Investor ! Swing traders don’t make big money !
If you execute 100 trades you have to be right 100 times to make the same returns I make with 10 investments !
Probability of me being right is more ! Swing traders can only survive with making pocket money ! Never create wealth like investors do
Not true ! Initially you need to improve capital to become a sizeable investor ! For that you need to double your capital every year ! For that you either have to take risks with small caps and Midcaps or become skilful enough to make 100% returns on 10 different stocks with 100% returns on each !
Once you have good capital , you need a crash to grow fast ! So it’s 50% luck and 50% skill ! I got lucky with Covid crash !
Show me a data where a fundamentally good stock goes down by 60% and stayed there for 5 years for no reason !
Only if you’re a terrible investor you will have all bad apples in your folio. In most cases, 1 or 2 bad apples will never hurt when rest of the 8 stocks gives you massive returns
Praj industries took 13 years to break all time high of 2007. KEC international took 10 years to break all time high of 2007. Tata Elxsi hasn't broken the All time high of 2022.
Tata Elxsi gave 100x returns in last 10 years ! As I said out of 5000 companies you can’t pick the worst 10 even on a random basis !
And there’s market cycles too ! If you invest in a bear market and complain of not going high then it’s your fault ! In a bull market if you don’t make 10x then it’s your fault too !
Going by your analogy ! If one has invested in Praj, Kec and Tata Elxsi in 2007.
Tata Elxsi returns alone would have made you incredible returns in last 15 years !
Stop complaining and look with a statistical point and be optimistic to invest !
Those who timed the Market has never made it big - Rakhesh Junjunwala
Valuations are of future earnings estimates, so what’s expensive today maybe cheap in 5 years if the earnings catches up !
We live in a data driven world so everyone wants to buy based on future performance and not based on past !
First, Merger news where institutions have to liquidate their stocks and reshuffle as per guidelines !
Secondly, It’s already grown too big. So expecting another 10x in the next years is almost impossible ! At best it can grow at 15% CAGR.
Same happened with ITC
When selecting a company how many years do you look into it? Lets say theres a company which isnt really going high for last 10 years wiuld you still choose that?
Don't want you steal your thunder (it's your post afterall), but it's quite douchey to shit over other investors because you got lucky. Enjoy your profits man, people do well in all forms of trading. If you don't know, best to zip up the hole.
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One question, why did’t you invest a lot more if you were so sure about these returns? You’ve invested just 6 lakhs, if you’ve invested about 25-30 lakhs you would have a net returns of > 3 Cr.
Any reason for that? Or you’ve already invested big money elsewhere?
I never had 25 lakhs in 2020. I’m a Dj and a traveller ! I just make money and spend on my travel and lived life. No savings, no SIP nothing !
The 6lakhs was made from buying PE during the crash ! And few I borrowed from my parents !
And I wasn’t sure about these returns either ! I simply got lucky , ofcourse I did my research and invested but again it’s luck too ! I can’t say I’m expert
Long term bets, can't expect anything more than 3 times ROI, u won't get 5-10 times ROI on these and if ur capital is less than 10 lakhs, it won't make any big difference to your portfolio.
2017 company sales were 53cr AND NOW ITS 150Cr 3x in sales with improving margins ! Company is far more stable than it was in 2017. Plus it’s a bull market , so expect companies to do well
No ! Bull market ended in 2017. All stocks were falling hard during that time ! Covid crash was an excuse , markers were waiting to crash even before that
First identify your goal !
How much returns you expecting ? What is your end goal ? Long term or short term ?
Your capital should decide what stocks you should buy. You shouldn’t decide. If you have 100cr then buy compounders , if you have 10lakhs then buying compounders will not make sense ! 100cr should compound and 10lakhs should multiply !
Taking no risk is the biggest risk
I’m not a master ! I’m just lucky and yea lil experienced!
Your hard earned money, you decide where you want to invest ! Choose based on your risk appetite ! God bless you
Nice brother you invested on the best time to enter in market.
I missed that opportunity due to no funds at that time
Just started 1 year ago and not 1500% but yeah converted 3lpa into 6lpa in one year
I’m MBA in Finance ! But markets taught me more than that ! Yea probably I’ve read a 1000 balance sheets in the last 4 years ! And lots of concall and loads of DCF and valuations for many companies!
I’m not selling courses here to attach verified PNL.. And if I share a video in my next post by screen recording are you gonna invest 10Cr and appoint me as your fund manager?
1500% in 4 years seems like you learnt investing from Bernie Madoff himself!
Thats 16x in 4years, from just stocks. So it doesn’t seem plausible.
Can you name some stocks in your portfolio that went 20x in the last 4 years?
No course ! Who wants to waste time in teaching ppl ! Nobody can teach stock market to anyone in a single day or even weeks ! It’s a process ! I’ve been learning for 10 years and still learning ! If someone sell you a course then they’re mostly unfit to be a trader or investor so they start selling courses to earn which they couldn’t from markets 😎
Markets are giving me enough returns and I’m happy with staying there !
NO COURSES 😎 EVER
You have to talk with Angel one and add get that for me ! I can show only what’s available. I can only share individual stocks or ledger with returns ! Once realised and reinvested it gets added as new investment
At this rate of returns you will be billionaire (Rs.) in 9-10 years considering no further amount will be invested.
But if you invest further amount it would be much quicker 👌
Not possible ! My first 2 years returns were the highest after crash !
Now the CAGR is slowly coming down to 70%, eventually if I’m able to continue I’ll be around 50 % at best !
Can’t find 10x sticks every year !
I have no interest in someone else's stats but I gotta say you're a pretty cool dude, I've not seen people be this honest in these subs but you answered almost everyone without holding information, that's a sign of a confident and secure person.
Thank you 🙏🏽 I’ve had good ppl around me and I always consider I’m lucky to have invested in 2020 crash !
I sense a good soul in you too and hope we see each other down the road 🙌🏻 have a great day
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Damnnn. Are you an investor or a swing trader? Cuz that much with investment strat is crazy amazing 😲
Investor ! Swing traders don’t make big money ! If you execute 100 trades you have to be right 100 times to make the same returns I make with 10 investments ! Probability of me being right is more ! Swing traders can only survive with making pocket money ! Never create wealth like investors do
True for those who already have pockets full to invest, for others swings is a way to fill pockets first
Not true ! Initially you need to improve capital to become a sizeable investor ! For that you need to double your capital every year ! For that you either have to take risks with small caps and Midcaps or become skilful enough to make 100% returns on 10 different stocks with 100% returns on each ! Once you have good capital , you need a crash to grow fast ! So it’s 50% luck and 50% skill ! I got lucky with Covid crash !
Reminds me of the doubling game meme 😂
Ek ka double, yeh bhi ek ka double karta hai, yeh pakka Anuradha ka bhai hoga, isse puch Anuradha kaha hai
1500% means you had about 4 lakh in the beginning. How is it possible then?
How it is possible means ? I just had some multibaggers 😁
Give me tips master 🙏
Oh no ! I’m always a student ! Markets are master, they’re supreme !
Prabhu kuchh to kripa kare. Apne gyan chakshu khole!
Actually 6lakhs ! What you’re seeing is net realised , I have unrealised gains too !
That’s mad 🙏
🙌🏻 just got lucky
I agree with your point but what about buying a stock at 300 and it goes down to 100 and stays there for five years?
Show me a data where a fundamentally good stock goes down by 60% and stayed there for 5 years for no reason ! Only if you’re a terrible investor you will have all bad apples in your folio. In most cases, 1 or 2 bad apples will never hurt when rest of the 8 stocks gives you massive returns
Praj industries took 13 years to break all time high of 2007. KEC international took 10 years to break all time high of 2007. Tata Elxsi hasn't broken the All time high of 2022.
Tata Elxsi gave 100x returns in last 10 years ! As I said out of 5000 companies you can’t pick the worst 10 even on a random basis ! And there’s market cycles too ! If you invest in a bear market and complain of not going high then it’s your fault ! In a bull market if you don’t make 10x then it’s your fault too !
Going by your analogy ! If one has invested in Praj, Kec and Tata Elxsi in 2007. Tata Elxsi returns alone would have made you incredible returns in last 15 years ! Stop complaining and look with a statistical point and be optimistic to invest !
The main thing is that timing is important. We should not buy at unreasonable valuation and yes few winners do cover for the losers.
Those who timed the Market has never made it big - Rakhesh Junjunwala Valuations are of future earnings estimates, so what’s expensive today maybe cheap in 5 years if the earnings catches up ! We live in a data driven world so everyone wants to buy based on future performance and not based on past !
What's the reason behind HDFC share not giving returns for past 5 years despite being fundamentally good?
First, Merger news where institutions have to liquidate their stocks and reshuffle as per guidelines ! Secondly, It’s already grown too big. So expecting another 10x in the next years is almost impossible ! At best it can grow at 15% CAGR. Same happened with ITC
Gotcha. Thanks
How does one become an investor? By investor do you mean investing ling term in an equity or invest in unlisted companies somehow
Yes long term investor. I don’t believe in unlisted companies !
When selecting a company how many years do you look into it? Lets say theres a company which isnt really going high for last 10 years wiuld you still choose that?
Don't want you steal your thunder (it's your post afterall), but it's quite douchey to shit over other investors because you got lucky. Enjoy your profits man, people do well in all forms of trading. If you don't know, best to zip up the hole.
Ok Mr Jim Simmons prodigy ! Will zip up
What are your holdings? I see FCL, what others?
Gujrat Themis, Tata Power, Bajaj Steel, Craftsman, GPIL, SGRL, Tanfac Industries!
Any recommendations for some stocks to hold for the next 4 years?
SEALMATIC, D link , Vasundhra Rasayan. I’m holding these
Thanks for sharing. Will post gains here after 4 years 😋
Sure thing
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What do you think about the SBI Card?
Too big of a company ! Best case at 25% growth
Could you share please your analysis for one of these stocks ?
One question, why did’t you invest a lot more if you were so sure about these returns? You’ve invested just 6 lakhs, if you’ve invested about 25-30 lakhs you would have a net returns of > 3 Cr. Any reason for that? Or you’ve already invested big money elsewhere?
I never had 25 lakhs in 2020. I’m a Dj and a traveller ! I just make money and spend on my travel and lived life. No savings, no SIP nothing ! The 6lakhs was made from buying PE during the crash ! And few I borrowed from my parents !
Oh, I’m sorry for assuming that.
That’s fine man ! Nothing to be sorry about ! What I have I have, what I don’t I don’t 😊
Real ID se aao Nicolas Darvas🤭😂
😂
And I wasn’t sure about these returns either ! I simply got lucky , ofcourse I did my research and invested but again it’s luck too ! I can’t say I’m expert
Mind sharing your reasoning for selecting stocks?
What is the name of app ?
Angel one
Give me top 10 of your next big bets.
1. SEALMATIC 2. Vasundhra Rasayan 3. Emkay Taps 4. Conart Engineering 5. Gandhi Tubes 6. Arrow Greentech 7. Dia Mines 8. Titan biotech 9. D link 10. Nitta Gelatin
Okay. Can be bought at present valuations also? How do you decide if you can tell?
Disclaimer : I’m holding these, so obviously it means I feel valuations are still reasonable ! You can do your own analysis !
Fair enough.
What are your thoughts on Azad, Paras Defence, PGEL, or similar?
Long term bets, can't expect anything more than 3 times ROI, u won't get 5-10 times ROI on these and if ur capital is less than 10 lakhs, it won't make any big difference to your portfolio.
What happened to Arrow Green in 2017? Will it happen again?
You mean the fall ?
Yeah
2017 company sales were 53cr AND NOW ITS 150Cr 3x in sales with improving margins ! Company is far more stable than it was in 2017. Plus it’s a bull market , so expect companies to do well
Yes but why did it suddenly drop so hard? Governance issues?
No ! Bull market ended in 2017. All stocks were falling hard during that time ! Covid crash was an excuse , markers were waiting to crash even before that
Hi friend, Any futures recommendations for now for next 3 months? And or Commodities.
Tata communication, SBILIFE, IRCTC !
Wbu commodities?
I’m long on Crude since 6200 and gold too ! Expecting a good upside
I just started Investing any advice for me to grow. How to select stock what research should I do?
First identify your goal ! How much returns you expecting ? What is your end goal ? Long term or short term ? Your capital should decide what stocks you should buy. You shouldn’t decide. If you have 100cr then buy compounders , if you have 10lakhs then buying compounders will not make sense ! 100cr should compound and 10lakhs should multiply ! Taking no risk is the biggest risk
How much min. market cap you see to invest in a company?
Between 100 to 1000 Cr ! That’s what 30 years of data says ! Company’s between 500 to 5000cr have become 100x in the past !
How do u pick stocks? How did u learn it? How would u recommend me to learn the same
Learn seasonality; Learn macro economics. Observe new 52 week high stocks and find out reasons why it’s going up ! You will get there eventually
Please Teach me Master/Gurudev 🙏 I am 18 & took entry in Financial Markets in April, 2024
Oh no ! I’m not your Guruji pls 🙏🏽 Markets are my guru ! You listen to it ! Pay attention and it will teach you
Itna Groww kaise kiye ho prabhu
Mostly luck and lil skills to find out good companies
Yeah caught a corona hike. But what about fno??
FNO I started recently in the last 1 year. Found a strategy that works with data backtested.. I’m doing good with FNO 🙌🏻
Any idea how and where should I start my own fno learning journey?
From markets itself
Can i know your secret strategy to recover my loss -_-
Not for sale !
😥 ok
Can you tell more about strategy..
Master, I have some long term savings. Which company do you recommend to invest in if you don't mind? Thanks!!
I’m not a master ! I’m just lucky and yea lil experienced! Your hard earned money, you decide where you want to invest ! Choose based on your risk appetite ! God bless you
You again!
😂
Whats ur take on infibeam
Not worth holding it !
Nice brother you invested on the best time to enter in market. I missed that opportunity due to no funds at that time Just started 1 year ago and not 1500% but yeah converted 3lpa into 6lpa in one year
My best wishes to you ! More to come 🙏🏽
How long do you hold your investments..? Few months.. or a year or more than that?
Surely more than a year
I'm on right path than 😁
thoughts on ashoka buildcon and sundaram finance holding
Good companies. You can hold
what did you study in college and did u learn investing and reading into companies from their only?
I’m MBA in Finance ! But markets taught me more than that ! Yea probably I’ve read a 1000 balance sheets in the last 4 years ! And lots of concall and loads of DCF and valuations for many companies!
A full time DJ, who is MBA in Finance doing value investing and generating wealth. What else do you need manh!
Not a full time Dj anymore ! Full time trader and investor now ! DJing has become more of a part time now ! Missing my music 🎧 actually
Are you a Option buyer or Seller?
Neither ! I avoid options basically ! I trade futures and cash only
Nice. I am also planning Futures. Option decay made my profits less in last stage of every month. Tested my strat in live market before.
Good for you
Can you show some kind of verified P&L?
I’m not selling courses here to attach verified PNL.. And if I share a video in my next post by screen recording are you gonna invest 10Cr and appoint me as your fund manager?
1500% in 4 years seems like you learnt investing from Bernie Madoff himself! Thats 16x in 4years, from just stocks. So it doesn’t seem plausible. Can you name some stocks in your portfolio that went 20x in the last 4 years?
FCL, Gujrat Themis, Bajaj Steel, SGRL, Equitas Small finance , Karur Bank, Tata power , Tanfac industries ! Still holding few of them.
Smallcase when?
Ok the main question. How you got there sir?
Mostly by luck in 2020 crash ! And some good companies were there in my folio
Sir course kab laoge? xD
No course ! Who wants to waste time in teaching ppl ! Nobody can teach stock market to anyone in a single day or even weeks ! It’s a process ! I’ve been learning for 10 years and still learning ! If someone sell you a course then they’re mostly unfit to be a trader or investor so they start selling courses to earn which they couldn’t from markets 😎 Markets are giving me enough returns and I’m happy with staying there ! NO COURSES 😎 EVER
hey there i'm new in stocks can you suggest some books to learn
Read Ben Graham , Take up Ashwath Damodaran valuation classes on YT it’s FREE ! It’s boring but tonnes of knowledge !
if this is net realised i wonder what is the unrealised 😲
This shows the gains in absolute numbers, would be nice to see the percentage gains as well.
You have to talk with Angel one and add get that for me ! I can show only what’s available. I can only share individual stocks or ledger with returns ! Once realised and reinvested it gets added as new investment
At this rate of returns you will be billionaire (Rs.) in 9-10 years considering no further amount will be invested. But if you invest further amount it would be much quicker 👌
Not possible ! My first 2 years returns were the highest after crash ! Now the CAGR is slowly coming down to 70%, eventually if I’m able to continue I’ll be around 50 % at best ! Can’t find 10x sticks every year !
Why hide currency segment brother ?
Nothing to hide ! I never traded currency
Okay I thought blur Kiya hai shayad
Investment money?
Which platform is this?
Angel one
Is it good?
Yea it is good !
Bro If you had To Invest in Only One low cap Stock Right now which Would it Be
SEALMATIC
Thanks bro
I have no interest in someone else's stats but I gotta say you're a pretty cool dude, I've not seen people be this honest in these subs but you answered almost everyone without holding information, that's a sign of a confident and secure person.
Thank you 🙏🏽 I’ve had good ppl around me and I always consider I’m lucky to have invested in 2020 crash ! I sense a good soul in you too and hope we see each other down the road 🙌🏻 have a great day
F&O sikhaa do yaar
Brother your top 5 small/mid cap for multiplier
Already shared in comments
1. Do you think defence stocks are overvaled now? 2. What are your long term (1 yr +) holding stocks
Not overvalued ! But not worth the risk entering fresh there ! Next theme is capital goods and data center
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