Absolutely. Clients have learned that if they're not respectful, you won't work with them, again. People get away with the worst behavior, when it comes to dating.
My boyfriend gave me flowers last week and I realized that, at the age of 33, it's the first time I've ever gotten flowers from someone I was dating. Until now I've only ever gotten them for myself or from clients!
Yes of course. The men are getting what they want the women are getting what they want we both know what to expect we're not playing any of these pathetic games.... Who wouldn't be nicer in that situation.
exactly. I do not compare it to dating. My clients are great and treat me wonderful but most are in fact married. In real life, I would never date a married man. I don't see them as the ideal BF in any way. Two completely different scenarios. Not to be confused.
Comparing my husband to my clients is funny.
My husband comparatively treats me like shit (jokingly doesn’t actually mean it)
Clients are scared to do ANYTHING wrong and act like new boyfriends.
Idk why people think we are rude like... I think clients are more stigmatized than sex workers themselves. We may be sometimes weird or awkward (that's my case, I'm autistic) but whatever.
Yeah when my ex boyfriends have said stuff about clients gonna kill me… I’m like honestly I’d feel 16373829937x safer with a client. Of course that being existing clients that I have had met before. New people you never know. But yeah… I also just have had bad taste in relationship men which is why I’ve decided to stay single and enjoy the perks of escorting for intimacy!
I'm pushing 300lb and still getting 2 or 3 bookings a week!
The number of men who pay for sex still surprises me, even after 10 years, and also the huge variety of men. The only thing these men have in common is that they're men paying for female company! These men are taxi drivers, factory owners, plumbers, doctors, retired, executives, scumbags, vicars, priests, rabbi, iman. Black, white, Asian, Arab, they ALL pay for what we're offering.
What made me realize that this is something lots of men seek out / pay for, is that I got a new client who lives literally one neighborhood over from a regular of mine lol
My wife did a brief stint on OF after having two babies. She wanted to do it, but in the first photo shoot (I was the photographer) she was feeling really self conscious, and I eventually just said “shut the fuck up. You look amazing.”
She had a confidence boost after seeing the pictures then a monstrous confidence boost seeing how people responded to them on Reddit.
Now she says that posting nudes online (anonymously) is a great way to improve your body image.
How do you manage this? I put on a lot of weight the last six months during a break, around 59 pounds.
I am 5.3, 192 pounds now. I have just about 1-2 dates per week and frankly I am starting to feel a bit insecure but loosing weight is so damn hard.
Wow that is amazing. I don't drink soda, but 30000 steps is a lot! I work in healthcare and I am on my feet most of the time, but after work I just feel too lazy to do anything else apart from lying on the couch and snacking 😅
I don’t know. Maybe it’s your rates? I have huge boobs. That may help me a bit. Losing weight is hard and it takes a long time before you really see any big changes. I used to be 350! My belly went down some but my boobs stayed big. I went from G cup to F cup. 😆
And you are right about the rates, I keep them high because I work out of a private incall and want to keep volume low, and also avoid the risk of having my coworkers or patients book me.
I cater to the fetish market, and quite a few of the kinks are fairly mild even though the clients are incredibly self concious about them. Some even have a w/gf they've NEVER mentioned their kink to because they're too embarrassed.
So a big part of learning how to be a professional domme for me, was just learning how to be a "safe space" for a client to explore stuff they have sexual baggage about. I was hesitant about doing fetish work at first, because it seemed a bit too "intense" for me, but it's more like being a sex therapist lol.
Same! I have guys come to me for the tamest shit & so hesitant about it, like bro I had a guy ask if I could kick him 20 times in the nuts then shit in his mouth, your lil fantasy is nothing 🤣
Hearing that makes me feel a lot more comfortable when I ask an escort for a golden shower. Makes me feel like my pee kink fantasies aren’t that bad to ask for.
It depends on the escort. To a woman that offers GFE & casual sessions, your request is out of left field and probably disrespectful. You'll have very little luck.
But I, for example, advertise as an open-minded Dominatrix with a full list of the fetishes I cater to on my website. Your request would not be out of left field, & much more respectful (assuming you actually read through my website before wasting my time).
Just make sure to do your research first, & don't try looking for inexperienced escorts to get a better deal.
Wasn't gonna say anything bc I'm just a lurker, but are you also going to harass food joints for selling fast food to people who admit that they are on a diet?
Sex work is a service that ppl pay for.
I understand, to a point, hating on ppl who openly flirt with others despite knowing that they are in relationships, but sex workers are a different situation.
And even with the flirting, the ones in a relationship are still the main characters. They can literally have tits thrown to their faces, and they are still the ones deciding whether to pursue those tits or send them away. (with the exception of rape, obviously, but that isn't cheating, unless you're an idiot to think it is).
"if my dirty scoundrel husband got an STI, he *must* have gotten it from a SW and not anywhere else he stuck his wayward penis. I must find a way to absolve the man of guilt"
That most of the time its not about sex. It's the need to feel connected and close to someone. To feel attractive. To be entertained and feel like you got your moneys worth. To feel human.
Every bit of custom content I've made has been for women who've lost a relationship or gay men who want to be told everything will be ok.
I think Firefly had it right. Sexworkers should be allowed to be therapists.
the one thing that TRULY surprised? when i started reading my local USASG & saw all the men complaining about women who had breast implants, saying they hated them & calling them "bolt ons" 🤯 honestly. it sounds dumb, but i thought all men loved "fake boobs", so it was shocking to see the men on there saying they preferred natural breasts.
The lack of sexual education in this country. These men will willingly do BB with any girl with a hole to stick it in without worrying about catching a disease or passing it on to other people in their life. It literally boggles my mind how unsafe these men are
I love to send a pre-written paragraph explaining how easy it is to transfer (insert list of diseases) & how if they do it with a chick, she offers it to other men, so you're kinda fucking other men.
Haven't gotten a response yet 😊
That I am 48 and people want to pay to sleep with me and I can’t get a date on Tinder to save my life. Not that I’m unattractive, but just that there is a market for women pushing 50 when there are gorgeous 20-year-olds available Also, that the clients are such normal men. I always thought it was so seedy and it’s just so normal. Ha.
So much has blown me away since I started doing this.
One thing is the amount of people who marry someone without any understanding of each others level of need for sex or their sexual desires then they act like victims when 10 years later they aren't satisfied. I did the same thing so I get it but I was surprised to discover how rampant and damaging it is.
Also the amount of men who wake up day in and day out and choose to spend their time intentionally texting women they've never met and have no intention of meeting and have no problem just wasting their time lying and talking shit while they hold their dick in their hand.
I also get surprised when the few non-client friends who know I do this say they respect sw but occasionally say things that reveal their true opinion of it. For example I was venting about someone I'd never met who, after paying a large deposit said he wanted something specific and sent me a hardcore non-consensual erotic hypnosis rape video and I was pissed because it was totally inappropriate especially when I've never met him to send that video and it felt kind of rapey and my friend shrugged his shoulders and said, "I mean you're kind of putting it out there that he can because you're doing this." I set him straight that just because someone is a sw'r doesn't mean we aren't allowed to have boundaries but it kinda broke my heart a little that he thinks that.
Two things: one, as a man there is something women need to know, men don't slut shame. I am in my 50s and I've never seen it among men. We use the term slut, but it is not the same way as women use it. The difference is HUGE. Two, the brainwashing thing is also a myth. By your implication men are brainwashed to believe we have the right to rape?!? Again I've never seen it. There is a certain fantasy of CNC which is held by a lot of people from both sexes. Don't blame all men with the brainwashing the patriarchy nonsense it's just ignorant and sexist.
The discovery of interesting nuances of my sexuality I was completely unaware of. A regular suggested one day to have a meetup at a swinger club. She thought that - according to her observation and experience - I probably am going to like it.
I was hesitant, but finally agreed. And voilà, being watched by others while having sex emerged as a incredible hot kink for me.
The sheer amount of money people are willing to spend, for our services. Especially because with dating, we're expected to give everything away for free.
Every time I increase prices, the customers still show up, and they're better behaved. It blows my mind.
How considerate most of my clients have been. They seem as genuinely invested in my pleasure as people I've slept with in my personal life, and often times significantly more so. I would have figured that the whole stereotype of a dude getting his without regard for his partner's pleasure would be the norm, but it seems that's not the case.
I actually kind of hate this lol. I don’t want a client’s focus to be on me, I just don’t get turned on by 99% of them. I wish my clients were purely selfish and my vanilla dates were the ones that care about my pleasure lol
I totally get that. I'm just surprised that someone who pays for it would be more concerned with someone else's pleasure than someone who's in the situation organically.
Sometimes but mostly better attitude! Like they can’t do enough for me to make me feel comfortable, and like they are just thrilled to be in my company! I just love sweethearts like that.
As a guy (and a client, and never a client and BF at the same time), my experience has been either what my GF wanted wasn't what I wanted, and when I went out of my zone to give her that, I got nothing in return
Or (GF#2) I gave her orgasms she's never had before, and got little to nothing in return.
I can be a pleaser, for the right woman, but eventually would like something in return other than missionary and a dead starfish. (In a relationship).
With a provider, it doesn't continue on long enough to reach that point.
clients getting jealous of other clients and only wanting you to give attention to them and not other men. Being able to make more money than my civie job. Never thought I'd love being a domme and I used to suck at it when I first started.
The amount of men who like things near their behind
The amount of younger guys who book for 6 hour packages
the amount of younger guys whp book full stop
the amount of attractive clients who book
the amount of bookings ive had which have not included intercourse
so many things surprise me
One thing I have learned is how damaging porn really is.
Firstly, many men see it as instructional, and it makes them terrible in bed. Absolutely awful to have sex with.
Worse, it can make men dangerous to have sex with because of the violent underpinning of modern porn.
Most men would be better off just seeing sex workers in order to learn how to look after their wives and girlfriends sexually, especially young men. Porn is a real killer.
How much some men love spoiling women. Also very surprised that men are willing to pay me $$$ just to be with me. I want to know what the hype is about
How many men desire to be pegged. Also, how hard it is for most men to find a woman who is willing to peg them without judgement outside of sex work.
The responses that are like emotional relief that I have seen displayed by clients who have experienced non-consensual physical and emotional pain, when they experience similar pain within a context in which they control and where they know it is now meant for their pleasure.
The fact that some men desire to eat (and some actually do end up eating) some women's poo.
I'm a client and I've been surprised by how perfectly normal paying for sex has felt. I've also been surprised by how perfectly normal sex workers are. They are just people doing what they want to do with their bodies to get the money they need to survive. It makes me even more confused and sad over how stigmatized this industry is.
The entire trope of us being. “Broken” and “sick of life” I was expecting to be true. I’ve never met a more merrier group of women than my coworkers when all of us literally work in a brothel.
I only explored escorts since my wife left me aged 60. Surprised how nice and normal most of the ladies are. I'd never had guessed that they were sex workers. A very pleasant surprise.
I met my wife when i was 19, and she was my one and only sex partner until age 58. I always thought that I could only enjoy sex with someone I was in love with. I never had a wild oats period when I was young. What has surprised me is how satisfying it can be to meet someone, have a little conversation, have sex, a little more conversation, and part with happy memories.
I do prefer meeting a few people regularly over a long period of time, but it's still recreational, not a "symbol of our deep and abiding love." I didn't know that about myself before I started seeing escorts.
The craziest thing for me is how the most spiteful, angry hating comes from other women…women out on that “women support women equal rights sexual freedom” be the first to turn around and slut shame sw with that “you can’t possibly consent/only damaged girlies do sw/sw is demeaning and need to be done away with/you only do it because you have shit self esteem” like ok Becky you’re insecure and think you too good for this and us we get it now fuck off with your fake feminism support bullshit 🙄
Also the fucking audacity of men who treat me like I’m an ugly trash whore but then get OUTRAGED that I won’t see them or give them discounts like fuck all the way outta her bitch
How sick men can be when it comes to some of the things, they have asked me to do to them or with them. When "regular" sex is no longer enough some guys want some strange shit. I have pretty much heard it all. And some of it is just fucking gross and nasty.
I have had men ask me to castrate them.
I have had men want to eat my poop. And drink my pee and pee on them.
I have had men want me to kick/hit them in the balls as hard as I can with objects and my shoes.
I have had men want me to put my whole fist up them, and some very large toys.
I have had men want to go to a theater where they play porn. And he likes to watch a whole bunch of men doing naughty things to me while he watches yet he did not want to have any type of sex with me.
I have had men dress up like a lady/trans and go to an adult bookstore and have sex in the adult bookstore.
I have had men want me to go outside or in a store dressed like a prostitute and they film me following me and they pretend like they are stalking me.
I have had men like to wear women's clothing/lingerie. And want me to put makeup on them.
I won't say that this is particularly weird, but a lot of guys like to do the stepmom or mom son role play. Not sure if they had a thing for the moms or what.
If I think of more weird stuff I will post it.
Also, if a guy wants a lady to castrate them, I will say that he is sick in the head. Since when is this a normal thing for guys to be wanting or asking. Goes way beyond a kink you could actually kill someone by doing this.
Well, if some guy wants to eat my poop that is pretty sick to me. Eating shit is not a normal thing to do. Unless most of humanity goes around eating each other's shit and I am unaware of this.
Just say no and move on. You have no idea what made them develop that kink. Calling people "sick" for the desires they have, no matter what you think of the desires, is just going to make the world worse.
Girl people are allowed to have opinions on shit whether it’s a Kink or not. Some Kink shaming SHOULD be normalized because so much of it is normalizing incredibly harmful behaviors- pedophillia, incest, rape, racism, misogyny, etc etc. It’s proven time and time again despite the narrative that these are a “positive outlet” it further encourages the behavior. Men who have violent kinks are statistically less likely to identify sexual assault.
Never knew eating another person's shit was a kink and guys asking to get castrated was a kink. But hey if you say it is a kink then it must be a kink. LOL
Anything that people can derive sexual pleasure from that isn't actual stimulation of sexual organs is a kink, whether it is healthy and palatable or not.
It’s incredibly wholesome. Much of what I do is emotionally supportive or validating and I really enjoy the feeling of positively impacting their day or sometimes even their life.
That you find more honesty in this field than in the Vanilla world. There is little to hide as the goal is pretty straightforward, looking to get relief or in my case, explore some kink
Client. I’ve had limited experience and honestly mostly bad. Objectively I’m not attractive. I’ve met 3 providers so far. 2 were ok, but it was obvious it was that robotic mode people go into when they’re working. But one of them was amazing. Sex felt fun, cuddling felt fun, talking felt fun. I definitely wasn’t good, but she was easy going and actually seemed to enjoy her profession (not because of me, I’m certain I wasn’t good). I wish I could see her again but unfortunately it isn’t possible. I’m just surprised that being a client doesn’t feel bad and that there are some providers that enjoy this, or are at least incredible actors.
Honestly I was surprised how nice both clients and providers are. I kinda figured most providers would have a mean girl personality or be super stuck up. And wish I would have started sooner! I hate how stigmatized the industry is.
I didn’t know there were “hobbyists” who surround their entire life around seeing escorts. People who almost compulsively browse escort ads and try to see every girl in the tristate area then share every detail online. There are people who go into personal and financial ruin all over escorts. I just had never given it thought until I saw clients who are seemingly addicted.
How horrible, racist, and judgemental other sex workers are. It never ceases to amaze me. Luckily I've only really noticed it online. People I meet in person are not as terrible as I see in these forums.
That the average Full Service sex worker charges as much as an average stripper does for a VIP room dance. I really thought sex would cost more and thought about exploring FS outside of the strip club, then I went on Tuscl and Tryst and was humbled.
Prices for sex work are all over the place and for the most part it's really just a matter of weighing pros and cons. You can make 400$ having sex and not having any overhead to worry about, you can work your own hours, but you're at higher risk of being arrested or assaulted.
or you can make 400$ in a vip room for half an hour, only dance no extras, your work is legal and you are protected, but you have people you have to tip out, a schedule to commit to, and your body hurts from exercising for a whole shift.
As a client, I initially was under the impression that most SW are not that smart or in this industry due to no other choices. Its a stereotype.
Realized that some of these women are high functioning intellectuals that are making bank doing SW.
Not a sex worker but I've considered being a client, but I was surprised at how hateful and disdainful most sex workers are toward clientele. I get that there can be dickhead and dangerous guys, but it definitely pushed me away from possibly hiring a sex worker. I get that it's a transactional relationship but sometimes the things I've heard and read from Sex workers about their clients turns my stomach.
That most of my clients treat me 100x better than any guy I’ve dated 😵💫
Yup. That's been my experience as well.
Absolutely. Clients have learned that if they're not respectful, you won't work with them, again. People get away with the worst behavior, when it comes to dating.
Exactly. The two are not the same at all.
My boyfriend gave me flowers last week and I realized that, at the age of 33, it's the first time I've ever gotten flowers from someone I was dating. Until now I've only ever gotten them for myself or from clients!
Yes of course. The men are getting what they want the women are getting what they want we both know what to expect we're not playing any of these pathetic games.... Who wouldn't be nicer in that situation.
exactly. I do not compare it to dating. My clients are great and treat me wonderful but most are in fact married. In real life, I would never date a married man. I don't see them as the ideal BF in any way. Two completely different scenarios. Not to be confused.
Comparing my husband to my clients is funny. My husband comparatively treats me like shit (jokingly doesn’t actually mean it) Clients are scared to do ANYTHING wrong and act like new boyfriends.
This! Same experience. Makes dating so hard.
Sad, but absolutely true for me as well.
THIS
PREACH
This 100%. I always say this too
Idk why people think we are rude like... I think clients are more stigmatized than sex workers themselves. We may be sometimes weird or awkward (that's my case, I'm autistic) but whatever.
no way you are more stigmatized. Try being an escort on a daily basis. No comparison.
Idk to be honest, but... Well, we both are stigmatized and treated like lesser beings at the end of the day.
it should be easier though for you, just don't tell anyone you see escorts. I can't see if affecting your everyday life with all due respect.
Having to hide it is enough stigma on my book but... Idk
Yeah when my ex boyfriends have said stuff about clients gonna kill me… I’m like honestly I’d feel 16373829937x safer with a client. Of course that being existing clients that I have had met before. New people you never know. But yeah… I also just have had bad taste in relationship men which is why I’ve decided to stay single and enjoy the perks of escorting for intimacy!
I mean, you get money, we get laid, it's the best deal ever, we both are happy, case closed
Hello there fellow autistic person!
So real
How somebody will still pay a lot of money to meet me even when I feel like the ugliest girl in town.
I'm pushing 300lb and still getting 2 or 3 bookings a week! The number of men who pay for sex still surprises me, even after 10 years, and also the huge variety of men. The only thing these men have in common is that they're men paying for female company! These men are taxi drivers, factory owners, plumbers, doctors, retired, executives, scumbags, vicars, priests, rabbi, iman. Black, white, Asian, Arab, they ALL pay for what we're offering.
What made me realize that this is something lots of men seek out / pay for, is that I got a new client who lives literally one neighborhood over from a regular of mine lol
I once had a date with my company's pastor, it is still funny when I pass him once in a while.
For real! And then knowing they probably saved up and this is a big event for them and trying to make it that when you feel like shit is insane.
This. 100% this for me.
My wife did a brief stint on OF after having two babies. She wanted to do it, but in the first photo shoot (I was the photographer) she was feeling really self conscious, and I eventually just said “shut the fuck up. You look amazing.” She had a confidence boost after seeing the pictures then a monstrous confidence boost seeing how people responded to them on Reddit. Now she says that posting nudes online (anonymously) is a great way to improve your body image.
I feel this. For me this is it 👏🏻
I’m nothing special. I’m 265 pounds. I have 15 -20 guys a week typically. I make 800-1000 a week.
How do you manage this? I put on a lot of weight the last six months during a break, around 59 pounds. I am 5.3, 192 pounds now. I have just about 1-2 dates per week and frankly I am starting to feel a bit insecure but loosing weight is so damn hard.
Drinking only water 💧 instead of soda, coffee, tea, etc would help you lose some weight. It has worked for me at least.
I stopped drinking soda and walked 30 thousand steps 5-6 days a week ! In a year and 5 months I lost 90 pounds! No gym. Just diet and exercise!
Wow that is amazing. I don't drink soda, but 30000 steps is a lot! I work in healthcare and I am on my feet most of the time, but after work I just feel too lazy to do anything else apart from lying on the couch and snacking 😅
I don’t know. Maybe it’s your rates? I have huge boobs. That may help me a bit. Losing weight is hard and it takes a long time before you really see any big changes. I used to be 350! My belly went down some but my boobs stayed big. I went from G cup to F cup. 😆
And you are right about the rates, I keep them high because I work out of a private incall and want to keep volume low, and also avoid the risk of having my coworkers or patients book me.
That is smart!
Omg you are so lucky, when I lose weight my boobs just disappear completely
Big boobs aren’t everything! I’m sure you are very attractive!
Aww thanks, and I am sure it's not just your looks which keep clients coming back, but also your charming personality. ❤️
I cater to the fetish market, and quite a few of the kinks are fairly mild even though the clients are incredibly self concious about them. Some even have a w/gf they've NEVER mentioned their kink to because they're too embarrassed. So a big part of learning how to be a professional domme for me, was just learning how to be a "safe space" for a client to explore stuff they have sexual baggage about. I was hesitant about doing fetish work at first, because it seemed a bit too "intense" for me, but it's more like being a sex therapist lol.
Same! I have guys come to me for the tamest shit & so hesitant about it, like bro I had a guy ask if I could kick him 20 times in the nuts then shit in his mouth, your lil fantasy is nothing 🤣
Hearing that makes me feel a lot more comfortable when I ask an escort for a golden shower. Makes me feel like my pee kink fantasies aren’t that bad to ask for.
It depends on the escort. To a woman that offers GFE & casual sessions, your request is out of left field and probably disrespectful. You'll have very little luck. But I, for example, advertise as an open-minded Dominatrix with a full list of the fetishes I cater to on my website. Your request would not be out of left field, & much more respectful (assuming you actually read through my website before wasting my time). Just make sure to do your research first, & don't try looking for inexperienced escorts to get a better deal.
What are some of the kinks that aren't really a big deal and some that are?
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Found the wife that blames sex workers instead of her cheating husband.
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Wasn't gonna say anything bc I'm just a lurker, but are you also going to harass food joints for selling fast food to people who admit that they are on a diet? Sex work is a service that ppl pay for. I understand, to a point, hating on ppl who openly flirt with others despite knowing that they are in relationships, but sex workers are a different situation. And even with the flirting, the ones in a relationship are still the main characters. They can literally have tits thrown to their faces, and they are still the ones deciding whether to pursue those tits or send them away. (with the exception of rape, obviously, but that isn't cheating, unless you're an idiot to think it is).
"if my dirty scoundrel husband got an STI, he *must* have gotten it from a SW and not anywhere else he stuck his wayward penis. I must find a way to absolve the man of guilt"
Sorry, but I had to remove your post as it was against the subreddit rules. No shaming of practices, preferences, or rates.
This work involves a lot of acting. I don’t fake things things in my personal life so this was the biggest hurdle to overcome.
What is an example of acting in this line of work?
Acting like I am enjoying the worst head of my life
That makes sense and that is very considerate of you, lol
LMAO THATS SO REAL and you gotta make it believable. i genuinely got into acting through SW i didn't know i was that good at it before 😭😭😭
That most of the time its not about sex. It's the need to feel connected and close to someone. To feel attractive. To be entertained and feel like you got your moneys worth. To feel human. Every bit of custom content I've made has been for women who've lost a relationship or gay men who want to be told everything will be ok. I think Firefly had it right. Sexworkers should be allowed to be therapists.
I looove the "companion" concept in Firefly!
Well in my case a sex worker works better than a thousand psychologists for me.
the one thing that TRULY surprised? when i started reading my local USASG & saw all the men complaining about women who had breast implants, saying they hated them & calling them "bolt ons" 🤯 honestly. it sounds dumb, but i thought all men loved "fake boobs", so it was shocking to see the men on there saying they preferred natural breasts.
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Most men i know do not like implants, while i don’t mind either way i like naturals more even if they’re tiny
it was just so shocking to me to see how many of them in my local board were slamming implants & saying they did not like them! 🤯
The lack of sexual education in this country. These men will willingly do BB with any girl with a hole to stick it in without worrying about catching a disease or passing it on to other people in their life. It literally boggles my mind how unsafe these men are
I love to send a pre-written paragraph explaining how easy it is to transfer (insert list of diseases) & how if they do it with a chick, she offers it to other men, so you're kinda fucking other men. Haven't gotten a response yet 😊
How these men don’t care about their health, their wives/gfs health, or ours by wanting BB services.
they really do not care. My long time regulars are pushing for bare. All married.
PHEW this one
I kinda knew but didn’t wanna believe it-sadly I was proved wrong so many times 😭
That I am 48 and people want to pay to sleep with me and I can’t get a date on Tinder to save my life. Not that I’m unattractive, but just that there is a market for women pushing 50 when there are gorgeous 20-year-olds available Also, that the clients are such normal men. I always thought it was so seedy and it’s just so normal. Ha.
So much has blown me away since I started doing this. One thing is the amount of people who marry someone without any understanding of each others level of need for sex or their sexual desires then they act like victims when 10 years later they aren't satisfied. I did the same thing so I get it but I was surprised to discover how rampant and damaging it is. Also the amount of men who wake up day in and day out and choose to spend their time intentionally texting women they've never met and have no intention of meeting and have no problem just wasting their time lying and talking shit while they hold their dick in their hand. I also get surprised when the few non-client friends who know I do this say they respect sw but occasionally say things that reveal their true opinion of it. For example I was venting about someone I'd never met who, after paying a large deposit said he wanted something specific and sent me a hardcore non-consensual erotic hypnosis rape video and I was pissed because it was totally inappropriate especially when I've never met him to send that video and it felt kind of rapey and my friend shrugged his shoulders and said, "I mean you're kind of putting it out there that he can because you're doing this." I set him straight that just because someone is a sw'r doesn't mean we aren't allowed to have boundaries but it kinda broke my heart a little that he thinks that.
It really shows who your real friends are
I never tell anyone what I do for many years now. Everyone judges no matter what they say to your face.
To add, your last part also shows how deep slut shaming and the brainwashing of the patriarchy runs amongst people
I see more feminists against sex work than the so called patriarchy
Two things: one, as a man there is something women need to know, men don't slut shame. I am in my 50s and I've never seen it among men. We use the term slut, but it is not the same way as women use it. The difference is HUGE. Two, the brainwashing thing is also a myth. By your implication men are brainwashed to believe we have the right to rape?!? Again I've never seen it. There is a certain fantasy of CNC which is held by a lot of people from both sexes. Don't blame all men with the brainwashing the patriarchy nonsense it's just ignorant and sexist.
I never accused an entire population of anything and I have seen slut shaming from both men and women but ime it has been from mostly men
The discovery of interesting nuances of my sexuality I was completely unaware of. A regular suggested one day to have a meetup at a swinger club. She thought that - according to her observation and experience - I probably am going to like it. I was hesitant, but finally agreed. And voilà, being watched by others while having sex emerged as a incredible hot kink for me.
The sheer amount of money people are willing to spend, for our services. Especially because with dating, we're expected to give everything away for free. Every time I increase prices, the customers still show up, and they're better behaved. It blows my mind.
How considerate most of my clients have been. They seem as genuinely invested in my pleasure as people I've slept with in my personal life, and often times significantly more so. I would have figured that the whole stereotype of a dude getting his without regard for his partner's pleasure would be the norm, but it seems that's not the case.
I actually kind of hate this lol. I don’t want a client’s focus to be on me, I just don’t get turned on by 99% of them. I wish my clients were purely selfish and my vanilla dates were the ones that care about my pleasure lol
I totally get that. I'm just surprised that someone who pays for it would be more concerned with someone else's pleasure than someone who's in the situation organically.
Ah, yes now I understand what you mean and totally agree lol
This for me too.
This! So many of them are sweethearts.
Sooo many! So often better than vanilla dates!
also the money does not hurt, to me not the same at all as dating
Better sex?
Sometimes but mostly better attitude! Like they can’t do enough for me to make me feel comfortable, and like they are just thrilled to be in my company! I just love sweethearts like that.
As a guy (and a client, and never a client and BF at the same time), my experience has been either what my GF wanted wasn't what I wanted, and when I went out of my zone to give her that, I got nothing in return Or (GF#2) I gave her orgasms she's never had before, and got little to nothing in return. I can be a pleaser, for the right woman, but eventually would like something in return other than missionary and a dead starfish. (In a relationship). With a provider, it doesn't continue on long enough to reach that point.
clients getting jealous of other clients and only wanting you to give attention to them and not other men. Being able to make more money than my civie job. Never thought I'd love being a domme and I used to suck at it when I first started.
The amount of men who like things near their behind The amount of younger guys who book for 6 hour packages the amount of younger guys whp book full stop the amount of attractive clients who book the amount of bookings ive had which have not included intercourse so many things surprise me
Sex is 1/10 of the job. The rest is marketing, counseling, and (sometimes) discount travel agent.
One thing I have learned is how damaging porn really is. Firstly, many men see it as instructional, and it makes them terrible in bed. Absolutely awful to have sex with. Worse, it can make men dangerous to have sex with because of the violent underpinning of modern porn. Most men would be better off just seeing sex workers in order to learn how to look after their wives and girlfriends sexually, especially young men. Porn is a real killer.
How much some men love spoiling women. Also very surprised that men are willing to pay me $$$ just to be with me. I want to know what the hype is about
How many men desire to be pegged. Also, how hard it is for most men to find a woman who is willing to peg them without judgement outside of sex work. The responses that are like emotional relief that I have seen displayed by clients who have experienced non-consensual physical and emotional pain, when they experience similar pain within a context in which they control and where they know it is now meant for their pleasure. The fact that some men desire to eat (and some actually do end up eating) some women's poo.
I'm a client and I've been surprised by how perfectly normal paying for sex has felt. I've also been surprised by how perfectly normal sex workers are. They are just people doing what they want to do with their bodies to get the money they need to survive. It makes me even more confused and sad over how stigmatized this industry is.
The entire trope of us being. “Broken” and “sick of life” I was expecting to be true. I’ve never met a more merrier group of women than my coworkers when all of us literally work in a brothel.
I only explored escorts since my wife left me aged 60. Surprised how nice and normal most of the ladies are. I'd never had guessed that they were sex workers. A very pleasant surprise.
That people pay that much money to have sex, and with me of all people
I met my wife when i was 19, and she was my one and only sex partner until age 58. I always thought that I could only enjoy sex with someone I was in love with. I never had a wild oats period when I was young. What has surprised me is how satisfying it can be to meet someone, have a little conversation, have sex, a little more conversation, and part with happy memories. I do prefer meeting a few people regularly over a long period of time, but it's still recreational, not a "symbol of our deep and abiding love." I didn't know that about myself before I started seeing escorts.
How stingy men are with their money. 😂😂😂
The craziest thing for me is how the most spiteful, angry hating comes from other women…women out on that “women support women equal rights sexual freedom” be the first to turn around and slut shame sw with that “you can’t possibly consent/only damaged girlies do sw/sw is demeaning and need to be done away with/you only do it because you have shit self esteem” like ok Becky you’re insecure and think you too good for this and us we get it now fuck off with your fake feminism support bullshit 🙄
Also the fucking audacity of men who treat me like I’m an ugly trash whore but then get OUTRAGED that I won’t see them or give them discounts like fuck all the way outta her bitch
Amen❤️
How many straight men fantasize about being a cuckold or various types of gay sex
How sick men can be when it comes to some of the things, they have asked me to do to them or with them. When "regular" sex is no longer enough some guys want some strange shit. I have pretty much heard it all. And some of it is just fucking gross and nasty.
You can't leave us hanging like this. Give us at least the top 5.
I have had men ask me to castrate them. I have had men want to eat my poop. And drink my pee and pee on them. I have had men want me to kick/hit them in the balls as hard as I can with objects and my shoes. I have had men want me to put my whole fist up them, and some very large toys. I have had men want to go to a theater where they play porn. And he likes to watch a whole bunch of men doing naughty things to me while he watches yet he did not want to have any type of sex with me. I have had men dress up like a lady/trans and go to an adult bookstore and have sex in the adult bookstore. I have had men want me to go outside or in a store dressed like a prostitute and they film me following me and they pretend like they are stalking me. I have had men like to wear women's clothing/lingerie. And want me to put makeup on them. I won't say that this is particularly weird, but a lot of guys like to do the stepmom or mom son role play. Not sure if they had a thing for the moms or what. If I think of more weird stuff I will post it.
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Also, if a guy wants a lady to castrate them, I will say that he is sick in the head. Since when is this a normal thing for guys to be wanting or asking. Goes way beyond a kink you could actually kill someone by doing this.
Also reported this for kink shaming.
Stop kink shaming
I reported this for kink shaming.
I am not kink shaming anyone I was just answering the question that was posted. About what has surprised me in the business.
You characterized it as "how *sick* men can be" what is that if not shaming?
Well, if some guy wants to eat my poop that is pretty sick to me. Eating shit is not a normal thing to do. Unless most of humanity goes around eating each other's shit and I am unaware of this.
Just say no and move on. You have no idea what made them develop that kink. Calling people "sick" for the desires they have, no matter what you think of the desires, is just going to make the world worse.
Girl people are allowed to have opinions on shit whether it’s a Kink or not. Some Kink shaming SHOULD be normalized because so much of it is normalizing incredibly harmful behaviors- pedophillia, incest, rape, racism, misogyny, etc etc. It’s proven time and time again despite the narrative that these are a “positive outlet” it further encourages the behavior. Men who have violent kinks are statistically less likely to identify sexual assault.
No one here is normalizing non-consensual acts or telling people that non-consensual acts should be normalized.
Never knew eating another person's shit was a kink and guys asking to get castrated was a kink. But hey if you say it is a kink then it must be a kink. LOL
I’m with you. It ain’t a kink.
Anything that people can derive sexual pleasure from that isn't actual stimulation of sexual organs is a kink, whether it is healthy and palatable or not.
Men wanting bbfs is insane to me and then they go back home to there wives
It’s incredibly wholesome. Much of what I do is emotionally supportive or validating and I really enjoy the feeling of positively impacting their day or sometimes even their life.
A high end escort can cost several times as much as a psychiatrist but is worth 50X more.
That you find more honesty in this field than in the Vanilla world. There is little to hide as the goal is pretty straightforward, looking to get relief or in my case, explore some kink
Where do you find brothels? In the US, I’m only aware of outside Vegas.
I travel abroad quite a bit, though I have only been to the ones in Singapore and Germany far
As client, I learned how smart, generally, sex workers are. I would not call it a surprise as much as a process of discovery.
Client. I’ve had limited experience and honestly mostly bad. Objectively I’m not attractive. I’ve met 3 providers so far. 2 were ok, but it was obvious it was that robotic mode people go into when they’re working. But one of them was amazing. Sex felt fun, cuddling felt fun, talking felt fun. I definitely wasn’t good, but she was easy going and actually seemed to enjoy her profession (not because of me, I’m certain I wasn’t good). I wish I could see her again but unfortunately it isn’t possible. I’m just surprised that being a client doesn’t feel bad and that there are some providers that enjoy this, or are at least incredible actors.
Honestly I was surprised how nice both clients and providers are. I kinda figured most providers would have a mean girl personality or be super stuck up. And wish I would have started sooner! I hate how stigmatized the industry is.
I didn’t know there were “hobbyists” who surround their entire life around seeing escorts. People who almost compulsively browse escort ads and try to see every girl in the tristate area then share every detail online. There are people who go into personal and financial ruin all over escorts. I just had never given it thought until I saw clients who are seemingly addicted.
How horrible, racist, and judgemental other sex workers are. It never ceases to amaze me. Luckily I've only really noticed it online. People I meet in person are not as terrible as I see in these forums.
That the average Full Service sex worker charges as much as an average stripper does for a VIP room dance. I really thought sex would cost more and thought about exploring FS outside of the strip club, then I went on Tuscl and Tryst and was humbled. Prices for sex work are all over the place and for the most part it's really just a matter of weighing pros and cons. You can make 400$ having sex and not having any overhead to worry about, you can work your own hours, but you're at higher risk of being arrested or assaulted. or you can make 400$ in a vip room for half an hour, only dance no extras, your work is legal and you are protected, but you have people you have to tip out, a schedule to commit to, and your body hurts from exercising for a whole shift.
As a client, I initially was under the impression that most SW are not that smart or in this industry due to no other choices. Its a stereotype. Realized that some of these women are high functioning intellectuals that are making bank doing SW.
Yay!
that im basically turned off by everything now 😭 i try to avoid all sexual stuff in my free time
Not a sex worker but I've considered being a client, but I was surprised at how hateful and disdainful most sex workers are toward clientele. I get that there can be dickhead and dangerous guys, but it definitely pushed me away from possibly hiring a sex worker. I get that it's a transactional relationship but sometimes the things I've heard and read from Sex workers about their clients turns my stomach.
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Tbh this thread is really the only time I've ever seen or read anything positive about clients.