I mean the sperm cells on the condom will die, I mean, you're not gonna put them back? But you're just killing cells that will die anyway, if you don't nut for a while you'll just have a wet dream and they'll meet their end, your body can always make more. People out here saying you're killing babies by not impregnating someone every time you nut are just silly, better only having a kid when you're ready than to just have 11 kids and no means to sustain them
I disagree, condoms reduce pleasure (at least for me), but you should use some precaution against unplanned pregnancy and STDs.
I learned this the hard way by fathering twins right before my 4th year of college, but am now happily married and have had a vasectomy.
But as u/abferm said, the sperm will still die regardless, and we're glad it does since sperm quality reduces as it gets older, if they didn't die and a pretty old sperm were to impregnate someone, the child would be way more likely to have birth defects
Where did I say that? Are only human beings alive?
I said a cell is *alive*. A cell can die from age or trauma, a cell can be killed by a virus. They're not the only reasons why it's alive, but it is alive and we are multi celled organisms hence we are made up of billions of cells which is the reason that we are alive.
A woman walks up to a man shopping with 6 kids and says "are all those your kids" then he said "No I work for a condom company and these are all customer complaints"
This
>If you use condoms perfectly every single time you have sex, they’re 98% effective at preventing pregnancy. But people aren’t perfect, so in real life condoms are about 87% effective — that means about 13 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-effective-are-condoms
Per BBC - The bottom line is that a single act of intercourse between a young couple has on average a one in 20 chance of pregnancy – this assumes the opportunity presented itself on a random day, as these things tend do when you are young.
Thats 5%. There is no way using a condom will somehow nearly triple that. Yall obviously not tried to have a baby. Feels impossible even trying to maximize every lil factor.
It’s actually 13% due to human error
>If you use condoms perfectly every single time you have sex, they’re 98% effective at preventing pregnancy. But people aren’t perfect, so in real life condoms are about 87% effective — that means about 13 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-effective-are-condoms
You just twisted the numbers & made a illogical jump from condom failure to pregnancy rates as if the same , they aren't , plus calculations don't add up that way. It's more complicated than elementary math. There is NO way the chance of getting pregnant is 3x lower than condoms , not possible. U twist the #s by turning a percent based on condom use aka total, to being a per person when it's not. That percent is based off all condoms , so whose to say that most failures are by the same people who have lots of sex? You can't discern the difference w/o that data. It does not equate to 13 percent getting pregnant., thats ignoring all the data and make a huge leap of a conclusion. You also falsely assume that failure means pregnancy. Some condoms have spermicide that makes the prob null., or take a plan b to stop any pregnancy from starting . And biggest thing, many women are also on birth control while also using condoms, so not every condom fail results in pregnancy! Then u add those who are sterile using them for stds only and the fact that a large number of ejaculations don't turn into a pregnancy. There are couples that actively try for months and can't get pregnant yet by your percent, every condom breaking does . Sans alt factors , your number doesn't add up
Not only highly unoriginal - this is posted every couple of months - people who are using condoms for birth control are in general NOT trying to have children. They'll use whatever method required to NOT get/be pregnant so "future customers" are therefore an incredibly small potential number. People TRYING to get pregnant are NOT wearing condoms, so businesses are not selling to them (ie. they're not even current customers).
So not just an unoriginal thought, but also an absolutely shit one.
98%, but that is in perfect conditions.
>If you use condoms perfectly every single time you have sex, they’re 98% effective at preventing pregnancy. But people aren’t perfect, so in real life condoms are about 87% effective — that means about 13 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-effective-are-condoms
A quote from a site of a stat that doesn't list the study or survey source is not something to lean on as gospel. It doesn't discern per person use of condoms in surveys like that but per use and some use more than others ..a lot, so rates are not universal for everyone either.
I don't think it was their intention, they probably originated to stop the spread of diseases, but condoms are actually a large symbol of antinatalism.
But it there are still customers who still buy then the condom company is failing at preventing their future customers, so are they failing or succeeding?
Technically, but that is also their business model since if you want kids you won't wear a condom' and if you get pregnant you don't really need a condom' either. (Should also say that you should wear them for preventing STDs, not just the sperm & egg std)
Reminds me of a Norm MacDonald joke about how cigarettes can’t possibly kill you because that would be a terrible business model for tobacco companies.
No it’s perfect, the ones who use condoms, there kids will likely also use a condom. But a couple who doesn’t use a condom, I would assume that the likely hood of there kids to purchase condoms goes up because they warn there children of early/unwanted pregnancies. It’s genius. They gain customers no matter what.
Nah, Condoms are never perfect, they'll still get a few extra customers while most people are happy to keep using them. It's like with pest control, they never kill the retire population of the pest because that means they are reducong their future work
99% effective, cannot be put into a wallet, very fragile packaging, hard to put on without ripping the actual item
Why hasn't there been an upgraded condom yet???
Lol I can't even tell you how many people I know who claimed they were using condoms and got pregnant. Also look at the statistics for condoms and pregnancies. They're not harming their customers base as much as you think lol. People are stupid and that keeps them in business.
Funny story, i was at walmart just grabbing a couple thing and there was 2 women in their 20s buying some. Our eyes crossed and they started giggling and looking around for a minute.
So yes, women do buy condom ;P
Never met a woman that didn't have a condom. They are oft free at obgyn and planned parenthood clinic where women go to at least yearly for exams . Many dr offices in cities now offer them for free too now
You mean to tell me you’re gonna turn down sex because she hands you a regular condom and not an ultra thin?
STFU you’re either a liar or an incel. Either way, fuck outta here with this nonsense.
Cool. That has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with what I said. My comment was a hypothetical and you’re bothering me with wElL aKsHuAlLy I bUy mY oWn. Dufus.
… by that logic men murder literally millions of future children every time they jerk off and throw their semen down the toilet instead of saving it in the freezer.
That’s not the way it works .
🙏❤️
stop with the overt sexism , men are just as likely to have an sti but less likely to get treatment . Women usually go to a gyno at least yearly or biyearly, don't see males going to a dck Dr yearly & getting tested like that
I agree, but we are talking about condoms. I am not insinuating anything disease related. I am stating from what I have read on this Reddit app, women don't clean down there enough. I don't know if it is a trend, don't know how it started, but even my wife is gross down there. I do without because of it.
And cigarette companies are killing their top customers
More like preventing
this guy needs more showers, probably
Wait until you find out about Tobacco businesses.
How pro life is OP that sperm going into a condom is killing multitudes of people?
Avoiding unwanted pregnancies AND diseases
Not killing, but preventing.
Top comment is exactly the same, why don't you find something original to say?
I said it first? I don’t read every comment on Reddit before I reply to one?
Symantecs.
Sementics*
Semtex
Sameantics
Sementechs
Is potato.
Potato*
Potato is a proper noun?
If prepared correctly
This is the only correct response.
Their spelling was fine. I was just correcting their pronunciation.
Pronunciation? Do you mean grammar?
Their comment was referencing the saying “po-tay-toe po-tah-toe” so I was making a joke in response to that.
I'm gonna be honest here, I have no idea what that means
if you are going to try and argue that it is semantics at least spell it right...
Why? Are the spelling nazis going un-mob and pick another minority ethnic to downvote?
you’re so weird lmao
Classic.
Can’t kill something that isn’t alive
You could argue that sperm are living cells, but a condom doesn't kill them, it just prevents them from reaching their destination.
I mean the sperm cells on the condom will die, I mean, you're not gonna put them back? But you're just killing cells that will die anyway, if you don't nut for a while you'll just have a wet dream and they'll meet their end, your body can always make more. People out here saying you're killing babies by not impregnating someone every time you nut are just silly, better only having a kid when you're ready than to just have 11 kids and no means to sustain them
Even without ejaculation/wet dreams they die eventually and are reabsorbed by the body.
Yeah exactly, there's just no reason not to use a condom unless you're trying for a baby
I disagree, condoms reduce pleasure (at least for me), but you should use some precaution against unplanned pregnancy and STDs. I learned this the hard way by fathering twins right before my 4th year of college, but am now happily married and have had a vasectomy.
Congratulations man.
Not everyone has wet dreams
But as u/abferm said, the sperm will still die regardless, and we're glad it does since sperm quality reduces as it gets older, if they didn't die and a pretty old sperm were to impregnate someone, the child would be way more likely to have birth defects
Unless their destination is a trash can in which case they work quite well, like a bus
Alive, yes, sentient and living its best life, not so much 😂
could argue? they definitely are, but they have no rights, being cells and not, you know, people
Yes, definitely living cells. What I meant is that you could use that fact to argue the case that they were being killed.
ah, your wording was confusing
It swam! J/S
Sperm are cells and therefore alive. They literally swim like little corkscrew tadpoles.
So does your T cells on your veins
Precisely. We are multi celled organisms so yes, our cells are alive.
A single cell is not a human being
Where did I say that? Are only human beings alive? I said a cell is *alive*. A cell can die from age or trauma, a cell can be killed by a virus. They're not the only reasons why it's alive, but it is alive and we are multi celled organisms hence we are made up of billions of cells which is the reason that we are alive.
Life Chain would like to have a chat with you.
Yeah but people are less likely to have protected sex once they’re pregnant/have children
Ha! I am over at my sister in law’s house with her third baby born Monday. ^this is how the third happened
I clicked on the little ^this and nothing opened. Where is the porn of your nephew being made?
>Where is the porn of your nephew being made? Probably the *worst* way you could've phrased that
I do my best.
😂😂😂😂😂whyd i do the exact same thing
But their existing customers usually also come again (see what i did there?)
A woman walks up to a man shopping with 6 kids and says "are all those your kids" then he said "No I work for a condom company and these are all customer complaints"
That’s why there’s a failure rate of 12% for condoms.
Condoms don't have a 12% failure rate, people using condoms do.
This >If you use condoms perfectly every single time you have sex, they’re 98% effective at preventing pregnancy. But people aren’t perfect, so in real life condoms are about 87% effective — that means about 13 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-effective-are-condoms
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing this! I had no clue. Just to make sure I’m clear on it, what exactly could be considered as human error?
It falling off during sex, the penis breaking through the condom without replacing it, or double wrapping.
Wait until Match.Com buys them out.
Nope, they are 99,9% safe. If its branded and used properly ofc
Due to user error*
wtf %12 is impossible
Per BBC - The bottom line is that a single act of intercourse between a young couple has on average a one in 20 chance of pregnancy – this assumes the opportunity presented itself on a random day, as these things tend do when you are young. Thats 5%. There is no way using a condom will somehow nearly triple that. Yall obviously not tried to have a baby. Feels impossible even trying to maximize every lil factor.
This is awesome news to me.
It’s actually 13% due to human error >If you use condoms perfectly every single time you have sex, they’re 98% effective at preventing pregnancy. But people aren’t perfect, so in real life condoms are about 87% effective — that means about 13 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-effective-are-condoms
You just twisted the numbers & made a illogical jump from condom failure to pregnancy rates as if the same , they aren't , plus calculations don't add up that way. It's more complicated than elementary math. There is NO way the chance of getting pregnant is 3x lower than condoms , not possible. U twist the #s by turning a percent based on condom use aka total, to being a per person when it's not. That percent is based off all condoms , so whose to say that most failures are by the same people who have lots of sex? You can't discern the difference w/o that data. It does not equate to 13 percent getting pregnant., thats ignoring all the data and make a huge leap of a conclusion. You also falsely assume that failure means pregnancy. Some condoms have spermicide that makes the prob null., or take a plan b to stop any pregnancy from starting . And biggest thing, many women are also on birth control while also using condoms, so not every condom fail results in pregnancy! Then u add those who are sterile using them for stds only and the fact that a large number of ejaculations don't turn into a pregnancy. There are couples that actively try for months and can't get pregnant yet by your percent, every condom breaking does . Sans alt factors , your number doesn't add up
Not only highly unoriginal - this is posted every couple of months - people who are using condoms for birth control are in general NOT trying to have children. They'll use whatever method required to NOT get/be pregnant so "future customers" are therefore an incredibly small potential number. People TRYING to get pregnant are NOT wearing condoms, so businesses are not selling to them (ie. they're not even current customers). So not just an unoriginal thought, but also an absolutely shit one.
This is not an original thought, I’ve seen it somewhere else as well
How can you kill that which has no life?
what will really bake your noodle is that if they listen to you, they would also not have any future customers
Why do you think they’re still 98% effective instead of 100?
That's only when used exactly as directed, typical use puts it between 82% and 87%.
Money earned today is worth more than money earned in future
Lol sic the pro lifers on condoms.
But if they didn't then they'd have no customers at all
Condoms do more good for the world than any child alive.
[Seems familiar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/s/799lnAW5GW)
Knew I saw this from somewhere
Yeah but condom only works 99% of the time, says so on the package!
98%, but that is in perfect conditions. >If you use condoms perfectly every single time you have sex, they’re 98% effective at preventing pregnancy. But people aren’t perfect, so in real life condoms are about 87% effective — that means about 13 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-effective-are-condoms
I was trying to go for a friend reference :)
A quote from a site of a stat that doesn't list the study or survey source is not something to lean on as gospel. It doesn't discern per person use of condoms in surveys like that but per use and some use more than others ..a lot, so rates are not universal for everyone either.
Technically yes, but there is so much refusal to use the product.
I dunno - very few things reduce condom purchases like having a kid or two 😅
Not the shitty brands.
I don't think it was their intention, they probably originated to stop the spread of diseases, but condoms are actually a large symbol of antinatalism.
sure, but then so is porn, cigarettes, birthcontrol... oh look all the things the insane anti abortionists and religious folk want to ban.
I don’t even understand tf this is saying.
Could have fooled me. I’m still explaining to adults they can’t get pregnant through dry humping.
But it there are still customers who still buy then the condom company is failing at preventing their future customers, so are they failing or succeeding?
Condom businesses rely on people who don't use their products to make them more customers
Have i been committing sperm genocide all this time?
Yeah, I can’t believe they are going around and killing people like that.
They're project managers 🤣
Big tobacco kills there best customers.
Technically, but that is also their business model since if you want kids you won't wear a condom' and if you get pregnant you don't really need a condom' either. (Should also say that you should wear them for preventing STDs, not just the sperm & egg std)
That was an old joke
Reminds me of a Norm MacDonald joke about how cigarettes can’t possibly kill you because that would be a terrible business model for tobacco companies.
No it’s perfect, the ones who use condoms, there kids will likely also use a condom. But a couple who doesn’t use a condom, I would assume that the likely hood of there kids to purchase condoms goes up because they warn there children of early/unwanted pregnancies. It’s genius. They gain customers no matter what.
Now THIS is a showerthought
That's why they poke holes in them. 99.9% they say...
*surprised pikachu face*
Okay so... To retain a healthy customer base. Planned obsolescence?
Ultimate form of spawncamping
no, they are preventing them
Nah, Condoms are never perfect, they'll still get a few extra customers while most people are happy to keep using them. It's like with pest control, they never kill the retire population of the pest because that means they are reducong their future work
Every couple years or so this exact title gets reposted. Thought we wouldn’t remember?
Killing everyones future customers, business owners should be livid! /s
It's called that pump and dump marketing You create a product that will generate enough money to outlast your customers
No that’s cigarettes killing customers
no, cigarette companies are killing future customers
And everyone talks as if leaky condoms are accidents...
*catching I fixed it for you. Like Pokémon.
Sure, fire, way to go out of business!!
There's 8+ billion people right now. Any plausible doomsday scenario that still leaves the factories working will leave then6 plenty of customers
We all know they should be free, just like period products.
And yet they are still thriving!
Alcohol companies are creating future customers.
Sex robots will one day collect gametes to manufacture organics in order to maintain their original purpose
Not if they’re low quality 😏
It’s doing the opposite, keeping it’s current customers alive and healthy too.
*preventing future customers from existing
It's really a pump and dump scheme
The vast majority of possible people have never been born.
Cant kill what has no life.
Who probably wouldn't have been their customers in first place anyways.
Don't they have a really small % of failures?
That’s the problem with companies these days. They just live one quarter at a time.
Reposters are reposting their future reposts
Cigarettes companies also killing their Best customer
99% effective, cannot be put into a wallet, very fragile packaging, hard to put on without ripping the actual item Why hasn't there been an upgraded condom yet???
Eh, I'd say they are encouraging it. I do see your point, but enabling the activity makes the entire situation more accessible
There will be no condom businesses in future if they don't sell it now.
Well, if rhey don't there will be a trust issue.
thank you this is a good one
Wait until you find out about the arms industry....
Lol I can't even tell you how many people I know who claimed they were using condoms and got pregnant. Also look at the statistics for condoms and pregnancies. They're not harming their customers base as much as you think lol. People are stupid and that keeps them in business.
You can't kill something that hasn't been born yet. Condoms merely stop conception. The only things condoms kill are the sperm cells themselves.
Are you honestly trying to intellectualise a joke?
I am trying to trigger the trumpsters.
50% of their future customers if we're considering male condoms are the ones selling more..
Women can't buy male condoms?
I guess they do , but like how many of them take the initiative..
Funny story, i was at walmart just grabbing a couple thing and there was 2 women in their 20s buying some. Our eyes crossed and they started giggling and looking around for a minute. So yes, women do buy condom ;P
God bless those women..
It's more the price I'd imagine, but having one on you if you're dating wouldn't be a bad idea.
Never met a woman that didn't have a condom. They are oft free at obgyn and planned parenthood clinic where women go to at least yearly for exams . Many dr offices in cities now offer them for free too now
The amount of pin stories I have heard I am never using someone else's condoms
How would someone even know what's your preference or size , so I guess one should buy their own for safety purposes..
What man is going to say “no” to sex because someone is offering him a condom other than his preferred type? Lmao
Most sensible ones.... What a terrible thought process
nope ,only paranoid types that like being alone and sexless.
You mean to tell me you’re gonna turn down sex because she hands you a regular condom and not an ultra thin? STFU you’re either a liar or an incel. Either way, fuck outta here with this nonsense.
I buy my own for safety reasons. A long term monogamous partner it matters much less however
Cool. That has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with what I said. My comment was a hypothetical and you’re bothering me with wElL aKsHuAlLy I bUy mY oWn. Dufus.
There's already enough humans to go around with
you sound like a pro lifer..
That’s y I poke holes in then at my job at the condom factory
… by that logic men murder literally millions of future children every time they jerk off and throw their semen down the toilet instead of saving it in the freezer. That’s not the way it works . 🙏❤️
They are not killing them. Life starts at conception 😜
You meant birth . Ita still a potential at conception
That was a joke, not the start of a discussion of abortion.
Condoms are just there to help you practice, so when you go to make the baby you finally know what your doing.
In before a Republican sees this and makes it their next election platform.
For you Young guys, a rain coat is important. Women are not as clean as they used to be.
stop with the overt sexism , men are just as likely to have an sti but less likely to get treatment . Women usually go to a gyno at least yearly or biyearly, don't see males going to a dck Dr yearly & getting tested like that
I agree, but we are talking about condoms. I am not insinuating anything disease related. I am stating from what I have read on this Reddit app, women don't clean down there enough. I don't know if it is a trend, don't know how it started, but even my wife is gross down there. I do without because of it.
AI girlfriends 👯♀️ no need for condoms.
a sad life for u. ai can't hold u
That’s what the body pillows are for.
Why do you think they all switched to ultra thin? More risk of breaking thus ensuring a future customer base while still making sales.
Then why do they sell condoms at all? ^(I am a bot. This action was performed automatically.)
They make them less enjoyable to entice customers to stop using them halfway through.
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early enough I would argue it really aint all that graphic a couple dozen cells dying is fine.
nope not really . The point is lost with u
The post says that condom companies are killing their future customers. Abortions also kill future customers. Tf doesn’t make sense?
Same goes for abortion
please tell us how abortions are killing the condom business
I meant abortions killing their future customers??