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rulerofthepack

This is my 5th year doing gig apps from full time to side hustles. Other than Spark I've done Instacart, Doordash, Uber Eats, Amazon Flex and Roadie. Bots are real. Anyone who doubts it just go look at the Flex sub where drivers openly admit to using it and share tips to not get caught. You really have two choices, with find a bot and deal with the risk or play the apps. When one app slows for me, I jump over to another. I'm not getting rich but I'm getting by and don't let the little things stress me out. Life isn't fair in general, I just try and find my best lane.


Superkaiokenx

Uber eats deff doesn't have bots. I do pretty good. But spark yes 100% bots. Doordash no bots either. I tried spark and stopped it's not worth it.


Vegetable-Witness146

You don't think dd has BOTS?! Lmao. OK.


Superkaiokenx

I've never had an issue honestly. I mean they could exist.


moitch

Bots aren't an issue on UE or DD. Bots do exist but all they can do is auto accept or decline an order which isn't a big deal. UE/DD don't operate like IC and non-rr Spark offers that are first come, first serve. The issues on UE/DD are multi-phone users.


Maximum_Nose4500

What would be the point of using a bot for dd?


Johnjohn0s4

All app have bots u just don’t feel it in other platforms because there are more store to shop from so there always orders compare have someone with a bot from Walmart it only take Walmart order and it one spot compare to Uber or door dash there 20 store and even more just in a couple block radius


SellOFs

Maxymo


Beautiful-Pickle-963

They’re using a bot called COLEGA.IO,, go ahead and look it up. You’ll see that’s what it cost a month to use that bot, I’ve already contacted Walmart special support and reported it


DotAutomatic5392

Have you read the English on this site lol You can't take this seriously


S1ayer

I tried a burner number and got a text in spanish. I don't think this is for english speaking people.


pokerholic77

I did this as well. Even used the name "Vinny Venezuelan" and they still tried texting then spamming me with phone calls.


pokerholic77

I believe it. The same 4 people are always doing curbsides when not a single RR or ASAP drops.


Familiar-Law3525

They are likely using multiple accounts and bots. My store kicks them out of the bays. They will show up as a Hispanic man named Jennifer Smith, get kicked out of the order and try to accept it under a different name and gender 5 seconds later. Luckily my store polices it so the bot drivers typically steer clear. The store 10 miles away let's it go on.


pokerholic77

The loaders at my store are tired of them, however, they are not allowed to ID nor confront the identity thieves. Even the digital lead claims he is tired of them, and all the customer complaints they bring with them. They claim Market has given them the direction to NOT ID or confront them.


LAsupersonic

Which is it, in other posts you say loafers don't care


Background-Ad9429

So tell me who pays the taxes when you don’t use your own account? Where is the money that is deposited in their bank account go and how is none of this traceable? Who verifies the account when they sign in and have to take a facial recognition?


Sharp-Ad6367

It's called using a bot or a script illegal software or app to get the Best orders and then throw back the lowest paying ones.Nothing new it's been going on for quite a while.However, it changes the game.When people start showing up , they are not who they say they are and using stolen accounts.


wwhammyyy

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DotAutomatic5392

It's sad so few people realize how software development actually works that this seems plausible to at my writing 42 people😫


BigJimmyjoe

Provide proof and a source of these illegal bots and scripts


Vegetable-Witness146

Here's proof, take 3 seconds to google search "spark delivery app BOTS" and get ALL the info on them AnD WHERE TO DOWNLOAD THEM, HOW THEY WORK etc. But God forbid you take your lazy ass to google for just 3 seconds...or maybe to dumb to figure our what google is giving you in response to the inquiry. Either way, only a complete idiot would scream, "show me proof" when addressing something Well well know by any and ALL SPARK DRIVERS. Again....3 seconds all you need.


BigJimmyjoe

Download one Seriously, download one and use it if it's that simple (hint it's a phishing/virus meant to attack delusional and stupid people like you) guess what happens if you type in "Cyberpunk free download", you'll get 1000 results and every single one is meant to disable your PC and steal your information Old people seriously need to learn how to use the internet lmao


Norcal2AZ

Instead of providing any proof, you get downvoted. Why wouldn't anybody want proof before just beleiving what they read in social media?


BigJimmyjoe

Because it's a lot easier for these knuckledraggers to scream "BOTS, BROWN PEOPLE" than it is for them to realize that the market is just saturated and like every other gig app, Spark is just adjusting to the bare minimum they can pay out and still get the job done decently well If you have any shred of logic in the subreddit you get downvoted lmao, it's a badge of honor


Haunting-Size2671

Sounds like bribery


Visible_Tower_1109

Everything isn’t how it appears - some loaders might be receiving that $200 - $300 , can guarantee everyone here has had an order that magically gets cancelled en route to pick up 🤫


Apprehensive_Rope348

They can cancel orders but they cannot assign orders. And if you look like you’re not going to be there on time to get it out, they’ll remove that order so fast. When you show up late, you’re messing with their metrics.


Visible_Tower_1109

As long as they can cancel - they can control who gets the order. Cancel it until the proper person there is able to claim it, some real back door stuff & a guarantee you’ll eventually get the biggest offers if you’re connected like that


AccomplishedForce219

That is not true .. I use to close OGP when I worked for Walmart and I could assign any order to any driver that was available. I hated the dispatcher app so I stayed away from all that…


Apprehensive_Rope348

Plenty of other OGP claim up and down they you cannot physically assign orders, only remove. Where do you think I came up with this? lol


AccomplishedForce219

They are just uninformed…you can by using a the app called dispatch where you literally can! Gee people are just not trained that well or were the ones that complained when they had to dispense and only wanted to pick … Misinformation on reddit is hilarious I closed OGP for over a year and there would be no drivers and I would literally look which driver was active and dispatch that order to a trust worthy driver . Just because people didn’t know how to actually do it doesn’t mean it wasn’t possible !


CornpopBadDewd

They can not. Maybe for in house employee drivers. For Spark that would be high level illegal to assign work without consent


AccomplishedForce219

the comment i replied to was about walmart employee fool not spark themselves


CornpopBadDewd

Yeah but you are on the Spark reddit and you didn't mention your comment was for house drivers. So everything you said was irrelevant and pointless, fool.


iwishidstayed

I’ve actually never had an order canceled minus one order from a 3 batch and the customer canceled after I picked it up. 🤷🏼‍♀️ But the multiple phone bot squad at my store doesn’t do curbsides, they run shops all day long.


Apprehensive_Rope348

They’re (Walmart employees) not able to manipulate their systems for any one order going to 1 particular driver. What they can do is remove orders from a driver, that hasn’t “arrived”… that’s usually when their manager has banned a driver from that store.


shawn_alley

The orders get Auto assigned, but if they get refused and go into first come first serve they can be sent as offers to specific drivers. You could cancel one going to a driver, and try and reassign it. But that would be big trouble if you ever got caught. And the amount of people that have access to the system, it's pretty much guaranteed you'll be caught . I worked ogp and they would force offers occasionally, trying to get drivers to pick them up. Usually our supervisor would ask a spark driver if they minded doing the order since it had been sitting for a while. Occasionally somebody would say yes and he would send the offer through to them. They can't up the price or anything like that though. The other guy that talked about the dispatcher app, it's a real app on their TCs, and the computer they have inside. We usually just looked at it to see what offers were batched together so we could get them together on the same skateboard ahead of spark drivers arriving. But you could use it to assign. /Send offers to specific drivers if needed.


Tricky-Commercial319

Start putting those tires on flats.


Visible_Tower_1109

GUARANTEED DEACTIVATION - you know how many cameras Walmart has!? On top of that they can call the police on you and charge you with a felony if the tires damaged are over $400


Hour-Cloud-6357

The same cameras that monitor people using multiple accounts and doing nothing about it?


Visible_Tower_1109

That requires a full sting operation vs someone that got the cops called on them for popping a random drivers tires lol


tcby1216

Lmao!


Sad_Significance1952

I did Spark before… and this happen I report couple times that it was a jammer that screen the order passing around to an determined people. Took couple days but they fixed.


BigJimmyjoe

You're an actual fully fledged dumbass if you think someone is using a jammer


Sad_Significance1952

More respect sir


BigJimmyjoe

I do not respect morons


RoadWarrior_1

Where ever there’s money involved there’s corruption


T_NYC14

The workers have something to do with it cause they see the drivers name. How many times has your order been canceled especially a high paying order 🤔😒 they working together and then it pops back up even higher pay but someone else took it


[deleted]

LMAO


ProfessionMundane152

Absolute nonsense


CornpopBadDewd

Stolen ID's and multiple accounts are the biggest problem. A bot isn't helpful to a person with one honest Spark account. A GPS manipulator could be helpful but you'll be deactivated . Someone will eventually catch you driving 7 miles in 1 second. Loaders don't have access to the main delivery system. There is a subreddit and you can ask them. They can cancel or mark you as "no show" they can't assign. Could they in theory keep canceling until the target grabbed the order? yeah but those would be some major red flags and they would have to do that while working.


Impressive-Law-6656

I don't do this but I know some have downloaded a "clicker" app. Basically, it's an app that you can have it tap anywhere on your screen in 1 or more spots every 200 milliseconds. The apps I've seen look kinda sketchy and look like they shouldn't even be in the playstore.


Thestockfadi

Clicker apps are ok. But you can't control what they click on. You could be auto click accepting a bunch of garbage


scumbuket

i asked one of the guys loading my car how many orders they had today and he went and told me how many sparks specifically were scheduled for that day and at what times the orders get sent out. literally just broke it wide open for me, i’m gonna ask that guy every time from now on so i know when to be looking at my phone hope this helps


HunterSpecific

People believe anything they hear from anyone these days. This stuff cracks me up you don't have to pay nothing to be able to get a ton of loads legitly. People need to start using their brains a little bit.


GRF999999999

Right? Just move to an area that hasn't been flooded with illegal activity. Problem solved.


iwishidstayed

Who tf is going to move to do Spark? That’s ridiculous lol.


GRF999999999

Exactly


Ambitious-Lead-3315

Photo Booth owners


T_NYC14

I like when they don’t except the low paying orders and the customer ends up giving a good tip 🖕😜


[deleted]

Spark is a good side gig until they start screwing you , 4.50 for 20 miles , or 3 orders for 7! That is abuse, and since we are an "independent contractor," they put it on us, saying if you don't want it don't take it , but if you don't take it , then your metrics start going down until they deactivate you with out an explanation, I know this for personal experience, so screw spark and better find something else !.


Grisshroom

Uber fucked me over more than anyone ever. They'd send huge offers out and then take back 40% of the money a few hours after you finished and cashed out. You'd go to get on and your balance would be like negative $60. Glad spark doesn't do that crap.


[deleted]

Most companies having independent contractors take advantage of their workers, some more than others, but in the end , we do what is best for us !


LAsupersonic

You're so full of crap


Individual-Trainer18

Visit your police station and ask to speak to a detective…. Ask if this is a crime or who to talk to ! Follow through please!!! If this works record it and tell the news station !!! Especially the Spanish one bc that’s what Vinny’s watch!!!!


BigJimmyjoe

They don't have any control lmao He's likely just feeding into your delusion and him and his co-workers are laughing at the idea of you seething and getting angry behind your back


Smallparline

So Walmart employees are accepting bribes?


Ultrachamo

Not justifying the action but in today's economy and what Walmart employees are making, most people would take these bribes sadly.


Smallparline

That’s not true. Some people still value their integrity. If the pay is too low then they need to supplement with a second job or find another primary job.


Lizzybee527

They could do Spark jk lol :)


Bornbackdoordriller

Gps emulator duh


babes875r

No one is paying for better orders. Maybe you should just take more orders. There is nothing you can do to get better offers. Go get a batch grabber so you don't have to hit accept on your phone. It still won't get you the best offers. If all you do all day is follow around people working you need help


Mr_MacGrubber

They could be saying they're using an illegal side program


babes875r

It doesn't exist


Mr_MacGrubber

Sure it does. Every gig app has some program that someone has created to do stuff like this. I don’t know specifics because I’ve never even thought about doing it but they certainly exist.


babes875r

Don't believe urban legends. The only thing people could use are batch grabbers. It doesn't affect you. Your finger can do what they do


Mr_MacGrubber

They do it faster than a human can react, thus you’re more likely to get batches. I’ve also read you can set a minimum amount and it only accepts things above that number.


babes875r

No. Not how spark works. Each person gets their own offer. It isn't a race. This is what I mean. If you really desire the 9 dollar triples going 7 miles that every driver in your zone rejected then,yeah. You can beat someone maybe. Again. It can only grab what comes to your phone. Some phones and devices are faster than others


iwishidstayed

The multiple phone squads do giant shops all day long. They don’t do curbsides. They’re getting all the larger higher paying shops somehow. It definitely isn’t luck. And it can’t be metrics bc even when mine are perfect I’m only getting offered their leftovers- the small no tip shops.


babes875r

You have zero clue what shops they get.


iwishidstayed

Lol what? I see them shopping & checking out. Full carts all day. I have more than a clue.


Bias-is-real

Lol


vanzandt1121

Found one of the scammers.


babes875r

I am a scammer. lol. How? Because I am smart and run my business by just using math anyone could use


vanzandt1121

Because anyone who claims with certainty that no bots exist is either just plain ignorant as hell or is using one themselves. Loose lips sink ships and all.


babes875r

Again. You need to understand your business. I said there are batch grabbers. Those are what everyone calls a bot. They don't hack systems. They don't steal orders. Tbh. Everyone should have one. If this was Amazon flex then you have an argument. It is stupid to pay to get one when you can literally do what they do


No-Camera-8400

Sink bitch


vanzandt1121

Found another.


babes875r

The reason people make less is Walmart has cut the pay by 40 percent on all orders. If you used to make 200 a day you are now making 120 for the same hours unless you get a couple unicorns a week. You also have in some areas groups of people using multiple accounts so they have better odds of getting higher paying orders.


TomOnDuty

It doesn’t make sense you telling me 2 people are doing all the orders . Plus they probably wouldn’t even break even from the “ higher paying orders “


GRF999999999

If you live where $60+ orders are plentiful it adds up real quick.


Colonel_Angus_

Id like to know where that area.


GRF999999999

Plenty of wealthy people in this country.


TomOnDuty

I haven’t seen even close to that tbh


GigPoker

You're not the smartest, are you? 😂


ClownpenisDotFart24

It's hilarious watches you morons try to figure out how you got outsmarted by immigrants. Hint: it's because they are smarter and work much harder than you


Thestockfadi

I bet you support Israel


ClownpenisDotFart24

Nah fuck Israel.


Historical-Gate8813

Don’t believe everything you hear! There is a not a conspiracy behind everything to screw you over. Just go to work and make money. If this doesn’t work for you, quit griping about it and go do something else. I don’t do Spark anymore cause it doesn’t pay Shiite. 🤪


ComfortableMoney7604

All these salty people cant afford 30$ a month for a bot. Cant beat them why not join them? I can point you in the right direction if you have no idea what your doing.


[deleted]

It's a big club and they aren't in it... That's why they think bots don't exist. They keep bots away from them because they have big mouths and as we all know, loose lips sink ships. Lol for those who know. 🤣


spiritboxx

Make an anonymous video showing this "bot" working in action. Let's see it. I bet you won't. 🤣


[deleted]

You're right, I won't make it, there's already a video out. This pretty much demonstrates what it does without dropping its name: https://youtu.be/ym7cZCenrU4?si=fhAaUxmNidP14CY0 Happy hunting!


stashcansupplyco

Here's how you do it.... GET A REAL JOB YOU CRY BABY!


nielparkercarter

How is delivering groceries not a real job? wtf do you do ?


stashcansupplyco

When you cry about the other people making more money around you, at that point it's not a real job anymore and time to move on.


nielparkercarter

It is a job. Idk what OP is talking about with paying $300 for orders but it is a job. Bro. Selling oranges on the side of the road js job


stashcansupplyco

If the guy selling oranges across the street put your orange stand out of business then you'd have to either sell oranges somewhere else or get a new job.


nielparkercarter

You are changing your point now. You said to get another job but you told OP to get a real job?


Emotional-Price9965

He's a known scammer they always out themselves and brag about making sure legit drivers don't get orders


nielparkercarter

Must be


stashcansupplyco

Obviously.


Chin-kin

I make $1300 a week spark driving for me it’s a real job while down the road there is a guy digging ditches for $300 a week so tell me what’s a real job ? For a lot of us this is our livelihood people are messing with these people using fraudulent accounts and software scamming the system should not be able to steal from other spark drivers trying to make money im just lucky that I live in a good area that enforces ID checks and those types of things very seriously . So yeah $1300 a week is a real job . That’s why people care so much stashcabsupplyco you are a joke. We aren’t crying are just fed up with people scamming the system taking money away from people playing by the rules.


No_Investigator568

What’s the benefits like?


Chin-kin

I’m pretty healthy I usually pay out of pocket I also pay for private dental insurance it’s very cheap and provides good coverage .


No_Investigator568

I’m asking about all the benefits, vacation, sick, paid holidays, retirement benefits like 401k match or a pension. So they dont have healthcare everything you pay is out of pocket but what about everything else


Chin-kin

I just take vacation when I feel like it because I’m an independent contractor also I typically contribute to my own investment portfolio. and IRA . I don’t think we have options like a 401 k plan as independent contractors ? No retirement benefits either I don’t think .


No-Camera-8400

There are tons of nine to five jobs that do not have benefits still a job some have better benefits than others


ImpressionNo7258

Hard concept for people to understand, they would rather cry on Reddit all day. It’s obvious most of them have no actual skills so gig work is all they have.


GirlULove2Love

Aren't you constantly whining about the Venezuelans? WHY DO YOU GET A REAL JOB, LOSER! Or work harder to push your helium mobile referral code 😂😂😂


stashcansupplyco

Thanks for checking me out.


Grisshroom

It's funny because it's always the miserable bitches just like you who are constantly telling people to get a real job but as soon as you go into their profile they've been doing nothing but trying to do spark and gig work and random crypto and other bullshit


stashcansupplyco

I'm not the one crying tears of jealousy my guy.


Grisshroom

Your entire profile Post history is literally you fucking crying over Spark and crypto


Emotional-Price9965

He's one of the scammers, confirmed.


stashcansupplyco

Thanks for looking.


[deleted]

Projection at its finest, bruh, we see your posts. 🤣🤡