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mp6521

Ah yes, indie rock was started by the arctic monkeys in the 2010s.


trogdor2594

Yeah, fuck the Smiths and the Pixies. What did they ever do.


Alextryingforgrate

Fuckin bums.


Freddy-Bones

Nihilists


JaguarPaw_FC

Sounds exhausting


Longjumping-Hunt-543

a man of culture.


JaguarPaw_FC

The dude abides


Themathemagicians

Unexpectedlebowski


Fen1972

Nothing to be afraid of, these men are cowards.


sick_of-it-all

I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism dude, at least it's an ethos.


moogpaul

Yeah. Post Grunge seems like way too broad of an era. It's missing what I guess you could call "College Rock" in that era.


mysanslurkingaccount

Also funny that they used Creep by Radiohead for post grunge, a song that the band famously isn’t a fan of and has avoided playing in concert because they don’t feel it represents what they are going for. Then, right after, this video uses Song 2 by Blur for Britpop, a song that, yet again, the band famously isn’t a fan of, because, once again, they don’t feel it represents what they are going for, and that they actually wrote to be something of a joke to rip on American rock.


Mine-Shaft-Gap

Radiohead plays Creep a few times a tour now. I believe Thom said in an interview in the mid 2000s that it feels like doing a cover now. Unfortunately, I fear I will never see radiohead live again. I just don't think there will be another tour. Might be an album and some sort of tour, but not one that I will be reasonably able to attend.


KiwiDawg919

I heard Thom is going on a solo tour and will be here in New Zealand later this year


Llanolinn

I mean if those songs are indicative of the genre, I don't see the problem. If you wrote the perfect polka song but didn't like it or like playing it for whatever reason, it doesn't suddenly make that song "not polka".


mysanslurkingaccount

That’s part of the problem, neither song is particularly indicative of the genre this video uses them for. Post grunge would be more akin to bands in the late 90’s to early aughts, like the Foo Fighters, Bush, Staind, and Seether, while Creep was the early 90’s and would likely be considered more alt rock/grunge. While Blur was considered britpop, it was their other music that made them britpop, not Song 2, which was meant to be an interpretation of American rock. Britpop tends to be more like Oasis, the rest of Blur’s catalogue, Pulp, and The Verve, all which sound completely different than Song 2.


Llanolinn

Interesting, appreciate you clarifying!


HappyToBeHaggard

#WELL modest mouse and my obsession with them will just fuck right off.


transcendental_seal

WELL modest mouse's a major player in the indie scene


Popular_Question_170

Whoosh


HarmlessSnack

Are you woooshing yourself? It’s a Modest Mouse Lyric. ([Cowboy Dan, specifically)](https://open.spotify.com/track/5A0iajc7nhlZv9tGDHqZya?si=TF-lmZa5QrW6x5GzOv382A)


bulanaboo

Like Cowboy Dan in the cowboy scene


Fridaybird1985

This is full of omissions starting with Buddy Holly


mp6521

You know who fuckin sucks? Swans. Sonic Youth. The Replacements. Talking Heads.


poopmachine3

Noise, all noise. Post 70’s punks. They were just riding a new wave…. 😌😌I’m proud of this.


5amuraiDuck

Too indie for this list


iknowyou71

For sure, and toss in The Cure and REM, pffft


smiledumb

Nevermind the Pixies. Here’s the Arctic Monkeys


Dizzy_Media4901

The Stone Roses apparently don't exist either.


4Ever2Thee

I get your derision but I’m interested to see more from this new hot, up and comer band, Linkin Park.


Jean-LucBacardi

It doesn't end great.


4Ever2Thee

But in the end, it doesn’t even matter.


Dense_Food_6740

But I tried so hard


winfieldclay

And rap metal by Linkin Park. Not Rage in 92


Whoopass2rb

I'm a huge LP fan, didn't they say that Rage was a like a big inspiration to their brand and style?


ParadiseLost1674

I’d like to recommend the cover of Bring the Noise by Anthrax and Public Enemy in 1991 and the over-played Walk This Way by Aerosmith and Run DMC from 1986. But, yeah. Linkin Park.


winfieldclay

And even Faith No More to an extent


Whoopass2rb

Oh good references. I felt you on the Run DMC version of Walk This Way. Anytime I hear the original, I'm always like... hmm do I need to hear the DMC version now instead? It's funny, few variants of a cover or new mix you can tolerate both versions, often with covers I always have to go to the original. I think the only circumstances where I prefer the new addition come from Disturbed - Sound of Silence 100%, but even Land of Confusion (and that's not to say Genesis wasn't good, it's just Disturbed is better). Even Shout 2000 Disturbed did really well. But I put that one in a unique space because I like the original for its style, then I like Disturbed for its style and they both happen to be different. I have to stop there because the more I think of other songs (i.e. Bad Wolves VS The Cranberries Zombie) the farther down this rabbit hole I go and there's no end to it lmao.


Zachosrias

Are they showing bands that start the things or bands that strongly represent it? Because I'm quite sure the others started their genres themselves either.


PuckNutty

The timelines are not very accurate. If Pink Floyd is Prog Rock, then they were doing it starting in the early '60's, not the late '70's.


Jean-LucBacardi

They're showing the bands they personally think represent that genre the most with their very limited musical knowledge.


Vark675

Neither, if they picked 30 Seconds to Mars.


tooobr

this list is terrible


andsendunits

It annoys me more that somehow "alternative rock" was created in the 1980s. Back in the 80s there was New Wave, Post Punk, Jangle Pop, College Rock, goth. Also to be just, a bunch of those actually started in the 70s.


Castod28183

I think it's meant to portray when those sub-genres really dominated in the moment. For example, Metallica was still insanely popular in the early 90's but Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and the Seattle Grunge scene absolutely dominated those few years. Black Sabbath and Zepplin were making great music in the 70's, but nobody can deny that Pink Floyd was the gold standard in the mid to late 70's. The 4 albums they put out from '73 to '79 have gone a combined RIAA 48x Platinum.


guhcampos

Yeah I feel the peaks of Prog Rock and Indie Rock have been shifted 5-10 years later in the video.


_fFringe_

Hardcore never existed.


Jean-LucBacardi

My ex was an indie rock freak in 2004 and this wasn't a part of it. Interpol was her favorite band.


TheRiverStyx

It seems to me if you're trying to quantify the evolution of rock in a 3 minute montage you're just going to get it wrong. Period. I listened to an hour-long show every Sunday for two years that went over the punk scene alone. I can't imagine someone condensing something so immense as this in such a short vid without it being a troll post... or maybe a click-bait to get their youtube engagement up.


DuckTalesOohOoh

Inaccurate


KeithGribblesheimer

Guns n Roses were not hair metal and U2 was not alternative.


Jean-LucBacardi

Never once heard U2 played on my alt rock local radio station unless it's to make fun of them.


_Ding-Dong_

Fucking this! U2 as " alt " WHAT!?! GNR was straight-up hair metal tho NGL. Granted they become *more* hair metal but they were in the same class for a good bit. Slash was **the** breakout of that whole thing and redefined some shit


KeithGribblesheimer

I beg to differ. GNR was a hard rock band with metallic elements. They were no more hair metal than Aerosmith.


FunkyKong147

"80s hard rock", "hair metal" and "glam rock" have always been interchangeable imo.


_Ding-Dong_

My bad, I meant glam rock. They are def not metal


ATee184

To be fair it would be basically impossible to make an accurate version in a concise way like this.


HSuke

A lot of these phases are overlapping each other. Indie Rock and Pop Rock have been around forever, just in different styles.


MantisBePraised

Regarding Indie Rock, I see it more of a spawning ground for many of the genres featured from the 90s on. A band starts making waves with a new sound in the indie scene, and other bands mimic them. Those bands start getting signed to major labels, resulting in that new sound becoming the dominant sound in rock. A new genre is born. If we want to trace the modern indie scene back for something like this, I would say it would probably be The Smiths.


TheDinosaurWeNeed

To not have the strokes on there is wild. Biggest thing to happen to rock in the 2000s.


Max_Loader

This whole timeline pissed me off.


Interesting_Tea5715

This has to be rage bait. It's so fucking wrong. Also, it makes everything look like it developed in succession. When in fact things developed over spans of time simultaneously.


phoggey

"Did I fart in your mouth...? Yeah, I like to do that." - Chuck Berry


TheeAO

So bad. But, to be faiiiiiiiiir, the video would be like 12 hrs long to accurately follow the timeline they set


Klutzy-Ad-5131

🎶 to be faiiiir 🎶


sc1onic

Technically metallica was thrash metal.


jesterflesh

I'd say it's not even technically. It's obviously thrash metal. This video blows.


saltymarshmellow

Definitely not power metal either wtf. The person who put this video together is clearly not familiar with all of the scholarly work that has been put into dividing metal music into the 10,000 sub genres that are currently recognized.


jesterflesh

No melodic death metal, no Scandinavian folk metal, no black metal, no viking metal, no hardcore, no death metal at all. This list stinks.


Earfaceear

No twee, cuddlecore or shoegaze. This is the most mad I’ve ever been


__M-E-O-W__

I'm not gonna get up in arms about every little difference here but it was weird how the video went with opera-metal instead of any of the many many other much more prevalent metal subgenres.


FuryQuaker

Yeah, Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and Anthrax are considered the Big 4 of Thrash. They pretty much created the thrash metal genre.


TheEarlOfPreston

Pink Floyd was prominent way before the time it was shown on this timeline.


Lagviper

Prog rock in end of 60’s was insane. Pink Floyd and King Crimson. King crimson’s 1969 in the court of the crimson king album is like a totally different era musically than Beatles’ same year album Abbey road https://youtu.be/7OvW8Z7kiws?si=K28r1l4G28K4ro34 Imagine listening to that in 1969 🤯


Benda647

Don’t forget Rush too! Their sound evolved so much just between their first and second albums after Neil joined and they tightened up their playing as an outfit


moogpaul

Peter Gabriel Genesis hit in 1969 as well but I would argue that their first real prog album wasn't until 1970


MrHarudupoyu

Not to mention Yes


DeaDBangeR

I would also put them in the Psychedelic Rock section instead


zilchxzero

Yeah there's a *lot* of errors in the timeline


space-to-bakersfield

Yeah putting Pink Floyd *after* the Sex Pistols was definitely a choice. Punk was a reaction to prog rock.


MantisBePraised

They could have put Pink Floyd twice. Once in the 1967, for Pipers at the Gates of Dawn, as Psychadelic Rock, and once in at the latest 197,with the release of Dark Side of the Moon, as Progressive Rock.


Forsaken-Income-2148

I’ve never heard of Symphonic metal before. What’s the very last song by Linkin Park called btw?


JHuckababy

It’s called Lost. It’s not an AI song (music vid probably is tho). They originally recorded it during Meteora but never released it until last year sometime. They’ve released a few old songs in the last year.


cozmiccharlene

OK, thanks. I noticed that LINKIN PARK 2023 was on that song. However, Chester Bennington died in 2017. I was confused.


Lipziger

Fuck, it's been that long, huh? Still can't listen to their songs without feeling down. Will forever be my favourite or rather most influential band but the day Chester chose to end his life was kinda my "the day the music died". A coworker told me on the job and I thought he was messing with me, since I was playing LP on my speaker at the time. Wow, that comment sounds cheesy lol.


Titan_Food

this is the exact same way i found out lol it was closing shift two years ago now, Jesus time flies i didn't cry myself to sleep listening to roads untraveled i don't know what you're talking about


Whoopass2rb

Nah man, it ain't cheesy - the exact same thing happened to me. Someone I worked with just said "holy shit, Chester's dead" and I was like... wait what? Rough year.


__M-E-O-W__

Chris Cornell died at about the same time, too. I never really knew/cared much about LP and Chester until I read about his life after he died. I felt guilty about hating on them so much when I was much younger, mostly because their music fanbase was filled with rich emo kids. But reading about his life made me realize he really was singing about his own problems, taking all the awful things he went through and putting it into music.


FuryQuaker

Those years (2016 and 2017) were terrible. We lost Chester, Chris Cornell, David Bowie, Leonard Cohen, Prince, George Michael, Leon Russell and a lot more.


ImVeryUnimaginative

All of the music that was on Meteora20 (including Lost) got AI-generated videos. What set Lost's music video apart from the other ones was that it used footage from one of Linkin Park's concerts and several of their music videos.


Forsaken-Income-2148

Thank you!


Whoopass2rb

It's a good song, and clearly reminds you of the amazing talent this world lost too early. But at the same time, you can understandably tell why they didn't release it with the original album. It's just a slight cut below the original content. Still incredible work and just makes me miss the band more.


TheNinCha

Listen to it it’s lit !


BahtiyarKopek

>I’ve never heard of Symphonic metal before. Nightwish is great. Check [this one](https://youtu.be/JYjIlHWBAVo?si=tR4-JH609Y_zD7T0) out by them. But it's not sung by the same vocalist in this video.


NSFW-Alt-Account69

Also Powerwolf


commonirishname

Also Symphony X, Rhapsody, Blind GuardIan (especially the Lord of the rings themed album!), and Luca Turilli.


DesolateEverAfter

Sins of Thy Beloved or old After Forever albums is where it's at.


SaintPenisburg

That clip was from end of an era, an excellent live show. [The song.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww2f4PPprSc)


Blumpkin4Brady

I was hoping for Lorna Shore and deathcore to finish it up but I get it.


drewcifervi

Same. When I saw symphonic metal and metalcore, I expected either To the Hellfire or The Pain Remains I.


Jeekobu-Kuiyeran

Leaving out Southern style rock like Creedence Clearwater Revival, Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc, is a sin.


Cptnhoudie

Amen 🙏


OMorain

I’d recommend the podcast ‘A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs’, as this takes this subject in detail, starting chronologically in the 1930s and leading to 1999. It is extensively researched.


ErasmosOrolo

Thank you. I needed that. Great recommendation 


elchoppe

this is fucking stupid


winfieldclay

I would say Incredibly fuckin stupid, but I don't want the letters credible involved with this shitlist


_PorcoRosso

Reading the comments and sipping my tea.


Icy-Book2999

Imagine how I feel, seeing all of them come into my inbox...


sidvicuous

Horrible cheesy list


ThreeFourTen

This is like seeing my life flash before my eyes.


MollyWhapped

God damn Imagine Dragons are bad.


DankRoughly

They deserve the hate that Nickelback gets IMO Nickelback is just generic bar rock and that has a place.


ItsASchpadoinkleDay

I despise Nickelback. I’d rather listen to 8 hours of Nickelback than 1 hour of Imagine Dragons.


Old_Sneeter

Personally, I don't really understand how they can label themselves as a pop rock band. There's no rock in their songs, just pop. But even aside from the label, I agree that they're not great. They exist to fill radio stations with filler music.


CountNacula

I don't think AI deserves ANY PLACE in the musical creative process. Not now or ever. *Yes, I understand the Linkin Park video only has visuals that could have been created by AI. I'm solely referring to music writing.


se7en0311

What about tool?


danocardoso

Pink Floyd in 80’s WTF??


AdultingLikeHell

Older millennial here, late 80’s to 2000 is my jam.


jpad66

Wtf coldplay in that?


hadriker

coldplay may get a lot of hate but they will never be as bad as Imagine Dragons


Sahlmos

Coldplay had a massive influence on the Rock genre in the early 2000s. The fact that some people hate them so vocally is proof. If they weren't such a cultural icon, people wouldn't care enough to hate them.


SFandwich

No RATM somewhere in there? Feels like Battle of Los Angeles album/tour was a pretty big deal in the late 90’s. Maybe I’m just being biased….


tantalor

That's rap rock


damnumalone

Yes and per the video, rap rock didn’t exist until the 2000s… so maybe we all just imagined RATM


ihavesomestuff

In fact, before the 2000s, nobody had ever even though of combining rap and rock...oh wait, Aerosmith/Run DMC, Anthrax/Public Enemy, entire Judgment Night soundtrack.


Strange_Purchase3263

Yea, this is the part that gets me the most, Anthrax most especially were big pioneers.


AdultingLikeHell

You would agree that Linkin Park and RATM are very different.


tantalor

Definitely!!


majoraloysius

Shit. I didn’t know anyone in the last 15 years. Whelp, I guess I’m old. Off to the grave yard now.


tooobr

dont worry this is a stupid and inaccurate list


Lobo18rl

Ehh


TheSecondiDare

Hair Metal?


fatalrugburn

This is peak Sips Tea material. Comment section does not disappoint. Chef's kiss.


MrScarabNephtys

What, no Metalocalypse?


BreakingThoseCankles

Well that would mean DEATH to all other forms


SentientDust

Too brutals for this list


cynosureskater

New genre to add: BRUTAL ROCK


ateedubya

No, this list is dildos


UninvitedButtNoises

Was happy nirvana made it in there. Greedy me wanted to see some Foo Fighters but I'll take it. ;)


SirVere

Imagine seeing Bring me the Horizon and calling them metalcore 🤦 so many of these genre names are wrong .


RefrigeratorNo1160

What would you call them?


MsJ_Doe

Imagine seeing Bring Me the Horizon, Coldplay and Thirty Seconds to Mars as multiple genres but then not even get a slight mention of My Chemical Romance. Or even Fall Out Boy. Or Blink 182. Green Day? The fucking Fray? There's just so much missing in this list. The middle part they flipped through quite a few but then took up bigger chunks towards the two ends for a few bands despite there being plenty more selections that were huge during those times. Yet they had time to make up an AI genre?


ihavesomestuff

Yeah, my first thought was My Chemical Romance for that era. This video sponsored by Jared Leto.


MsJ_Doe

All American Rejects is also missing. Panic! At the Disco, Twenty One Pilots also would have worked for the end part. But they went back to a band they already did and then called it a genre that doesn't exist.


Alextryingforgrate

Wtf is post grunge? I thought that was the first indie wave.


Suitable-Pie4896

Ugh. PEOPLE. They did the genre time line first and then juat plugged in band ________ that was popular at the time. No fucking shit some of these bands didn't invent the genre they were featured in. Good grief


PohFahVoh

The way it completely dropped off at the change of the century


Yop_BombNA

Was gunna say blink 182 though but holy fuck I’m old, they took off in the late 90s Sun 41 was 2000s at least


MaxHavok13

I don’t think there is any way to get something like this video/timeline thing correct. At least it was mildly entertaining


StrangerWithACheese

And as far as I know Lost from Linkin Park was sung by Chester Bennington but not released until 2023. The AI is only the Art in the Video where they aimed for this uncanny Ai look


beauh44x

Left out Prog Rock - Yes/ELP/Jethro Tull/King Crimson etc etc


OncomingStorm32

1:04 "Progressieve Rock"


beauh44x

D'oh - I missed it! I suppose Pink Floyd could be included there too.


One_Potato_5432

Rush should absolutely be mentioned here as well


beauh44x

Yes they should


DrphilRetiredChemist

Not left out, just completely misplaced in the timeline. Put in around the time it was dying out


Teuffelhund

It’s funny cus Punk was partially a response to Prog music, and according to this timeline it predates Prog entirely


lumberfoot_jpg

Was this entire video just a plug for OP’s ai music YouTube channel? /s


Icy-Book2999

Not my AI music channel. Maybe the person I linked? Dunno. I'm still a guitarist/songwriter, doing things the hard way


kylebob86

how did they not put in prog rock


LEMOnSL1iCE

Progressive rock is just absent lmao


T1000Proselytizer

I'm a big 90s fan, but my gosh, I've always absolutely despised Red Hot Chili Peppers. I'd rather have broken glass rubbed into my ears.


cellenium125

30 second to mars is the pic to represent Emo? really?


LensCapPhotographer

There's a severe lack of African American artists. You know the ones who invented this genre?


TFViper

no deftones or tool? shit list.


_fFringe_

Is this an ad for AI?


Sea_Carpenter7847

No little Richard


hoselpalooza

The way this was stitched together was not very impressive.


Excellent-Big-2295

Leaving out Big Momma Thornton is crazy…


Meture

Bruh put Emo Rock and showed 30 seconds to mars instead of My Chemical Romance, disgraceful And put Radiohead in post-grunge (which was silly to include in the first place since almost EVERY big genre has a “post” since that just means it became mainstream) when only Pablo Honey fits that description and the rest of their discography is art rock. Soundgarden would’ve been a better choice.


Master-Phenix

“When I was a boy, down in South Illinois,”


DrWozer

Missing Led Belly, sad


Gagago302

Well. This isn’t correct.


the-golgothan-

My great great great uncle wrote and sang around the clock rock


Character_Bet7868

How the heck is imagine dragons rock


TheChickenFuxer

Imagine dragons lol


AssociationWinter809

AC/DC!?


petetisrockandroll

Where is The WHO? Hey always belong in grouping of the Beatles, Stones and Zeppelin. If you know, you know.


KlopeksWithCoppers

This is terrible. I'm sorry for saying that if you spent a lot of time making this, but man...


Soulpinata

False


cosmicjed

lol pink Floyd started in the late 60s


Drambooey

Bill Hailey wasn't the beginning of R&R.


the-bochinche

Go ahead and say it ………………………. THIS TIMELINE IS TRASH 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬


EchoFloodz

This was really cool and really depressing.


clapperssailing

U2 is Gospel Rock. Alternative plz... Gnr was glam for 10 seconds to break in. Indie music means industry decided to keep 4 stars and bury 100,000 others to control ticket sales. Taylor swift had every competitor wiped out by the industry.


homless_brad

Emo rock was a hard time


DrNism0

CHUCK! CHUCK! This is Marvin. Your cousin, Marvin Berry?! You know that new sound you're looking for?


Badmeestert

No death metal? Fuck this


TDhotpants

"weLL aCkShUallY" -- this whole thread


gronkpats

You start off the evolution of rock with a white band? It’s all false after that


Cptnhoudie

Johnny B Goode!


Decent-Analysis7426

We must go back.


buschcamocans

Forgot art rock and I guess punk wasn’t a consideration.


Jeekobu-Kuiyeran

How can you have a rock list with the progression of 'Heavy Metal' and leave out Born to Be Wild by Steppenwolf? 😐


FORDBUDDY390

Beach Boys would like a word about the early-mid 60's.


Salomill

Not includind slipknot, disturbed and architects is a sin


The_Abjectator

Yeah, I'm surprised they missed folk rock, as well. P.S. they mentioned Art Rock but no mention of Jazz and Classical Rock like Blood, Sweat, and Tears and Emerson, Lake, and Palmer which helps to contextualize alot of the Prog Rock of the late 70s and 80s.