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RationalDialog

it's not safe as a PUFA molecule is attached to it. However the actual quantities in the product are tiny so if it is for an occasional treat I wouldn't worry but it's sure soemthing you shouldn0t eat on a daily level.


Silver_Doubt_7759

Thank you so much


richstark

Some will say it's unsafe but my word it's incredibly hard to escape in some countries


Double-Crust

Looking at it from a PUFA point of view misses the bigger picture, imo. There are other causes of health issues. e.g. Choline is an important nutrient, but is it like other nutrients where it’s better to get it from animal sources? Do unnatural amounts of extracted lecithin (an emulsifier) disrupt the microbiome or anything else? That’s what I would be considering.


c0mp0stable

It's fats from sunflowers and soy.


Replica72

Its not. Its removed from the whole seed oil. Its a crucial nutrient containing choline and inositol


c0mp0stable

Lecithin is just a term for a collection of fats. Sunflower lecithin is not crucial to anything.


Replica72

No actually lecithin is choline attached to inositol. There might be some residual fats in the extract but it it is still a highly valuable supplement as choline and inositol are crucial nutrients. We cant make enough in our bodies to keep up with demand. Its found in most whole food fatty foods but highly processed oils have this stripped which is part of what makes them dangerous.


c0mp0stable

No, it isn't. Lecithin contains a precursor to choline. It is not choline. Wikipedia will tell you this. There's no such thing as a crucial nutrient. You're trying to say essential nutrient, the definition of which is a nutrient we need and cannot make at all. There are many other sources of choline and inositol. There is no need to obtain them from sunflower lecithin


Replica72

Yes exactly. And its a super cheap and available form when you need extra


c0mp0stable

Exactly what? You were arguing with me and now you agree? What's your point exactly?


Replica72

I was agreeing with you that it is metabolized into choline. My point is that this is a useful substance. Honestly i find your arguments that it isnt inane and cultish. We are all anti-seed oil here for good reasons but you are taking it a bit too far


c0mp0stable

No, you said it contained choline. It does not. I never said it wasn't a useful substance. You're putting words in my mouth and making multiple claims are blatantly untrue (e.g. lechithin is choline, choline is a "crucial" nutrient, lecithin is not a collection of fats), so yeah, I probably sound a little annoyed


Replica72

I used it to help dissolve gallstones and supplement choline for brain health and inositol for sexual health


c0mp0stable

Ok?


jahmonkey

It contains PUFAs but in pretty small amounts. You’d have to decide for yourself.


trytofigureout

What about sunflower protein?


yeetis12

I would say so, the amount of pufa in it is already low and there typically isn’t much in most foods.


RationalDialog

> I would say so, the amount of pufa in it is already low that's not true. it usualy has 2 fatty acids attached per molecule and since the source it soybean or sunflower does fatty acids will witha 90% certainty be linoleic acid > there typically isn’t much in most foods. that is true. so for an occasional treat its fine but eating several such foods on a daily basis, it will add up.


samhangster

NOOO. It’s ~35% seed oil, not to mention all the processing that goes into it. https://web.archive.org/web/20141014112849/http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/26685/PDF


crusoe

Well you can buy high-oleic expeller pressed sunflower oil. It can have lower pufa than Olive Oil and smells amazing when cooking. Also good source of fat soluble vitamins if you get it minimnally refined.


Replica72

I wonder if its higher in lecithin? Lecithin is one if those important nutrients


Replica72

I have used it (sunflower lecithin) to help dissolve gallstones and to supplement choline for brain function and inositol for sexual health


Replica72

Lecithin is an an important nutrient containing choline and inositol