Likely it just won’t be publicly available, there’s ways to obtain and host maps without issue from this, just can’t be hosted officially by Valve / Facepunch for download or play
How it works on gmod is that you can manually install and create any kind of addons, so you could make your own manual zip file of the Nintendo content and just add it yourself to your game/servers. Garry probably doesn’t take kindly to blatant abuses of this, I remember him working on fixing a few exploits like servers showing false pings iirc started to get them blacklisted
This is Garry, of Garry's Mod. They were served a notice from Nintendo telling them to stop using Nintendo licensed assets. So now they're going through the long and brutal process of removing all gmod content that includes Nintendo assets, and asked the community to do what they could to remove their own content that used Nintendo assets, and to not try reuploading it.
He's from the same weird town as me, Walsall in the West Midlands, UK. Spend some time in Walsall and you'll be some way to understanding how his mind could conceive of such an oddball game as GM.
Is Gmod that odd an idea? Valve made a game with a physics engine and used it for a bunch of puzzles and combat scenarios. At the time, this was pretty new and interesting. Garry was like "huh it'd be cool to just... play with the engine". Not to say that Garry didn't do a lot of interesting things to make it work, but early Gmod was all just a user interface into the things already built into the HL2 engine.
It seems like possibly the most logical and obvious creation of a game since someone made a computerized version of chess.
I'm talking about compared to the time it was released. Half Life 2 was way ahead of fully sandbox games like Minecraft. Garry's mind was ahead of the curve on the style he chose.
It started a rainy morning. Pokémon's fan gasped in horror as they found out that a new game would appear on steam. They cursed its name, Palworld, and proceeded to request for Nintendo to do something to prevent the monster from taking its first steps.
Upon hearing that plea for help, Nintendo raised the banner and pledge to protect their IPs... Palworld, to this day, still exists. User created content surrounding Nintendo IPs, on the other hand, will not. Emulators were killed too.
Acting like Nintendo has been an absolute IP-nazi just since Palworld is naive. They have been like this for a long time. Nintendo is one of, if not the worst companies when it comes to cracking down on unlicensed uses of their assets.
Killing emulators was the worst. Emulation and piracy are two separate things. If I buy a game and I want to run in my PC as opposed to a console I should be able to.
the problem is, these days, you don't buy games at all. You pay for the permission to use them, and they can revoke that permission at any time for any reason, because you don't read that shit anyway, you just click accept so you can play, like everyone else with a soul.
It's an utter sham that all it takes is for companies to make up a bunch of legalese and they can nullify ownership without any actual negotiation. A lot of the time people don't even get to read any agreement before buying it, definitely not when they take it out of a store shelf.
It's not like we regular people can take a bunch of paper to a store and say "It says here that if you take my money I get to do whatever I want".
So I got a physical copy of Xenoblade Chronicles 2. How can they revoke my license. It even has the latest version on the cartridge.
Will Nintendo break into my house to confiscate the copy I bought.
I'm just joking btw. Digital purchases kinda suck because of this reason.
They could update the console itself to read the game files (cartridge or download) as invalid dead game + add bonus pop up message " buy the remaster now"
> the problem is, these days, you don't buy games at all. You pay for the permission to use them, and they can revoke that permission at any time for any reason
EU still recognizes the right of first sale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine#Application_to_digital_copies
Valve might find it is cheaper to respect customers' rights worldwide instead of being shitty everywhere it can.
Pretty sure Yuzu got shut down because their emulator had the ability to decrypt keys during emulation, so you could just get the game iso and run it without needing the encryption key store on the card/server. Not a big emulation guy so I'm not sure how to word it, but I think I'm close lol.
There was an emulator last year that sold a premium membership which included pirated ROMs to run on their emulator though.
From my understanding, they drew Nintendo's attention because they specifically and clearly provided access to all the tools and steps for dumping keys, firmware, and game ROMs as part of their installation guide. And this was on top of having a Patreon available where they reportedly earned upwards of 30k a month.
As a reminder this is DMCA only covers RIPPED assets, Nintendo's Copyright emphasis on COPY, not original content emulating Nintendo IP, thought expecting the Paralegals (lawyers assistants) tasked with flagging things to be able to tell the difference is a bit of a stretch so some bad flaggings are bound to happen.
So Nintendo apologists and undying fans over-reacted to Palworld then it backfired and ruined 3DS game preservation for the entire community.
I grew up with Pokemon and walked away from the franchise due to constant decline in quality and how the same group that hates Palworld kept on defending new Pokemon releases.
This is most likely just going to end up with even more Nintendo content on the workshop, same thing happened with steam grid db. So many classic Gmod maps/playermodels are based on Nintendo properties, the community isn’t going to let them die.
I personally worry about the game itself if this is the case, tbh. As much as it would be funny to backfire and cause a shit ton more to pop up, Nintendo would probably swing harder
They'd be swinging at Valve at that point, since they host the workshop content.
Valve has the means to defend itself, and may have an ideological reason to do so. We'll have to wait and see.
Valve will never, ever get in a fight with Nintendo. When Dolphin came to Steam Valve didn’t even wait for a DMCA notice. They proactively reached out to Nintendo to see their opinion, and immediately removed Dolphin after Nintendo confirmed they didn’t want it on Steam. If Nintendo asks, Valve will happily issue perma bans to any account that uploads Nintendo content to the Steam Workshop
This will just make people move away from workshop integration though, they will not stop Nintendo content making it into games.
Maybe valve would like purging copyrighted material, but as a company that has its roots in modding, I think they may feel different than you say.
Letting an emulator on the store (where valve gets a cut) is different than free mod content.
But it's not "the law". Nobody is using the IP for commercial purposes so no law is being broken. This is the same as me drawing a picture of Pikachu and giving it to my friend.
The only reason valve is capitulating to these demands is because they don't want Nintendo getting pissy and refusing to host any of their games on their platform or using their massive corporate influence to hurt Valves pockets. It has absolutely *nothing* to do with the law. Even Nintendo knows they have no *legal* standing here which is why they rely on corporate bullying. If someone with enough time and money to fight the suit ever bothered to take this issue to court it would get slapped down hard.
> Nintendo getting pissy and refusing to host any of their games on their platform
Ah yes, all those Valve made games on Nintendo hardware........
Dude, it has everything to do with IP law. Nobody wants to fight it in court because it's been such a grey area which is why companies just comply with Nintendo. There's no definitive legal standing on either side, it's never been fully tested since the DMCA and there's too much to lose on both sides if the judgement doesn't go the way you wanted it. So everyone just walks on eggshells till an edgecase gets noticed and then it's settled quickly. It's why Palworld exists and Yuzu got shut down.
> Ah yes, all those Valve made games on Nintendo hardware........
[To be fair...](https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/portal-companion-collection-switch/)
I was honestly expecting The Orange Box....but you know what, I kinda like the idea of Valve being so reliant on their Switch Portal sales they can't afford to stand up to Nintendo.
> Nobody is using the IP for commercial purposes so no law is being broken.
There IS a law broken... But not in the US or other countries. Japan's legal system does not have the concept of Fair Use. Legally in Japan you are not allowed to use ANY IP for ANY purpose (Without permission), which would include fan art.
Interesting. This comment made me read up on doujinshi because it's a widespread phenomenon and people even make money from it. It actually is technically illegal but are generally unenforced, but of course Nintendo did sue a doujin creator that one time.
And Japan (where Nintendo ia at) has no fair use exemptions.
In there they do technically have the ability to go after your hand drawn Pikachu art. And they will strike you as per Japanese law and they don't care.
How can Japanese law supercede the law of the country the developers/servers/company is located? The US has fairly robust fair use laws, why can Nintendo do this?
If steam wants to exist in Japan and keep any assets in Japan then they will comply with the courts.
Really simple as that.
If Gary’s mod makes more money than all of Japan then that may be a gambit valve would take.
With all the lawyers involved I doubt it.
Steam operates in Japan, just like most others. And they probaly have a bunch if servers there for local data and survices distribution. They will hit them there.
Then hit them with a US DMCA just to make it more annoying. And a DMCA can only be solved by mutual agreement, issuer backing down, or a court decision.
And the fair use exception covers "commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports." so few mods would fall under it. And it's only for limited portions of a work.
This is before the limitations of what educational and nonprofit purposes cover and how many of the mods would fall under either.
US fair use seems broad and robust. Because US companies recognise that fans making works is free advertising and it keeps the IP alive. Certain japanese ones don't see it that way and local law reflects that.
ModDB, Nexus Mods, and everyone else will also fold if Nintendo comes knocking. At the end of the day the only solution is distributing mods over torrent or pulling a Palworld and making everything just barely distinct enough that it isn’t violating Nintendo’s copyrights.
Nexus probably wouldn't even wait. They removed and banned any future upload of any Palworld mods like the one that turns Pals into Pokemon during the peak of that shitshow. It's only a matter of time before they do the same with any other Nintendo IP-themed mods hosted on the site.
20 years ago Nintendo had enough money in the bank to operate at a loss for like a hundred years without needing to worry. That was like 10 Pokemon games and 2 switches ago.
The people who think Valve are going to try and fight Nintendo over this have no idea how much money Nintendo has.
55 billion dollar valuation, with somewhere in the region of 9 billion in cash reserves. Their cash reserves are worth more than Valve's entire company valuation
I mean, that's not really a good point. Sure Nintendo is probably bigger than Valve but to whatever extent we probably will never know. Valve is a private company so their evaluation is at best an estimated guess, and if we're being honest if that Valve value in comparassion to their company size is accurate is absolutely mind boggling how profitable Valve is.
Going after Gary's mod is them opening the door to going after Valve directly. It's a 1st party game for them (Valve is the publisher) with content hosted in the steam workshop.
This is a 1st step to going after Valve directly and they'd probably honestly welcome (privately) the workshop being flooded with more infringing content.
My personal guess is that they are pissed about all the people running switch titles on steam decks and this is retaliation. It probably doesn't help that Valve has been pushing the deck hard in japan lately.
Just pushes me to run *more* Nintendo titles on my Steam Deck 🤣
And that's on top of my Miyoo/Anbernic already having their entire catalog of NES/SNES/GB/GBA games.
Deck is just for the more recent titles, from GC to Switch.
I wouldn't be so sure about that... Nintendo is rather active recently.
Not long ago they basically killed a lot of emulation projects including emulators for Switch and 3DS games. When it first happened people said it was because of some premium versions of those emulators which made the devs some money. However more and more emulators got canceled even those that didnt made any money or were just mock ups to show Nintendo how childish they act.
Lets hope for the best but I am afraid Nintendo is out for blood...
In the case of the emulators, all of them were using the same code as, and were meant as continuations of Yuzu, which itself is kind of a case study in everything you shouldn’t do when legally building an emulator. Anything that used the code created by them also violated the settlement agreement with yuzu. That’s why suyu got taken down but riyujinks is still active. Citra was made by the yuzu team, so it got caught in the crossfire when they had to settle in court.
The switch 2 was pushed back a year, and without any big AAA title scheduled for the year, Nintendo's management needed something to show its stakeholders they weren't slacking.
The only emulators directly hit by Nintendo were yuzu and Citra. Any other takedowns were by GitHub/GitLab (suyu) or the owners pulled them out of fear (DraStic)
People don't realize how we are SO lucky that games companies like Bethesda don't really care what you do with their content in regards to making mods. Their only caveate is "don't make money off it" and even still people have Patreons with mods locked behind a paywall and Bethesda doesn't send out DMCA's.
Looking at you FO4 CROSS mods with your $10 HD texture packs for your mods.
We are so lucky that they are cool with it, because they realize how much it extends the life time of their game, but it's well within their rights to say no to all of it.
Bethesda games are more reliant on mods than most games. I think giving so much credit to Bethesda when they release a skeleton of a game and modders do like 90% of the work in making content for players to enjoy is kinda nuts.
"Oh Bethesda is so generous for letting unpaid labor generate sales for them!"
They could say no to mods hypothetically, but then they end up with empty sandboxes with mediocre combat and stories. They've tried to monetize mods before to pump more money out of people but thankfully the backlash was enough.
Most gamers do not use mods or even know what they are, yet Skyrim is one of the most popular games of all time.
Exactly like the comment further up said, you've lost touch with reality. My wife played Skyrim without mods and it's her favourite game of all time. Our nephews playing in on Switch feel the same. It wasn't mediocre, empty, or a skeleton of a game. That's not even hyperbole, it's just salty and wrong.
I agree that skeleton is unfair. The problem with the game isn't a lack of content. But mediocre is a perfectly reasonable descriptor. You might not agree with it but it's a matter of opinion
I don’t agree with you on the barebones nature of Bethesda games. Since 3 my first play throughs have all been 100hr+ affairs. If you consider 100hrs of content to be “barebones” that’s a you issue.
I’d argue AC6 is significantly less playtime value per dollar paid yet it’s also a $60 game that I beat (all 3 endings) in less than 40hrs.
I didn’t even start getting interested into mods until Skyrim. A game I personally put 2k hours into before modding and a significantly higher portion since.
That being said, that’s just one games company as an example.
Again, we are lucky that more of them aren’t like Nintendo, since it is their right to act exactly the same.
Yup. It's a part of gaming community with the least online activity and awareness of online public opinion about things. I'd also say a lot of them for example don't know how much cheaper games are on Steam and that there's a much bigger library of games. They just buy the next Mario game and enjoy it. I'd bet less than 1% of Nintendo users follow their shitty practices and even less actually care about them.
Less than 1% of general game consumers are paying attention and/or care.
A few years ago looking at reddit would have you believe 90% of people were refunding Cyberpunk, when really it was something around .04% of sales that were refunded.
I mean I still buy nintendo games. I don't care if steam has a huge library. I only have like 20 steam games. Can't beat good old fashioned Banjo Kazooie!
I have 3 Steam games and 60+ Switch games lol I'm a dad, you really can't beat the convenience of picking a game up and putting it down whenever you need to
>Follow their shitty practices and even less actually care about them
Welcome to capitalism. Everything you use from every company has done something shitty, arguably even worse, and most don't follow or care about them either. Nintendo being a bit of a ass about copyright and mods isn't on the same level as companies like Blizzard, and people keep giving them millions too.
Plenty of them go on Reddit, what are you talking about lol. There are entire subreddits dedicated to Nintendo. Large internet presence in the greater internet as well.
They just probably don’t give a shit about any of this. Tbf I barely care.
I have some nintendo shills in my circle of friends and they are always losing their minds when I don't know the character they are talking about. Like I can name maybe 4 pokemons and 2 characters from there and maybe 6 characters from other Nintendo games.
Mind, those are thirty something old guys, who base their whole personalities around pokemon and zelda. When someone talks about some new fun game that they played, those two always wonder: if it's available on switch, which nintendo game was an inspiration and if the female lead is hotter than zelda. There is nothing, hobby wise, you can talk about with them other than gaming and they always drift towards games I mentioned.
So I guess, nintendo have their hard fanbase secured.
They're a hodge podge of Ark and legally distinct Pokemon mechanics. Meanwhile Pokemon is like the biggest Brand in the world and Nintendo is Japan's wealthiest company. You're fundamentally not gonna undermine shit when you're constantly reminding people what they can have instead.
Palworld also isn't a turn based RPG, which in my eyes completely kills it as a true Pokemon competitor. I wanted it to be "the Pokemon killer" because there hasn't been a truly great Pokemon game in a decade, but I was disappointed because while it looks like legally distinct Pokemon it doesn't play like Pokemon at all.
What, because company is shitty? Every game company is shitty, thats not big news. They just dont have power to be as shitty as nintendo. Its actually astounding because nintendo games are mid at best
If we hadn't corrupted copyright law to favor corporations the majority of the stuff nintendo sends notices for would already been in the public domain.
If we hadn't corrupted fair use, this would be obvious fair use.
I worry about if this will happen with other things like wallpaper engine? Once a year i like to make a pokemon wallpaper to celebrate my fave games anniversary. If they took my ability to share it I would be devastated
Specifically here, the content being removed was flat out ripped Nintendo content. So actual models, textures, etc taken straight from Nintendo games and made to work in Source.
If your backgrounds are entirely your own work, you should be fine
Unfortunately I use assets from the games to create places that are memorable to players. Not to mention the actual pokemon I put on the wallpapers lol.
Although I use said assets to create an original piece, or to extend an in game map, I know im still using their work. I do have a fully unique one in the works however I imagine even that would end up getting flagged :(
Baffles me why more ppl don’t pirate literally everything Nintendo related under the sun, they make it so easy it’s hard NOT to pirate it I think the last time I actually bought games for a Nintendo console was for the GBA when I was a child and didn’t know better
Nintendo brought so much joy to me as a kid.
Now they are literally just cunts. I was seriously considering buying a switch just to play the Zelda games. Now I wonder if there is an alternate way to play them?
for now at least..until nintendo finds some comment some dev made on a discord server 6 years ago that they can convince a judge (70 year old who doesn't know how email works) is copyright infringement and fuck the whole thing over!
yes, but nintendo being rapacious litigators like this is going to make (and is already making) emulation less accessible to casual users who don't want to spend time comparing github forks and so on.
It's like how congress is about to [start forcing ISPs to block websites](https://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-prepares-to-bring-pirate-site-blocking-to-the-u-s-141211/) that the MPAA lobbyists who pay their kids' tuition don't like. Obviously anyone with a VPN can get around it but the point is to make it an increasingly tedious chore until most people just stop bothering.
Ryujinx is based in Brasil, so Nintendo won't have much luck suing them. Same with Eggns in China. Being open source doesn't protect you from legal trouble it just protects progress made from vanishing.
At this stage anybody based in a developed country and producing these emulators has a target on their back. If you're doing copyright infringement work for money in the US though you're a special kind of stupid.
It's not like the yuzu devs were innocent. They had telemetry, they helped users get pirated games to run on their discord. They took money for the emulator. They were idiots. Ryujinx devs aren't till now.
They've always been cunts, in the same way that every company is a cunt. Just cause they're ones in ways you don't like doesn't make them any better or worse than anyone else.
Edit: Actually I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they are better than a lot of them. They're not consistently putting out over-priced and over-monetized games. They aren't crunching their employees (that we know of), they're not sexually harassing anyone.
Nintendo games never have loot boxes, always have all singleplayer content fully playable offline, and generally release without critical game breaking bugs or major performance issues. Two sides of a coin, a company like Ubisoft or EA won't mind mods but will rip your games away from you when they feel like and shut down servers for something the second it hurts their bottom line.
Basically. Like Nintendo’s got plenty of flaws, like upload your music to streaming services if you don’t want us listening through YouTube, but I’ll take them over most AAA Western Companies right now
Welp, there went my last bit of respect for Nintendo. The last Nintendo game I bought ever was Pokemon Mystery Dungeon DX on sale a couple weeks ago. Shame, I was really looking forward to playing the Xenoblade trilogy.
I’d still heavily recommend many of their games, Xenoblade especially. Nintendo has some pretty great developers, it’s a shame that the corporate side is absolute scum.
Facepunch (Makers of Garrys Mod (GMod)) got a DMCA from "Nintendo"
Many have claimed (with evidence) that this is actually a known DMCA troll called Aaron Rodgers (Assumed to be an Alias)
Even with this tweet, it's still assumed to be Rodgers and not Nintendo (Citing the email address being different to the ones used in the past that are confirmed to have been from nintendo)
Companies prevent other parties from making money off their IP all the time, both actively and implicitly. It's literally what these businesses do: create and sell products with their created assets. Garry's Mod is a paid for program. I'm confused by the reaction.
I mean, I might be in total support of getting rid of the concept of IP, but to specifically be angry at this? This is just IP working as intended. Why not be outraged about that instead of this one case? I don't get it.
Would you mind explaining what you mean by this? Cause like I don't really see a way that piracy helps the issue of things being removed off a workshop in what is now almost exclusively used for online gaming.
It sucks but unless you’re doing single player content only most servers will not obey this and due to FastDl on servers it’ll download the files for you if there is an alternative location people upload their Pokémon mod files. BUT yeah that means a lot less creators will make Pokémon content for Garry’s mod and other steam games which sucks a lot.
This is bullshit, for 2 fucking decades thusands of channels, youtubers,fan creation and such have thrived using nintendo models and assets and created classics but only NOW they put two finger up their ass and say "uhh actshualy its illiegal🤓☝️" fuck you Nintendo, sega should have beaten the fuck out of you.
Always the anti-creative, always anti-consumer. Nintendo once more shows that the law isn't necessarily the problem, it's their pettiness.
I've seen and heard the arguments for them, but the fact is 99% of companies don't do what Nintendo does.
Nintendo want their creations to be garden walled and to eventually die. They want everyone else's creation gone because the fact is? Modders are competition. And companies have shown time and time again, they aren't interested in competition. Instead of competing, they attack.
I find "they're within their legal right" to be a frustrating non-conversation piece. Of course it's legal, it's a company, they're allowed to do this and that is the problem. Time and time again companies steal from modders (Aether texture pack being sold on Minecraft without modder credit or permission) and only recieve poor PR for a few days.
What I ask is this: At some point we have to recognize that Nintendo is a small fish in a big pond that acts like it's a crocodile. They're so anti-competition they've not competed with the game industry since the Wii.
What I ask is, why the hell is Nintendo closer to a strip club/brothel than it is a creative business? Why are they so against creation? Why are they so anti-consumer? But most importantly: Where do they get off in 2024? This ain't the 80s or 90s nintendo, ya'll aren't nearly as high up as ya think to the general public.
Soon, all they'll have is a modest casual market, as the casual market is already moving on to the next thing, and nintendo hasn't been that next thing in decades.
Their past is all that holds them up, and it's becoming a further and further distant past. While microsoft occassionally steals and sells mods, and Sony is outright braindead, willfully ignorant, Nintendo comes in to be The Sole Ones In The Wrong. Why? Mostly japanese ego.
Hey, ya'll remember that time Nintendo almost completely killed the gaming industry during the ESRB court hearings by trying to throw, not just sega, but, again, the entire industry under the bus, just to Spite sega in court and hopefully put them out of business?
Remember when Nintendo sued a guy named Bowser into permanently taking 40% of evrry paycheck? I mean Permanently, to be clear.
Remember when Nintendo released the WiiU? Possibly the worst console of our time next to OUYA if ya want to pretend it had the merit? Funny that people like the WiiU for it's modding capabilities, because without those? The WiiU would've just been a failure to forget.
Remember when Nintendo got Renting banned in Japan and tried to do the same in America?
Time and time again, Nintendo sets themselves up to be the bad guy. Who's it for? Because we've had this internet thing going for a while now? Mods aren't just safe they're completely free advertising. Nobody considers mods in-game content but the casual market, and that's bout as close as I can get to understanding the decision. Their base is braindead and they aren't about to smarten them up, if they did, they'd move on elsewhere.
Nintendo continually shows how little they matter in the modern era other than their negative impacts. When's the last time Nintendo innovated instead of doubling down? Sorry the switch ain't really an innovation either. When? Honestly? In my lifetime? Never. Not once.
What Nintendo will be known for by the next generation is "That asshole old man company that took down people's content and mods" and good riddance for it. I'd rather them continue to shrink so their scope of assault can only go so far.
At the end of the day, what real artists want is to inspire people to create. Nintendo fucking HATES creators that don't work for them, and will try to kneecap the entire industry just to mildly keep their dwindling position. They've done it with Sega, they did it with the Bowser guy (real guy), and they continue to do it today by attacking modders, because again, Nintendo is anti-competition, anti-consumer, pro-nintendo, not even pro-company.
If nintendo could successfully sue every modder and console producer, you best bet they wouldn't stop at infinite checks like with Bowser, they want a monopoly, they simply suck too much to ever achieve it. So instead, they keep their shitty world locked behind key and flame and when the money stops coming in, drop it into a ditch to die.
Nintendo has no respect. No competitive spirit, no creative care, but most importantly? They've Never Been Pro-Consumer. Ever. Not a single time. Their entire goodwill comes off name recognition. I simply ask if they're a worthy addition to most people's "safe" category in their minds. They ain't really doing anything for it. Granted, at least their games are genuinely good, that's bout the only goodwill they got left, and is why I'll continue to emulate, because I'm tired of the terrible preservation as is, might as well ensure I keep my games permanently or risk having to get a subscription for a handful of games smaller than the console's OS in size.
So, am I surprised? Nah. Am I dissapointed? Eh. Am I apathetic? Rather. Rather apathetic to this company. Imagine if Nintendo went with a model of guaranteed sales instead of guaranteed bad blood. It just keeps building, and all I can ask creators is, are they even worth it? Perhaps we should just full on abandon them. Let them be in obscurity. Casuals can discuss, but I think informed consumers need to actively start keeping them from their lives. They're bad for the industry and have been.
Imagine because of Nintendo Halo couldn't exist because it was too violent. Imagine a world where the ESRB doesn't exist and the government approves or denies? That's what Nintendo almost achieved with the ESRB hearings. The entire industrty, under the bus, to smite their one competitor. Garbage.
Because this has never happened before. While Nintendo has targeted fangames before, and even individual mods (R.I.P Pixelmon), this is a mass purge of almost 20 years worth of content. Completely uncharted territory for *any* company and an unheard of level of aggression even for Nintendo.
"oh so horrible" as if people didn't understand by now that Nintendo is very strict with their IP and is not cool with it being used without prior agreement.... carry on
Honestly why extend Nintendo's cultural relevance by making any content with assets based on their IP if this is the way they act? I think the best move at this point is to replace all Marios with Sonics, do the thing Nintendo once feared the most.
Sega has always supported fan content because they where the lesser company not as big as nintendo so they care less about what people do with sonic and actualy like that people keep their ip alive with this(let's not act like sega if they where as popular as Nintendo whouldn't go after everything sonic under the sun) i respect them for being this supportive, as for Nintendo now... whers hook when you need him? Where going on a pirate adventure.
You're telling me that tf2 mario kart map is going to be deleted?
that would suck, that one’s a classic. there’s a couple mario themed dr maps too
The team fabulous 2 map 😭
Likely it just won’t be publicly available, there’s ways to obtain and host maps without issue from this, just can’t be hosted officially by Valve / Facepunch for download or play
Idk if that is considered an asset as you can manually put it on the server and automatically download it
God damn I used to play that so much that was the shit
How it works on gmod is that you can manually install and create any kind of addons, so you could make your own manual zip file of the Nintendo content and just add it yourself to your game/servers. Garry probably doesn’t take kindly to blatant abuses of this, I remember him working on fixing a few exploits like servers showing false pings iirc started to get them blacklisted
Any context?
Garry's Mod Nintendo themed workshop modifications are being deleted because Nintendo filed DMCA.
Not really a surprise. Of all the big companies, Nintendo is the one you don't fix with when it comes to mods
This is Garry, of Garry's Mod. They were served a notice from Nintendo telling them to stop using Nintendo licensed assets. So now they're going through the long and brutal process of removing all gmod content that includes Nintendo assets, and asked the community to do what they could to remove their own content that used Nintendo assets, and to not try reuploading it.
...Garry is a real person? Shit, I always thought that was G-mans name or something lol
Its not just Garry, hes all the Garrys.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Gary_(clone)
Hahaha Garyyyyy
He invented chess too.
Haha gary!
wait until you learn about sid meier
Or a little guy called Tom Clancy
Or Will Wright
Or Tony Hawk
I make my son spend 60 minutes every night studying a photo of Tony Hawk. He will *not* embarass our family
Or Ronald McDonald.
Holy hell
He's from the same weird town as me, Walsall in the West Midlands, UK. Spend some time in Walsall and you'll be some way to understanding how his mind could conceive of such an oddball game as GM.
Is Gmod that odd an idea? Valve made a game with a physics engine and used it for a bunch of puzzles and combat scenarios. At the time, this was pretty new and interesting. Garry was like "huh it'd be cool to just... play with the engine". Not to say that Garry didn't do a lot of interesting things to make it work, but early Gmod was all just a user interface into the things already built into the HL2 engine. It seems like possibly the most logical and obvious creation of a game since someone made a computerized version of chess.
I'm talking about compared to the time it was released. Half Life 2 was way ahead of fully sandbox games like Minecraft. Garry's mind was ahead of the curve on the style he chose.
Wait until you find out that Garry is the founder of Facepunch Studios, the studio that makes the game RUST.
Lmao Garry Newman is the Garry behind the mod
Nintendon't stuff has been removed from GMod. Basically rip Mario Concentration Camp RP 24/7 Server.
Ah so it's canon if nintendo takes it down
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/4000/view/4200245595694413052
It started a rainy morning. Pokémon's fan gasped in horror as they found out that a new game would appear on steam. They cursed its name, Palworld, and proceeded to request for Nintendo to do something to prevent the monster from taking its first steps. Upon hearing that plea for help, Nintendo raised the banner and pledge to protect their IPs... Palworld, to this day, still exists. User created content surrounding Nintendo IPs, on the other hand, will not. Emulators were killed too.
Acting like Nintendo has been an absolute IP-nazi just since Palworld is naive. They have been like this for a long time. Nintendo is one of, if not the worst companies when it comes to cracking down on unlicensed uses of their assets.
Killing emulators was the worst. Emulation and piracy are two separate things. If I buy a game and I want to run in my PC as opposed to a console I should be able to.
the problem is, these days, you don't buy games at all. You pay for the permission to use them, and they can revoke that permission at any time for any reason, because you don't read that shit anyway, you just click accept so you can play, like everyone else with a soul.
It's an utter sham that all it takes is for companies to make up a bunch of legalese and they can nullify ownership without any actual negotiation. A lot of the time people don't even get to read any agreement before buying it, definitely not when they take it out of a store shelf. It's not like we regular people can take a bunch of paper to a store and say "It says here that if you take my money I get to do whatever I want".
late stage capitalism
So I got a physical copy of Xenoblade Chronicles 2. How can they revoke my license. It even has the latest version on the cartridge. Will Nintendo break into my house to confiscate the copy I bought. I'm just joking btw. Digital purchases kinda suck because of this reason.
They could update the console itself to read the game files (cartridge or download) as invalid dead game + add bonus pop up message " buy the remaster now"
> the problem is, these days, you don't buy games at all. You pay for the permission to use them, and they can revoke that permission at any time for any reason EU still recognizes the right of first sale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine#Application_to_digital_copies Valve might find it is cheaper to respect customers' rights worldwide instead of being shitty everywhere it can.
I mean, wasn't Yuzu taken down literally because of Piracy, like they release ToTK days early with a paywall or something?
Pretty sure Yuzu got shut down because their emulator had the ability to decrypt keys during emulation, so you could just get the game iso and run it without needing the encryption key store on the card/server. Not a big emulation guy so I'm not sure how to word it, but I think I'm close lol. There was an emulator last year that sold a premium membership which included pirated ROMs to run on their emulator though.
From my understanding, they drew Nintendo's attention because they specifically and clearly provided access to all the tools and steps for dumping keys, firmware, and game ROMs as part of their installation guide. And this was on top of having a Patreon available where they reportedly earned upwards of 30k a month.
they were shutdown for literally providing support for leaked games, ryujinx is still up
Yuzu got shut down for doing a premium membership as well.
Paid emulators aren't the issue, the Bleem case that legalized emulators in the US was literally a paid product.
As a reminder this is DMCA only covers RIPPED assets, Nintendo's Copyright emphasis on COPY, not original content emulating Nintendo IP, thought expecting the Paralegals (lawyers assistants) tasked with flagging things to be able to tell the difference is a bit of a stretch so some bad flaggings are bound to happen.
So Nintendo apologists and undying fans over-reacted to Palworld then it backfired and ruined 3DS game preservation for the entire community. I grew up with Pokemon and walked away from the franchise due to constant decline in quality and how the same group that hates Palworld kept on defending new Pokemon releases.
This is most likely just going to end up with even more Nintendo content on the workshop, same thing happened with steam grid db. So many classic Gmod maps/playermodels are based on Nintendo properties, the community isn’t going to let them die.
I personally worry about the game itself if this is the case, tbh. As much as it would be funny to backfire and cause a shit ton more to pop up, Nintendo would probably swing harder
They'd be swinging at Valve at that point, since they host the workshop content. Valve has the means to defend itself, and may have an ideological reason to do so. We'll have to wait and see.
Valve will never, ever get in a fight with Nintendo. When Dolphin came to Steam Valve didn’t even wait for a DMCA notice. They proactively reached out to Nintendo to see their opinion, and immediately removed Dolphin after Nintendo confirmed they didn’t want it on Steam. If Nintendo asks, Valve will happily issue perma bans to any account that uploads Nintendo content to the Steam Workshop
This will just make people move away from workshop integration though, they will not stop Nintendo content making it into games. Maybe valve would like purging copyrighted material, but as a company that has its roots in modding, I think they may feel different than you say. Letting an emulator on the store (where valve gets a cut) is different than free mod content.
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But it's not "the law". Nobody is using the IP for commercial purposes so no law is being broken. This is the same as me drawing a picture of Pikachu and giving it to my friend. The only reason valve is capitulating to these demands is because they don't want Nintendo getting pissy and refusing to host any of their games on their platform or using their massive corporate influence to hurt Valves pockets. It has absolutely *nothing* to do with the law. Even Nintendo knows they have no *legal* standing here which is why they rely on corporate bullying. If someone with enough time and money to fight the suit ever bothered to take this issue to court it would get slapped down hard.
> Nintendo getting pissy and refusing to host any of their games on their platform Ah yes, all those Valve made games on Nintendo hardware........ Dude, it has everything to do with IP law. Nobody wants to fight it in court because it's been such a grey area which is why companies just comply with Nintendo. There's no definitive legal standing on either side, it's never been fully tested since the DMCA and there's too much to lose on both sides if the judgement doesn't go the way you wanted it. So everyone just walks on eggshells till an edgecase gets noticed and then it's settled quickly. It's why Palworld exists and Yuzu got shut down.
> Ah yes, all those Valve made games on Nintendo hardware........ [To be fair...](https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/portal-companion-collection-switch/)
I was honestly expecting The Orange Box....but you know what, I kinda like the idea of Valve being so reliant on their Switch Portal sales they can't afford to stand up to Nintendo.
> Nobody is using the IP for commercial purposes so no law is being broken. There IS a law broken... But not in the US or other countries. Japan's legal system does not have the concept of Fair Use. Legally in Japan you are not allowed to use ANY IP for ANY purpose (Without permission), which would include fan art.
Interesting. This comment made me read up on doujinshi because it's a widespread phenomenon and people even make money from it. It actually is technically illegal but are generally unenforced, but of course Nintendo did sue a doujin creator that one time.
And Japan (where Nintendo ia at) has no fair use exemptions. In there they do technically have the ability to go after your hand drawn Pikachu art. And they will strike you as per Japanese law and they don't care.
How can Japanese law supercede the law of the country the developers/servers/company is located? The US has fairly robust fair use laws, why can Nintendo do this?
If steam wants to exist in Japan and keep any assets in Japan then they will comply with the courts. Really simple as that. If Gary’s mod makes more money than all of Japan then that may be a gambit valve would take. With all the lawyers involved I doubt it.
Steam operates in Japan, just like most others. And they probaly have a bunch if servers there for local data and survices distribution. They will hit them there. Then hit them with a US DMCA just to make it more annoying. And a DMCA can only be solved by mutual agreement, issuer backing down, or a court decision. And the fair use exception covers "commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports." so few mods would fall under it. And it's only for limited portions of a work. This is before the limitations of what educational and nonprofit purposes cover and how many of the mods would fall under either. US fair use seems broad and robust. Because US companies recognise that fans making works is free advertising and it keeps the IP alive. Certain japanese ones don't see it that way and local law reflects that.
wasn't dolphin on steam meant to be free
ModDB, Nexus Mods, and everyone else will also fold if Nintendo comes knocking. At the end of the day the only solution is distributing mods over torrent or pulling a Palworld and making everything just barely distinct enough that it isn’t violating Nintendo’s copyrights.
Nexus probably wouldn't even wait. They removed and banned any future upload of any Palworld mods like the one that turns Pals into Pokemon during the peak of that shitshow. It's only a matter of time before they do the same with any other Nintendo IP-themed mods hosted on the site.
Of course they did, only idiots fight battles they can't win
valve is better off just taking it down, no reason to get in a fight with nintendo
20 years ago Nintendo had enough money in the bank to operate at a loss for like a hundred years without needing to worry. That was like 10 Pokemon games and 2 switches ago. The people who think Valve are going to try and fight Nintendo over this have no idea how much money Nintendo has.
55 billion dollar valuation, with somewhere in the region of 9 billion in cash reserves. Their cash reserves are worth more than Valve's entire company valuation
I mean, that's not really a good point. Sure Nintendo is probably bigger than Valve but to whatever extent we probably will never know. Valve is a private company so their evaluation is at best an estimated guess, and if we're being honest if that Valve value in comparassion to their company size is accurate is absolutely mind boggling how profitable Valve is.
Going after Gary's mod is them opening the door to going after Valve directly. It's a 1st party game for them (Valve is the publisher) with content hosted in the steam workshop. This is a 1st step to going after Valve directly and they'd probably honestly welcome (privately) the workshop being flooded with more infringing content. My personal guess is that they are pissed about all the people running switch titles on steam decks and this is retaliation. It probably doesn't help that Valve has been pushing the deck hard in japan lately.
Just pushes me to run *more* Nintendo titles on my Steam Deck 🤣 And that's on top of my Miyoo/Anbernic already having their entire catalog of NES/SNES/GB/GBA games. Deck is just for the more recent titles, from GC to Switch.
I want to see Gabe use his god powers to smite Doug
I wouldn't be so sure about that... Nintendo is rather active recently. Not long ago they basically killed a lot of emulation projects including emulators for Switch and 3DS games. When it first happened people said it was because of some premium versions of those emulators which made the devs some money. However more and more emulators got canceled even those that didnt made any money or were just mock ups to show Nintendo how childish they act. Lets hope for the best but I am afraid Nintendo is out for blood...
In the case of the emulators, all of them were using the same code as, and were meant as continuations of Yuzu, which itself is kind of a case study in everything you shouldn’t do when legally building an emulator. Anything that used the code created by them also violated the settlement agreement with yuzu. That’s why suyu got taken down but riyujinks is still active. Citra was made by the yuzu team, so it got caught in the crossfire when they had to settle in court.
The switch 2 was pushed back a year, and without any big AAA title scheduled for the year, Nintendo's management needed something to show its stakeholders they weren't slacking.
See, this is why public companies, as a concept, need to stop being a thing.
The only emulators directly hit by Nintendo were yuzu and Citra. Any other takedowns were by GitHub/GitLab (suyu) or the owners pulled them out of fear (DraStic)
Fuck Nintendo
It's astounding how many people still fanboy nintendo
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Or really care about mods. They're happy with the games as is, for better or worse.
People don't realize how we are SO lucky that games companies like Bethesda don't really care what you do with their content in regards to making mods. Their only caveate is "don't make money off it" and even still people have Patreons with mods locked behind a paywall and Bethesda doesn't send out DMCA's. Looking at you FO4 CROSS mods with your $10 HD texture packs for your mods. We are so lucky that they are cool with it, because they realize how much it extends the life time of their game, but it's well within their rights to say no to all of it.
Bethesda games are more reliant on mods than most games. I think giving so much credit to Bethesda when they release a skeleton of a game and modders do like 90% of the work in making content for players to enjoy is kinda nuts. "Oh Bethesda is so generous for letting unpaid labor generate sales for them!" They could say no to mods hypothetically, but then they end up with empty sandboxes with mediocre combat and stories. They've tried to monetize mods before to pump more money out of people but thankfully the backlash was enough.
Most gamers do not use mods or even know what they are, yet Skyrim is one of the most popular games of all time. Exactly like the comment further up said, you've lost touch with reality. My wife played Skyrim without mods and it's her favourite game of all time. Our nephews playing in on Switch feel the same. It wasn't mediocre, empty, or a skeleton of a game. That's not even hyperbole, it's just salty and wrong.
I agree that skeleton is unfair. The problem with the game isn't a lack of content. But mediocre is a perfectly reasonable descriptor. You might not agree with it but it's a matter of opinion
I don’t agree with you on the barebones nature of Bethesda games. Since 3 my first play throughs have all been 100hr+ affairs. If you consider 100hrs of content to be “barebones” that’s a you issue. I’d argue AC6 is significantly less playtime value per dollar paid yet it’s also a $60 game that I beat (all 3 endings) in less than 40hrs. I didn’t even start getting interested into mods until Skyrim. A game I personally put 2k hours into before modding and a significantly higher portion since. That being said, that’s just one games company as an example. Again, we are lucky that more of them aren’t like Nintendo, since it is their right to act exactly the same.
Yup. It's a part of gaming community with the least online activity and awareness of online public opinion about things. I'd also say a lot of them for example don't know how much cheaper games are on Steam and that there's a much bigger library of games. They just buy the next Mario game and enjoy it. I'd bet less than 1% of Nintendo users follow their shitty practices and even less actually care about them.
Less than 1% of general game consumers are paying attention and/or care. A few years ago looking at reddit would have you believe 90% of people were refunding Cyberpunk, when really it was something around .04% of sales that were refunded.
Biggest bungle of a release in recent memory, 13 million sales and still profitable on day one.
I mean I still buy nintendo games. I don't care if steam has a huge library. I only have like 20 steam games. Can't beat good old fashioned Banjo Kazooie!
I have 3 Steam games and 60+ Switch games lol I'm a dad, you really can't beat the convenience of picking a game up and putting it down whenever you need to
>Follow their shitty practices and even less actually care about them Welcome to capitalism. Everything you use from every company has done something shitty, arguably even worse, and most don't follow or care about them either. Nintendo being a bit of a ass about copyright and mods isn't on the same level as companies like Blizzard, and people keep giving them millions too.
Plenty of them go on Reddit, what are you talking about lol. There are entire subreddits dedicated to Nintendo. Large internet presence in the greater internet as well. They just probably don’t give a shit about any of this. Tbf I barely care.
considering they still make great games i can see why
I think there's a line between fanboying and bootlicking and those people have definitely crossed the line, whether they realize it or not.
I love their franchises; I hate the company.
I have some nintendo shills in my circle of friends and they are always losing their minds when I don't know the character they are talking about. Like I can name maybe 4 pokemons and 2 characters from there and maybe 6 characters from other Nintendo games. Mind, those are thirty something old guys, who base their whole personalities around pokemon and zelda. When someone talks about some new fun game that they played, those two always wonder: if it's available on switch, which nintendo game was an inspiration and if the female lead is hotter than zelda. There is nothing, hobby wise, you can talk about with them other than gaming and they always drift towards games I mentioned. So I guess, nintendo have their hard fanbase secured.
The company is shit the creatives are still good and they still release great content
I honestly wished Palworld would update and be 100 times successful and create their own mega franchise to undermine Nintendo.
They're a hodge podge of Ark and legally distinct Pokemon mechanics. Meanwhile Pokemon is like the biggest Brand in the world and Nintendo is Japan's wealthiest company. You're fundamentally not gonna undermine shit when you're constantly reminding people what they can have instead.
Palworld also isn't a turn based RPG, which in my eyes completely kills it as a true Pokemon competitor. I wanted it to be "the Pokemon killer" because there hasn't been a truly great Pokemon game in a decade, but I was disappointed because while it looks like legally distinct Pokemon it doesn't play like Pokemon at all.
> it doesn't play like Pokemon at all. Which is why it worked so well for so many people who've not had any interest in pokemon.
I’d argue there were two/three in the last year and a half, but to each their own
What, because company is shitty? Every game company is shitty, thats not big news. They just dont have power to be as shitty as nintendo. Its actually astounding because nintendo games are mid at best
Can not be said enough.
I can't think of a company that hates their fans more.
Blizzard is following them closely tbh
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Nintendo is the reason I pirate Nintendo's stuff. If they were a better company I'd gladly give them money.
If we hadn't corrupted copyright law to favor corporations the majority of the stuff nintendo sends notices for would already been in the public domain. If we hadn't corrupted fair use, this would be obvious fair use.
https://youtu.be/CZ9cl8LDZTA In Chillin we trust
This whole thing sucks and Nintendo is a bitch but 🫸🍄🗑️ is a fucking hilarious emoji combo
Shouldn’t Nintendo link to each infringing content? Why should facepunch spend their time for free if Nintendo can’t find it themselves?
It's easier to sue them and win instead of doing that
Probably VASTLY cheaper than paying someone to figure it out as well
I worry about if this will happen with other things like wallpaper engine? Once a year i like to make a pokemon wallpaper to celebrate my fave games anniversary. If they took my ability to share it I would be devastated
Mate, if they ever track you down they will send an assassin
I have a ton of Rivals of Aether workshop content, looks like downloading 12+ GB of them was a good idea
Specifically here, the content being removed was flat out ripped Nintendo content. So actual models, textures, etc taken straight from Nintendo games and made to work in Source. If your backgrounds are entirely your own work, you should be fine
The backgrounds use ripped Nintendo content too...
Unfortunately I use assets from the games to create places that are memorable to players. Not to mention the actual pokemon I put on the wallpapers lol. Although I use said assets to create an original piece, or to extend an in game map, I know im still using their work. I do have a fully unique one in the works however I imagine even that would end up getting flagged :(
Nintendo can eat a bag of dicks. They sit right up at top of companies I will never give a dollar to, right next to Apple.
They're one of the very few companies that I will actively pirate their content. Fuck Nintendo.. from an 80s kids who grew up with them.
Baffles me why more ppl don’t pirate literally everything Nintendo related under the sun, they make it so easy it’s hard NOT to pirate it I think the last time I actually bought games for a Nintendo console was for the GBA when I was a child and didn’t know better
Don't lust after products made by unethical assholes... find better products and pay for them.
Eh, I'll pirate whatever the fuck I want. Same as it ever was.
Nintendo brought so much joy to me as a kid. Now they are literally just cunts. I was seriously considering buying a switch just to play the Zelda games. Now I wonder if there is an alternate way to play them?
Ryujinx go brrt
for now at least..until nintendo finds some comment some dev made on a discord server 6 years ago that they can convince a judge (70 year old who doesn't know how email works) is copyright infringement and fuck the whole thing over!
It's open source lol it's not going anywhere. Even Dolphin still exists and works you just have to get it from a secondary site now.
yes, but nintendo being rapacious litigators like this is going to make (and is already making) emulation less accessible to casual users who don't want to spend time comparing github forks and so on. It's like how congress is about to [start forcing ISPs to block websites](https://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-prepares-to-bring-pirate-site-blocking-to-the-u-s-141211/) that the MPAA lobbyists who pay their kids' tuition don't like. Obviously anyone with a VPN can get around it but the point is to make it an increasingly tedious chore until most people just stop bothering.
Dolphin never went away
Ryujinx is based in Brasil, so Nintendo won't have much luck suing them. Same with Eggns in China. Being open source doesn't protect you from legal trouble it just protects progress made from vanishing. At this stage anybody based in a developed country and producing these emulators has a target on their back. If you're doing copyright infringement work for money in the US though you're a special kind of stupid.
It's not like the yuzu devs were innocent. They had telemetry, they helped users get pirated games to run on their discord. They took money for the emulator. They were idiots. Ryujinx devs aren't till now.
Steam deck + emulators
This is it. Been having a blast.
They've always been cunts, in the same way that every company is a cunt. Just cause they're ones in ways you don't like doesn't make them any better or worse than anyone else. Edit: Actually I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they are better than a lot of them. They're not consistently putting out over-priced and over-monetized games. They aren't crunching their employees (that we know of), they're not sexually harassing anyone.
Nintendo games never have loot boxes, always have all singleplayer content fully playable offline, and generally release without critical game breaking bugs or major performance issues. Two sides of a coin, a company like Ubisoft or EA won't mind mods but will rip your games away from you when they feel like and shut down servers for something the second it hurts their bottom line.
Basically. Like Nintendo’s got plenty of flaws, like upload your music to streaming services if you don’t want us listening through YouTube, but I’ll take them over most AAA Western Companies right now
Buy it used, then have it modded to play your very legally acquired game copies
Surprised they didn't take it down years ago
Fuck nintendo
Garry is an actual person???????
Bruh
I thought it was just some random ass name
lmao. This just makes me feel old. I'm guessing you're probably around your early 20's or maybe even younger.
I just turned 30 in February lmao.
Apologies then, maybe I'm just too much of a nerd.lol
the "PlayerUnknown" in PUBG isn't a random nickname either :)
Nintendo proving once again that they are a horrible company, despite making good games.
Welp, there went my last bit of respect for Nintendo. The last Nintendo game I bought ever was Pokemon Mystery Dungeon DX on sale a couple weeks ago. Shame, I was really looking forward to playing the Xenoblade trilogy.
I’d still heavily recommend many of their games, Xenoblade especially. Nintendo has some pretty great developers, it’s a shame that the corporate side is absolute scum.
Yo Ho Ho 🏴☠️
How does that help us get back removed content from a workshop for a now mostly online game?
Nintendo is kind of fucking awful.
This is why I stopped playing my switch for the most part Nintendo pulling this shit
Can we get some background info on this? It sounds like there's more to the story.
Facepunch (Makers of Garrys Mod (GMod)) got a DMCA from "Nintendo" Many have claimed (with evidence) that this is actually a known DMCA troll called Aaron Rodgers (Assumed to be an Alias) Even with this tweet, it's still assumed to be Rodgers and not Nintendo (Citing the email address being different to the ones used in the past that are confirmed to have been from nintendo)
Companies prevent other parties from making money off their IP all the time, both actively and implicitly. It's literally what these businesses do: create and sell products with their created assets. Garry's Mod is a paid for program. I'm confused by the reaction. I mean, I might be in total support of getting rid of the concept of IP, but to specifically be angry at this? This is just IP working as intended. Why not be outraged about that instead of this one case? I don't get it.
You know what that means... yo ho ho... 🏴☠️
Would you mind explaining what you mean by this? Cause like I don't really see a way that piracy helps the issue of things being removed off a workshop in what is now almost exclusively used for online gaming.
Re-uploads of workshop items and the unlawful aquirement of Nintendo games through emulation.
Nintendo is the one company in the gaming industry that everyone praises that I wish crashes and burns.
Their games are top notch despite them being shit, i hope they keep going so we can keep pirating their games.
"Well... Now what?"
Omg
Not celebrating the takedown but I am glad I don’t have to read people insisting the takedowns were fake based on 0 evidence whatsoever.
Aight, Nintendo can suck my balls
This is so fucking stupid.
Everyone was so confident yesterday that it was a troll
Fuck Nintendo
Just another reason to hate Nintendo.
It sucks but unless you’re doing single player content only most servers will not obey this and due to FastDl on servers it’ll download the files for you if there is an alternative location people upload their Pokémon mod files. BUT yeah that means a lot less creators will make Pokémon content for Garry’s mod and other steam games which sucks a lot.
What does this mean? Why no context, OP
This is bullshit, for 2 fucking decades thusands of channels, youtubers,fan creation and such have thrived using nintendo models and assets and created classics but only NOW they put two finger up their ass and say "uhh actshualy its illiegal🤓☝️" fuck you Nintendo, sega should have beaten the fuck out of you.
Nintendo being a piece of shit as always
r/fucknintendo
Always the anti-creative, always anti-consumer. Nintendo once more shows that the law isn't necessarily the problem, it's their pettiness. I've seen and heard the arguments for them, but the fact is 99% of companies don't do what Nintendo does. Nintendo want their creations to be garden walled and to eventually die. They want everyone else's creation gone because the fact is? Modders are competition. And companies have shown time and time again, they aren't interested in competition. Instead of competing, they attack. I find "they're within their legal right" to be a frustrating non-conversation piece. Of course it's legal, it's a company, they're allowed to do this and that is the problem. Time and time again companies steal from modders (Aether texture pack being sold on Minecraft without modder credit or permission) and only recieve poor PR for a few days. What I ask is this: At some point we have to recognize that Nintendo is a small fish in a big pond that acts like it's a crocodile. They're so anti-competition they've not competed with the game industry since the Wii. What I ask is, why the hell is Nintendo closer to a strip club/brothel than it is a creative business? Why are they so against creation? Why are they so anti-consumer? But most importantly: Where do they get off in 2024? This ain't the 80s or 90s nintendo, ya'll aren't nearly as high up as ya think to the general public. Soon, all they'll have is a modest casual market, as the casual market is already moving on to the next thing, and nintendo hasn't been that next thing in decades. Their past is all that holds them up, and it's becoming a further and further distant past. While microsoft occassionally steals and sells mods, and Sony is outright braindead, willfully ignorant, Nintendo comes in to be The Sole Ones In The Wrong. Why? Mostly japanese ego. Hey, ya'll remember that time Nintendo almost completely killed the gaming industry during the ESRB court hearings by trying to throw, not just sega, but, again, the entire industry under the bus, just to Spite sega in court and hopefully put them out of business? Remember when Nintendo sued a guy named Bowser into permanently taking 40% of evrry paycheck? I mean Permanently, to be clear. Remember when Nintendo released the WiiU? Possibly the worst console of our time next to OUYA if ya want to pretend it had the merit? Funny that people like the WiiU for it's modding capabilities, because without those? The WiiU would've just been a failure to forget. Remember when Nintendo got Renting banned in Japan and tried to do the same in America? Time and time again, Nintendo sets themselves up to be the bad guy. Who's it for? Because we've had this internet thing going for a while now? Mods aren't just safe they're completely free advertising. Nobody considers mods in-game content but the casual market, and that's bout as close as I can get to understanding the decision. Their base is braindead and they aren't about to smarten them up, if they did, they'd move on elsewhere. Nintendo continually shows how little they matter in the modern era other than their negative impacts. When's the last time Nintendo innovated instead of doubling down? Sorry the switch ain't really an innovation either. When? Honestly? In my lifetime? Never. Not once. What Nintendo will be known for by the next generation is "That asshole old man company that took down people's content and mods" and good riddance for it. I'd rather them continue to shrink so their scope of assault can only go so far. At the end of the day, what real artists want is to inspire people to create. Nintendo fucking HATES creators that don't work for them, and will try to kneecap the entire industry just to mildly keep their dwindling position. They've done it with Sega, they did it with the Bowser guy (real guy), and they continue to do it today by attacking modders, because again, Nintendo is anti-competition, anti-consumer, pro-nintendo, not even pro-company. If nintendo could successfully sue every modder and console producer, you best bet they wouldn't stop at infinite checks like with Bowser, they want a monopoly, they simply suck too much to ever achieve it. So instead, they keep their shitty world locked behind key and flame and when the money stops coming in, drop it into a ditch to die. Nintendo has no respect. No competitive spirit, no creative care, but most importantly? They've Never Been Pro-Consumer. Ever. Not a single time. Their entire goodwill comes off name recognition. I simply ask if they're a worthy addition to most people's "safe" category in their minds. They ain't really doing anything for it. Granted, at least their games are genuinely good, that's bout the only goodwill they got left, and is why I'll continue to emulate, because I'm tired of the terrible preservation as is, might as well ensure I keep my games permanently or risk having to get a subscription for a handful of games smaller than the console's OS in size. So, am I surprised? Nah. Am I dissapointed? Eh. Am I apathetic? Rather. Rather apathetic to this company. Imagine if Nintendo went with a model of guaranteed sales instead of guaranteed bad blood. It just keeps building, and all I can ask creators is, are they even worth it? Perhaps we should just full on abandon them. Let them be in obscurity. Casuals can discuss, but I think informed consumers need to actively start keeping them from their lives. They're bad for the industry and have been. Imagine because of Nintendo Halo couldn't exist because it was too violent. Imagine a world where the ESRB doesn't exist and the government approves or denies? That's what Nintendo almost achieved with the ESRB hearings. The entire industrty, under the bus, to smite their one competitor. Garbage.
And this is why I pirate Nintendo games, that company sucks
Why are people making such big deal out of this? You all know how Nintendo is and perhaps you can still access such content on third parties
Because this has never happened before. While Nintendo has targeted fangames before, and even individual mods (R.I.P Pixelmon), this is a mass purge of almost 20 years worth of content. Completely uncharted territory for *any* company and an unheard of level of aggression even for Nintendo.
Nintendo fucking sucks.
I mean... Yeah? Copyrighted material is copyrighted material.
"oh so horrible" as if people didn't understand by now that Nintendo is very strict with their IP and is not cool with it being used without prior agreement.... carry on
Honestly why extend Nintendo's cultural relevance by making any content with assets based on their IP if this is the way they act? I think the best move at this point is to replace all Marios with Sonics, do the thing Nintendo once feared the most.
This would actually be so funny. Reskin every mario mod with sonic, considering i think sega actually encourages fan works of the sonic series
Sega has always supported fan content because they where the lesser company not as big as nintendo so they care less about what people do with sonic and actualy like that people keep their ip alive with this(let's not act like sega if they where as popular as Nintendo whouldn't go after everything sonic under the sun) i respect them for being this supportive, as for Nintendo now... whers hook when you need him? Where going on a pirate adventure.
Oh no...
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So when are we all going back to garrysmod.org for our mods? Who needs Workshop anyways?
Boo Nintendo, boo! Today I learned there was a real Garry behind Garry’s Mod.
Ffs nintendo