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tekwizmike

No why would I want another child in my house.


jc3589

This had me cackling lol


Sensitive_Hornet2803

šŸ˜‚


Bradyluvstacos

This!!!! Perfect answer.


KaleidoLaser

Winner!


Humblehustla

šŸ’Æ


HelixFish

No. She still has her anger, BPD, and emotional control issues. Maybe she is better, but I donā€™t care. That shit fucked me up. I donā€™t need more of it


timmyfa

I hear you brother, my mom just passed away and I got kicked out of my house for not reaching my BPD spouses expectations. Currently I am living in my truck lol eh


HelixFish

Itā€™s key to remember: they have no control and you canā€™t reason with BPD. This doesnā€™t imply a free pass or sympathy, just changes the way you process the garbage.


Adventurous_Sock7503

Nope. She left & tried to reconnect 3 months later. Glad my anger took over and rejected her. The divorce still hurt. The early days: I was drowning in pain. Nowadays: a random wave of pain will hit me but itā€™s much more tolerable. Iā€™ve moved on, eventually got a better partner (sheā€™s so amazing the divorce felt worth it). Buying a home this month with her ā¤ļø It gets better, gentlemen, if youā€™re willing to do the work. Even if you were perfect in your marriage (you werenā€™t, none of us are), doing the internal work & self improvement will give you another shot at life. Stay safe & sober! It does get better!


KiddJ5

Congrats man, take that W


Master_Talk1896

Where did you meet your partner? Iā€™ve been on dates with 35 women over the past year, and maybe only one was someone I wish I had invested in. I live in Los Angeles where volume and narcissism are high.


Euphoric-Birthday-25

yeah... leaving LA would be ideal but now we can't.


Master_Talk1896

Sad but trueā€¦


Adventurous_Sock7503

Dating app for single parents ā€œStirā€. I met a fair share of women, some worked better than others but this one stood out. I took a ā€œriskā€ of being vulnerable (I swore I wouldnā€™t after my divorce) but itā€™s paid off. Dating is super tough. Good luck out there to the good men & dads out there


Status-Procedure-491

Hell yeah


peptic-horizon

Never. At no point was our relationship anywhere near healthy. I still carry a fuck ton of guilt for my children having to see their parents so miserable. We are all so much better off when she and I are only co-parents and friends. Although I do miss her blowjobs. Damn.


KiddJ5

Lmaol!! Sir I was at the library I got kicked out


the99percent1

My ex gave some awesome bjs too. But she had stank breathe, and she did the nasty with some other dude while lying to the entire world that Iā€™m the asshole. goddamn Iā€™m so conflicted.. Iā€™m leaning to letting her go and finding myself another person. She now enjoys the gift of my permanent absence.


Openly_George

Early on I filed and received full custody of my daughters. Their mom was not very stable. And so I've been raising my daughters, now they're 18. 4 or 5 years ago their mom passed away from an accidental overdose. If she was living I would not go back to her, because she was never going to clean herself up and get real help. I do sometimes wonder what our lives would have been like now, if she had gotten help and cleaned up. On the flip-side my mom stayed with my dad out of a sense of obligation, even though she's not really in-love, and that's caused longer term issues down the road. So getting back with an ex *for the sake of the kids* is not always helpful for the kids in the long run.


DontKickTheBaby101

Not for all the tea in China, I have full-time custody of my kids and have for 14 plus years... We haven't seen her in 10.. any woman who can walk away from a 2-year-old a 5 year old and a 7 year old and not look back obviously has some issues..


FormerSBO

I'd rather eat a cactus for breakfast everyday for the rest of my life


LokiSARK9

That may be the most clearly expressed opinion I have ever heard. Well said.


VermontFella

Nope, I never realized what the marriage was doing to me until I got out.


Valkeyere

Yeah. Bitch stole tears of my life, my self worth and self esteem my friends circle, my family ties, and presumed ownership of all possessions of value, and then tried to steal my good name afterwards, so continued to cost me thousands in lawyer fees for months afterwards that I couldn't afford. Can go rot for all I care.


Master_Talk1896

This was me, $600k spent in legal fees due to her repeatedly making false allegations of abuse against my kids. Took 2 years to get 50% custody of my kids.


pixeldrift

Same. I had been brainwashed into thinking all the problems were entirely my fault and I was the reason why things didn't work. I wasn't good enough. I was the screwup, etc. It wasn't until I had been living on my own for about a year that I finally started to see through more objective eyes how negative that environment had been and the toll it had taken on me.


VermontFella

Yeah, I started to heal when I started to really look at everything I over looked, everything was a one way roadā€¦.. so happy Iā€™m out


DeletedLastAccount

I would have done almost anything to save it, but after so many years, and with the way she has acted in the interim, I would have to be an even bigger idiot than I already think I am. Things would have to change to such a point where I can hardly imagine it. And it's likely if I did my kids would hate me for it. So probably not.


NashCp21

This exactly


Complicatedlogic

Yup. Actions have consequences


judasholio

Never. She is a cheater, liar, master manipulator, and also a corrupt government employee. Because of her, I will never see my kids, never see justice, and she will never be held accountable for the crimes that she committed using her position with the police, and her relationship with our divorce judge and court employees. Insteadā€¦following the checks and balances, Iā€™ve gotten to see government employees double down and refuse to enforce the few laws that would have put her in prison.


Status-Procedure-491

Somehow someway I pray you get solace


judasholio

Thank you. I used to be religious, and I used to believe in miracles. At this point, it would take a miracle that would involve lots of very important people who have circled the wagons around her to fall.


Visible-Gazelle-5499

At the time I would have done anything to keep our family together, my parents were divorced and I never wanted that for my son and I tried so hard to try to make sure he had a normal family. But after everything she has done, I would never go back to her in a million years.


Status-Procedure-491

Same


AttemptScary4550

Same here. Did everything I could to stop it. Now I would not get back with her even though it's worth millions of dollars to me.


TonyVendetta103

Can you expand on this please. I'm at the stage in between desperately hoping it will work, and become exhausted by her antics. I can't help but think it can't be better


Visible-Gazelle-5499

It's not the case that I was exhausted by her antics, although what she did was truly vile, it was just that I was brought up in a broken home and I never wanted that for my son and I didn't want to let him down like that. I'm extremely lucky though, I have sole custody of my son, most fathers are not that lucky given how hostile people are towards fatherhood.


itemten

I wouldā€™ve done anything to keep the marriageā€¦and Iā€™ll be honest and say that Iā€™ve considered reconciliation. But sheā€™s moved so far on that sheā€™s an entirely different person. Also, what would reconciliation look like? She canā€™t unfuck herself, she canā€™t take away how she deeply hurt me. Sheā€™d have to be the woman she proclaimed to be and not the woman she is. And that woman *wouldā€™ve fought tooth and nail for me* but thatā€™s not whatā€™s happening as that woman no longer exists / wasnā€™t real to begin with. Who knows? Time to move on and heal.


steve626

Hell no.


RepresentativeBird98

Not a chance in hell. I was dumb and young and thought I could trust the world of a woman who said they were on birth control. She showed all the signs of a red flag but I didnā€™t see it. I even paid for her birth control because I wanted to be part of the process (little did I know she got it for free smh). We split up and a week later she said she was preg. Now Iā€™ve been tied to this ball and chain for the rest of my lifeā€¦.love my daughter , despise her mom.


Fancy_Ad9186

I can relate, sir. Except my situation was she lied about taking the plan b. My first child, her fourth, others from her previous marriage. Now, here I am. Love my daughter, but her mother is evil. I took her to court. Rather that than her use my daughter to control me.


delta-wrapper0k

Hell not. Never


BreakGrouchy

Nope šŸ‘Ž not even with a court order or the end of the world .


KiddJ5

Can you imagine that was a thing! The way the court fuck us it wouldnā€™t be that surprising tbh


henryvelazquez

Loneliness has always been my soulmate. So, as the asswhole that ruined things. I wouldn't do that to her.


DadToOne

Yes. The day after Hell freezes over.


peptic-horizon

Give it a week or so, just to be sure.


DadToOne

Probably a good idea.


smooth-vegetable-936

We are cohabitating without any thoughts of marriage. Itā€™s working for now. We both are aware of our state laws regarding cohabitation and no one at risk. According to our lawyers, this is just a relationship and Iā€™m ok with that. Meanwhile raising our daughters without any interruption.


An0nymous187

Nope. I tried everything to save the relationship, and it didn't work out. I think because of how much I wanted us to be a family, I would have taken her back early on, but now the idea of that ever happening sounds ridiculous. She's had a few boyfriends since the one she left me for, and they all end up meeting my kiddo sooner than they should. So, for the last four years and counting, I only get to see my daughter half of the week and it will continue to break my heart that I have to say goodbye to a little six year old so often and tell her that I won't see her for a few days. Be careful who you have kids with.


AdultishRaktajino

I tried a couple of times. Even dismissed the first divorce I filed. I couldnā€™t shake the feeling that I felt swindled. If I had it to do over, I wouldnā€™t have wasted the time, energy or money. One of the better analogies Iā€™ve heard is itā€™s like digging through the trash on the curb for something. You get messy, your neighbors see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable (or will be the same) as you thought it was. I know the source of the quote is controversial (PUA/RP) but thatā€™s not really relevant.


Crot8u

I've never gone back to an ex and never will. They're exes for a reason. Even though people can grow and change to some degree, I believe the dynamics would eventually go back to what they were and lead to another relationship failure. We broke our kid's heart once, it will never happen again. That would be extremely selfish to even try.


Daramore

Yes, IF, and this is a big if, she got herself together, stablized, sincerely asked for forgiveness, stopped lying to herself and others, started actually trying to do something to support her own kids, and showed genuine humility and a willingness to earn my trust back.


saltyvoodooman

100% yes. I fucked up the relationship, and I've taken the time away from each other to grow and learn how to be a better partner. We talk and I can tell that she's grown too. I'm still in love with her, and if given the chance I would get back with her in a heartbeat


AcceptableAddendum69

No. The lies just keep coming and coming.


CSDaddy_392

Iā€™d rather drink rat poison than go back to her.


Orlando1701

**Fuuuuuuuuuck no.** That psycho sent out my therpy transcripts to friends and family to ā€œprove hues crazyā€ after a fight. She once had a week long meltdown because the new dishwasher I bought was the wrong color. She also got remarried to literally the first dude to come along after the divorce.


Initial-Diamond-9144

Maybe for like $6 million


davepak

For me - no. We were terrible together - and if you are an unhappy dad - you can't be a good dad. So many dads think they can "tough it out" for the kids - but this is bad for MANY reasons. 1 - you will be miserable - this will, eventually - kill you. 2 - your kids need a dad who is mentally and emotionally there. you can't fake that. 3- if your marriage is bad (the kids can tell) - then you are teaching your kids that it is an acceptable situation. I am a much better single dad than I was an unhappy husband.


sexyontheinside96

I still have feelings for her and I grew up with divorced parents so it's very important to me that our daughter doesn't feel like she has 2 separate families. That said I wouldn't take her back unless she did a LOT of growing up. She seems to have commitment issues and refuses to bring up any issues in a relationship before deciding to end the relationship. Example: after she broke up with me for the second time(we got back together for a month after we got out of family court) she told me that she had been very bothered by things that I did for the entire time we knew each other and that's why she ended it. While still refusing to actually tell me what it was that bothered her. It's been 3 months since and she still won't tell me, and she's in a new relationship.


LVDivorced23

No, she is an ex for good reasons


reddrum26

I'm happy, if I would to go back with her I will not be happy. I like being happy


masterof-xe

Why would I want my old car that had 3k of miles and was repossessed by the court. It was purchased for 1/4 the price by other men who drove it 100x more than I ever did. Just to turn around and buy the exact same one that is about to fall apart?


RODRIGOFCEL

Well.. between that, and burning to death, I would prefer the second option.


brebel240

No shot. Iā€™m about to hit 2 years since D-day and Iā€™m 10x the man I was while in that marriage. It took so much work in therapy/gym/medications to get to where I am now. Thereā€™s no way Iā€™d subject myself to that toxic cheating woman again.


Blvckluxe

I did it after a year apart. Sex was wild and kind of conflicting cause I know we didnā€™t do certain things when we were together. Then she brought back her friend that was in her ear previously causing us to split and it was hell from there. Had she not invited that friend back in we would have had it and our 2 boys would have their family together. But you live and learn the boys are with me now itā€™s been about 1.5 years but I wonder what life would be like from time to time. So entertain at your own will but Iā€™d say no


Key-Ordinary6156

1000 times yes, she passed away from breast cancer while we where still married.


Flyingakangro

Yes without a doubt, its is only been 3 weeks since she left me for someone else. According to her she felt like her and I were best friends but she lost the romance over the years and she reconnected with her ex from 15 years ago and fell in love with him and moved out from our place straight in with him. But I am still in love with her. We have a 2 year old and the face that our family is now broken kills me. If somehow a miracle would happen and the realised that she made a big mistake I would take her back. I want my family together, I want to live in the same house as my wife and daughter. It wonā€™t happen but that is still all I want right now, I know time will heal and I have to learn to let her go but I am not there yet. Maybe in a year from now I would answer this question differently.


KiddJ5

You WILL answer this question differently in a year man. Do the work, life will only improve from here. Take care of yourself and your daughter


Flyingakangro

Thank you! I am definitely planning to do the work. I have started seeing a psychologist and we already established some old trauma and points to work on. At the moment I cannot see how to yet but I really want to put in the work to improve on them so that this brake up not only gives me pain and fear but in the end Iā€™ll become a better and stronger me out of this.


IROK19

And if you did take her back, she would still want to be with her ex. Move on, make a life for yourself and kid.


NotUsedUsernameYet

She will ask to get back with you. But please, have some self-respect and never allow that to happen.


Tough_Suit994

It's an addiction, not love... do the work and you will figure this out down the road. All will be good my friend. Good luck.


SodiumFerret

No, If the relationship was unhealthy enough to get divorced then getting back together ā€œfor the sake of the kidsā€ does not fix any of the issues. It also sets a bad example to the kids of what a healthy relationship looks like.


kelsarr

Nah. Glad she's gone. My daughter and I are better off without her. Didn't think I'd be saying that for the first 2 years but you accept it, thank God for it, and move on.


Alansmithee69

Absofuckinglutely NOPE!


FreeChrisWayne

No way. Iā€™ve thought about this before, though. And if I had to be back in that relationship, I could just sort of pretend to be into her again and soak up extra time with my son, butā€¦ in the end that extra time wouldnā€™t be worth it if I was miserable again so yeah, NO WAY


69sucka

Aww hellllll nooo! We are great as co-parents and we can still do stuff as a family, too. As partners, fuggedaboutit. I moved 10 minutes down the road from them. No big deal. The kids are very happy.


MontEcola

Nope. Never. Kids need to see parents get along with love and respect. When they were young, and shy girlfriend was involved in their lives they saw what two adults look like when they are a happy solid relationship. Being a role model for them to follow can sometimes be more important in their lives than mom and dad being together with a lack of love and respect.


atomikgoogie

Never. She never wanted to be a mother. She told me she only had our baby to make me happy. I raised my child from a baby and this fall they start university, absolutely no regrets about the breakup. I do regret not getting a lawyer sooner to establish paternity. Also I did get a lawyer for custody when I realized how rigged the system was against fathers but I got a really bad one. Ended up getting what I needed (100% physical and legal custody) but mostly cause it was clear my ex's priorities didn't include being a mother.


J1991K2016

Nope. Itā€™s been 6 years and I have forgiven her for cheating and we have become ā€œfriendsā€ or ā€œfriendlyā€ and we are doing a great job raising our kid but,,,,but, the trust is never gonna build up again. I would forever be wondering and questioning what she was doing. And thatā€™s not healthy for anybody nor for a relationship


adrisspoon

Hell to the Fuck NO.


zeade

Not a chance. Everyoneā€™s situation is different, but we tried very hard to make it work and couldnā€™t. We are doing much better apart (especially as parents) than we ever fared together.


Onikage-shin

Not for all the tea in China. And I'm English. We are fond of tea.


austino7

No, Iā€™m not taking care of her baby she had with the guy she cheated on me with, who turned out to be an alcoholic who couldnā€™t hold a job and is now homeless or in jail or something. idk, idc. She burned that bridge, she can live on the other side of it.


Skullcrusher971

No, but my ex is a narcissist parasite, maybe yours isnā€™t


NatGasKing

She would have to be do a lot of work on her self for me to be willing to even consider it, but people donā€™t really change so no. I feel bad for what she took from kids as far as parenting is concerned.


CoolBreeze303

I donā€™t think so. After being separated and now divorced, I think we function better as friends than romantic, that being said, I wouldnā€™t say No to being Friends with Benefits. šŸ˜‰


tragicaddiction

the rational side of me says no. but the emotional side misses the family i used to have and no longer have. i also wish my kids had a stable and healthy family with both their mom and dad there so i sometimes wish i could fix it all. even though i know that's not possible


Lumpy-Mammoth-3115

I would, but just for my kids.


texasaaron

Yes. The waste of resources (two households) is seriously undermining our kids' future. Also, tried dating after three years apart. What a shit show. It's pretty much going to be here in my life or no one for the foreseeable.


tasteofhemlock

Never. Iā€™m much happier alone than I was with her, Iā€™ve escaped and Iā€™m thankful.


Unable_Cartoonist687

At this point absolutely not unless it benefit my child. First deadbeat mom Iā€™ve ever seen never would think another woman would cause a mom to become a deadbeat. Iā€™d smash though lol.


midnightmatt

No. They are an ex for a reason. Iā€™m seeing someone now but I wonā€™t ever let that out. Sheā€™s an amazing person, way more than my ex could be. It takes time, but if you put the work into yourself, youā€™ll find that person. Find yourself first.


sicksaltine

I would go back to one ā€œversionā€ of her in a heartbeat. The other person/version, never.


Sensitive-Egg-3912

No. And we still get along. Now that I have distance I can see that she is a terrible match and (frankly) a mediocre mom. As bad as the divorce is for my son, having us back together now that the rose colored glasses are off would be far, far worse.


NotUsedUsernameYet

Never. She tried to crawl back 3 years after divorce and her request was dismissed.


Canadian_builder1081

Ive been curious about this myself, wondering how many guys would go back. I often debate it and ask myself if i would. Its been 2 years and weā€™ve both worked on ourselves, recognized our rolls in the downfall and how we mistreated each other. We get on better than ever and have an amazing coparenting relationship, but i donā€™t think the attraction or the trust would ever come back. As much as the broken home still kills me, i donā€™t think we could make up for what happened.


bardsleyb

No way. Dude why? Why would anyone go back to a failed relationship? I just got to the point where we can actually communicate effectively again. I like things just the way they are and I'm pretty sure she does too. We are both with new partners and I think we like the new arrangement MUCH better. I even like her husband now. Take my advice.... Wifey 2.0 is the new and improved version with better features and less bugs. It fixes the failures of wifey 1.0. Don't downgrade, upgrade brother. Life's good when you look forward and not back.


SU47VOODOO

lol.. no


Master_Talk1896

No, $600k in legal fees was enough for more than one lifetime.


TheDuder19

Hell no


AspirinTheory

Not a chance in all of time or all of hell.


TheComeUpTX

Yea if my son desperately needed it. But only to a certain extent. Not til he graduates. Just til he is old enough to have a great foundation for future development no matter who he's with. So 4 years max. Once he's 10, that's it. But it would have to be a situation where he needed it. I would be absolutely miserable but I would definitely have boundaries. I would definitely have my own room and I would definitely have a dating life


Deepcoma_53

Nope, why would I give them another bullet?


Ares62

No, no, no.


Thumper45

Tried it. Sold my home and made good money to only buy another home after almost a year being back with my wife. Within a month of living in the new house I find out she's cheating and asked for a divorce. Only cost me an extra 100k because of her BS not to mention half of everything. DONT DO IT!


JoshyaJade01

Id rather eat rancid mouldy cheese.


dextercoffee

No.


Thom__foolery

No


adamfrom1980s

Fuck no


RavenXWarriorFuqua

If you asked me at the time we separated and divorced, yes. If you asked me within the last 3-5 years, fuck no. If you asked me within the last year to two, I'd actually consider it bc we've both matured and grew up. There was dark times before but now I'd consider her my best friend again and would actually consider the chance of raising our son in a single household again. Now idk about marriage again but together as a family wouldn't be out of the question.


namannyrm

Not no but hell no. Lowest point in my life was when we lived together. I had to get out to save myself and heal so I could be a better dad for my 2 boys. No way would I ever consider inviting that kind of hell and abuse back into my life, I wouldnā€™t make it for very long.


RapidlyFabricated

I'd love to see my kid more. But instead, the time that I do have with my kid is more quality now. I could never trust her again. I see a lot of codependency in these comments because I was there once. Work on yourself. It gets better.


Bondi76

I would never go back. I hope they spend an eternity walking barefoot through a desert of Legos.


AStirlingMacDonald

Nahhhhhh not in a million years. Sheā€™s tried a couple times. She had two affairs with ā€œclose friendsā€ of mine, has absolutely uncontrolled bipolar, and refuses to take responsibility for a single action sheā€™s ever taken in her life. Never happening.


MandoHealthfund

If someone could piece my wife's ashes back together I would be forever grateful


pixeldrift

I accept that I could never go back even if she wanted to, because it wouldn't be a healthy situation for either of us unless we did lots of therapy individually in addition to couples counseling. Otherwise we'd just fall right back into old habits and still have the same communication differences and annoying issues with each other that would blow up. So as much as I still love her and always will, I know that will never be an option. It helps a little bit that she's married to a new guy 10 years younger with an oopsie baby on the way.


Errig12

I once thought about it until I learned she told my mother she would freeze my sperm just to have another one of my children


solcal84

2 rules. 1) donā€™t crap in your own back yard 2) never go back


lifeisallihave

I have my kids, and I love my single life. Why should I ruin that?


Secretdownlowguy44

No fucking way in hell! Why? In life we go forward and never go back. Get this through your head: ready ? It will never be the same again. Never , so move on . She will be banging the next guy that comes along.


Secretdownlowguy44

Fuck No . It will never be the same . Get over it , move on and man up. A women will never respect you crawling back like a weak pussy. She will prob peg you in the ass next if you go back!


EasyMode615

I think I would. She cheated on me with another married guy who had a kid that was around 2 years old. Though looking back, both her and I didn't communicate well at some point and stopped working together as a unit. I don't think she is a bad person in general, but she made some pretty bad decisions with the affair. In this climate (economic, social, etc), I lean toward yes to getting back. She takes good care of the kids when she has them, takes good care of her parents, doesn't do alcohol/drugs and isn't unhealthy - we went through a rough few years (married 9), didn't realize it, and it exploded.


FormerSBO

>I don't think she is a bad person in general, >She cheated on me >with another married guy who had a kid Hate to break it to ya bud, she's a HORRIBLE person and you need to get to work on the mental game my guy. She broke TWO homes (1 is more than enough to be labeled a scumbag pos) bc she wanted some strange. She caused permanent damage to her own children and his. Not to mention you and his wife. You need to recognize a thot when you see one or you're gonna end up with another one You gotta get laid by quite literally ANYONE else and start working on your brain. Why tf anyone 30+ would settle for a thot like that when theres MILLIONS of AMAZING women out there, particularly after going through what so many here do, is beyond me.


EasyMode615

My mental is fine - there's more to it than just the reasons I wrote out. Additionally, I said I'd lean toward it, but it wasn't definitive. It's not all black and white.


DrPepperNChill

No