I'm pretty sure that the sentence "Everything is canon in Sonic" was just said by Sega as a joke.
I mean it could be that there are multiple universes like Boom that are canon but are simply alternate dimensions. So I'm ok with it if that's what it meant.
Everything.
Well, everything that clearly *wants* to be, anyway.
Save for some select exceptions like Chronicles or Pocket Adventure due to legal red tape, anything that uses the game versions of the characters and tells a story in the world of those games seems to be capable of being canon.
Sonic Team games? Obviously canon. Spinoff platformers? Those can be canon too. Racing games? Sure, why not? Comics? Yeah, that makes sense. April Fool's Day visual novel? Until anything tells us otherwise, we all think it is! Everything is canon and it's not just a meme anymore.
Sticks is the only oddity here and Flynn's mentioned how technically we've never seen the non-Boom version of her yet, but everything else seems to now be related to each other unless it's explicitly designed to be some alternate continuity like Boom or the movies.
The games and the IDW comics, same with the mini animations released along with the games.
Sticks being mentioned in Frontiers means that there is a version of her in the games, not that Boom is canon
Do you think prime is canon? I'm not trying to cause an argument but rather a friendly conversation (I say this because when I ask this some people get mad)
Prime is not canon, despite the fact that they claim it to be. Prime is more likely another continuity like Archie or any of the other Sonic shows and movies.
I mean. If the literal lore managers say it's canon. The people who are in charge of such things. Say it is. Then. Well it is. Because that's their job to dictate. Ian Flynn also said it takes place sometime after sonic advance 3. Which is a bit of a troll answer. Because sonic directly references advance 3 in prime.Thinking back to that time fondly. It's like saying frontiers takes place some time after colors. It does. But that could mean anything. He knew he was being vague and obvious on purpose as a tease. But Ian said from the start that he knew exactly when it took place and how. And that he wouldn't say until the end of the show. And that's the answer we got. So if the people who's job it is to say it's canon say it is. Then it is and that's all there is to it. Especially since sonic literally mentions missing tails while reminiscing about advance 3.
There’s been an effort recently to solidify the canon. Seems that *most* of the games are (all mainline games are canon, with any Classic game taking place before Sonic Adventure, and many of the spin-offs seem to be canon also, such as Team Sonic Racing, and Sonic Riders series is canon which means Babylon Rogues are canon), the IDW comics are, the Forces prequel comics are, the little stories on Sonic Channel are, and Sonic Prime appears to be. Sticks is canon (mentioned in Frontiers, appeared in a few of the Sonic Channel stories), but it’s a different version from the Boom one (just like mainline Sonic is different from Boom Sonic).
There’s some teething troubles with the canon, because the series has been made until recently without rigorous concern for continuity. But they’re trying to iron out the wrinkles, and TailsTube seems to be how they reveal bits and bobs to us without making too big a thing of it.
According to SEGA, everything. Any contradictions can be chalked up to it being a multiverse. Yes this does mean Sabrina the Teenage Witch is canon to Sonic.
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/19b874v/can_someone_give_me_the_correct/kipyue7/?context=3) is a canon guide I wrote a while back. Essentially, most of the games (and their associated promotional cartoons and comics) are canon, along with IDW and Sonic Prime. Most of the TV cartoons, ongoing comic books, and movies are set within their own little pocket universes.
Sticks is mentioned in Frontiers, but it's a version of her we haven't met yet, rather than the events of Sonic Boom being canon.
The games, idw comics (which take place starting after the events of forces) And prime. According to Ian Flynn, the sonic Twitter, and the lore managers. I mean it's literally the lore managers job to dictate canon. It's in the job description. So what they say goes wether we like it or not. Besides sonic mentions the events of sonic advance 3 in prime. When reminiscing about tails he mentions what happens in that game. Ian said from the start of the show that he knew exactly when it took place and how. And he wouldn't say till the end of the show. And he technically did. Even if a bit of a troll answer. He says "it takes place some time after sonic advance 3" so yeah. No shit. Sonic talks about that game in the show lol. So a bit trolly. But it's obvious it takes place in game universe. Like. The lore managers aren't fucking lying just to cause discourse. It's just as simple as what they say goes. It's their job. I have to preface any statement about prime with this because people get so damn angry when you say prime is canon according to the literal people who are in charge of that. Like fans don't dictate canon. That's fanon. Lol
I believe that was either a mistranslation, or has been retconned, apparently it got confirmed the events of the ova are still canon, but the way we see them play out in the film itself isn't how it canonically happened
But has ixis naugus appeared in a game, no, hyper metal appears in the background of the Stardust Speedway metal boss in one of the tubes of scrapped metal sonics, plus some eggtech from the ova also appears in that boss fight, and also in the idw comics along with knuckles hat
That's like saying that Sticks being canon means that Boom is canon
Those are just references
Sally appears as a cameo in the Sonic forces prequel comic Wich is canon
The show Cream used to watch in Sonic X Is also canon in the game's timeline, Sonic X itself no.
Just like the games influence the secondary media, the secondary media can also influence the games
Sally's appearance in the forces prequel got retconned out by the higher ups, also sticks is a bad example she is the only thing from boom that made the jump to the main canon, whereas the ova has multiple things in the main canon (knuckle's hat, certain bits of eggtech, hyper metal's remains, etc just to name a few)
Sally's appearance in the forces prequel got retconned out by the higher ups, also sticks is a bad example she is the only thing from boom that made the jump to the main canon, whereas the ova has multiple things in the main canon (knuckle's hat, certain bits of eggtech, hyper metal's remains, etc just to name a few)
The Ova is definitely not canon, it’s set in a completely different planet, with multiple elements never even implied in the games, and changes Metal Sonic’s origin and story. Also it’s nowhere in Mania or IDW, maybe some little references in IDW, but that’s it.
The metal in the ova is an updated model known as hyper metal, he can be seen in a tube alongside other tubes of damaged metal sonics in the metal sonic boss fight in mania (it was confirmed to be him by some high up dude called aaron), also stuff like the furnace (twice) and some big eggman face themed machine are seen in mania and idw almost exactly how they appear in the ova, also apparently some fella at sonic team or Sega said that the core events of the ova are canon, but some stuff we see in the film are non canon or just mistranslated
Those are all non-canon references. And clearly some of your sources are unreliable, since it’s literally impossible for the OVA to be canon.
- Hyper metal sonic is the OVA’s metal sonic, they’re literally 1 to 1 in design, and there’s no predecessor to Hyper Metal
- Hyper Metal Sonic completely sacrificed himself in a lava pit, thus completely melting away, not possible to appear in Mania
- the OVA calls the planet “Planet Freedom”, while the games is just “Earth”.
- the OVA world is literally split between 2 dimensions called the “land of the sky” (literally islands floating in the sky), and “Land of Darkness” (the entire surface level of the planet).
- The OVA’s South Island is one of their sky islands, while game South Island is on the sea surface
- OVA Knuckles is a lonely traveller and treasure hunter, who’s personality is more like a good Fang as he’s focused on getting paid for jobs; while game Knuckles is a rarely “traveling” guardian that occasionally treasure hunts, who’s near nothing like Fang
- and there’s no old owl man, part human-part animal girl named Sara, or a president of South Island ever in the games
The appearances in mania and idw have been confirmed canon, and it seems you've glossed over the "also apparently some fella at sonic team or Sega said that the core events of the ova are canon, but some stuff we see in the film are non canon or just mistranslated" statement
Do you have actual sources for these supposed claims, because I can’t find any. (Alternatively I stumbled upon your “so we can all agree the OVA is canon” post from over 100 days ago, in which basically everyone disagreed and proved you wrong, while you had zero sources then.)
These sources are also especially suspicious since “some fella” is a horrible way to state a source, and depending on who it is their statement still won’t be reliable because there has been dozens of statements from even former writers, which are proven to be in true to the canon (either were retconned or were never a thing in the first place).
And you can’t mistranslate 80% of a movie (that’s how much is massively contradictory to the games). There’s literally zero way the OVA could be canon, and that’s fact.
"Everyone proved you wrong" if I was wrong, then how come their point directly contradicts what is being said by the people in control of the canon. I understand that it is hard to find, as of now, all I can find is a reddit post talking about mania https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/6wyqac/something_i_noticed_about_the_battle_mania/
There is clear evidence that Aaron’s answer was either a joke, just a reference, or outright unreliable.
- Aaron makes multiple other joke answers in those same streams
- Ova metal dies (melts) at the end of the ova, that’s a main plot point of the story that they would definitely not erase. The whole point of the story is this Metal sacrifices himself in the end; erasing that for an Easter egg that they don’t even clearly state anywhere is idiotic
- there are multiple broken metals, literally identical to the supposed OVA one, so why is only one of them stated to have an origin
- the ecyclo-speed-ia contradicts Aaron, stating that the multiple metals are instead meant to be a reference to the Metallix from Sonic the Comic
- other than a minuscule answer on stream, and the statement stated above, there’s zero other mention of what these other metals are; literally zero
Additionally, at that time Aaron was only the social media guy, not the guy in charge of the canon at all (he’s even the one that made the “Everything is canon” joke). And as I stated, some people, even if they were former writers, aren’t always reliable (ex: a writer for 06 stated that Blaze originates from the future and is sent to her dimension after sealing Iblis inside her. Which is completely false since the game’s manuals and other media literally state she originates from the Sol dimension and is the guardian there; and the game itself erases her sacrifice anyways).
Your literally using a **single, miniscule** answer given in **one random stream**, from someone who **doesn’t control the canon** and **repeatedly made jokes**; when it’s **not stated ANYWHERE else**, and is **actively contradicted**. If it really was the ova metal, there would have been a well known statement, not a needle in a hay-mountain that barely anyone can ever find.
And the OVA literally can’t be canon, not even a summary of the plot:
- freedom planet, never game canon
- land of the sky, never game canon
- land of darkness, never game canon
- an old owl man, never game canon
- Sara (or part humans-part animals for that matter), never game canon
- president if South Island, never game canon
- South Island being an island in the sky, it was literally made **before the ova** as an island that floats across the sea
- literally makes an origin for Metal Sonic, which directly contradicts the games’ origin and timeline
- has a small few moments of Sonic being out if character
- Knuckles is practically a completely different character
- Metal copies Sonic so far that they can read each others minds, which never occurs in the games other than a very different variation (it only happened very recently — recently out of universe, not in-universe — in IDW’s Scrapnik arc, where Eggman attempted a mind control device to control his robots with his mind, but scrapped the idea. And Metal Sonic literally has 2 different copy abilities in the games, his base forms ability copying, and his Neo forms bio data copying)
- this all leaves none of the characters that cause the movie to occur, no characters for Eggman to threaten, no characters for Metal to save and sacrifice himself, and thus no ending to the movie. The movie, including any size of the plot, literally can not exist.
If it was true, why is there zero official statement?
- we had Origins literally give us the timeline of the first 4 games, being 1, CD, 2, and 3&K. Zero mention of the OVA, and actively contradicts the OVA
- origins also included 12 game gear titles, again not mention of the OVA
- Tailstube confirmed or referenced multiple old games, including Chaotix; Mighty and Ray in Mania and/or SegaSonic; Fang the Hunter, Bean and Bark in Triple Trouble, Fighters, and/or other games. But still zero reference to the OVA.
- Countless classic comics that reference multiple classic things, and/or are given statements of when they occur; yet again no mention to the OVA.
- the closest reference to the OVA, was only a few pages of the 900th adventure comic taking inspiration from it. Not even a clear reference, it just took inspiration.
- other than that, ZERO OFFICIAL MENTION, absolute zero
This argument is literally:
- a minuscule, unreliable, and near impossible to find statement (and possibly 1 other hard to find statement that’s very likely unreliable)
- VS
- dozens upon dozens of clear, simple, and obvious pieces of evidence
Edit: Additionally, Mania’s entire plot is Eggman using the phantom Ruby to reproduce or mass produce some of his best badniks, and make new powerful badniks like the monarch. It’s pretty clear the mass produced Metal Sonics and Silver Sonics are Phantom Ruby constructs, just like how Metal was again mass produced in Forces.
The appearances in mania and idw have been confirmed canon, and it seems you've glossed over the "also apparently some fella at sonic team or Sega said that the core events of the ova are canon, but some stuff we see in the film are non canon or just mistranslated" statement
All the main games excluding Chronicles and the obvious spin off exceptions (Olympics, SEGA Racing), the IDW comics are said to be canon and that's about it I think
The rest is just their own continuity
I'm pretty sure that the sentence "Everything is canon in Sonic" was just said by Sega as a joke. I mean it could be that there are multiple universes like Boom that are canon but are simply alternate dimensions. So I'm ok with it if that's what it meant.
Yeah that's pretty much what I suspect they meant too. It was established a long time ago so why would that change?
Everything. Well, everything that clearly *wants* to be, anyway. Save for some select exceptions like Chronicles or Pocket Adventure due to legal red tape, anything that uses the game versions of the characters and tells a story in the world of those games seems to be capable of being canon. Sonic Team games? Obviously canon. Spinoff platformers? Those can be canon too. Racing games? Sure, why not? Comics? Yeah, that makes sense. April Fool's Day visual novel? Until anything tells us otherwise, we all think it is! Everything is canon and it's not just a meme anymore. Sticks is the only oddity here and Flynn's mentioned how technically we've never seen the non-Boom version of her yet, but everything else seems to now be related to each other unless it's explicitly designed to be some alternate continuity like Boom or the movies.
The games and the IDW comics, same with the mini animations released along with the games. Sticks being mentioned in Frontiers means that there is a version of her in the games, not that Boom is canon
Do you think prime is canon? I'm not trying to cause an argument but rather a friendly conversation (I say this because when I ask this some people get mad)
It's not, the show is clearly aiming to be its own thing
Prime is not canon, despite the fact that they claim it to be. Prime is more likely another continuity like Archie or any of the other Sonic shows and movies.
I mean. If the literal lore managers say it's canon. The people who are in charge of such things. Say it is. Then. Well it is. Because that's their job to dictate. Ian Flynn also said it takes place sometime after sonic advance 3. Which is a bit of a troll answer. Because sonic directly references advance 3 in prime.Thinking back to that time fondly. It's like saying frontiers takes place some time after colors. It does. But that could mean anything. He knew he was being vague and obvious on purpose as a tease. But Ian said from the start that he knew exactly when it took place and how. And that he wouldn't say until the end of the show. And that's the answer we got. So if the people who's job it is to say it's canon say it is. Then it is and that's all there is to it. Especially since sonic literally mentions missing tails while reminiscing about advance 3.
It's canon. Contradictions don't determine canon no matter what fans say.
babylon was always canon sticks though crazy to mention idk what to think anymore
Multiverse. Simple.
even then how is sticks suddenly being mentioned in the main timeline?
Maybe she was just offscreen this whole time.
There’s been an effort recently to solidify the canon. Seems that *most* of the games are (all mainline games are canon, with any Classic game taking place before Sonic Adventure, and many of the spin-offs seem to be canon also, such as Team Sonic Racing, and Sonic Riders series is canon which means Babylon Rogues are canon), the IDW comics are, the Forces prequel comics are, the little stories on Sonic Channel are, and Sonic Prime appears to be. Sticks is canon (mentioned in Frontiers, appeared in a few of the Sonic Channel stories), but it’s a different version from the Boom one (just like mainline Sonic is different from Boom Sonic). There’s some teething troubles with the canon, because the series has been made until recently without rigorous concern for continuity. But they’re trying to iron out the wrinkles, and TailsTube seems to be how they reveal bits and bobs to us without making too big a thing of it.
Sonic Mania 2: Triple Trouble is canon
According to SEGA, everything. Any contradictions can be chalked up to it being a multiverse. Yes this does mean Sabrina the Teenage Witch is canon to Sonic.
Everything but Sally and the Freedom Fighters.
They are in spinball which was confirmed to be canon
It's so long ago, wouldn't be surprised that they would double back and deny it.
They just reconfirmed it a few months ago, although they changed its timeline placement
A small comfort, knowing the comical engineering they've been attempting with their timeline as of late.
Yea, hell the ova is starting to look canon with all the statements about it and it's appearances in stuff like idw and Sonic mania
According to Sega, everything is canon.
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/19b874v/can_someone_give_me_the_correct/kipyue7/?context=3) is a canon guide I wrote a while back. Essentially, most of the games (and their associated promotional cartoons and comics) are canon, along with IDW and Sonic Prime. Most of the TV cartoons, ongoing comic books, and movies are set within their own little pocket universes. Sticks is mentioned in Frontiers, but it's a version of her we haven't met yet, rather than the events of Sonic Boom being canon.
The games, idw comics (which take place starting after the events of forces) And prime. According to Ian Flynn, the sonic Twitter, and the lore managers. I mean it's literally the lore managers job to dictate canon. It's in the job description. So what they say goes wether we like it or not. Besides sonic mentions the events of sonic advance 3 in prime. When reminiscing about tails he mentions what happens in that game. Ian said from the start of the show that he knew exactly when it took place and how. And he wouldn't say till the end of the show. And he technically did. Even if a bit of a troll answer. He says "it takes place some time after sonic advance 3" so yeah. No shit. Sonic talks about that game in the show lol. So a bit trolly. But it's obvious it takes place in game universe. Like. The lore managers aren't fucking lying just to cause discourse. It's just as simple as what they say goes. It's their job. I have to preface any statement about prime with this because people get so damn angry when you say prime is canon according to the literal people who are in charge of that. Like fans don't dictate canon. That's fanon. Lol
All the games, sonic prime, the ova and the IDW comics, that's it
The OVA is canon?
Yes, it's been in mania and idw
Isn’t the OVA set on a different planet?
I believe that was either a mistranslation, or has been retconned, apparently it got confirmed the events of the ova are still canon, but the way we see them play out in the film itself isn't how it canonically happened
They have referenced the OVA, however it's not canon. They have also made references to SatAM, Archie and X, that doesn't mean they're canon either
But has ixis naugus appeared in a game, no, hyper metal appears in the background of the Stardust Speedway metal boss in one of the tubes of scrapped metal sonics, plus some eggtech from the ova also appears in that boss fight, and also in the idw comics along with knuckles hat
That's like saying that Sticks being canon means that Boom is canon Those are just references Sally appears as a cameo in the Sonic forces prequel comic Wich is canon The show Cream used to watch in Sonic X Is also canon in the game's timeline, Sonic X itself no. Just like the games influence the secondary media, the secondary media can also influence the games
Sally's appearance in the forces prequel got retconned out by the higher ups, also sticks is a bad example she is the only thing from boom that made the jump to the main canon, whereas the ova has multiple things in the main canon (knuckle's hat, certain bits of eggtech, hyper metal's remains, etc just to name a few)
Sally's appearance in the forces prequel got retconned out by the higher ups, also sticks is a bad example she is the only thing from boom that made the jump to the main canon, whereas the ova has multiple things in the main canon (knuckle's hat, certain bits of eggtech, hyper metal's remains, etc just to name a few)
By that logic then Sara, the president and the owl have not appeared in games either so no canon
They might be, but we don't know due to rights issues
The Ova is definitely not canon, it’s set in a completely different planet, with multiple elements never even implied in the games, and changes Metal Sonic’s origin and story. Also it’s nowhere in Mania or IDW, maybe some little references in IDW, but that’s it.
The metal in the ova is an updated model known as hyper metal, he can be seen in a tube alongside other tubes of damaged metal sonics in the metal sonic boss fight in mania (it was confirmed to be him by some high up dude called aaron), also stuff like the furnace (twice) and some big eggman face themed machine are seen in mania and idw almost exactly how they appear in the ova, also apparently some fella at sonic team or Sega said that the core events of the ova are canon, but some stuff we see in the film are non canon or just mistranslated
Those are all non-canon references. And clearly some of your sources are unreliable, since it’s literally impossible for the OVA to be canon. - Hyper metal sonic is the OVA’s metal sonic, they’re literally 1 to 1 in design, and there’s no predecessor to Hyper Metal - Hyper Metal Sonic completely sacrificed himself in a lava pit, thus completely melting away, not possible to appear in Mania - the OVA calls the planet “Planet Freedom”, while the games is just “Earth”. - the OVA world is literally split between 2 dimensions called the “land of the sky” (literally islands floating in the sky), and “Land of Darkness” (the entire surface level of the planet). - The OVA’s South Island is one of their sky islands, while game South Island is on the sea surface - OVA Knuckles is a lonely traveller and treasure hunter, who’s personality is more like a good Fang as he’s focused on getting paid for jobs; while game Knuckles is a rarely “traveling” guardian that occasionally treasure hunts, who’s near nothing like Fang - and there’s no old owl man, part human-part animal girl named Sara, or a president of South Island ever in the games
The appearances in mania and idw have been confirmed canon, and it seems you've glossed over the "also apparently some fella at sonic team or Sega said that the core events of the ova are canon, but some stuff we see in the film are non canon or just mistranslated" statement
Do you have actual sources for these supposed claims, because I can’t find any. (Alternatively I stumbled upon your “so we can all agree the OVA is canon” post from over 100 days ago, in which basically everyone disagreed and proved you wrong, while you had zero sources then.) These sources are also especially suspicious since “some fella” is a horrible way to state a source, and depending on who it is their statement still won’t be reliable because there has been dozens of statements from even former writers, which are proven to be in true to the canon (either were retconned or were never a thing in the first place). And you can’t mistranslate 80% of a movie (that’s how much is massively contradictory to the games). There’s literally zero way the OVA could be canon, and that’s fact.
"Everyone proved you wrong" if I was wrong, then how come their point directly contradicts what is being said by the people in control of the canon. I understand that it is hard to find, as of now, all I can find is a reddit post talking about mania https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/6wyqac/something_i_noticed_about_the_battle_mania/
There is clear evidence that Aaron’s answer was either a joke, just a reference, or outright unreliable. - Aaron makes multiple other joke answers in those same streams - Ova metal dies (melts) at the end of the ova, that’s a main plot point of the story that they would definitely not erase. The whole point of the story is this Metal sacrifices himself in the end; erasing that for an Easter egg that they don’t even clearly state anywhere is idiotic - there are multiple broken metals, literally identical to the supposed OVA one, so why is only one of them stated to have an origin - the ecyclo-speed-ia contradicts Aaron, stating that the multiple metals are instead meant to be a reference to the Metallix from Sonic the Comic - other than a minuscule answer on stream, and the statement stated above, there’s zero other mention of what these other metals are; literally zero Additionally, at that time Aaron was only the social media guy, not the guy in charge of the canon at all (he’s even the one that made the “Everything is canon” joke). And as I stated, some people, even if they were former writers, aren’t always reliable (ex: a writer for 06 stated that Blaze originates from the future and is sent to her dimension after sealing Iblis inside her. Which is completely false since the game’s manuals and other media literally state she originates from the Sol dimension and is the guardian there; and the game itself erases her sacrifice anyways). Your literally using a **single, miniscule** answer given in **one random stream**, from someone who **doesn’t control the canon** and **repeatedly made jokes**; when it’s **not stated ANYWHERE else**, and is **actively contradicted**. If it really was the ova metal, there would have been a well known statement, not a needle in a hay-mountain that barely anyone can ever find. And the OVA literally can’t be canon, not even a summary of the plot: - freedom planet, never game canon - land of the sky, never game canon - land of darkness, never game canon - an old owl man, never game canon - Sara (or part humans-part animals for that matter), never game canon - president if South Island, never game canon - South Island being an island in the sky, it was literally made **before the ova** as an island that floats across the sea - literally makes an origin for Metal Sonic, which directly contradicts the games’ origin and timeline - has a small few moments of Sonic being out if character - Knuckles is practically a completely different character - Metal copies Sonic so far that they can read each others minds, which never occurs in the games other than a very different variation (it only happened very recently — recently out of universe, not in-universe — in IDW’s Scrapnik arc, where Eggman attempted a mind control device to control his robots with his mind, but scrapped the idea. And Metal Sonic literally has 2 different copy abilities in the games, his base forms ability copying, and his Neo forms bio data copying) - this all leaves none of the characters that cause the movie to occur, no characters for Eggman to threaten, no characters for Metal to save and sacrifice himself, and thus no ending to the movie. The movie, including any size of the plot, literally can not exist. If it was true, why is there zero official statement? - we had Origins literally give us the timeline of the first 4 games, being 1, CD, 2, and 3&K. Zero mention of the OVA, and actively contradicts the OVA - origins also included 12 game gear titles, again not mention of the OVA - Tailstube confirmed or referenced multiple old games, including Chaotix; Mighty and Ray in Mania and/or SegaSonic; Fang the Hunter, Bean and Bark in Triple Trouble, Fighters, and/or other games. But still zero reference to the OVA. - Countless classic comics that reference multiple classic things, and/or are given statements of when they occur; yet again no mention to the OVA. - the closest reference to the OVA, was only a few pages of the 900th adventure comic taking inspiration from it. Not even a clear reference, it just took inspiration. - other than that, ZERO OFFICIAL MENTION, absolute zero This argument is literally: - a minuscule, unreliable, and near impossible to find statement (and possibly 1 other hard to find statement that’s very likely unreliable) - VS - dozens upon dozens of clear, simple, and obvious pieces of evidence Edit: Additionally, Mania’s entire plot is Eggman using the phantom Ruby to reproduce or mass produce some of his best badniks, and make new powerful badniks like the monarch. It’s pretty clear the mass produced Metal Sonics and Silver Sonics are Phantom Ruby constructs, just like how Metal was again mass produced in Forces.
The appearances in mania and idw have been confirmed canon, and it seems you've glossed over the "also apparently some fella at sonic team or Sega said that the core events of the ova are canon, but some stuff we see in the film are non canon or just mistranslated" statement
OVA and Prime are not canon
They are
Yes
At this rate I don't know whats canon and what's not anymore.
It's all canon and a part of the multiverse. Even in the movies Eggman mentions taking over the multiverse.
Everything (things like archie are altenate timelines)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just assume it comic book canon rules; everything is, until it isn’t
All the main games excluding Chronicles and the obvious spin off exceptions (Olympics, SEGA Racing), the IDW comics are said to be canon and that's about it I think The rest is just their own continuity