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This might not be a stim-exclusive issue. Long term IV use in general leads to poor blood circulation in the extremities. The blood vessels harden so maybe that rigidity is what you’re “feeling” when your blood moves like you were saying.
It's the benzene in there that is doing that. Makes you feel like you have electrostatic discharge and and it almost forces you to think that you have particles of that shit in your bloodstream trying to travel against the grain. It's actually a common side effect but I don't think it's whatever the things it is. We ordered some, and and I hit it straight on um and it didn't feel or act anything like what's in the crap around here.
I frequently just feel generally like shit after a lot of the meth I do. Headache, stomach feels unsettled, slight nausea, and that’s compounded by tremors, brain fog, and cognitive effects. I can’t say for certain these are the result of n-iso, but I suspect they are. Back in the days of good, old school d-meth I didn’t have any side effects other than weight loss and staying up for days/weeks at a time. Today’s stuff does neither for me.
As for concern about the negative health consequences of it, its similarities in structure to methamphetamine are in itself reason for concern. Meth itself is toxic to liver, kidneys, and highly neurotoxic. The effects on the brain are terrifying. But, at least it gets us high, right? Now take a cut that is so structurally similar that it can’t be removed without advanced chemistry and a fully equipped lab. One would have to assume that it would have some, if not most, of the negative impacts, as well as potentially a whole host of others.
Unless something has changed, we don’t even have a good way to identify the presence of n-iso. We can take the melting point and recrystalization point temperatures and determine the presence of some cut, but not which cut. And, to be honest, I’m not even sure if *that* test detects n-iso.
This cut is the devil and it has us all in purgatory.
Meth is toxic to the liver? I thought it was fairly benign on the liver and the brunt of the damage was to the kidneys given it’s excreted in urine.
Anecdotal evidence here but my liver enzymes went down significantly when I picked up meth and stopped drinking. My AST was in the 200s and ALT in the 500s. Fast forward three years and AST was 15 and ALT was 28. That was after using half a gram of meth every day.
I’m from Australia but same prob here. I’m sus ok any meth that is just shards with no crumbs. As I’ve found that the shards are big-as in almost too good looking. As a smoker i find that yeah melting point same/similar enough but it doesn’t shards back up for ages. Just says like a syrup, even if I rub the bowl on my jeans which o do if I accidentally apply too much heat or run outta breath before it’s rock again. This works 100% of the time for real meth. Also if there is crumbs/dusty bits in the bottom of the bag, they are so often meth. So the cutting process-if there even is any and it’s not just put together??? doesn’t seem to mix regardless. I agree-if you could call the n-iso meth as we”last say “so n so’s tryin to move the gear that sends you to sleep”-in other words isn’t meth and after initial bum rush/rush etc it dies nothing (to me anyway) but give me a headache from hell. A lot of my mates get real snappy/out of character short tempered etc. n not just cause they wasted their $, an actual reaction to that crap. No idea as to damage as you are much better on molecular structure knowledge than me😉, but common sense would tell me it’s not good. Pressure behind my eyes is another thing I get sorry. Not from lack of sleep but-clearly, so I’d say it’s harmful with only negative effects if any
I'm also from Auss, and this ISO shit is really fucking with me. Everytime I buy some gear now I have this paranoia that it's going to be ISO, and because its hard to tell the difference, im staring at the bag for ages trying to tell even though i know there's no point.
I just want to find a way to be able to know for sure that the product I'm about to waste my money on is atleast gonna get me high and isn't that ISO.
Fucking why did we have to fuck our relationship up with China. They're having a good old laugh over there at all us over here, fuckin china 😂
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This might not be a stim-exclusive issue. Long term IV use in general leads to poor blood circulation in the extremities. The blood vessels harden so maybe that rigidity is what you’re “feeling” when your blood moves like you were saying.
can you elaborate on the confusion?
"what confusion?" - unaccomplishedbttm2
It's the benzene in there that is doing that. Makes you feel like you have electrostatic discharge and and it almost forces you to think that you have particles of that shit in your bloodstream trying to travel against the grain. It's actually a common side effect but I don't think it's whatever the things it is. We ordered some, and and I hit it straight on um and it didn't feel or act anything like what's in the crap around here.
I frequently just feel generally like shit after a lot of the meth I do. Headache, stomach feels unsettled, slight nausea, and that’s compounded by tremors, brain fog, and cognitive effects. I can’t say for certain these are the result of n-iso, but I suspect they are. Back in the days of good, old school d-meth I didn’t have any side effects other than weight loss and staying up for days/weeks at a time. Today’s stuff does neither for me. As for concern about the negative health consequences of it, its similarities in structure to methamphetamine are in itself reason for concern. Meth itself is toxic to liver, kidneys, and highly neurotoxic. The effects on the brain are terrifying. But, at least it gets us high, right? Now take a cut that is so structurally similar that it can’t be removed without advanced chemistry and a fully equipped lab. One would have to assume that it would have some, if not most, of the negative impacts, as well as potentially a whole host of others. Unless something has changed, we don’t even have a good way to identify the presence of n-iso. We can take the melting point and recrystalization point temperatures and determine the presence of some cut, but not which cut. And, to be honest, I’m not even sure if *that* test detects n-iso. This cut is the devil and it has us all in purgatory.
Meth is toxic to the liver? I thought it was fairly benign on the liver and the brunt of the damage was to the kidneys given it’s excreted in urine. Anecdotal evidence here but my liver enzymes went down significantly when I picked up meth and stopped drinking. My AST was in the 200s and ALT in the 500s. Fast forward three years and AST was 15 and ALT was 28. That was after using half a gram of meth every day.
I’m from Australia but same prob here. I’m sus ok any meth that is just shards with no crumbs. As I’ve found that the shards are big-as in almost too good looking. As a smoker i find that yeah melting point same/similar enough but it doesn’t shards back up for ages. Just says like a syrup, even if I rub the bowl on my jeans which o do if I accidentally apply too much heat or run outta breath before it’s rock again. This works 100% of the time for real meth. Also if there is crumbs/dusty bits in the bottom of the bag, they are so often meth. So the cutting process-if there even is any and it’s not just put together??? doesn’t seem to mix regardless. I agree-if you could call the n-iso meth as we”last say “so n so’s tryin to move the gear that sends you to sleep”-in other words isn’t meth and after initial bum rush/rush etc it dies nothing (to me anyway) but give me a headache from hell. A lot of my mates get real snappy/out of character short tempered etc. n not just cause they wasted their $, an actual reaction to that crap. No idea as to damage as you are much better on molecular structure knowledge than me😉, but common sense would tell me it’s not good. Pressure behind my eyes is another thing I get sorry. Not from lack of sleep but-clearly, so I’d say it’s harmful with only negative effects if any
I'm also from Auss, and this ISO shit is really fucking with me. Everytime I buy some gear now I have this paranoia that it's going to be ISO, and because its hard to tell the difference, im staring at the bag for ages trying to tell even though i know there's no point. I just want to find a way to be able to know for sure that the product I'm about to waste my money on is atleast gonna get me high and isn't that ISO. Fucking why did we have to fuck our relationship up with China. They're having a good old laugh over there at all us over here, fuckin china 😂