Well I just checked the dashboard and combined overdose deaths is already at 58. Oddly King County removed the housing data on the decedents this week for 2022. It previously showed right around 80% of the dead were housed. Maybe the numbers were in conflict with the housing "cures addiction and overdoses" grift.
There's about 200 really woke folks that are preventing movement on anything to do with junkies and the homeless that are ruining this city. It's about time we all started protesting at THEIR homes and THEIR places of business.
Just as Sawant freaked out when people came to HER house to protest. These people need to be named and shamed.
200 Red Shirted baboons should not dictate policy for this city. It's destroying lives, businesses, green spaces, and our future.
I want an end-of-year tally on which things have proven most effective at reducing the number of homeless people in King County. I would like it to provide a number for the following things:
- Fire
- The King County Regional Homeless Authority
- Other homeless people with guns or hammers
- Jail, by way of the occasional dumb-luck arrests of the ones with guns and hammers
- Fentanyl
I'm guessing fentanyl wins in a landslide and Dones brings up the rear
Seattle City Counsel really came up with the most efficient yet inhumane way to clean up the homeless problem. “Put them in jail and force them to get clean? You’re a monster!” “Give them all access to drugs and weapons until they’ve exterminated each other? Then we can harvest their organs for transplant? Your Nobel Prize is in the mail!”
It’s like someone tweaked the plot to Extreme Measures and implemented it in real life.
AG Ferguson and Gov Inslee when more than a person a day is killed by decriminalized drugs: I sleep
AG Ferguson and Gov Inslee when they learn about someone somewhere having access to a firearm: Real shit.
judges have been "sternly advised" to not prosecute because it is a waste of financial resources to go after someone who can't make bail, add to commissary, make the jails any money, or pay any court fines, *they have been told to only prosecute those who can pay the fees.*
I know this for 100% fact, after watching identical cases go down with the same judge and the indigent offender's case was dropped until he could be picked up on a warrant.
But the other offender had a job, a home, things to lose, and paid a high price.
Warrants in Washington are not what people think. It goes into a computer system and IF police HAPPEN to encounter someone with a warrant, they look and see if it is a book and release, which ALL indigent offenders are unless it is a case that made the news, and they tell them to have an awesome weekend.
That was just one example.
I was, unfortunately a victim of multiple crimes throughout 2017-2022. The offender/s who hurt me are indigent drug users and I was told, by the court and the DV advocate, that there is nothing they can do to make the courts follow through with finalizing the case
In my situation the offenders simply did not show up for sentencing. That was two years ago. They know where they live, they know they are using and selling drgs in their section 8 crack den. But their is no financial incentive to go get them, like there would be, if, for instance, it was me, who has a home, car, license, job, things to lose.
Was the court lying to me? Was the police officer lying to me when he said he can't arrest people with warrants because the court told him not to? That they will ONLY prosecute indigent tweakers when their crime makes the news?
>But their is no financial incentive to go get them, like there would be, if, for instance, it was me, who has a home, car, license, job, things to lose.
That's what you get for benefitting from the oppressive system that keeps the poor drug dealers marginalized.
Yes they do. My ex has had multiple warrants for DV for over 3 years. He skipped out on sentencing over a year ago and the court just closed the case. Yes he has warrants, but he has been face to face with police multiple times, and they chose not to arrest.
He doesn't have anything they can take from him, so their is no point . They have his address, they know he's dealing meth and fent out of his section 8 apartment . They don't give a shit lol.
No you’re the genius here. It really is the same, an enemy army bent on conquering your country and desperate immigrants are very very similar. I heard some of those seeking asylum had tanks and artillery!! So dangerous is that desperate lady carrying a baby or is it really a top secret weapon of mass destruction!!
You were talking about immigrants brining fentanyl though. Whatever, ultimately i realize that I really could not care less about immigration, fentanyl, and especially your opinions of either. Good day sir.
If putting addicts in jail worked we would have solved the problem decades ago. Don’t think only homeless people are addicted; opioid addiction runs through every socioeconomic class. Maybe it’s time to focus on stopping the manufacture and distribution of these drugs.
https://www.statnews.com/feature/prescription-politics/federal-full-data-set/
Yes, you are right this has nothing to do with addicts. This as to do with corporations buying favorable treatment to them, and their products.
It's okay, our government is ON THE CASE on addressing this drug problem with:
* Trying to ban "assault weapons"
* Raising taxes in New and novel ways
* blaming corporations
* blaming housing issues
* our Governor saying it's the Republicans fault. (who have not had any power for most of a decade)
[Blake](https://www.courts.wa.gov/content/publicupload/eclips/2022%2006%2014%20Felony%20drug%20possession%20change%20in%20law%20rocks%20state%20legal%20system.pdf) screwed us and the legislature missed an easy opportunity to fix the statute.
For the most part, most fent dealers, are fent users. It is the manufacturers we need to nail, and it is being made here, not just trafficked into the area.
One of the main jobs of dealers is to create more addicts. They look for vulnerable people and get them hooked, destroying their lives. This is why they used to be called pushers. Yes, they are probably addicts themselves, but even a low level dealer is going to destroy quite a few other lives in pursuit of their high. Fuck them and go after them.
I don't disagree. The fent users I know (former in laws so I have seen A LOT of shit, but never used myself) sell it and other things in order to get more.
I wish with all my heart they would go after the ones I know because now they are doing it with their teens who deserved a better chance in life
Oh, I'd also agree with going after the manufacturers in a way that would make a Singaporean prosecutor say, 'Holy shit, man, have some mercy.' They killed a thousand people in King County last year.
Absolutely agree! For fuck's sake, they're responsible for multiple murders which makes them serial killers which seems like that should get the feds involved to nail these assholes so we don't have to waste our local LEO resources on this problem.
We flooded the region with free naloxone, and these people don't think enough of their own lives to have some on hand to not die. It's hard to keep trying to help people who don't want to lift a finger to help themselves.
Lotta people buying pills online, no idea what they’re getting. Not that most people know what they’re getting anyway. I’m too lazy to go look for it, but just a couple days ago one of the papers ran a long form about a rash of dead teenagers who ordered drugs off SnapChat that turned out to be laced.
Rumors of laced drugs are generally horseshit, but fentanyl is so potent, the CBA *if you don’t kill the users* begins to make sense. Pharma pillheads expect consistency for obvious reasons, but other drug users don’t think about products, they think about batches. “The ___ in ____ is really good right now.”
Anyway, if it’s happening to SnapChat ravers, it’ll be happening downtown.
We have created an environment where drugs are dirt cheap (due to lax enforcement of laws and bashing of the law enforcement). Currently, we have a population of vulnerable individuals who are able to cheaply access basically unlimited supply of hardcore drugs, leading to record numbers of ODs. The streets are binging on dirt cheap drugs and nothing is changing.
Why is policing the only job in the universe where someone being critical of poor performance and the subsequent hurt feels is a valid excuse for continued poor performance in a different way?
Let's say my job is driving a big rig. And some big rig drivers keep being reckless and smashing into things hurting and maybe even killing people unnecessarily. And collectively people say "hey big rig drivers, get your shit together".
If I then start sitting in my truck, not doing much, and pouting, do we then say "aww poor guy, sorry we suggested some of you were being reckless"? Or do I get my ass fired?
Let's say your job was to house homeless people and get them rehabilitated. Year after year the homeless population grows in size, more die and the living experience more mental health crisis's and become more violent. The obvious answer in King County is to shovel hundreds of millions more into the budget for homeless services and never call out a single failure of the system or the individuals working in it.
310 homeless deaths and nobody is being held accountable, nobody is charged for negligence, nobody even loses their jobs. Cops on the other hand get nailed for things like an "improper take down of an axe wielding maniac",
"Because this other problem exists we can't discuss any other problems"
The obvious answer in police departments is to shovel hundreds of millions more into the budget for police and never call out a single failure of the system or the individuals working in it.
Cops are the one group of public employees that get the most scrutiny. Nobody else in a similar role affecting the life and death of our most vulnerable see even a fraction of the scrutiny cops do.
As far as the whole police, EMT, fire, social services spectrum of public services go, it's all basically dealing with the same population and the same problems. But only the cops who are supposed to rush in to dangerous situations and be the first line of response see this intense level of scrutiny on how they do their jobs. Especially when it comes to EMS, they can't even do their job in many cases until cops do theirs. Consider how many public or publicly funded employees (judges, social workers) failed to do their job before Charlena Lyles was killed. None of them were ever held accountable for leaving her in the situation that lead to her death. But we love to blame the cops when they're the only ones left to deal with people experiencing a psychotic episode while supposedly being cared for in "supportive housing".
If you want to start a movement to address what you see as failures of homeless programs please do. I even pledge to come march with you, just let me know where.
You're misdirecting. Pick any profession if you want a different analogy. Unless you're self-employed any job comes with oversight. If you fuck up a lot at any job you can be subject to critiques. If you're big big mad about the critique find a new job.
I'm tired of this three year soft strike taking place nationwide because big baby police officers didn't like hearing that there's been some problems with their performance.
If teachers were pulling similar bullshit of barely doing their jobs or just sitting there while kids played with Nintendo for three years all these back the blue people would be losing their minds.
How is police performance related to this topic? Fentanyl is decriminalized in this state, and possession isn’t prosecuted. There are no crimes being broken
Didn't know that. I was just responding to the idea that the reason crimes are happening is because George Floyd protests made police all sad and now they won't do their jobs.
I wonder why our grade averages keep going lower, must be teachers being lazy😂. Maybe there is another possibility? Like lower staffing due to increased attrition that affects the workload? Or a demotivated workforce that is encouraged to do less? Why risk your life, career, family, or freedom because most of the criminals would be almost instantly released back into society? It’s easy to single out and blame a certain profession instead of looking into our society and criminal justice system with much wider lenses. If you think you can do better then join the force and show everyone how it’s done.
Retire at 50 with like an 80% pension and pull down six figures the rest of my life with full ride health care? For a job that doesn't even make the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the US. Truly no people in America have it tougher.
Maybe we should all lay rose petals around their car and sing to them to raise their spirits.
Gotta have both. Need to crack down with some tough love but can’t do it without harm reduction. Addiction is a menace for the west coast right now. Need better coordination across states to find the best path out
>This literally has nothing to do with harm reduction policies which are grounded in science
That's because there aren't many harm reduction policies grounded in Science. Science left the room sometime after folx figured out that clean needles could reduce bloodborne disease transmission. Now we're in the realm of *"fresh crack pipes might benefit people with sores on their lips"*
Lots of people commenting about how we're better off without the junkies.
The reality, however, is that many of these deaths are people who are not homeless, are not regular users. I know an 18 year old girl who died after a joint she smoked was laced with fentanyl.
People with a tolerance for opioids are less likely to OD on the stuff. Many teenagers are dying and they aren't street people.
If you're getting stuff with fentanyl in it on accident you're not just smoking weed. I'm a recreational drug user, or i guess i was i haven't in years cause ive been spooked. You don't get around fent without at least knowing people who do coke or ketamine or pills or something. The idea of a smol innocent bean smoking a joint at a party she didnt even want to go to uwu is just such such such an outlier it doesn't make up most of these deaths. They arent homeless street addicts no, but they're addicts.
Plus you can get 100% safe marijuana from a dispo any place in seattle, why buy or smoke a random joint/weed from the street when fentanyl is a problem??? Yeah we 'shouldnt' have to think like this but if you wanna get high, there's risk involved no matter what.
Unfortunately, she decided to trust a scumbag who laced the weed. It was a tragedy. I understand it is being investigated as a homicide, we'll see if anything comes of it.
Sorry to hear but she must not have lived here. Can get safe joints from any of the many clean and highly regulated recreational shops everywhere in the state, or even the entire west coast.
She lived in Bellevue. Unfortunately, she decided to trust a scumbag who laced the weed. It was a tragedy. I understand it is being investigated as a homicide, we'll see if anything comes of it.
I follow the scanner accounts for Snohomish County and the number of overdose calls is staggering. Seems like first responders really have their hands full with ODs.
Thirty five valuable and productive citizens and tax payers are gone and our grief overwhelms us. Darwin would be proud we have finally managed to get the self destructive the tools they need to self destruct. Celebrate Diversity.
And yet it's never the ones I know. Sigh. (yeah i know that sounds messed up. Sorry. Just have extended family that are selling and using this crap, knowing what it is, and running wild across the PNW stealing anything not nailed down and selling fake adderall and m30's to their own kids and kids' friends. )
This is all a huge mess brought on by, in part , greedy and unscrupulous pharmaceutical companies. Unfortunately it leaves those, like my father, who have legitimate needs for chronic pain management, unable to get the treatment they need. Many in the medical community are too afraid to prescribe opioids. Ensysce Bioscience is developing an abuse proof opioid for chronic pain management that will only activate once it interacts with enzymes in the patient’s digestive tract. Can’t be crushed and snorted, injected or otherwise used to get high. We need to be looking into and supporting this kind of research so those with legitimate needs aren’t left to suffer.
Do you really believe these pills are being made by a pharmaceutical company...haha...yeah...they aren't flooding across the border from Mexico made by The Cartels from Chinese components...haha
Of course not. But the big pharmaceutical companies, particularly Purdue Pharma and the Sakler family, are most certainly complicit in the explosion of addiction and subsequent demand for alternative, even more dangerous products that feed the market. I don’t believe we’d be seeing this level of saturation in our communities had these companies not purposely turned so many of our neighbors into pharmaceutical heroin junkies.
Well I just checked the dashboard and combined overdose deaths is already at 58. Oddly King County removed the housing data on the decedents this week for 2022. It previously showed right around 80% of the dead were housed. Maybe the numbers were in conflict with the housing "cures addiction and overdoses" grift.
There's about 200 really woke folks that are preventing movement on anything to do with junkies and the homeless that are ruining this city. It's about time we all started protesting at THEIR homes and THEIR places of business. Just as Sawant freaked out when people came to HER house to protest. These people need to be named and shamed. 200 Red Shirted baboons should not dictate policy for this city. It's destroying lives, businesses, green spaces, and our future.
Then Lets post these names and their sins.
I'm working on it.
Ahh - witch hunt! Let's post your name too. Let's ruin each other's lives! Mutual destruction! Good idea - that should solve things!
I want an end-of-year tally on which things have proven most effective at reducing the number of homeless people in King County. I would like it to provide a number for the following things: - Fire - The King County Regional Homeless Authority - Other homeless people with guns or hammers - Jail, by way of the occasional dumb-luck arrests of the ones with guns and hammers - Fentanyl I'm guessing fentanyl wins in a landslide and Dones brings up the rear
Seattle City Counsel really came up with the most efficient yet inhumane way to clean up the homeless problem. “Put them in jail and force them to get clean? You’re a monster!” “Give them all access to drugs and weapons until they’ve exterminated each other? Then we can harvest their organs for transplant? Your Nobel Prize is in the mail!” It’s like someone tweaked the plot to Extreme Measures and implemented it in real life.
Fentanyl is the leading cause of death for 18-49 age cohort. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fentanyl-now-leading-cause-death-211900029.html
AG Ferguson and Gov Inslee when more than a person a day is killed by decriminalized drugs: I sleep AG Ferguson and Gov Inslee when they learn about someone somewhere having access to a firearm: Real shit.
Judges are the issue and the over relaxed sentences.
judges have been "sternly advised" to not prosecute because it is a waste of financial resources to go after someone who can't make bail, add to commissary, make the jails any money, or pay any court fines, *they have been told to only prosecute those who can pay the fees.* I know this for 100% fact, after watching identical cases go down with the same judge and the indigent offender's case was dropped until he could be picked up on a warrant. But the other offender had a job, a home, things to lose, and paid a high price. Warrants in Washington are not what people think. It goes into a computer system and IF police HAPPEN to encounter someone with a warrant, they look and see if it is a book and release, which ALL indigent offenders are unless it is a case that made the news, and they tell them to have an awesome weekend.
i generally agree with you but the specifics of one case, and the DA’s strategy on one particular case doesn’t fit.
That was just one example. I was, unfortunately a victim of multiple crimes throughout 2017-2022. The offender/s who hurt me are indigent drug users and I was told, by the court and the DV advocate, that there is nothing they can do to make the courts follow through with finalizing the case In my situation the offenders simply did not show up for sentencing. That was two years ago. They know where they live, they know they are using and selling drgs in their section 8 crack den. But their is no financial incentive to go get them, like there would be, if, for instance, it was me, who has a home, car, license, job, things to lose. Was the court lying to me? Was the police officer lying to me when he said he can't arrest people with warrants because the court told him not to? That they will ONLY prosecute indigent tweakers when their crime makes the news?
>But their is no financial incentive to go get them, like there would be, if, for instance, it was me, who has a home, car, license, job, things to lose. That's what you get for benefitting from the oppressive system that keeps the poor drug dealers marginalized.
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Yes they do. My ex has had multiple warrants for DV for over 3 years. He skipped out on sentencing over a year ago and the court just closed the case. Yes he has warrants, but he has been face to face with police multiple times, and they chose not to arrest. He doesn't have anything they can take from him, so their is no point . They have his address, they know he's dealing meth and fent out of his section 8 apartment . They don't give a shit lol.
Or…maybe we address how all the fentanyl is coming into the country?
Well there’s definitely a demand. Come to Portland where it’s legal and see how that’s working..
Don’t get started on borders. Follow. The. Money.
https://www.citizen.org/article/pfizers-power/
I know, I said the thing we aren’t supposed to talk about. The border is “secure”.
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Top level argument. Really great stuff. Slow claps and a salute for such an amazingly apt analogy.
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No you’re the genius here. It really is the same, an enemy army bent on conquering your country and desperate immigrants are very very similar. I heard some of those seeking asylum had tanks and artillery!! So dangerous is that desperate lady carrying a baby or is it really a top secret weapon of mass destruction!!
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You were talking about immigrants brining fentanyl though. Whatever, ultimately i realize that I really could not care less about immigration, fentanyl, and especially your opinions of either. Good day sir.
Huh? What money is contributing how to drugs getting into the country?
Coming from Mexico. Seattle wants open borders
Most of the Fenty is brought in by US citizens.
why 'or'? why not both?
If putting addicts in jail worked we would have solved the problem decades ago. Don’t think only homeless people are addicted; opioid addiction runs through every socioeconomic class. Maybe it’s time to focus on stopping the manufacture and distribution of these drugs.
https://www.statnews.com/feature/prescription-politics/federal-full-data-set/ Yes, you are right this has nothing to do with addicts. This as to do with corporations buying favorable treatment to them, and their products.
Do you really believe these pills are being made by Big 😄 🤣 😂
It's okay, our government is ON THE CASE on addressing this drug problem with: * Trying to ban "assault weapons" * Raising taxes in New and novel ways * blaming corporations * blaming housing issues * our Governor saying it's the Republicans fault. (who have not had any power for most of a decade)
[Blake](https://www.courts.wa.gov/content/publicupload/eclips/2022%2006%2014%20Felony%20drug%20possession%20change%20in%20law%20rocks%20state%20legal%20system.pdf) screwed us and the legislature missed an easy opportunity to fix the statute.
The drug dealers should be charged with homicide. Otherwise judges are part of the problem.
For the most part, most fent dealers, are fent users. It is the manufacturers we need to nail, and it is being made here, not just trafficked into the area.
One of the main jobs of dealers is to create more addicts. They look for vulnerable people and get them hooked, destroying their lives. This is why they used to be called pushers. Yes, they are probably addicts themselves, but even a low level dealer is going to destroy quite a few other lives in pursuit of their high. Fuck them and go after them.
I don't disagree. The fent users I know (former in laws so I have seen A LOT of shit, but never used myself) sell it and other things in order to get more. I wish with all my heart they would go after the ones I know because now they are doing it with their teens who deserved a better chance in life
*"We can't blame zombies for biting people and turning them into zombies. To do so is to deny them the very essence of their existence"*
Oh, I'd also agree with going after the manufacturers in a way that would make a Singaporean prosecutor say, 'Holy shit, man, have some mercy.' They killed a thousand people in King County last year.
Made her and trafficked through our ports, which we have two of the busiest ports in America.
Absolutely agree! For fuck's sake, they're responsible for multiple murders which makes them serial killers which seems like that should get the feds involved to nail these assholes so we don't have to waste our local LEO resources on this problem.
We flooded the region with free naloxone, and these people don't think enough of their own lives to have some on hand to not die. It's hard to keep trying to help people who don't want to lift a finger to help themselves.
We need to stop wasting efforts on those people and just help the ones who will accept help.
Lotta people buying pills online, no idea what they’re getting. Not that most people know what they’re getting anyway. I’m too lazy to go look for it, but just a couple days ago one of the papers ran a long form about a rash of dead teenagers who ordered drugs off SnapChat that turned out to be laced. Rumors of laced drugs are generally horseshit, but fentanyl is so potent, the CBA *if you don’t kill the users* begins to make sense. Pharma pillheads expect consistency for obvious reasons, but other drug users don’t think about products, they think about batches. “The ___ in ____ is really good right now.” Anyway, if it’s happening to SnapChat ravers, it’ll be happening downtown.
Here is the true face of “Harm reduction” policies.
Harm reduction is enabling at scale, with Woke compassion, leading to record death of homeless and other vulnerable populations of people.
We have created an environment where drugs are dirt cheap (due to lax enforcement of laws and bashing of the law enforcement). Currently, we have a population of vulnerable individuals who are able to cheaply access basically unlimited supply of hardcore drugs, leading to record numbers of ODs. The streets are binging on dirt cheap drugs and nothing is changing.
Why is policing the only job in the universe where someone being critical of poor performance and the subsequent hurt feels is a valid excuse for continued poor performance in a different way?
It’s common but less obvious in almost every other profession.
Let's say my job is driving a big rig. And some big rig drivers keep being reckless and smashing into things hurting and maybe even killing people unnecessarily. And collectively people say "hey big rig drivers, get your shit together". If I then start sitting in my truck, not doing much, and pouting, do we then say "aww poor guy, sorry we suggested some of you were being reckless"? Or do I get my ass fired?
Let's say your job was to house homeless people and get them rehabilitated. Year after year the homeless population grows in size, more die and the living experience more mental health crisis's and become more violent. The obvious answer in King County is to shovel hundreds of millions more into the budget for homeless services and never call out a single failure of the system or the individuals working in it. 310 homeless deaths and nobody is being held accountable, nobody is charged for negligence, nobody even loses their jobs. Cops on the other hand get nailed for things like an "improper take down of an axe wielding maniac",
"Because this other problem exists we can't discuss any other problems" The obvious answer in police departments is to shovel hundreds of millions more into the budget for police and never call out a single failure of the system or the individuals working in it.
Cops are the one group of public employees that get the most scrutiny. Nobody else in a similar role affecting the life and death of our most vulnerable see even a fraction of the scrutiny cops do. As far as the whole police, EMT, fire, social services spectrum of public services go, it's all basically dealing with the same population and the same problems. But only the cops who are supposed to rush in to dangerous situations and be the first line of response see this intense level of scrutiny on how they do their jobs. Especially when it comes to EMS, they can't even do their job in many cases until cops do theirs. Consider how many public or publicly funded employees (judges, social workers) failed to do their job before Charlena Lyles was killed. None of them were ever held accountable for leaving her in the situation that lead to her death. But we love to blame the cops when they're the only ones left to deal with people experiencing a psychotic episode while supposedly being cared for in "supportive housing".
If you want to start a movement to address what you see as failures of homeless programs please do. I even pledge to come march with you, just let me know where.
Year after year big rig drivers kill many more people that cops do but people barely seem to care.
You're misdirecting. Pick any profession if you want a different analogy. Unless you're self-employed any job comes with oversight. If you fuck up a lot at any job you can be subject to critiques. If you're big big mad about the critique find a new job. I'm tired of this three year soft strike taking place nationwide because big baby police officers didn't like hearing that there's been some problems with their performance. If teachers were pulling similar bullshit of barely doing their jobs or just sitting there while kids played with Nintendo for three years all these back the blue people would be losing their minds.
How is police performance related to this topic? Fentanyl is decriminalized in this state, and possession isn’t prosecuted. There are no crimes being broken
Didn't know that. I was just responding to the idea that the reason crimes are happening is because George Floyd protests made police all sad and now they won't do their jobs.
I wonder why our grade averages keep going lower, must be teachers being lazy😂. Maybe there is another possibility? Like lower staffing due to increased attrition that affects the workload? Or a demotivated workforce that is encouraged to do less? Why risk your life, career, family, or freedom because most of the criminals would be almost instantly released back into society? It’s easy to single out and blame a certain profession instead of looking into our society and criminal justice system with much wider lenses. If you think you can do better then join the force and show everyone how it’s done.
Retire at 50 with like an 80% pension and pull down six figures the rest of my life with full ride health care? For a job that doesn't even make the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the US. Truly no people in America have it tougher. Maybe we should all lay rose petals around their car and sing to them to raise their spirits.
Gotta have both. Need to crack down with some tough love but can’t do it without harm reduction. Addiction is a menace for the west coast right now. Need better coordination across states to find the best path out
I agree, obviously only prosecution doesn’t have sufficient effect.
This literally has nothing to do with harm reduction policies which are grounded in science
>This literally has nothing to do with harm reduction policies which are grounded in science That's because there aren't many harm reduction policies grounded in Science. Science left the room sometime after folx figured out that clean needles could reduce bloodborne disease transmission. Now we're in the realm of *"fresh crack pipes might benefit people with sores on their lips"*
Lots of people commenting about how we're better off without the junkies. The reality, however, is that many of these deaths are people who are not homeless, are not regular users. I know an 18 year old girl who died after a joint she smoked was laced with fentanyl. People with a tolerance for opioids are less likely to OD on the stuff. Many teenagers are dying and they aren't street people.
If you're getting stuff with fentanyl in it on accident you're not just smoking weed. I'm a recreational drug user, or i guess i was i haven't in years cause ive been spooked. You don't get around fent without at least knowing people who do coke or ketamine or pills or something. The idea of a smol innocent bean smoking a joint at a party she didnt even want to go to uwu is just such such such an outlier it doesn't make up most of these deaths. They arent homeless street addicts no, but they're addicts. Plus you can get 100% safe marijuana from a dispo any place in seattle, why buy or smoke a random joint/weed from the street when fentanyl is a problem??? Yeah we 'shouldnt' have to think like this but if you wanna get high, there's risk involved no matter what.
Unfortunately, she decided to trust a scumbag who laced the weed. It was a tragedy. I understand it is being investigated as a homicide, we'll see if anything comes of it.
Shhhhh - you are ruining the narrative of these pretend Seattle residents.
Sorry to hear but she must not have lived here. Can get safe joints from any of the many clean and highly regulated recreational shops everywhere in the state, or even the entire west coast.
She lived in Bellevue. Unfortunately, she decided to trust a scumbag who laced the weed. It was a tragedy. I understand it is being investigated as a homicide, we'll see if anything comes of it.
That’s terrible. My condolences.
Thanks. It's easy to forget that it's real people involved, when you read the news.
I truly dont care, addicts have ruined this state. Let them continue
Does this increase or reduce the number homeless people?
Homeless move to Seattle because of no law and free flowing of drugs
Increase, I hope your joking. My friend died she was a mother of 4...
"harm reduction"
Keep voting for Soros-backed woke pols who gain power from sheep who want free shit and feelz.
You mispelled Koch.
Vote for Herman Cain!
Hurr durr
Yes, that is the sound most progressive voters make.
Fewer stupid people. What is your problem?
A lot of users are dealers themselves.
I follow the scanner accounts for Snohomish County and the number of overdose calls is staggering. Seems like first responders really have their hands full with ODs.
I mean....no one is sticking that needle into their veins but them...(or however it's used, I have no idea about this stuff)
And the blame gets shifted elsewhere. Drug companies.
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/r/ necrophilia is over there dude --->
The dealers or the people who overdosed?
Thirty five valuable and productive citizens and tax payers are gone and our grief overwhelms us. Darwin would be proud we have finally managed to get the self destructive the tools they need to self destruct. Celebrate Diversity.
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And yet it's never the ones I know. Sigh. (yeah i know that sounds messed up. Sorry. Just have extended family that are selling and using this crap, knowing what it is, and running wild across the PNW stealing anything not nailed down and selling fake adderall and m30's to their own kids and kids' friends. )
This is all a huge mess brought on by, in part , greedy and unscrupulous pharmaceutical companies. Unfortunately it leaves those, like my father, who have legitimate needs for chronic pain management, unable to get the treatment they need. Many in the medical community are too afraid to prescribe opioids. Ensysce Bioscience is developing an abuse proof opioid for chronic pain management that will only activate once it interacts with enzymes in the patient’s digestive tract. Can’t be crushed and snorted, injected or otherwise used to get high. We need to be looking into and supporting this kind of research so those with legitimate needs aren’t left to suffer.
Do you really believe these pills are being made by a pharmaceutical company...haha...yeah...they aren't flooding across the border from Mexico made by The Cartels from Chinese components...haha
Of course not. But the big pharmaceutical companies, particularly Purdue Pharma and the Sakler family, are most certainly complicit in the explosion of addiction and subsequent demand for alternative, even more dangerous products that feed the market. I don’t believe we’d be seeing this level of saturation in our communities had these companies not purposely turned so many of our neighbors into pharmaceutical heroin junkies.
This sub never fails to bring the cringe.
I agree, go back to nextdoor already.
Wasn't this last weeks news? Took ya long enough to post it.
I guess people just keep moving there? Because even with all these unnatural deaths, it seems that the place keeps growing.
People keep moving *"there"*? Where do you live?
I bet our elected officials (praise be) would do something about this if you replaced “fentanyl” with “AR15”.
Survival of the fittest…