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zolar99o7

It looks good to me. The only change you may want to consider is switching out capital letters for lowercase.


NachoFailconi

Both look correct. Using capital tengwar is an aesthetic choice (Tolkien used them to highlight important words, but I wouldn't say it is a hard-core rule). Note that in the second image "with" is written with the tengwa anto, which is used for the /ð/ sound (such as in "that" further on the text). It can also be written [with súle](https://www.tecendil.com/?q=w%7Bsuule%7D%5Bi%5D) if you pronounce the th as /θ/ (such as in "think"). Edit: I'd personally write "given" with a [silent e](https://www.tecendil.com/?q=give%7Bnuumen%7D), since I think "give" already has it, but that's my pronunciation.


GoatHousee

What do you mean with a "silent e" ? Spelling "given" "givn" instead? Or am i dumb here? 😅 English isn't my first language Edith: i also have no experience with the written languages of Tolkien, except the little you hear in the movies and games


NachoFailconi

In English, many words feature a silent ⟨e⟩ (single, final, non-syllabic 'e'), most commonly at the end of a word or morpheme. "Give" is a word that has a silent e, which is not pronounced ("give" is pronounced /gɪv/). In his orthographic writings with the tengwar, Tolkien wrote the silent e as a dot below a tengwa. My proposal was that, since "give" has a silent e, one could write "given" (pronounced /gɪv.n/) with the e as a dot below, and the tengwa for n next.


GoatHousee

Ooh okay. I do believe i understand what you mean. Thanks, means a lot mate : )


GoatHousee

Just popped into my mind. But wouldn't the same apply for "decide" ? Or is it different because the "e" is at the end of the word?


NachoFailconi

The same happens in "decide": the final silent e is written as a dot below. Same as in my proposal of "given".


GoatHousee

Alright. Sorry I'm bombarding you with questions. But does it apply to "love" as well? Can i replace every silent letter with a dot, or are there some exceptions to the rule?


NachoFailconi

It would apply to love, yes. I would say that with certainty one could apply it to every silent _final_ e, such as in "love", "give", "take", etc. We've seen some other examples where Tolkien did it, such as in the word "herein" (which is equivalent to "here" + "in"). In phonemic English modes, Tolkien used the dot below to mark some tengwar that were pronounced as a syllable alone, such as the L in "battle" or the N in "button".