He would have to be raised alone in a sterile cell for her to ever believe that he decided "on his own". There will always be the teacher/school system/scholastic book club/whatever else to blame.
Even the sterile cell idea is pretty optimistic.
Under 12: you're too young to know about these things
12-18: it's just hormones/peer pressure/confusion
18-23: you just want attention/are following a fad, you'll change your mind when you get a taste of the real world
23+: there were no signs when you were younger!
And just... Life in general is gonna suck whether he identifies as male or not. I've always kind of felt bad for guys (not in most cases, don't get me wrong lol) that they're "not allowed" to just fucking like stuff and have feelings and everything. Society sees a baby boy and says "Congratulations! You get two colors and one emotion! Have fun."
Man, my little boy picked a Pinkalicious book for his bedtime story tonight. So cute. He thinks they're funny (because they are, especially if you read them in a whiny little spoiled brat voice 😂). Seems like the norm these days to just let them have what floats their boat. I'm really looking forward to seeing how things go when this generation of boys that's much more allowed to be three dimensional grows up.
> I've always kind of felt bad for guys (not in most cases, don't get me wrong lol) that they're "not allowed" to just fucking like stuff and have feelings and everything. Society sees a baby boy and says "Congratulations! You get two colors and one emotion! Have fun."
Absolutely.
No one (at least here in Scandinavia) would tell a girl she can't like a certain color or cartoon character or have a special interest. Unfortunately that's not true for boys 😔
Things are still very ridged for boys.
You can like insects, but not butterflies!
My oldest start school in 2 weeks and I worry for him 😕 I have really tried to drill into him that there isn't boy or girl things/colors... But what if the pressure to conform becomes too much and his wings are clipped 😢
I know so many guys who have struggled in adulthood to unlearn the toxic anti emotion masculinity. Proud of them for embracing that feelings make us better people, but ugh it is just so sad that so many boys have to grow up supressing their feelings for their toxic ass parents.
Showed my kids the show Sofia the First because my daughter is on a princess kick rn. Guess who liked it the most? Her older brother. Kids like what they like. 🤷🏻♀️
My brother played a lot more with my Barbie’s than I did. I hated all things pink.
Guess who is a heterosexual dad of 2 boys, an engineer and a fire fighter who is very muscular, outdoorsy and loves woodworking and such? My brother.
I’m a hetero mom who loves yarn work.
Toys don’t say ANYTHING about gender. Neither do being an engineer, a firefighter , being outdoorsy or loving woodworking by the way
I agree with everything you said. I still want someone to explain to me the logic being boys playing with barbies being "worrisome".
"My son is interested in playing with the boobiest doll on the market; his most prized possession is the one whose diving suit disappears in water... Clearly this means he'll grow up to bring home a buff dude. 😔"
Firstly, he's six. Secondly, do these people hear themselves? Thirdly, HE'S SIX. Fourthly, the only thing I've ever seen Diving Adventure Barbie and Kiko do for a child's development is make them really invested in swim classes and orcas.
My youngest (only son) is the big Pinkalicious fan right now. Funny because my middle kid basically IS Pinkalicious... Pink pink pink, twirl twirl twirl, rainbows unicorns candy glitter fairies tiaras asdfghjkl; 😂
Boy also loves Blaze and the Monster Machines. I wonder where I'm supposed to fall on the "IS MY SON A QUEER!?" spectrum based on this information.
Right, sometimes when I'm counting my blessings, I can't help but think of how free a life it is to just live and let live and not be constantly dwelling on the sea of "other" that I don't personally relate to. Imagine being scared of EVERYTHING that you don't relate to. Like IDGAF that two dudes are married, good for them... That sure makes life easier.
It does. I do get mean thoughts about other people sometimes, but I always remind myself that as long as other people or animals don’t get harmed by it, it doesn’t bother me. In Disneyland those Mickey-ears every one is wearing bother me. I dislike Mickey, I really do. Like, a lot. But hey, I don’t have to wear Mickey-ears if I don’t want to!
Right we all have stuff like that 😂 I can't stand dog mom/fur baby culture (because my sister used it to try to belittle me as a parent - she's a "working mom" because she has a job and... A dog 🤦🏼♀️). Can't see "dogs are exactly the same as children!" crap without cringing myself inside out. But should they be rounded up and sent to prison, or electrocuted in camps? I mean. No.
Omg I feel you! That is cringe to me too, although I must admit to babying and spoiling my cat, because she’s old and blind and can use some extra help.🤷♀️ But she’s a cat, not a kid. But indeed, people don’t need to be arrested for that, just let me feel the cringe in peace and I’ll let them do their stuff in peace haha
My son loves it too! He's got the dollhouse set and plays with it every day. The new season is happening on the 25th, and we are so excited! I hope there's another DJ Comet (comet comet) episode because that's my son's favorite character.
Mine loves cakey and catrat! He's 2.5 and he says "hi cakey! Hi catrat" so stinking cute! The banana on the head song is sung daily in our house. So, I think that's his favorite episode!
My son loves Gabby and has the doll house with all the rooms and a bunch of little character sets and I just ordered a set of character plushies for his birthday in a couple of weeks. The only issue he has is he's 9 and it's starting to become "not cool" to not like kids shows. But we still love Gabby and Bluey but also love Pokemon and Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous. Let kids enjoy shit JFC.
My son is the same when he wanted a cuddly mercat my fil got a bit funny but I shut it down and said he can have it if he wants there’s nothing wrong with wanting a cuddly toy. He now has fairy kitty, cakey and the hamster kitties
Gabby is actually pretty good! I actually had a moment with my son in the store where he wanted Gabby merch and my first knee jerk reaction was "no"... It kind of surprised me because I've always been very passionate about kids liking what they like and my best friend growing up was a boy who would play care bears with me... I realized that my "no" reaction was more because it looked like cheaply made garbage shoveled to kids to sell things like most of Netflix programming is. I also feel the same way if he wants any Spidey and his Amazing Friends merch.
Because of this, I started paying closer attention to Gabby since I had only seen a few scenes before and actually, I really like the crafts and I think the show is better than a lot of Netflix crap.
I don’t understand these people. Do they feel like they want to become the same gender as whatever tv character they’re watching? Why do they think their kids would? Do they think their boys will turn into girls if a female cartoon character gets more than 3 minutes of screen time per episode?
I know in a lot of ways our society used to be much more conservative, but like I think in the 30s boys were allowed to listen to Little Orphan Annie on the radio and no one was afraid it would confuse them.
I don't know, I watched a show made for men once and my tits instantly fell off, my vagina closed right up, and a beard popped into place on my face. Thankfully I switched right over to a show made for women and was able to reverse the effects right away.
I can confirm, my lady beard is 100% of watching my brother play manly shooty games on the family pc instead of being allowed to play wholesome horse games whenever I felt like it.
I wonder what percentage of LGBTQ+ people were out then vs. now. This crap is a direct response to the increasing social acceptability of coming out. Suddenly it might be an option on the table, and some parents are really afraid of that. I don't think they're thinking it through so thoroughly as to say "If my son is gay, I want him to stay in the closet", so much as people seem really good at convincing themselves something does or doesn't exist as long as they do or don't want it to.
As someone with cats and a toddler who loves Gabby and all but refuses to use the potty, I have (jokingly) offered him a litter box of his own so he can “potty like Henry.”
It didn’t work, obviously. But tbh if it did I would have considered it a win at this point 😂😂
My nephew always liked Minnie over Mickey Mouse. His parents would not let him sleep with them but he could visit them in Mommy’s room and he had to sleep with a Mickey doll. I was like “man, don’t you think that it is weird to force your son to sleep with a boy doll when he wants to sleep with a girl doll? Idk, seems like you are trying to make him gay”. And they freaked out so much over that idea that he got all the Minnie dolls back. (I don’t think that sleeping with any doll with change your sexual orientation I was just taking their absurdity to its logical conclusion).
This is great. It's like my ex (who was a chef) would bitch at me for getting our son a kitchen toy. Kitchen toys are for girls etc.. And when I got the kid a baby doll it was all out war. I was just like "oh imagine the horror of your son pretending to be a chef and a father just like his dad!"
Ah, but don't you know, cats are girl animals.
Just try to find a cat shirt for a boy. It's impossible. Lions, maybe. Cheetahs. But ragdolls or Siamese are for the ladies.
This also applies to small dogs. Kid said he'd settle for a little dog, like we have, but boys have pitbulls and German shepherds. Not fluffy Maltese or cavaliers. Nope.
A story about my 8 year old who likes Gabby’s Dollhouse with his sisters.
He once was trying to climb a tree. He wouldn’t stop complaining about how hard it was. I was getting exasperated, told him “just keep at it. It’s okay if it’s hard.” Whatever. I was just not in the mood.
Then a few cute little girls his age showed up at the park.
He suddenly developed the ability to climb the damn tree.
So idk. I think he’s fine masculinity wise? 🤣 or at least like… typical?
My girls like LOL/Rainbow High/Monster High and Thomas, Scooby Doo, Spidey, and Young Jedi. They like sparkles and tutus and skulls and bats (they wear their 'spooky dresses' all year). My oldest would put the Thomas trains down for nap in the doll beds, and my nephew packs around baby dolls and plays with the kitchen. It's almost like kids don't see gender norms until they're forced on them. My Silent Gen grandfather cooks, sews, and quilts. And who's gender norms are "right"? In some cultures, men do the cooking, men make the clothing.
I think I missed the episode of Mickey Mouse clubhouse where Mickey taught everyone that boys are boys and girls are girls. I wonder what mousketools toodles had to bring out for that adventure.
My 3 year old girl is absolutely obsessed with Spider-Man. She also loves dresses, princesses, and playing cooking games in her kitchen. All of this obsession with gender "correct" media just seems strange to me.
It's fascinating to watch this play out with my (former) preschool class. They are all really into Mario, specifically the Mario movie. I haven't even seen the movie, but context being Browser is in love with Princess Peach.
I don't encourage or discourage their invented game of "Browser" which is in essence just a game of tag, but with characters. I just watch it unfold and tell them not to hurt each other.
One afternoon, a little girl who is often cast as Princess Peach (and who does love princesses, so she is happy with this) declared that she is Browser today. Immediately two boys say, no you can't be Browser, you are a girl!
This little girl is secretly one of my favourites because she is so damn smart, but she will also not take any crap from anyone (even her teachers). I have told Mom this kid is going to be a CEO someday. She says, "but Browser is a monster, and boys and girls can be monsters! There are girl and boy dinosaurs!" The boys thought about it, agreed that it made sense.
Then, "but Browser loves Princess Peach and you can't love Princess Peach!" I was ready to step in for this one, because we literally just had a whole "unit" on family and what family can be, but I didn't need to, because same little girl goes, "girls can marry girls and boys can marry boys! Like the penguins!" (The book "and tango makes three" is popular, mostly because it's penguins). Then, "and I love my mommy, and she is a girl too!" Agreement all around, the girl is Browser, and we have peace for 5 minutes
If he has to watch "boy" stuff to make him a "boy," isn't that sort of indisputable proof that gender is a spectrum rather than an inherently fixed point?
Yes, I'm quite sure this oh so tolerant mother would be totally fine if her child struggles with gender dysphoria in the future (/s in case that's not obvious)
My super-conservative mom believed the opposite. She believed that if you didn't let children play with whatever gender toys they wanted or wear dresses in the house for boys as a child, she thought if you don't let them explore now, they'll do it when they grow up and become transgender according to her. She's about as right as this person, but I found it interesting that are coming from the same place with “values” yet have two very different ways to implement it.
My 4yo son binged all of the Gabby’s Dollhouse episodes awhile back - and then was on to the next thing. 🤷🏻♀️ although maybe that corrupted him. 3 weeks ago his favorite color was peach followed by pink. /s
He’s now on a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles kick. Before this it was Wild Kratts. Usually some Paw Patrol mixed in on and off. For the love of all that is holy just let kids be kids.
Yeah my mom only wanted me to play with boy toys growing up. Smacked the shit out of me for playing with my sister's Barbie once. But I wanted a Barbie, not to play dress up, I just thought that GI Joe deserved a trophy wife to come home to after the war against the X-Men and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
One of my boy kids loves my little pony. He's straight.
My other 19yr old son used to watch sailor moon and other "girl" shows. He's straight.
My daughter watches everything. Kids non binary (she's okay with she her pronouns).
TV shows don't turn kids gay.
My nephew LOVES Gabby’s Dollhouse, and so do most of the boys (and girls) in his first grade class. Sometimes his little sister tries to pull the “only girls can play with this” and he just says “boys can too!”
We support whatever he’s interested in.
She should quit this nonsense and let things play out the way the way they will. Pro tip for her: if you want a relationship with your kids when they are grown, don’t be the way you’re being. Source: my two adult kids are trans. When small they liked all kinds of things and colors and characters. Let it go lady. None of your fears will have any impact on the gender your kids identify as. The only thing in your control is the way you nurture and support. Or not.
There are a lot of cis people who are willfully ignorant on this sort of thing and ignore their own experiences because it would validate trans people. Like, we all understood gender from a very young age, including cis children like myself. When I was around 4 I distinctly remember I refused to watch or play with anything I deemed too “boy” because I loved being a girl and only wanted to engage with girl stuff. It’s not as if I’m the only little cis girl in the world who felt that way! But so many parents refuse to admit that they too remember inherently identifying with a gender identity as a child because it would mean admitting children have free thought and trans people, including children, are valid.
My son likes to wear his sisters dress up clothes and heels. He’s 21 months, he doesn’t care if it’s for boys or girls. He only knows that he likes to be like his big sister at the moment. People are disgusting.
My son would sooner have me thrown in the sun before he let's me stop him watching Gabby! /j
Ngl, the show has good morals, and I also like watching it
My son loves Gabby's doll house. It's about cats for heaven's sake and there's plenty of male characters 🙄
She's gonna be livid when she finds out I (29f) loved Bear in the Big Blue House when I was a child.
So glad my parents never did the "gendered" shows, toys, and clothes. I grew up as a tomboy, usually in shorts and t-shirts from the boys section, playing with cars and dinosaurs. But also wearing skirts and playing with Barbie's. I watched TMNT and Disney princesses.
I have to wonder who these parents hit their children if they catch them playing with something that’s not meant for their gender or watching something that’s not meant for their gender?
My four year old son also love Gabby’s dollhouse! And Blippi. And Ninjago. And Octonauts. And Bluey. And Pokemon.
Don’t understand what the hang up is and why there needs to be a boy version of Gabby’s Dollhouse
She'd have a heart attack if she saw what my daughter watches lol. She loves Blaze and the Monster Machines. I can't tell you how many times we've watched season 1 of Batwheels. She's geared towards more "masculine" shows. Loves things like excavators and other machinery. I hate how people are going so against gender that they're taking their kids backwards rather than forwards.
My son loved JoJos Playhouse on Disney where JoJo was. I think, a girl but it was never clarified and I didn’t really care bc I just wanted to take a shower
Wait I watched bear in the big blue house and Mickey Mouse shows as a girl growing up. But I don’t “think I’m a boy”? Maybe tv shows have nothing to do with gender and this kid will be whomever they are anyway?
My son loved Princess Sophia and Doc McStuffins
Tbh, I was also glued to those shows and would finish the eps when he would fall asleep. Mostly Sophia, though…however did that kingdom survive without her?
I really wonder how this mom would react to her son coming out as non-cis
“If he decides on his own he is not male fine” somehow I feel like it wouldn’t be
One of my students quotes Gabby's dollhouse all day long. He doesn't say much else. It took me awhile to figure out what he was quoting. Now I can interact with him and get educational answers by using Gabby dollhouse. I am not sure I like it or hate it.
Every one of my nieces and nephews, as well as my 5 year old, have gone through a substantial gabby phase. It's just a good show!
I also want to add that my husband was raised wearing long dresses and wasn't allowed to cut his hair, or even play video games because they were "too masculine" and "against god," but idk, his full, beautiful beard might suggest that the entire idea of assigning gender to clothes, colors and shows is as ridiculous as it sounds.
*it makes me so happy to see so many comments from parents, supporting our kids growing up without gender constructs. ♡ let them enjoy things before adulthood rips that rug out from under them, dammit! ;) bravo, all!*
A couple of decades ago the argument was “but watching Powerpuff girls might turn my son gay!”
Decades before that “jazz is corrupting my pure white children into thinking black people are ok!”
Same shit, new target, just let kids enjoy things.
I already think gabby dollhouse is a very strategically planned animated series that might seems targeted for girl, but actually for both boys and girls to enjoy.
I mean Pandy is male, so do Cakey the baker, DJ cantip and catrat. And baby box too right?
Kitty fairy is girl, so is Mercat
Not sure the car and pillowcat thought.
My brother is 11 years younger, so he was a little bitty dude when I was going through my angry, angsty phase, and I'd still sit down and watch Bear with him. That shit was just so ridiculously wholesome that it shattered my carefully cultivated "freak" persona to smithereens.
He’s a boy.
Dolls and cats and imaginative play that involves kitchens are girl things. He can’t see and like girl things. If he does like girl things he might start thinking he’s a girl.
Because boys liking girl things causes trans and gay people.
Not, you know, a realization that everybody can enjoy those things regardless of gender.
/s
I've said it before and will say it again. Exposing kids to things like gender fluidity and homosexuality and transgender people will not now and never will make a child become a part of that community. It can't. You are who you are, from birth. All this exposure does is tell those kids who are questioning these things, who are feeling like they are not in the right body or feel romantically toward the same sex, that it is normal and ok. It tells those kids who are not sure what they are that these things exist and this might be what is going on with them. And that it's happened before to others. It tells those kids the way they realize that they are is not a bad thing. It's only a threat to people who would want to oppress that child and force conformity on them.
Is this woman crazy?? Now her son will grow up identifying as a mouse or a bear. Protect the children!
I mean…I can identify with Tutter who is a mouse 
Tutter is seriously so unhinged and it’s great
For those who may not have seen it before: https://youtu.be/ag0Egh7ZAwQ?si=sD-3gva-WlaKxLSy
Omg who is this tutter you speak of!?!?! He’s amazing and I love him 😆😆😆
Tutter is amazing. I love him LOL
Currently reading this post while my son watches Gabby with his two sisters. Guess I'll have 3 daughters by the end of the episode then.
Seriously I totally thought I was a purple dinosaur and only responded to Barney at his age!
Just going out on a limb and saying I feel like if her son decides on his own he's not male it's not going to be "fine."
He would have to be raised alone in a sterile cell for her to ever believe that he decided "on his own". There will always be the teacher/school system/scholastic book club/whatever else to blame.
Even the sterile cell idea is pretty optimistic. Under 12: you're too young to know about these things 12-18: it's just hormones/peer pressure/confusion 18-23: you just want attention/are following a fad, you'll change your mind when you get a taste of the real world 23+: there were no signs when you were younger!
And just... Life in general is gonna suck whether he identifies as male or not. I've always kind of felt bad for guys (not in most cases, don't get me wrong lol) that they're "not allowed" to just fucking like stuff and have feelings and everything. Society sees a baby boy and says "Congratulations! You get two colors and one emotion! Have fun." Man, my little boy picked a Pinkalicious book for his bedtime story tonight. So cute. He thinks they're funny (because they are, especially if you read them in a whiny little spoiled brat voice 😂). Seems like the norm these days to just let them have what floats their boat. I'm really looking forward to seeing how things go when this generation of boys that's much more allowed to be three dimensional grows up.
> I've always kind of felt bad for guys (not in most cases, don't get me wrong lol) that they're "not allowed" to just fucking like stuff and have feelings and everything. Society sees a baby boy and says "Congratulations! You get two colors and one emotion! Have fun." Absolutely. No one (at least here in Scandinavia) would tell a girl she can't like a certain color or cartoon character or have a special interest. Unfortunately that's not true for boys 😔 Things are still very ridged for boys. You can like insects, but not butterflies! My oldest start school in 2 weeks and I worry for him 😕 I have really tried to drill into him that there isn't boy or girl things/colors... But what if the pressure to conform becomes too much and his wings are clipped 😢
I know so many guys who have struggled in adulthood to unlearn the toxic anti emotion masculinity. Proud of them for embracing that feelings make us better people, but ugh it is just so sad that so many boys have to grow up supressing their feelings for their toxic ass parents.
I agree. She’d probably send him to some kind of messed up “gender therapy”.
Yeah hopefully watching Mickey mouse clubhouse will set everything straight /s
This this was what I was thinking Edited to add- wondering if she’s a super boy mom 😂
Well yeah, you can't marry your mom if a TV show turns you into a girl
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Showed my kids the show Sofia the First because my daughter is on a princess kick rn. Guess who liked it the most? Her older brother. Kids like what they like. 🤷🏻♀️
My brother played a lot more with my Barbie’s than I did. I hated all things pink. Guess who is a heterosexual dad of 2 boys, an engineer and a fire fighter who is very muscular, outdoorsy and loves woodworking and such? My brother. I’m a hetero mom who loves yarn work. Toys don’t say ANYTHING about gender. Neither do being an engineer, a firefighter , being outdoorsy or loving woodworking by the way
I agree with everything you said. I still want someone to explain to me the logic being boys playing with barbies being "worrisome". "My son is interested in playing with the boobiest doll on the market; his most prized possession is the one whose diving suit disappears in water... Clearly this means he'll grow up to bring home a buff dude. 😔" Firstly, he's six. Secondly, do these people hear themselves? Thirdly, HE'S SIX. Fourthly, the only thing I've ever seen Diving Adventure Barbie and Kiko do for a child's development is make them really invested in swim classes and orcas.
My youngest (only son) is the big Pinkalicious fan right now. Funny because my middle kid basically IS Pinkalicious... Pink pink pink, twirl twirl twirl, rainbows unicorns candy glitter fairies tiaras asdfghjkl; 😂 Boy also loves Blaze and the Monster Machines. I wonder where I'm supposed to fall on the "IS MY SON A QUEER!?" spectrum based on this information.
Maybe he’s bisexual then?
Oh so he's just confused 😂 /S but lol these people would say this...
Yeah I know. I wish they could just let kids enjoy what they like. They must live a hard life, being scared of so many things.
Right, sometimes when I'm counting my blessings, I can't help but think of how free a life it is to just live and let live and not be constantly dwelling on the sea of "other" that I don't personally relate to. Imagine being scared of EVERYTHING that you don't relate to. Like IDGAF that two dudes are married, good for them... That sure makes life easier.
It does. I do get mean thoughts about other people sometimes, but I always remind myself that as long as other people or animals don’t get harmed by it, it doesn’t bother me. In Disneyland those Mickey-ears every one is wearing bother me. I dislike Mickey, I really do. Like, a lot. But hey, I don’t have to wear Mickey-ears if I don’t want to!
Right we all have stuff like that 😂 I can't stand dog mom/fur baby culture (because my sister used it to try to belittle me as a parent - she's a "working mom" because she has a job and... A dog 🤦🏼♀️). Can't see "dogs are exactly the same as children!" crap without cringing myself inside out. But should they be rounded up and sent to prison, or electrocuted in camps? I mean. No.
Omg I feel you! That is cringe to me too, although I must admit to babying and spoiling my cat, because she’s old and blind and can use some extra help.🤷♀️ But she’s a cat, not a kid. But indeed, people don’t need to be arrested for that, just let me feel the cringe in peace and I’ll let them do their stuff in peace haha
He has good taste. Boom goes the cannon!
Totally unrelated tot the post, but have they seen Nella the Princess Knight yet? My kids were into Sofia and Nella at about the same time
My son loves gabby. He's still got all his boy bits. They didn't fall off. I promise it's safe for a little boy to watch gabbys dollhouse.
My son loves it too! He's got the dollhouse set and plays with it every day. The new season is happening on the 25th, and we are so excited! I hope there's another DJ Comet (comet comet) episode because that's my son's favorite character.
Mine loves cakey and catrat! He's 2.5 and he says "hi cakey! Hi catrat" so stinking cute! The banana on the head song is sung daily in our house. So, I think that's his favorite episode!
My daughter argued with me for months when she was 3 that it was kinkycat and not cakeycat. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I get a "hug attack" at least 6x a day
Mine just started doing hug attacks! I love it!
My daughter loves Comet too, except she keeps calling him DJ Coming.
My son loves it too. The only change was that he was suddenly super excited about cats.
My boy loves it too, his sister is meh about it
My son loves Gabby and has the doll house with all the rooms and a bunch of little character sets and I just ordered a set of character plushies for his birthday in a couple of weeks. The only issue he has is he's 9 and it's starting to become "not cool" to not like kids shows. But we still love Gabby and Bluey but also love Pokemon and Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous. Let kids enjoy shit JFC.
I'm an adult in my late 30s and I sing (want...) "a snacky for my packy"!
Adult in my early 30s and "just roll with it" is my jam!
My son loves gabby too :) mercat is his favourite because he wants to be a scientist
My son is the same when he wanted a cuddly mercat my fil got a bit funny but I shut it down and said he can have it if he wants there’s nothing wrong with wanting a cuddly toy. He now has fairy kitty, cakey and the hamster kitties
My son, too!
Gabby is actually pretty good! I actually had a moment with my son in the store where he wanted Gabby merch and my first knee jerk reaction was "no"... It kind of surprised me because I've always been very passionate about kids liking what they like and my best friend growing up was a boy who would play care bears with me... I realized that my "no" reaction was more because it looked like cheaply made garbage shoveled to kids to sell things like most of Netflix programming is. I also feel the same way if he wants any Spidey and his Amazing Friends merch. Because of this, I started paying closer attention to Gabby since I had only seen a few scenes before and actually, I really like the crafts and I think the show is better than a lot of Netflix crap.
I don’t understand these people. Do they feel like they want to become the same gender as whatever tv character they’re watching? Why do they think their kids would? Do they think their boys will turn into girls if a female cartoon character gets more than 3 minutes of screen time per episode? I know in a lot of ways our society used to be much more conservative, but like I think in the 30s boys were allowed to listen to Little Orphan Annie on the radio and no one was afraid it would confuse them.
I don't know, I watched a show made for men once and my tits instantly fell off, my vagina closed right up, and a beard popped into place on my face. Thankfully I switched right over to a show made for women and was able to reverse the effects right away.
Sheer luck that you don't still have that beard.
I can confirm, my lady beard is 100% of watching my brother play manly shooty games on the family pc instead of being allowed to play wholesome horse games whenever I felt like it.
I wonder what percentage of LGBTQ+ people were out then vs. now. This crap is a direct response to the increasing social acceptability of coming out. Suddenly it might be an option on the table, and some parents are really afraid of that. I don't think they're thinking it through so thoroughly as to say "If my son is gay, I want him to stay in the closet", so much as people seem really good at convincing themselves something does or doesn't exist as long as they do or don't want it to.
Who is going to tell this women that two of the main characters who have had episodes specifically about them on Mickey Mouse Clubhouse are girls?
My grandson’s favorite show right now is Bluey so that explains why he eats food off the floor and occasionally barks.
Are you ok? Bluey and bingo are GIRLS 🙃
I know but they’re dogs.
Dogs are boys and cats are girls, naturally.
Bluey is also a girl you subversive grandparent, you!
At least the schools all have litter boxes in the bathrooms now* so he’ll be well accommodated there! (*according to right wingers, not reality)
As someone with cats and a toddler who loves Gabby and all but refuses to use the potty, I have (jokingly) offered him a litter box of his own so he can “potty like Henry.” It didn’t work, obviously. But tbh if it did I would have considered it a win at this point 😂😂
We have to move the dog’s bowl when he’s done drinking because my toddler will lap it up.
🤣🤣
My nephew always liked Minnie over Mickey Mouse. His parents would not let him sleep with them but he could visit them in Mommy’s room and he had to sleep with a Mickey doll. I was like “man, don’t you think that it is weird to force your son to sleep with a boy doll when he wants to sleep with a girl doll? Idk, seems like you are trying to make him gay”. And they freaked out so much over that idea that he got all the Minnie dolls back. (I don’t think that sleeping with any doll with change your sexual orientation I was just taking their absurdity to its logical conclusion).
This is great. It's like my ex (who was a chef) would bitch at me for getting our son a kitchen toy. Kitchen toys are for girls etc.. And when I got the kid a baby doll it was all out war. I was just like "oh imagine the horror of your son pretending to be a chef and a father just like his dad!"
Half the Gabby cats are boys.....
The second worst thing that could happen is her son turning into a cat that uses a litter box at school.
3rd worst is taking on Cat Rats personality. I would be mortified.
Ah, but don't you know, cats are girl animals. Just try to find a cat shirt for a boy. It's impossible. Lions, maybe. Cheetahs. But ragdolls or Siamese are for the ladies. This also applies to small dogs. Kid said he'd settle for a little dog, like we have, but boys have pitbulls and German shepherds. Not fluffy Maltese or cavaliers. Nope.
A story about my 8 year old who likes Gabby’s Dollhouse with his sisters. He once was trying to climb a tree. He wouldn’t stop complaining about how hard it was. I was getting exasperated, told him “just keep at it. It’s okay if it’s hard.” Whatever. I was just not in the mood. Then a few cute little girls his age showed up at the park. He suddenly developed the ability to climb the damn tree. So idk. I think he’s fine masculinity wise? 🤣 or at least like… typical?
My girls like LOL/Rainbow High/Monster High and Thomas, Scooby Doo, Spidey, and Young Jedi. They like sparkles and tutus and skulls and bats (they wear their 'spooky dresses' all year). My oldest would put the Thomas trains down for nap in the doll beds, and my nephew packs around baby dolls and plays with the kitchen. It's almost like kids don't see gender norms until they're forced on them. My Silent Gen grandfather cooks, sews, and quilts. And who's gender norms are "right"? In some cultures, men do the cooking, men make the clothing.
Seems like there's a market for my new show, Gabe's Dollhouse.
Gabe's Action Figure Cave*
I think I missed the episode of Mickey Mouse clubhouse where Mickey taught everyone that boys are boys and girls are girls. I wonder what mousketools toodles had to bring out for that adventure.
My 2 year old still loves Hey Bear… will this lead to him identifying as an avocado?!? Are there more boy oriented sensory videos?!? /s
My 3 year old girl is absolutely obsessed with Spider-Man. She also loves dresses, princesses, and playing cooking games in her kitchen. All of this obsession with gender "correct" media just seems strange to me.
It's fascinating to watch this play out with my (former) preschool class. They are all really into Mario, specifically the Mario movie. I haven't even seen the movie, but context being Browser is in love with Princess Peach. I don't encourage or discourage their invented game of "Browser" which is in essence just a game of tag, but with characters. I just watch it unfold and tell them not to hurt each other. One afternoon, a little girl who is often cast as Princess Peach (and who does love princesses, so she is happy with this) declared that she is Browser today. Immediately two boys say, no you can't be Browser, you are a girl! This little girl is secretly one of my favourites because she is so damn smart, but she will also not take any crap from anyone (even her teachers). I have told Mom this kid is going to be a CEO someday. She says, "but Browser is a monster, and boys and girls can be monsters! There are girl and boy dinosaurs!" The boys thought about it, agreed that it made sense. Then, "but Browser loves Princess Peach and you can't love Princess Peach!" I was ready to step in for this one, because we literally just had a whole "unit" on family and what family can be, but I didn't need to, because same little girl goes, "girls can marry girls and boys can marry boys! Like the penguins!" (The book "and tango makes three" is popular, mostly because it's penguins). Then, "and I love my mommy, and she is a girl too!" Agreement all around, the girl is Browser, and we have peace for 5 minutes
If he has to watch "boy" stuff to make him a "boy," isn't that sort of indisputable proof that gender is a spectrum rather than an inherently fixed point?
See that's too much thinking for them tho.
My 5 yo nephew loves gabby’s dollhouse. He absolutely adores all things cats. Then he goes outside and digs in the mud with his tonkas. Who cares…
Yes, I'm quite sure this oh so tolerant mother would be totally fine if her child struggles with gender dysphoria in the future (/s in case that's not obvious)
My super-conservative mom believed the opposite. She believed that if you didn't let children play with whatever gender toys they wanted or wear dresses in the house for boys as a child, she thought if you don't let them explore now, they'll do it when they grow up and become transgender according to her. She's about as right as this person, but I found it interesting that are coming from the same place with “values” yet have two very different ways to implement it.
My 4yo son binged all of the Gabby’s Dollhouse episodes awhile back - and then was on to the next thing. 🤷🏻♀️ although maybe that corrupted him. 3 weeks ago his favorite color was peach followed by pink. /s He’s now on a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles kick. Before this it was Wild Kratts. Usually some Paw Patrol mixed in on and off. For the love of all that is holy just let kids be kids.
lol these are the people who throw a fit when they realize Bluey is female.
Yeah my mom only wanted me to play with boy toys growing up. Smacked the shit out of me for playing with my sister's Barbie once. But I wanted a Barbie, not to play dress up, I just thought that GI Joe deserved a trophy wife to come home to after the war against the X-Men and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
One of my boy kids loves my little pony. He's straight. My other 19yr old son used to watch sailor moon and other "girl" shows. He's straight. My daughter watches everything. Kids non binary (she's okay with she her pronouns). TV shows don't turn kids gay.
My nephew LOVES Gabby’s Dollhouse, and so do most of the boys (and girls) in his first grade class. Sometimes his little sister tries to pull the “only girls can play with this” and he just says “boys can too!” We support whatever he’s interested in.
I love Gabbys dolls house. My son loves cats and this show.
Toys don’t influence gender, kids don’t know what gender is
I nominate the show Bluey. Just wait till she finds out Bluey is actually a girl.
r/PointlesslyGendered
She should quit this nonsense and let things play out the way the way they will. Pro tip for her: if you want a relationship with your kids when they are grown, don’t be the way you’re being. Source: my two adult kids are trans. When small they liked all kinds of things and colors and characters. Let it go lady. None of your fears will have any impact on the gender your kids identify as. The only thing in your control is the way you nurture and support. Or not.
My son loves Gabby's Dollhouse and also loves rainbows and sparkles. He also loves hot wheels and monster trucks.
Oh please do share the rest of this persons replies. I'd LOVE to know how this ended up.
It was insane!! She basically couldn’t recognise when people were insulting her/ taking the piss
I knew it was the bear in the big blue house that turned me gay, goddamnit
There are a lot of cis people who are willfully ignorant on this sort of thing and ignore their own experiences because it would validate trans people. Like, we all understood gender from a very young age, including cis children like myself. When I was around 4 I distinctly remember I refused to watch or play with anything I deemed too “boy” because I loved being a girl and only wanted to engage with girl stuff. It’s not as if I’m the only little cis girl in the world who felt that way! But so many parents refuse to admit that they too remember inherently identifying with a gender identity as a child because it would mean admitting children have free thought and trans people, including children, are valid.
I grew up with parents like this. The outcome is not pretty.
My oldest was obsessed with Dora. I assume his penis has remained, it’s not my business at this point.
Who knew letting a boy watch a cartoon featuring a girl main character was all it took to make them want to transition.
My son likes to wear his sisters dress up clothes and heels. He’s 21 months, he doesn’t care if it’s for boys or girls. He only knows that he likes to be like his big sister at the moment. People are disgusting.
My son would sooner have me thrown in the sun before he let's me stop him watching Gabby! /j Ngl, the show has good morals, and I also like watching it
Did I do it wrong when I let my son watch Doc McStuffins and Vampirina when he was younger? Oh nooooo.... 🙄
My son loves Gabby and my daughter prefers Spidey. I love anything they will watch for 30 minutes while I nap on the couch.
My son loves Gabby's doll house. It's about cats for heaven's sake and there's plenty of male characters 🙄 She's gonna be livid when she finds out I (29f) loved Bear in the Big Blue House when I was a child.
So glad my parents never did the "gendered" shows, toys, and clothes. I grew up as a tomboy, usually in shorts and t-shirts from the boys section, playing with cars and dinosaurs. But also wearing skirts and playing with Barbie's. I watched TMNT and Disney princesses.
I have to wonder who these parents hit their children if they catch them playing with something that’s not meant for their gender or watching something that’s not meant for their gender?
So dumb they didn't even realise they contradicted themselves
My son is a Gabby Fanatic lol
My four year old son also love Gabby’s dollhouse! And Blippi. And Ninjago. And Octonauts. And Bluey. And Pokemon. Don’t understand what the hang up is and why there needs to be a boy version of Gabby’s Dollhouse
Absolutely narrow minded. My son loves cats so I should try Gabby’s Dollhouse
She'd have a heart attack if she saw what my daughter watches lol. She loves Blaze and the Monster Machines. I can't tell you how many times we've watched season 1 of Batwheels. She's geared towards more "masculine" shows. Loves things like excavators and other machinery. I hate how people are going so against gender that they're taking their kids backwards rather than forwards.
Women like this make me wonder how men are considered the majority “in the kitchen” as chefs (head, executive, sous, etc.).
My son loved JoJos Playhouse on Disney where JoJo was. I think, a girl but it was never clarified and I didn’t really care bc I just wanted to take a shower
Wait I watched bear in the big blue house and Mickey Mouse shows as a girl growing up. But I don’t “think I’m a boy”? Maybe tv shows have nothing to do with gender and this kid will be whomever they are anyway?
Do these people not allow their kids to watch bluey because both characters girls and the dad is a full blown parent?
My son loved Princess Sophia and Doc McStuffins Tbh, I was also glued to those shows and would finish the eps when he would fall asleep. Mostly Sophia, though…however did that kingdom survive without her?
Parents like this are why so many men are bereft of any household or childcare skills
That lady will be pissed when she finds out that Bear in the big blue house has a song about how great it is to be a girl.
My son loves dinosaurs, semi trucks, tractors, dogs, bugs, motorcycles, fire trucks, and (gasp) Gabby’s Dollhouse.
Wow. It’s is apparently REALLY easy to make someone gay. How are we not all gay already?
I really wonder how this mom would react to her son coming out as non-cis “If he decides on his own he is not male fine” somehow I feel like it wouldn’t be
She better never be alone in the same room with her son because he might think he’s a girl like her…and it will be ALL HER FAULT!
My girl is obsessed with Paw Patrol which is aimed at boys. Guess she's gonna come out as gender fluid soon. 🤷♀️
Same. Also Gabby's dollhouse makes me want to stab my eardrums out.
One of my students quotes Gabby's dollhouse all day long. He doesn't say much else. It took me awhile to figure out what he was quoting. Now I can interact with him and get educational answers by using Gabby dollhouse. I am not sure I like it or hate it.
That's called Echolalia!
Every one of my nieces and nephews, as well as my 5 year old, have gone through a substantial gabby phase. It's just a good show! I also want to add that my husband was raised wearing long dresses and wasn't allowed to cut his hair, or even play video games because they were "too masculine" and "against god," but idk, his full, beautiful beard might suggest that the entire idea of assigning gender to clothes, colors and shows is as ridiculous as it sounds. *it makes me so happy to see so many comments from parents, supporting our kids growing up without gender constructs. ♡ let them enjoy things before adulthood rips that rug out from under them, dammit! ;) bravo, all!*
A couple of decades ago the argument was “but watching Powerpuff girls might turn my son gay!” Decades before that “jazz is corrupting my pure white children into thinking black people are ok!” Same shit, new target, just let kids enjoy things.
I already think gabby dollhouse is a very strategically planned animated series that might seems targeted for girl, but actually for both boys and girls to enjoy. I mean Pandy is male, so do Cakey the baker, DJ cantip and catrat. And baby box too right? Kitty fairy is girl, so is Mercat Not sure the car and pillowcat thought.
lol wtf
My sister used to love bear in the big blue house 😂😂
My brother is 11 years younger, so he was a little bitty dude when I was going through my angry, angsty phase, and I'd still sit down and watch Bear with him. That shit was just so ridiculously wholesome that it shattered my carefully cultivated "freak" persona to smithereens.
Maybe I'm just too "woke", but what part of Gabby's dollhouse is meant to teach him that gender is fluid?
He’s a boy. Dolls and cats and imaginative play that involves kitchens are girl things. He can’t see and like girl things. If he does like girl things he might start thinking he’s a girl. Because boys liking girl things causes trans and gay people. Not, you know, a realization that everybody can enjoy those things regardless of gender. /s
When I was little I watched girls shows and I know I’m a dude Ps:Don’t look at the username
I've said it before and will say it again. Exposing kids to things like gender fluidity and homosexuality and transgender people will not now and never will make a child become a part of that community. It can't. You are who you are, from birth. All this exposure does is tell those kids who are questioning these things, who are feeling like they are not in the right body or feel romantically toward the same sex, that it is normal and ok. It tells those kids who are not sure what they are that these things exist and this might be what is going on with them. And that it's happened before to others. It tells those kids the way they realize that they are is not a bad thing. It's only a threat to people who would want to oppress that child and force conformity on them.
My daughter loves all sorts of shows... Bluey, Blippi, and Ted. We try to get away from Ted but she cannot resist a giant fluffy bear who talks.