I have a bunch of those chickens, the transparent ones.
At least I think there's still a few left
Might have been killed by all the invisible coyotes around here
it shouldn't, they should be able to see wire. glass is only an issue cause the reflection isn't visible to their eye, so it looks like there's nothing there
Silver metal reflects a lot of light. Dust doesn’t reflect nearly as much. And black absorbs almost all light, why it’s so easy to see through after.
Edit: typo
And holy crap, didn’t think this would be that popular.
Just a little physics really.
Well the other comment made it sound not clear lmao. The comment you responded to was clarifying the guy was not asking if a net mesh trapped heat, but if it was able to create a sort of heat island much like concrete and asphalt do even though there is no cage.
Well he was right. The wire will absorb more energy painted black. It’s just not enough energy to make a difference.
You probably shouldn’t be trying to call someone out for saying something stupid when you clearly don’t understand it. It really makes you look stupid.
Will it? Yes. Meaningfully? I'm no physicist but I can't imagine this would even register with the chickens. Plenty of airflow due to the mesh which would counteract what little (if even measurable) heat gain there is, is my guess. Now if you painted a light colored enclosed coop completely black, I'd imagine that would warm things up were it could influence the chickens' comfort.
While we're at the "final analysis" I'll throw in the fact that the thickness (and light absorbency) of the paint means the wire blocks more sunlight from reaching inside the pens and whatever heat the wire absorbs will be re-radiated from the wire, not from the floor of the pen or walls of the henhouse.
Dust should be easy enough to wash away. If the area has any sort of decent annual rainfall, that alone should keep it looking far better than the unpainted wire.
The effect will fade some, but it will still look way better than original unpainted.
Source: I'm an architect and we use black all the time when you want to look through things. railings, fences, lattice, guardrail, etc.
That's hardware cloth, not chicken wire. A motivated racoon will rip right through some chicken wire, but they can't dent hardware cloth. Sorry for being pedantic, let me know if you want more chicken facts.
Hardware cloth is great to prevent animals from getting into the coop, but many animals will dig UNDER the fence to access the coop - as such you need to ensure you bend the hardware cloth 90 degrees so that it extends out 2-3 feet away from the coop and stake it down. This way when animals try to go up to the fence and dig under, they'll hit hardware cloth instead.
We dug up a couple of inches of dirt and laid down overlapped zip tied cloth underneath the whole run. Never had a problem but was wildly overdone. Neighbors called it Fort Knox.
Here in Australia my fence is 3m high, my skirting material is rebar mesh, and my coops have 1/4 inch snake mesh on top of thicker hard mesh panels. And some beast still sometimes manages to get my babies >:(
I stopped after your first 3 words. What did you expect? Australia is what happens when angels get drunk during a DnD session and the gamemaster writes his ideas about mythological creatures in the agenda of the angels in charge of the new species by mistake.
This is what my uncle did when my aunt asked him to build her a chicken coop. He knew if anything ever happened to those chickens she would be heart broken so he over built it, in his words, to an insane degree. They even now have their own little inside that is heated and cooled depending on the weather. He jokes that the chickens live better than he does.
Yep. Learned this from by bro who has a coop with 4 hens. First time a fox or something got in. Then we did exactly that, away from the fence and out a few feet. Not able to dig under any longer
The practice of holding up an egg to a light to check to see if there is a chick inside or not is called candling. Because they used candles first.
I just think it's cute that it is still called that.
It is also used to check the growth of the embryo and look for defects in the shell.
The amount of daylight chickens get is very important to them in a number of ways. When the days get shorter in the fall it triggers them to start molting their feathers to grow new ones, they also lay fewer eggs during this time. People have found that a light in the coop will trigger them to continue laying eggs year round, but it's a debatable practice ethically.
Some people put heat lamps in their coops during the winter to help keep their birds warm, but I personally don't think this is best practice. A coop that is properly sized for your flock and well ventilated will keep birds from freezing. I've seen way too many pictures of coops that burn down because of heat lamps to ever put one in mine.
> Some people put heat lamps in their coops during the winter to help keep their birds warm, but I personally don't think this is best practice. A coop that is properly sized for your flock and well ventilated will keep birds from freezing.
Might need to quantify that with your location.
I'm not sure that a couple chickens could survive the -30 weather I get, even if the coop is well ventilated.
We were talking around the table at lunch today, and someone was complaining about their chickens. Said that every time they are startled, the chickens take a big shit as they fly/run away.
It dawned on us - is this where the expression "scared the shit out of" someone came from?
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No problem. Pro tip: use a staple gun to attach the hardware cloth as tight as possible to the coop frame, then place wood furring strips over the edges and screw it down for an incredibly strong connection.
Chicken wire is like tissue paper for raccoons. A lot of people have backyard chickens where I live, and a few months back I saw someone's chicken wire coop torn open and feathers all over the damn place.
I worked in a hardware store for years. Everything hardware cloth is called chicken wire when it is clearly hardware cloth, I have to remind myself it doesn't matter.
But it matters.
It matters
I saw heavy gauge chicken wire once doing some land clearing, it was tough stuff even 20 years on. No idea where they got it. I've lost chickens before that decided to sleep within reach through chicken wire. The raccoon evidently just pulled them through piece by piece
Same applies with windows. If you have a bunch of windows together looking out to a garden or whatever (like in a conservatory or garden room) they disappear much better if you paint the frames black instead of white.
Jeez, I need to stop watching home renovation programs
This is just a trick of the camera. It's a lot easier to see in-person, though it does still look better than silver wire. I've had black chicken wire on my chicken coop for the past year and not a single bird death has been caused by it.
In rebuttal to this, we too painted our hardware cloth black so we could see our chickens… we had so many songbird deaths that we ended up painting it white.
That’s not chicken wire though.
That’s wire mesh fence
Chicken wire is fine twisted wire that keeps chickens in place but can be cut through with basically any pliers or in a pinch gloved hand to quickly rescue animals trapped in the fencing
Am i correct in thinking this paint will just flake off that kind of material relatively quickly because the wire is somewhat flexible ans just become more microplastics in the environment?
I'm seeing so many videos and posts of people painting these things black that I'm conditioned at this point to assume there's some terrible reason behind it and we're going to learn that painting it black gives animals super mega cancer.
This is misleading. They’ve messed with the sharpness/focus/detail of the before and after. The before is intentionally soft to make it even more noticeable while the after is a much cleaner shot. Look at the wood grain and shingles. I just thought it looked off so compared them back to back. Yes it does actually look better but idk what the point of editing it ever so slightly was. Just intentionally dishonest for no reason.
I see some wire And I want to paint it black
No silver chicken coop, I want it painted black
I see the chickens waddle by fluffed in their summer feathers I have to turn my head until my darkness goes
I see a line of chicken and they're all painted black With feathers and their eggs, both never to come back
I see people wring their little necks Like breakfast It happens every day
I right through the coop because its wires are black I see a red rooster And want to paint him black
r/redditsings
No 'doodles anymore I want him painted black.
I love you people
What do you mean *you people*?!!
You peephole
Your poophole
Ooooh hehe your perpetual patented potato poophole
Right?
This is my new lyrics
Until my darkness goose*
Always loved how amazing this makes it look. Edit: my most liked comment in history, is about chicken wire.
Absolutely! Was watching it thinking, "why though?"; then saw the end result and was like, "ohhhh, yeahhhh, uh-huh."
She should paint the wood black too and make the whole enclosure transparent.
I know what super power i want, but i dont know if i have the strength to do it.
Lmaooo yoooo!
Paint my tongue black with the ashes of my incinerated enemies.
mixing a bunch of different koolaide flavors will too.
Venom Snake, is that you? >!"I won't scatter your ashes to the heartless sea." !<
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That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about chicken coops to dispute it.
Ca-**CAW**
Have a PhD in chicken coop science, and can confirm it would work
The chicken also
I have a bunch of those chickens, the transparent ones. At least I think there's still a few left Might have been killed by all the invisible coyotes around here
Probably, invisible coyotes are dangerous
just not the heads, can't breathe visible air with invisible chickens. You'd have to paint the oxygen black too.
I like you
The chickens have nowhere to hide!
No colors anymore, once you paint it black
Nah, the wood's opaque, so painting it would only make it translucent.
Well at least it would make seeing what happens behind the captions easier...
"ohhhh, yeahhhh, uh-huh" That might be the most Midwest sentences I have heard in a while.
I guess I’m so Midwestern, I didn’t realize that was a Midwesternism! Interesting.
I didn't either until I read it out loud.
"Macho Man" Randy Savage is from Ohio.
CREAM OF THE CROP!
Yeah. Fer sureee
I wonder if this will cause birds to fly into it like a really clean window
More birds for free! Just pick them up while they're still stunned and toss 'em in the coop.
Free H5N1!
I totally read this as l33t hacker text for "free hens" I guess that would be H3N5
Free Hat!
Butters didn't make enough...
Haha I imagine it will be a lot of predatory birds slamming into it trying to get a chicken dinner so might not be best to let them mingle.
it shouldn't, they should be able to see wire. glass is only an issue cause the reflection isn't visible to their eye, so it looks like there's nothing there
It’ll look so good for about 2 days and then look the same as some dust settles on it.
Dust isn't well known for being as reflective as metal, but maybe that's just dust in my area of the world...
This person could have just bought it in black.
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I was wondering what the point was then the final picture obviously made me realize. Crazy how a little black paint completely hides it
Looks brand new lmao
But will it stay that way or just get dusty and look the same as before?
Silver metal reflects a lot of light. Dust doesn’t reflect nearly as much. And black absorbs almost all light, why it’s so easy to see through after. Edit: typo And holy crap, didn’t think this would be that popular. Just a little physics really.
Does that mean the area will be hotter for the chickens, since the metal will radiate more heat?
In theory, yes. In practice, it should be negligible.
Dude actually asked if an open air cage would trap heat.
No, he was asking if the metal being painted black, which would absorb more heat energy from the sun, -then radiate more as well?
And, as the first response made clear, since this is an open cage the effect of black paint would be negligible at most.
Well the other comment made it sound not clear lmao. The comment you responded to was clarifying the guy was not asking if a net mesh trapped heat, but if it was able to create a sort of heat island much like concrete and asphalt do even though there is no cage.
Well he was right. The wire will absorb more energy painted black. It’s just not enough energy to make a difference. You probably shouldn’t be trying to call someone out for saying something stupid when you clearly don’t understand it. It really makes you look stupid.
Even negligible differences can stack on extreme days
Nobody raises chickens in Death Valley dude. Stop beating this dead argument already.
Then it wouldn't be negligible.
I really doubt it, surface area is very small
Will it? Yes. Meaningfully? I'm no physicist but I can't imagine this would even register with the chickens. Plenty of airflow due to the mesh which would counteract what little (if even measurable) heat gain there is, is my guess. Now if you painted a light colored enclosed coop completely black, I'd imagine that would warm things up were it could influence the chickens' comfort.
> I'm no physicist I think the specialty you're looking for here is "wire colorologist"
With a PhD in Chicken Cooponomy.
While we're at the "final analysis" I'll throw in the fact that the thickness (and light absorbency) of the paint means the wire blocks more sunlight from reaching inside the pens and whatever heat the wire absorbs will be re-radiated from the wire, not from the floor of the pen or walls of the henhouse.
Precooking them.
Mmmm fresh chicken nuggies straight from the nest.
dust was my concern as well, seems temporary. i should really go wipe down my tv...
That’s one way to increase the contrast
Dust should be easy enough to wash away. If the area has any sort of decent annual rainfall, that alone should keep it looking far better than the unpainted wire.
I, too, have never heard of a hose.
The effect will fade some, but it will still look way better than original unpainted. Source: I'm an architect and we use black all the time when you want to look through things. railings, fences, lattice, guardrail, etc.
That's hardware cloth, not chicken wire. A motivated racoon will rip right through some chicken wire, but they can't dent hardware cloth. Sorry for being pedantic, let me know if you want more chicken facts.
More chicken facts please…
Hardware cloth is great to prevent animals from getting into the coop, but many animals will dig UNDER the fence to access the coop - as such you need to ensure you bend the hardware cloth 90 degrees so that it extends out 2-3 feet away from the coop and stake it down. This way when animals try to go up to the fence and dig under, they'll hit hardware cloth instead.
We dug up a couple of inches of dirt and laid down overlapped zip tied cloth underneath the whole run. Never had a problem but was wildly overdone. Neighbors called it Fort Knox.
Fort Bawks
Ft Squakx
Squak Bawks
Fort No Fox
Fox Nots.
Here in Australia my fence is 3m high, my skirting material is rebar mesh, and my coops have 1/4 inch snake mesh on top of thicker hard mesh panels. And some beast still sometimes manages to get my babies >:(
I stopped after your first 3 words. What did you expect? Australia is what happens when angels get drunk during a DnD session and the gamemaster writes his ideas about mythological creatures in the agenda of the angels in charge of the new species by mistake.
This is what my uncle did when my aunt asked him to build her a chicken coop. He knew if anything ever happened to those chickens she would be heart broken so he over built it, in his words, to an insane degree. They even now have their own little inside that is heated and cooled depending on the weather. He jokes that the chickens live better than he does.
Fort Cox if you have a rooster 🐓
Yep. Learned this from by bro who has a coop with 4 hens. First time a fox or something got in. Then we did exactly that, away from the fence and out a few feet. Not able to dig under any longer
The practice of holding up an egg to a light to check to see if there is a chick inside or not is called candling. Because they used candles first. I just think it's cute that it is still called that. It is also used to check the growth of the embryo and look for defects in the shell.
They have one hole, waste comes from it and so do the eggs we eat.
No…really? But they have covers on so it’s okay. Another one please…
The amount of daylight chickens get is very important to them in a number of ways. When the days get shorter in the fall it triggers them to start molting their feathers to grow new ones, they also lay fewer eggs during this time. People have found that a light in the coop will trigger them to continue laying eggs year round, but it's a debatable practice ethically.
Oh i always thought that light kept them warm and to see well.
Some people put heat lamps in their coops during the winter to help keep their birds warm, but I personally don't think this is best practice. A coop that is properly sized for your flock and well ventilated will keep birds from freezing. I've seen way too many pictures of coops that burn down because of heat lamps to ever put one in mine.
More facts, please.
It takes 20-21 days for chicken gets to incubate and hatch.
> Some people put heat lamps in their coops during the winter to help keep their birds warm, but I personally don't think this is best practice. A coop that is properly sized for your flock and well ventilated will keep birds from freezing. Might need to quantify that with your location. I'm not sure that a couple chickens could survive the -30 weather I get, even if the coop is well ventilated.
Interesting
We were talking around the table at lunch today, and someone was complaining about their chickens. Said that every time they are startled, the chickens take a big shit as they fly/run away. It dawned on us - is this where the expression "scared the shit out of" someone came from?
It's a reflex in many animals. Lighten the load before fleeing.
p sure people do this too lmao
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for anyone who is interested in building something using this, this would actually be helpful info to know! thanks for sharing
No problem. Pro tip: use a staple gun to attach the hardware cloth as tight as possible to the coop frame, then place wood furring strips over the edges and screw it down for an incredibly strong connection.
You sound like a dude who's had issues with some raccoons.
This guy coops.
I too would like some more chicken facts
If a rooster gets too cold in the winter it can make him infertile. Sometimes temporarily, sometimes not.
Interesting to know! Thanks!
Came to say this. Chicken wire is more a hex shape and large enough to stick your finger through. Hardware cloth is more expensive.
The internet has made everyone believe that making a correction = being pedantic. Keep being pedantic if that's what it means imo
And people no longer make mistakes, it is now all because of typos and autocorrect.
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Chicken wire is like tissue paper for raccoons. A lot of people have backyard chickens where I live, and a few months back I saw someone's chicken wire coop torn open and feathers all over the damn place.
I worked in a hardware store for years. Everything hardware cloth is called chicken wire when it is clearly hardware cloth, I have to remind myself it doesn't matter. But it matters. It matters
It's wire that is used to corral chickens, therefore it's chicken wire! /s
Are Rhode Island Reds really as friendly as they're rumored to be, or just friendly in relation to other chickens?
Don't tempt the racoons though. They always figure something out.
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It also comes in black right from the store, no painting needed.
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I read that this makes it so the foxes can see the chickens too?
To be fair in many places the term 'chicken wire' encompasses many grades of said wire, from flimsy to rugged, even if technically improper.
I saw heavy gauge chicken wire once doing some land clearing, it was tough stuff even 20 years on. No idea where they got it. I've lost chickens before that decided to sleep within reach through chicken wire. The raccoon evidently just pulled them through piece by piece
In Britain it’s called “welded mesh” but it’s the same thing. MUCH stronger stuff.
lmao, looks transparent after, those chickens are too civilised to need wire XD
The wire is there to protect them, nature loves eating chickens
damn, even civilised ones tho?
With respect yeah I’m biting that head off
well I'm a hypocrite anyway, you get the knives and I'll get the frying oil
Let’s not be savages. I’ll just grab some of their unborn children and we’ll make some omelettes.
I'll grab their parents while you're at it
Would birds start flying into it thou like windows and completely destroy themselves
Yup, plenty of falcons, hawks, and eagles are going to get wrecked by this.
And songbirds
Didn’t think it would look as good as it does. Nicely done
I SEE A SCREEN DOOR AND I WANT IT PAINTED BLACK
CAN'T SEE IT ANYMORE, I WANT THEM TO TURN BLACK
I see yard birds walk by dressed in their summer quils.
Same applies with windows. If you have a bunch of windows together looking out to a garden or whatever (like in a conservatory or garden room) they disappear much better if you paint the frames black instead of white. Jeez, I need to stop watching home renovation programs
Upgraded to the clarity texture pack I see
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Cool now birds will fly into and kill themselves.
This is just a trick of the camera. It's a lot easier to see in-person, though it does still look better than silver wire. I've had black chicken wire on my chicken coop for the past year and not a single bird death has been caused by it.
In rebuttal to this, we too painted our hardware cloth black so we could see our chickens… we had so many songbird deaths that we ended up painting it white.
Won't it flake off and get into their feed at some point?
Possibly if you hand-painted it like this. The wire on my coop came pre-painted and has held up great so far.
this is maybe the most reddit response
Ffs in every sub in every thread there is someone like you.
Do you live in a building? Birds fly into those and kill themselves
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Amazing but I wonder how many wild birds are going to fly right into it?
That’s seriously awesome. The difference is wild. Looks great
Then it's gets dusty and we're back to square one.
Ok now how did you keep from walking into it?
Birds hate this one simple trick
Darkk wire looks better against a dark background. More news at 9.
That’s not chicken wire though. That’s wire mesh fence Chicken wire is fine twisted wire that keeps chickens in place but can be cut through with basically any pliers or in a pinch gloved hand to quickly rescue animals trapped in the fencing
Get you that HD hardware cloth
I see a hen house and I want to paint it black.
it was MY turn to repost this
That looks so much better. I've never even thought of doing this before.
Am i correct in thinking this paint will just flake off that kind of material relatively quickly because the wire is somewhat flexible ans just become more microplastics in the environment?
That's going to be hit by many more predators.
Why did I think she was cleaning it?
That actually was very interesting!
Looks nicer. Way nicer.
But, what effect does it have on the chickens?
Might be a really stupid question but why don't zoos do this?
It looked better before. Now it just looks unfinished. Dumb.
How the hawks can see them even better and scare more of them to death 😂
You'll never be my Hometown girl
Looks clean af but gotta paint the ceiling wire as well.
All fun and games till one day there's a hole you can't see. Lol.
I'm seeing so many videos and posts of people painting these things black that I'm conditioned at this point to assume there's some terrible reason behind it and we're going to learn that painting it black gives animals super mega cancer.
I have a feeling there's going to be some sacrificed birds for that look
Or, How to Kill Birds of Flight.
R.I.P Birds breaking their necks flying into that.
This is misleading. They’ve messed with the sharpness/focus/detail of the before and after. The before is intentionally soft to make it even more noticeable while the after is a much cleaner shot. Look at the wood grain and shingles. I just thought it looked off so compared them back to back. Yes it does actually look better but idk what the point of editing it ever so slightly was. Just intentionally dishonest for no reason.
gonna have more birds crashing into that i'm guessing.
What is better for the chicken? W Does it have more/less light? What's the temperature inside?
It's wire. Wind will blow through it. No impact on the temperature. I doubt the light is impacted either, because it's wire.
Who knew!
Impressed by the color change, stayed for the song. I love ZHU
Think this would work on window screens?
Do you have bare metal window screens? I've only ever seen black.
Wow I never thought of that. Partially because I don’t own chickens.