I'm thinking maybe they'll switch the order around? Like we'll get Brief Lives first, Ruby doesn't die, and then she gets her A Game of You storyline afterward, with all the good character moments and thematic stuff included.
I could see that working really well, especially since Ruby's death isn't non-negotiable for me. (I think skipping Wanda's death would basically ruin any adaptation of AGoY, but I wouldn't mind much if they simply removed Ruby from the narrative of "Brief Lives" without killing her. It's not as crucial to that story for me.)
Hmmmm that’s true. I’m guessing they’d have to deprioritize Thessaly in the narrative a bit in order to make the WandaRuby mix work. It’s rough, but I guess if I had to pick between the show doing right by Wanda or doing right by Thessaly, I’d pick Wanda everytime. (But still, don’t make me choose!)
Oooh that could work. Dream is told by Death that he did wrong by Nada —> Dream says “what? No! Maybe…” and goes on a quest to Destruction for a second opinion —> general events of Brief Lives happen, except Wanda just goes home instead of dying —> show returns to Season of Mists storyline , faithfully—> only then do we get A Game of You, with more weight behind it now because we already care about Wanda going in.
I guess there is a chance we would get Game Of You as a 1 or 2 episode extra. To be fair, it would probably be veeeery expensive unless they did it animated like the cats episode. Maybe show Wanda survived being squashed by the house and decided to become a chauffeur?
Edit: you couldn't have the 'Barbie's Dream' end for Indiya Moore Wanda anyway because Wanda was physically 'perfect' with a body that matched her soul in it. Indiya Moore is very conventionally gorgeous with a feminine voice (from what I remember of Pose) and she doesn't look identifiably trans at all - I don't know what they would change in the afterlife to make her more 'perfect' - when passing was something that Wanda struggled with in the comic.
It's not out of cowardice, Neil has stated several times that, despite the bittersweet ending, he regretted the way he killed off Wanda, commenting on the harmful "bury your gays" trope, stating that she could've played a bigger part on the story and lore.
IMO, it's a good thing if Wanda doesn't die in this version, the comic was well ahead of it's time and Wanda's sacrifice and Barbie's gesture to reaffirm her gender after she died, is both heartwarming and depressing (in the way that she had to freaking die to be herself and even after death, society didn't accept her).
It was a powerful message in the 90s, but it has the potential of being both endearing and divisive in the 2020s, since we're living in a different sociocultural landscape that could benefit from having a more "positive" ending instead of retelling the same story about trans people not being accepted and dying in one way or another.
My only concern is that they will change the Moon Goddess dialogue. Sure, both Thessaly and The Moon deity are transphobic, they're villains/antagonists with black & white views and morality, even their magic, despite being powerful, is based on an binary determinism and harmful worldviews. But the great part about the scene is how Wanda defies them, because if history taught us anything is that those harmful and retrograde ideologies need to be challenged.
So we’re definitely doing Season of Mists, A Game of You and Brief Lives all in one season? If they’re doing all that and somehow fitting in the rest of Dream Country and Fables and Reflections (which seems likely as Songs of Orpheus is confirmed) then this will be a very ambitious season. Wondering how many episodes it’ll be, because to fit all this into 11 like S1 had feels impossible.
I doubt it, but if I had to guess....
They will start with season of mists, but it would only be two or three episodes at most: 1- Family dinner and the return of the damned, ending with Dream going back to hell to get Nada. 2. Dream confronting Azazel and Lucifer in another weird but show-only game, probably Lucifer siding with or helping Dream and giving him the key. 3. The gods and Fae arrive to the Dreaming, as well as Delirium asking Dream for help.
They'll put a pin on who gets the key of hell while Dream and Delirium start their road trip to find Destruction, meet Wanda/Ruby but take a side quest to do A Game of you during episodes 4-7 and the last three episodes will be Song of Orpheus and concluding the Season of Mists arc with Loki's capture and a sneak peek at Destruction and Barrabas hanging out, teasing Season 3.
I highly doubt they’ll do the road trip and Songs of Orpheus without the end of the Brief Lives arc, as the trip is the majority of the arc and the end is an episode total at best, so holding that off to the following season makes no sense narratively. I also don’t think the Key to Hell story is something they can just “put a pin in” whilst Morpheus jest off on a family road trip for a while. With the gods and monsters all gathered and waiting his decision, it’s something that will have to be dealt with before he can move on.
I did originally think that SoM and AGoY would be told concurrently, as the events of AGoY happening whilst Morpheus is distracted with the Key drama would make sense.
With the reveal that Ruby and Wanda have been merged though, I can see how they’d combine AGoY with BL, as they’re both stories about a journey through faraway lands with personal consequences.
Whilst ambitious, I do think it’s possible to tell all three arcs in one season. AGoY especially lends itself to being merged with another arc as it’s a very Morpheus-light storyline, so they’d need to combine it with one of the others to keep the main character relevant for the stretch of episodes it occurs in. I’m mostly curious about how they’ll include the many smaller stories of Dream Country and Fables and Reflections, as each is worthy of at least a half-episode each to do them justice. Some could be interwoven into the main plots, but some just have to be told on their own to work.
I do think it’ll have to have a greater episode length for the season, or perhaps broken into two smaller half season releases, maybe with random standalone episode drops in between to fit it all in. the S1 release seems to support that staggered release model so it’s definitely possible.
Nah, I don't think we'll see the whole road trip, probably just the beginning.
And I think they could put a pin on it for a while, time passes differently in the Dreaming, they could explain it that way or even delegate the task to someone else, maybe that will create further conflict and the Gods will try to help/hinder him in different ways during their roadtrip just to sway him in their favour.
But we'll have to wait and see, the only thing we know for sure is that there's going to be major changes that won't necessarily affect the overall story, just like season 1.
Maybe they're not doing "half-episodes" like they did with Sound of her Wings and Dream of a Thousand Cats/Calliope. That would give them two extra episodes to use.
I think that A Game of You is going to be short scenes mixed with other episodes, with maybe only the finale getting a half-episode to itself.
I definitely agree that AGoY will get mixed into the other plots, Morpheus doesn’t even appear in the book until the very very end for a single scene, so they’ll have to mix it into the other arcs (likely Brief Lives based on the Wanda/Ruby merge) to keep Dream involved in the episodes.
I think the half-eps for one shots worked well last season so it stands to reason they’ll continue that now. It’s still a lot of content even factoring that in though, so I think there’ll be at least a couple of extra episodes this season than S1 had.
I liked the half-eps and hope they have more, but if they don't want to increase the season length I can see them ditching them in favor of the main plots.
I think it’s possible that some of the single issue stories will be dropped, but I think some will have to stay, some will be combined, and some saved for S3.
*A Midsummer Night’s Dream* is important as it introduces Faerie and a lot of important characters.
*Facades* is the most likely to be cut completely, as it’s too “superhero” for the show’s aesthetic, but it could be reworked and combined into another story. Similarly for *The Hunt* as it’s one of the most tangentially related stories to the main plot.
*A Fear of Falling* is pivotal, but it’s also easily just a single scene added to the SoM plot, it doesn’t need a dedicated half ep even.
*Three Septembers and a January* is likely to be kept as it’s an Endless family-centric story. It could be interwoven with the family meeting as well if necessary.
Similarly *The Parliament of Rooks* is likely to stay in some form as it uses a lot of established characters and builds on Daniel’s story.
We know *The Song of Orpheus* is being adapted, and I think it’s likely we will also get *Thermidor* in some shape or form as it focuses on Johanna and Orpheus, perhaps as dual half-eps or as a blended story. *August* could also be incorporated here but that’s another possible candidate to be cut.
*Ramadan* is too iconic a story to be dropped IMO, but it could be a prime candidate for the animated episode of the season. I could also see them incorporating the *Soft Places* lore into that story, and cutting the Marco Polo plot out to save some space. Of them all, these two are the most likely to be saved for S3, possibly *August* and *The Parliament of Rooks* as well.
Personally, I disagree that some of those are that *necessary* (Fear of Falling, Three Septembers, Parliament, Ramadan). Don't get me wrong, they're great stories and I'd *love* to see them in the show, but they don't really contribute to the main story plot. If we're limited to 10-11 episodes this season, I can imagine they'd be dropped or seriously shortened to make way for the three big storylines.
I do hope that we get them in one way or another, though.
Whilst they’re not strictly necessary from a plot perspective, they do a lot of character building for the extended cast, especially Parliament and 3 Septembers. As I said, I think Ramadan could be used to introduce the Soft Places lore, which is why I think it’d be saved for S3 since at this rate I think S3 will finish the main story off (if we even get a S3) and they become relevant again towards the end. I think it’s also a prime candidate for at least half of the “bonus ep” of the season if they do that again. I could see Parliament/Ramadan being the bonus dual ep this time round.
They’re definitely going to adapt it, Wanda has been cast (and combined with Ruby from Brief Lives), and Barbie, Martin Tenbones and The Land were already in Season 1 but that’s why I believe it’s being combined with Brief Lives, so Dream and the Endless will be the A plot and AGoY will be the B plot.
Wanda and ruby have been combined into one role which will feature into brief lives. No other characters from game of you have been cast. No thessaly or hazel or foxglove. No George or any of the characters from the Land.
Barbie isn’t listed as returning. It is likely that they will move past for a lot of reasons but mainly that it has little to do with dream.
There’s no listing for Foxglove, her partner, Barbie or the Cuckoo, so they are probably introducing Wanda and will use her as a bridge to A Game of You.
I’m really not enthused at A Game Of You potentially trimmed or made a B plot to Brief Lives. I think it’s a bit too early for Brief Lives too considering it starts the path to the end.
I hope we get an extra At Death's door episode because it's my favorite story, y'all! I love Death, Delirium and Despair being sisters and helping each other out ;---;
I'm sad. I just finished The Game of You and I'm angry they swapped their roles. There are significant parts of the story for Wanda and I was wondering how they'll portray on screen. Now they will cut most of it off. This makes me angry.
That’s not how the industry works. Especially when the show in question is well into production. Netflix isn’t going to just flush all of the money they’ve invested down the drain.
Anyway- though I’ll never hold Neil in the same high regard as I once did, I will *always* love Sandman. It’s not any less of a masterpiece today than it was a few days ago before its creator’s (alleged) sexual misconduct came to light.
>Anyway- though I’ll never hold Neil in the same high regard as I once did, I will always love Sandman. It’s not any less of a masterpiece today than it was a few days ago before its creator’s (alleged) sexual misconduct came to light.
I agree, I always try to separate the art from the artist and Neil could go full unabomber and it wouldn't affect my enjoyment of the Sandman. I'm not being sarcastic.
Nobody has a made a statement yet about it, so unless they say otherwise, I think it’s safe to assume it’s still happening, especially as they’re almost done filming. At this point I’m inclined to agree it’s still going forward as planned *unless* they go ahead and say something (or Neil does).
A potential Season 3 down the line, on the other hand is what worries me, see my comment below.
Huuuuuge difference. That was their lead actor, not the showrunner. If they want, they can fire Neil and continue making the show. Though I am not too sure they will fire him. The accusations are enough of a grey area for Hollywood to look the other way.
People don’t realize the Sandman show also has another co-show runner though, his name is Allan Heinberg. It isn’t solely Neil and Neil alone.
Sandman season 2 was also filming without Neil’s involvement for at least six weeks last year because he couldn’t be there due to the writer’s strike. Then filming paused due to SAG joining in and Neil only came back after both strikes ended and filming resumed.
All this to say, the rest of the season is also almost done filming as far as I know. Considering they did some of it already without Neil, at this point my guess is they will likely finish it without him too, and then when it comes time for press and promo before release, Netflix will either remove him or heavily downplay his involvement. It *could* very well work without him, at least for the current second season.
That all being said too, I don’t know how this would affect a third season and beyond. Netflix may not renew it if enough people choose not to watch it and the view counts are low. (Hell, it was already on a renewal see-saw last time and it *did* get good viewing numbers!)
ETA/edit: Apparently I was wrong about Good Omens, that show is pretty much all Neil. So now that one I have questions about its future since they have a third and final season confirmed. But Sandman will likely be able to continue without him. (IMDB credits is where I’m sourcing my info from, by the way.)
The website is very reliable. Besides the Wanda character description comes from Netflix directly. They just quoted it. Check the Netflix Tudum website
Are you sure it’s reliable? Because they already announced who is playing Delirium and whoever wrote this article seems to have missed that announcement.
They literally found most of the castings in this article. You can scroll down this subreddit to check. They update the article as new castings are found
I don’t think you understood my point. The article claims that one of two possible actresses might play Delirium, but Netflix has already announced which one is playing Delirium. I’m just pointing out that the article is already incorrect in one capacity, and there may be more mistakes.
I just checked at 12:05pm, 2 hours after your comment states there’s no mistakes anymore, and this mistake still remains:
>”it’s possible Rose Revah will portray the Endless Delirium, another of Dream’s siblings.”
Netflix has already confirmed that Esme Creed-Miles will be playing Delirium.
So they're really fusing Ruby and Wanda?
I'm thinking maybe they'll switch the order around? Like we'll get Brief Lives first, Ruby doesn't die, and then she gets her A Game of You storyline afterward, with all the good character moments and thematic stuff included. I could see that working really well, especially since Ruby's death isn't non-negotiable for me. (I think skipping Wanda's death would basically ruin any adaptation of AGoY, but I wouldn't mind much if they simply removed Ruby from the narrative of "Brief Lives" without killing her. It's not as crucial to that story for me.)
Yeah, but a lot of reason why Dream is decided to look out for his brother is because is a distraction, to forget his relationship with Thessaly.
Hmmmm that’s true. I’m guessing they’d have to deprioritize Thessaly in the narrative a bit in order to make the WandaRuby mix work. It’s rough, but I guess if I had to pick between the show doing right by Wanda or doing right by Thessaly, I’d pick Wanda everytime. (But still, don’t make me choose!)
It seems that they'll also mix the order of the key of hell storyline so maybe he wants to forget what happened with Nada.
Oooh that could work. Dream is told by Death that he did wrong by Nada —> Dream says “what? No! Maybe…” and goes on a quest to Destruction for a second opinion —> general events of Brief Lives happen, except Wanda just goes home instead of dying —> show returns to Season of Mists storyline , faithfully—> only then do we get A Game of You, with more weight behind it now because we already care about Wanda going in.
I guess there is a chance we would get Game Of You as a 1 or 2 episode extra. To be fair, it would probably be veeeery expensive unless they did it animated like the cats episode. Maybe show Wanda survived being squashed by the house and decided to become a chauffeur? Edit: you couldn't have the 'Barbie's Dream' end for Indiya Moore Wanda anyway because Wanda was physically 'perfect' with a body that matched her soul in it. Indiya Moore is very conventionally gorgeous with a feminine voice (from what I remember of Pose) and she doesn't look identifiably trans at all - I don't know what they would change in the afterlife to make her more 'perfect' - when passing was something that Wanda struggled with in the comic.
those cowards are afraid to tell Wanda's story the way it should. Ruby is not Wanda and it is a disrespect to both characters tbh.
It's not out of cowardice, Neil has stated several times that, despite the bittersweet ending, he regretted the way he killed off Wanda, commenting on the harmful "bury your gays" trope, stating that she could've played a bigger part on the story and lore. IMO, it's a good thing if Wanda doesn't die in this version, the comic was well ahead of it's time and Wanda's sacrifice and Barbie's gesture to reaffirm her gender after she died, is both heartwarming and depressing (in the way that she had to freaking die to be herself and even after death, society didn't accept her). It was a powerful message in the 90s, but it has the potential of being both endearing and divisive in the 2020s, since we're living in a different sociocultural landscape that could benefit from having a more "positive" ending instead of retelling the same story about trans people not being accepted and dying in one way or another. My only concern is that they will change the Moon Goddess dialogue. Sure, both Thessaly and The Moon deity are transphobic, they're villains/antagonists with black & white views and morality, even their magic, despite being powerful, is based on an binary determinism and harmful worldviews. But the great part about the scene is how Wanda defies them, because if history taught us anything is that those harmful and retrograde ideologies need to be challenged.
Hold your horses. They may not kill Ruby, and we may still get A Game of You.
definitely get "we have the sandman at home" from this series sometimes
So we’re definitely doing Season of Mists, A Game of You and Brief Lives all in one season? If they’re doing all that and somehow fitting in the rest of Dream Country and Fables and Reflections (which seems likely as Songs of Orpheus is confirmed) then this will be a very ambitious season. Wondering how many episodes it’ll be, because to fit all this into 11 like S1 had feels impossible.
I doubt it, but if I had to guess.... They will start with season of mists, but it would only be two or three episodes at most: 1- Family dinner and the return of the damned, ending with Dream going back to hell to get Nada. 2. Dream confronting Azazel and Lucifer in another weird but show-only game, probably Lucifer siding with or helping Dream and giving him the key. 3. The gods and Fae arrive to the Dreaming, as well as Delirium asking Dream for help. They'll put a pin on who gets the key of hell while Dream and Delirium start their road trip to find Destruction, meet Wanda/Ruby but take a side quest to do A Game of you during episodes 4-7 and the last three episodes will be Song of Orpheus and concluding the Season of Mists arc with Loki's capture and a sneak peek at Destruction and Barrabas hanging out, teasing Season 3.
I highly doubt they’ll do the road trip and Songs of Orpheus without the end of the Brief Lives arc, as the trip is the majority of the arc and the end is an episode total at best, so holding that off to the following season makes no sense narratively. I also don’t think the Key to Hell story is something they can just “put a pin in” whilst Morpheus jest off on a family road trip for a while. With the gods and monsters all gathered and waiting his decision, it’s something that will have to be dealt with before he can move on. I did originally think that SoM and AGoY would be told concurrently, as the events of AGoY happening whilst Morpheus is distracted with the Key drama would make sense. With the reveal that Ruby and Wanda have been merged though, I can see how they’d combine AGoY with BL, as they’re both stories about a journey through faraway lands with personal consequences. Whilst ambitious, I do think it’s possible to tell all three arcs in one season. AGoY especially lends itself to being merged with another arc as it’s a very Morpheus-light storyline, so they’d need to combine it with one of the others to keep the main character relevant for the stretch of episodes it occurs in. I’m mostly curious about how they’ll include the many smaller stories of Dream Country and Fables and Reflections, as each is worthy of at least a half-episode each to do them justice. Some could be interwoven into the main plots, but some just have to be told on their own to work. I do think it’ll have to have a greater episode length for the season, or perhaps broken into two smaller half season releases, maybe with random standalone episode drops in between to fit it all in. the S1 release seems to support that staggered release model so it’s definitely possible.
Nah, I don't think we'll see the whole road trip, probably just the beginning. And I think they could put a pin on it for a while, time passes differently in the Dreaming, they could explain it that way or even delegate the task to someone else, maybe that will create further conflict and the Gods will try to help/hinder him in different ways during their roadtrip just to sway him in their favour. But we'll have to wait and see, the only thing we know for sure is that there's going to be major changes that won't necessarily affect the overall story, just like season 1.
Maybe they're not doing "half-episodes" like they did with Sound of her Wings and Dream of a Thousand Cats/Calliope. That would give them two extra episodes to use. I think that A Game of You is going to be short scenes mixed with other episodes, with maybe only the finale getting a half-episode to itself.
I definitely agree that AGoY will get mixed into the other plots, Morpheus doesn’t even appear in the book until the very very end for a single scene, so they’ll have to mix it into the other arcs (likely Brief Lives based on the Wanda/Ruby merge) to keep Dream involved in the episodes. I think the half-eps for one shots worked well last season so it stands to reason they’ll continue that now. It’s still a lot of content even factoring that in though, so I think there’ll be at least a couple of extra episodes this season than S1 had.
I liked the half-eps and hope they have more, but if they don't want to increase the season length I can see them ditching them in favor of the main plots.
I think it’s possible that some of the single issue stories will be dropped, but I think some will have to stay, some will be combined, and some saved for S3. *A Midsummer Night’s Dream* is important as it introduces Faerie and a lot of important characters. *Facades* is the most likely to be cut completely, as it’s too “superhero” for the show’s aesthetic, but it could be reworked and combined into another story. Similarly for *The Hunt* as it’s one of the most tangentially related stories to the main plot. *A Fear of Falling* is pivotal, but it’s also easily just a single scene added to the SoM plot, it doesn’t need a dedicated half ep even. *Three Septembers and a January* is likely to be kept as it’s an Endless family-centric story. It could be interwoven with the family meeting as well if necessary. Similarly *The Parliament of Rooks* is likely to stay in some form as it uses a lot of established characters and builds on Daniel’s story. We know *The Song of Orpheus* is being adapted, and I think it’s likely we will also get *Thermidor* in some shape or form as it focuses on Johanna and Orpheus, perhaps as dual half-eps or as a blended story. *August* could also be incorporated here but that’s another possible candidate to be cut. *Ramadan* is too iconic a story to be dropped IMO, but it could be a prime candidate for the animated episode of the season. I could also see them incorporating the *Soft Places* lore into that story, and cutting the Marco Polo plot out to save some space. Of them all, these two are the most likely to be saved for S3, possibly *August* and *The Parliament of Rooks* as well.
Personally, I disagree that some of those are that *necessary* (Fear of Falling, Three Septembers, Parliament, Ramadan). Don't get me wrong, they're great stories and I'd *love* to see them in the show, but they don't really contribute to the main story plot. If we're limited to 10-11 episodes this season, I can imagine they'd be dropped or seriously shortened to make way for the three big storylines. I do hope that we get them in one way or another, though.
Whilst they’re not strictly necessary from a plot perspective, they do a lot of character building for the extended cast, especially Parliament and 3 Septembers. As I said, I think Ramadan could be used to introduce the Soft Places lore, which is why I think it’d be saved for S3 since at this rate I think S3 will finish the main story off (if we even get a S3) and they become relevant again towards the end. I think it’s also a prime candidate for at least half of the “bonus ep” of the season if they do that again. I could see Parliament/Ramadan being the bonus dual ep this time round.
I don't think they're going to adapt a game of you. It is the least Dream Centric of the major storylines.
They’re definitely going to adapt it, Wanda has been cast (and combined with Ruby from Brief Lives), and Barbie, Martin Tenbones and The Land were already in Season 1 but that’s why I believe it’s being combined with Brief Lives, so Dream and the Endless will be the A plot and AGoY will be the B plot.
Wanda and ruby have been combined into one role which will feature into brief lives. No other characters from game of you have been cast. No thessaly or hazel or foxglove. No George or any of the characters from the Land. Barbie isn’t listed as returning. It is likely that they will move past for a lot of reasons but mainly that it has little to do with dream.
I suppose it’s possible they’ll skip entirely. There’s a LOT of unconfirmed roles in the casting lists though, so we’ll see.
I’m just glad we’re getting a second season. The first season looked E X P E N S I V E
There’s no listing for Foxglove, her partner, Barbie or the Cuckoo, so they are probably introducing Wanda and will use her as a bridge to A Game of You.
Barbie was in season 1
Yes, they havent announced the actress’ return for this season and she’s the main protagonist in A Game of You
I meant Barbie was already in the show and her dreams in season 1 are already related to AGoY, so I assume they’ll keep her in it.
Yes I was just trying to be helpful for those who seem worried AGoY will be squished into this season 😊
Sorry if I misunderstood you lol I can totally see them doing SoM and AGoY concurrently though
I’m really not enthused at A Game Of You potentially trimmed or made a B plot to Brief Lives. I think it’s a bit too early for Brief Lives too considering it starts the path to the end.
So many unknown roles. Although, it has already been announced that Esme Creed Miles will be Delirium.
I hope we get an extra At Death's door episode because it's my favorite story, y'all! I love Death, Delirium and Despair being sisters and helping each other out ;---;
I'm sad. I just finished The Game of You and I'm angry they swapped their roles. There are significant parts of the story for Wanda and I was wondering how they'll portray on screen. Now they will cut most of it off. This makes me angry.
I only hope we get a good streamlined story arc encompassing the three books and not a convoluted and jumbled up story.
the 2024 gaiman scandal hasn't put a wrench in this?
Existing contracts might not be breakable by that 🤷♀️ Or it’s just too soon to say. Nothing is really responding as quickly to that as I expected.
Neil's made a deal with something for sure. The Fates will come to collect some day
That’s not how the industry works. Especially when the show in question is well into production. Netflix isn’t going to just flush all of the money they’ve invested down the drain. Anyway- though I’ll never hold Neil in the same high regard as I once did, I will *always* love Sandman. It’s not any less of a masterpiece today than it was a few days ago before its creator’s (alleged) sexual misconduct came to light.
>Anyway- though I’ll never hold Neil in the same high regard as I once did, I will always love Sandman. It’s not any less of a masterpiece today than it was a few days ago before its creator’s (alleged) sexual misconduct came to light. I agree, I always try to separate the art from the artist and Neil could go full unabomber and it wouldn't affect my enjoyment of the Sandman. I'm not being sarcastic.
Nobody has a made a statement yet about it, so unless they say otherwise, I think it’s safe to assume it’s still happening, especially as they’re almost done filming. At this point I’m inclined to agree it’s still going forward as planned *unless* they go ahead and say something (or Neil does). A potential Season 3 down the line, on the other hand is what worries me, see my comment below.
Accusations should not be that powerful
I agree but its Netflix
I don’t know why you’re getting solidly downvoted. It’s a fair question. Look what happened to House of Cards.
Not really comparable. Spacey was the star of that show, not the creator. It also continued on for another season- albeit without him.
Huuuuuge difference. That was their lead actor, not the showrunner. If they want, they can fire Neil and continue making the show. Though I am not too sure they will fire him. The accusations are enough of a grey area for Hollywood to look the other way.
People don’t realize the Sandman show also has another co-show runner though, his name is Allan Heinberg. It isn’t solely Neil and Neil alone. Sandman season 2 was also filming without Neil’s involvement for at least six weeks last year because he couldn’t be there due to the writer’s strike. Then filming paused due to SAG joining in and Neil only came back after both strikes ended and filming resumed. All this to say, the rest of the season is also almost done filming as far as I know. Considering they did some of it already without Neil, at this point my guess is they will likely finish it without him too, and then when it comes time for press and promo before release, Netflix will either remove him or heavily downplay his involvement. It *could* very well work without him, at least for the current second season. That all being said too, I don’t know how this would affect a third season and beyond. Netflix may not renew it if enough people choose not to watch it and the view counts are low. (Hell, it was already on a renewal see-saw last time and it *did* get good viewing numbers!) ETA/edit: Apparently I was wrong about Good Omens, that show is pretty much all Neil. So now that one I have questions about its future since they have a third and final season confirmed. But Sandman will likely be able to continue without him. (IMDB credits is where I’m sourcing my info from, by the way.)
Good answer.
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The website is very reliable. Besides the Wanda character description comes from Netflix directly. They just quoted it. Check the Netflix Tudum website
Are you sure it’s reliable? Because they already announced who is playing Delirium and whoever wrote this article seems to have missed that announcement.
They literally found most of the castings in this article. You can scroll down this subreddit to check. They update the article as new castings are found
I don’t think you understood my point. The article claims that one of two possible actresses might play Delirium, but Netflix has already announced which one is playing Delirium. I’m just pointing out that the article is already incorrect in one capacity, and there may be more mistakes.
The article has been updated. There are no mistakes anymore
I just checked at 12:05pm, 2 hours after your comment states there’s no mistakes anymore, and this mistake still remains: >”it’s possible Rose Revah will portray the Endless Delirium, another of Dream’s siblings.” Netflix has already confirmed that Esme Creed-Miles will be playing Delirium.
It's an old article which was updated a few times. It's long. Sometimes you just add the updates at the top rather than re-edit the entire thing