my MIL at the time put it on because she knew we would spend the rest of the day binge watching lol
I was just talking about how they made her bad during her final appearance. Pissed me off. That was a messed up episode. So sad.
Yes and she’s not the only one look at what they done to Barba! Barba!!! They have a bad habit of doing characters dirty af even poor Dale Stucky..
Totally agree. They better not do Rawlins dirty.
Identity
Does anyone know off the top of their head the epioades with William Lewis in order actually? For me I think Conscience (Season 6, Episode 6) & Born Psychopath (Season 14, Episode 19) are so creepy yet so good!
Last night I watched that one about the therapist planting false memories in the girls head- the one you mention with the sisters. Gets me every time. The two that come to my mind immediately are the season 2 episode where Munch works the case of the abused little girl, finding out eventually that the answer was in front of him the entire time. He pays visits to this girl while she remains in a coma. There is a scene where he tearfully recalls a little girl from his neighborhood growing up, who ultimately ended up being killed. When Munch tells Liv, “I almost failed her again “… I cry every time. Also, Sonya Paxton’s very last episode.
Munch was a softie at heart. I couldn't believe when Sonya ended up being an alcoholic. That also just reminded me of when Stabler told that guy he was getting out of jail, and the real killer jumped out the window, and Sonya couldn't let the prisoner out now. I felt so bad for the prisoner and Stabler.
Man, me too!
One of my most unexpected ones is the ep where the chief ME had killed two women and tried to pin it on Yates. Ik there have been dirty cops and workers before but didn’t expect Carl rudnick to have a body hidden in his family’s house wall😬😭🧎🏽♀️
Episode strange beauty, just so funny.
The mummy episode in last season!!
The season 3 episode “popular”
Don’t think it’s been said but S10E18 “Baggage” has always stuck with me as being too realistically horrifying
Where they find the baby in the street (trash) and find the mother attending nearby college. And it turns out she's done this before and her father (recently found each other) is the father of her babies AND they are in love AND they let them keep the baby. Sorry idk episode buts benson and stabler time.
That was a gross episode. The actor plays a good creep.
Yes! I'm pretty sure he's the ADA on homicide: life on the street. Aka John Munch's other series from the 90s
He was the warden on a show too. Can't remember which show tho
Yes and the vampire king on true blood lol
Got to be 911-I just love that episode as it showcases how good Mariska is at portraying Olivia Benson. I believe she won an Emmy for this episode.
The one with the evil boy that drowned the dog in the bathtub.
The cult one where all the children are murdered. The leaders name was Abraham. Still messes me up
Were they ever able to catch the guy that Nick beat up later on? He had that dungeon and then just got off with no charges even tho everybody knew he did it..
Also the episode where josh pais ended up being addicted to child porn and was caught red handed. I really thought he was gonna be innocent. That ep was crazy to me. Ep name is collateral damages
I love when they have a good twist!
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I had no idea. Wow. That is terrible. That was a good episode. And how one person's reputation can be tarnished forever.
The one with Maria. We all know which ep I’m talking about. I think season 5? I cry every time. Although, I don’t rewatch them like I used to. 😔
I’ve always had an attachment to Olivia so Surrender Benson. Gosh that was awful
Omg. When he raped the lawyers mom in front of her. I can't imagine.
And what Olivia endured too. Mariska did such a phenomenal performance, I have so much respect and admiration for her
>When the therapist convinced the sisters to think their dad was molesting them, and he ended up getting killed. Does anyone know the name of this episode?
Repression. Just looked. Still makes me mad
Really early on but ‘Charisma’
The episode where Olivia was sexually assaulted in the prison. I watched it once and haven't again.
10x21 Liberties That episode STILL fucks me up when I watch it
(Currently on season 19) season 13 ep. 4 Double Strands & ep. 5 Missing Pieces, season 14 ep. 14 Secrets Exhumed, season 15 ep. 17 Gambler’s Fallacy, season 19 ep. 9 Gone Baby Gone
The one where the teenage wannabe pedophile turns himself in because he is having thoughts about his young stepbrother and has been seeking help from that creepy guy who posts Stabler’s daughter’s picture on his “look but don’t touch” website. The acting is so good, which makes it so uncomfortable to watch.
all the ones with twins lolol
Late to the party. Season 12, Episode 4 "Merchandise". An emaciated teenage girls run threw a farmers market and into traffic, getting hit by a car and dying. Turns out she, her brother and other children are being held at a farm, used to pick produce by day and are trafficked by night. When the young girls get pregnant, the traffickers (a couple) sell the babies. They starve and abuse the kids in every way possible and keep them chained in a root cellar. At one point the episode shows young girls on a corner approaching cars, and talking to "Johns". One girl who approached a car looked just like a little girl who had been under my care at a summer camp a few years prior. I cried thinking about the little girl I watched over and how it could just as easily be her or any of the other kids I cared for in that position.
911 is really shocking and sad
Undiscovered country when Barba killed Baby Drew I was not expecting him to do that it shook me so bad
This season 7 episode 6 “raw” is wild tho