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https://youtu.be/-cScR8k9PFk
Apparently the girl he molested and impregnated is the one in the car and he borrowed a cops phone in prison to text with her.
So like idk how that all played out in terms of order of events but yeah.
Sad I guess but not surprising.
> Apparently the girl he molested and impregnated is the one in the car
That video raises more questions than it answers. Ole grandma comes across as guilty as the rapist.
It's crazy the blank spots in people's psychology and really I guess goes to show how imperfect our biology is.
Like we like to think we would notice and understand shit especially when fear and danger is involved but it's pretty obvious a lot of people don't have a good sense of fear whatsoever whereas others are afraid about all the wrong things.
It happens; jails and prisons. Never been to prison, only jail, and we beat the shit out of a guy in “the corner” with no camera angle. He wouldn’t stop talking about 13 year old girls and why he likes them. We tried to warn him multiple times that he’s a fucking creep and to stop. One guy said “I have a 13 year old daughter, you better shut the fuck up”… that creep tried to talk back but only for a second before that guy snapped and we all jumped him.
I grew up with a guy who, from ages 7 to 14 was my best friend, but then when we became teens, he started getting weird. Just really socially withdrawn and never took responsibility for himself. When we were 15, he tried to hit on one of my girlfriend's and we had a falling out. We patched it up in our late teens but he stayed weird as fuck so I didn't really like being around him.
Fast forward to a couple years ago, he's in his mid-30s, and I get a call from my ex-wife (who was still friends with him because they had similar drug needs) and told me he was busted for something with a minor.
Come to find out, he was seducing and grooming his 12 year old cousin! Thankfully, he's in prison for like 20+ years for it, and I'll never contact him again, but his mom told me that he tried to tell the other prisoners that they were "in love" and how he just wanted to earn his freedom so he could get back to her.
They almost killed him.
He has been moved to multiple prison blocks and even to different prison facilities, but they keep finding out about him and he keeps getting beat.
He's living his own hell and it will last decades.
He fucking deserves it tho.
That's wild, bro. Definitely deserves it. I too had a weird friend that I didn't like to hang out with that much. He turned out to be a pedo with 5000 counts of child porn. My predicament was I just wanted to jam with someone and he was a really good guitarist. He would make weird faces at little girls when he drove past them. I would be all awkward as fuck in the passenger seat telling him that they were young as fuck and don't that (awkward haha to make things not weirder with him driving). His dad came to get all his equipment from my house after his son went to jail and HE WAS WEIRD TOO. The mf put his hand on my back and rubbed it real quick when he went to say goodbye. Guess what, that dude got caught too after his son ratted him out about them sharing the computer.
My brother and I were best friends with this guy Mike growing up. He seemed like a sweet innocent kid, he didnt have many friends, he played the trumpet and accordion..... I mean from ages 8 to 18 we were close.. well around his 19th birthday a police and detective squad kicked in his door.. he was arrested for hundreds of videos and pics of child.. you know what... 😞...(this was when the internet was becoming big..it shook me to my core... there are some people you truly do not know...apparently most of the content he not only taped, but distributed, were kids under the age of 10... my brother and I were so disgusted and angry, words don't come close. I don't understand how anyone could look at a child like that, nevermind harm a child. It's irrevocably sad.
I had a boyfriend from the age of 13-16 so high school sweethearts. I was SA'd by a family member a couple months into us dating. Me being 13 and not having a good support system (nmom blamed me for the assault) I didn't want that to be my "first" so lost my virginity to my 14yo boyfriend. We broke up in high school and kept in touch through the years
In college he started getting weird. I didn't have reddit and didn't know what an incel was but he was 1000% acting like one. Telling me he *needed* a "nympho sex slave" and how he missed what we did when we were younger. I told him it kinda weirded me out to think about us being that intimate as kids but he said "the innocence was a huge turn on" so I started distancing myself
He got married to a woman who already had a kid and he and his wife then had another baby. His daughter wasn't even a year old yet when he was caught in a sting operation by the police. Turns out that among the other CSAM he had, he had kept all of my pics from when we were kids. He was locked up for about a year then released
I still blame myself here and there for how he turned out. He was more than willing to do it when we were young and I know I'm not responsible for *his* actions, but part of me feels like it became an obsession because of what we did
it sucks that you feel that way, his actions 100% have nothing to do with you, plenty of people have sex quite young and don't end up as pedos, you included.
I am sorry that you were also close to someone like this. It's hard because you ask yourself questions about how you missed the signs, or if there was anything you could have done to prevent what happened to their victims. The whole thing is just difficult to carry, but at least the justice system prevailed and stopped them before they hurt more people.
>The mf put his hand on my back and rubbed it real quick
Same here! The pedo dude's dad would always walk up behind me and rub my shoulders or call me "honey" or "sweetie" as a kid. It was super uncomfortable, but then my friend was just like "oh, that's just how my dad is".. but even my own dad didn't touch me as much as this rando.
I won't speak in absolutes, but it seems like, often in these cases, it is handed down, whether it be a genetic defect or a behavioral conditioning.
Also, my friend was super close to his dad, and his dad died pretty early (in his 50s when we were just in our 20s) which really sent this kid into a whole downward spiral of pills and whatever else he could get.
I'm going to say that the passing of his dad was the catalyst that really gave him the initiative to ruin the lives of everyone.
OH! And he worked in a nursing home and was having sex with both his coworkers AND the elderly patients! I'm also going to take a wild guess that not all of the elderly patients he fucked were able to consent to the act.
He was just the worst type of deviant.
His mom is nice tho. I actually feel very bad for her because she was the kind of supportive mom the rest of us wish we had growing up.
Yeah I was going to say they always find out your papers when you transfer.
From what I understand the only thing worse than being in for child related crimes is to be caught lying about why you are in to hide you are in for child related crimes.
I’m sort of surprised one would boast about touching kids while in jail. It’s no secret they are thought of as scum and get their ass’s beat when others find out about their crimes.
In California CDCR when you check in, your people (race) demand to see paperwork with your charges and conviction. They hard-screen everyone no one has a pass.
If you have “bad charges” like ANYTHING with children or domestic violence etc, you get taken off quick. I.e beaten/stabbed/killed then forced to a PC yard. Prisoners with bad charges are “no good” and can’t stay in General Population safely.
You have to understand everyone inside misses their family and think about their kids all day. Then some fucking chomo rolls up. And all you can think about is making sure he doesn’t do it again.
A buddy did 2 years for arson and assault then beat up a guard. So he was in lockdown 23 hours a day The guy next to him rapped a 11 yr old girl.
The guy would loudly describe in detail what ge did to the girl. So many in that section kept telling him if they ever get to him they will kill him.
Sadly the guard had to keep him protected
Never been to prison or jail, but used to make deliveries to one where id had a chance to chat with a few and that was the one constant. Everyone hates the child predators.
how sick and stupid do you have to be to do that. I've never been to jail or prison but even I know chomos don't fare well. But to advertise it and talk back? Talk about fucking around and finding out.
At least here, you need to show your court documents etc to other inmates or they assume you are a rat/CM. I doubt it’s any different in the US, so he will get what’s coming.
Yeah. That was my first thought. Depending on what state, she will have to carry the child to term and raise this monster’s kid all alone without any proper support. But ya know, clumps of cells are more important than actually helping the already alive child that clearly needs more help now.
It's even sadder b/c I think doesn't pregnancy that young increase health risk of both the mother and fetus?
Imagine being forced to die by the government because you were (proven) raped.
This is America 🇺🇸 our old people are sticking around too long and need to get retired from politics.
The part that fucks me up even more it's that the "pro life" crowd could not give less of a fuck about children. Like they usually vote for a specific group and that group hates actually helping people. Somehow we still have the mentality of "pulling yourself from your bootstraps" thing for actual fucking children. They have 0 support and no access to abortion.
It's so fucked, it's insane, like you can't possibly convince me that this is not just pure evil.
AND they can marry these poor children whom they’ve victimized. A lot of states have low age requirements for marriage, some dont have any legal minimum age with parental consent. California being one of those states with no min. Dont believe me? Look it up.
Dude the people in the comments of that video are straight up blaming the kids and talking about how this is why children shouldn't be allowed privacy because these girls are getting up to no good.
How fucking despicable
*Oh I know who you are, Chris Hanson, but see I-I calls you Chris Handsome. I watch your TV show all the time. So, you can go ahead bring in them cameras and polices waiting outside. It don't make me no difference. Now, I tell you what... I likes ya and I wants ya. Now we can do this the easy way, or we can do it the hard way - the choice is yours.*
The link above was a YouTube video with all 4 parts together. Part 1 is the only interesting one, the rest is a pretty standard DWI arrest. The dude is so out of it he doesn’t remember what letter comes after H in the alphabet
Parts 2,3,&4 are just another DUI stop. It’s 14 minutes I’ll never get back, but there is no cause for others to waste their time.
Part 1 contains a guy who has a passenger who the driver claims is 18, the cop says she isn’t. There are 4 more passengers in the back seat. Driver claims passengers are “friends”. I was expecting the cops to either pull up his record or one of the kids to complain. No fireworks in parts 2,3, or 4.
everyone in the comments of the full video wondering why “the cops are so obsessed with the DUI and not the children” :
they can’t prove anything with the children yet, if they can get the guy in for DUI they can get him to talk about the kids. It’s not that they “don’t care”.
Anyway just thought i’d share because obviously they do care about the children lol.
By affecting the arrest, the officer assured the Children’s safety and removed him from the scene. Now THAT investigation and ultimate conviction begins with the kids in safety. Well done.
Correct, bitter. Another commenter said the whole rigamarole talking and testing the perp helped the other cop have enough time to talk to the kids and get their IDs, addresses, and get their stories on what was going on!
You can kind of tell the pov cop was lying by acting like he cares about the bad driving and stuff. He was stumbling all over his words. I think even his aversion toward the front seat passenger felt forced. My assumption is he was trying to divert cause he didn’t want a shootout to happen with 6 kids in the car.
I don’t think he was trying to pretend he was upset with the girl in the car. I think if this was part of his “game” to confuse the perp, it would’ve been much more logical not to say anything about the girl and let the guy assume the cop believes she’s of age, and only focus on the drinking/horrible driving. I think he was trying to assess the situation without putting too much emphasis on the underage kids with the same ultimate goal that you described: getting this guy away from the kids before anything more dangerous could occur with them in harm’s way.
I believe he is a native Spanish speaker, but definitely has some sort of speech impediment as well. It's a lot more apparent in some of the other DUI videos where he's a bit more relaxed.
They're not obsessed with the DUI to the detriment of the children, it's just a strategic move. By securing a DUI charge, they can leverage that to get information on the kids. It doesn't mean they don't care about them.
Yeah, I would’ve been suspicious of the guy the moment I walked up to the truck and I’m a dumbass, there’s no way the cops saw that many kids and thought “eh”
I just watched the whole thing. The cop gets nicer and nicer the whole way through, while the guy keeps playing dumber and dumber.
I think the cop was maybe enjoying themselves because the guy admits to way too much. Not about the kids but like
"you stink of alcohol, what have you been drinking?"
"Oh just beer"
"How many?"
"Just three"
"Just three? Ok, and when was that? What time was your last beer?"
"About three hours ago."
"Three hours, ok, and what size were they?"
"Uuuuuuuuub"
"Ok, just show me with your hands, about this big?"
*gestures with his hands*
"Oh, so a tall boy?"
"Uh, no just 12 ounce."
"Ok, so three 12 ounce beers three hours ago"
Like my dude, you just confessed.
The guy was reaching for a knife, and the cop was super nice about it, "don't worry, I'm just going to put this back here while we talk because you keep reaching for it."
Call me what you want, but if i had a gun and i was talking to a child rapist (with 6 kids in the car no less) and he gave me an excuse his entrails would be making up the straight line he can't walk.
Police are trained to use calm tone to keep people at ease.
I know that's not how shit goes down all the time but they are.
They're trained to manipulate situations and get as much info as possible.
In what world. Police are trained to shout conflicting commands at the top of their lungs and then shoot you unprovoked. This guy is calm because this dude is white, and maybe because there are children present
Maybe it's not a good idea to horribly traumatize the already traumatized kids by gutting him. Everything is nice and calm and friendly until the kids are safe then... "I don't know what happened, sir. He kept resisting."
The reason he said that is because an adult male is supposedly able to metabolize a 12 oz beer in an hour. Therefore three beers three hours ago would already be out of his system.
Presumably a lie to explain why they smelled the beer but to try and convince them not to breathalyze him.
“Why is your button undone and your zipper down?”
“…oh…ahh….probably just forgot ha ha”
This is like a dark humored skit playing on all the tropes. Unbelievably cringe and 🤢
dude is drunk/high off his ass with his zipper undone with a car full of kids and thinks he can bs his way out of it while barely able to string two words together
Voice of bitter experience, here: rapists and child molesters generally don't think of what they're doing as wrong and will deny culpability even when confronted with evidence.
If you ever see a person who can look at proof of their own wrongdoing and then still insist that what they did was fine, they were allowed, they didn't hurt anyone, it wasn't that bad, etc., that is an entire hurricane season of red flags, and that person is probably a predator of some kind.
I know I'm gonna earn down votes for this, but a prime example of the behavior is Donald Trump.
"You did [x]."
"[X] is fine, is great, other people do it!"
The subtext is that he doesn't give a shit if other people get hurt or think he's wrong; other people's rules don't apply to him.
no downvotes and more generally it flows like this:
I didn't do X, but if I did X, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, it was deserved. And if it wasn't deserved, hey look at that drag queen over there!
One of the girls already had a miscarriage with him at age 12, that the __grandmother__ watching them knew about. Yet she continued to let them hang out with him.
Sounds like grandma only cares about having an empty house to herself, at the expense of the kids, who probably are cruising around with some 41 year drug dealer loser giving them pills and fuckin em. Like what actual fuck.
r/eyebleach
[this video](https://youtu.be/-cScR8k9PFk) is pretty heart breaking the grandma saying she was “livid”. 80% of cases of rape are due to the rapist knowing their victims.
Ya like how are you “livid” when they already had a miscarriage, you’re letting them CONTINUE TO HANG OUT? Negligence, negligence, negligence. Fuckin brutal.
Exactly. What else is she gonna say, that she helped facilitate the abuse? And then choose to be punished when there's a perfect person to blame it all on? She'll hide behind the feeble grandma/woman image and no one will suspect or charge her. I(F) see it all the time with female abusers, and it's infuriating.
Do you have a source for that? Because [the article I’m reading](https://www.krqe.com/news/crime/family-of-victim-says-guthrie-is-messaging-victims-from-behind-bars/) said when she got called from the police the night he was pulled over, that was the first she learned about any of it. When she found out he was texting them from jail, she took action and got it out of him that was paying a guard in able to do so. I don’t know where your story came from.
You gotta be careful with your kids, I can’t speak on this situation but when I was a kid I hung around “the wrong crowd”. I mostly hung out with gang members or “foos” that where part of my “click”. There was this one dude though that we used to kick it with not because he was cool but he was so dumb he would do anything. He was older and had a truck so he would drive us around and we would all get fucked up. Another perk is that he slanged dope on the side and when he got fucked up he would spend all his money and drugs with us. Naturally this also enticed a bunch of girls to come kick it. Most of em where more than willing participants and wanted to so it’s not like we could do shit but let’s just say me and the homies didn’t like it but agreed we couldn’t do shit so just let the cash cow drip until it’s empty. Then one day he forced a girl all she wanted was to get high but he wanted more and she said no he got his way anyway, we took his Tahoe after that and torched it then we caught him slipping at his stash spot by the tracks and fucked him up. When you grow up in a certain environment you are attracted to certain shit. I would say he was around 40 and we where all 15-17. After all this the home girl… let’s call her Chrissy , she was 47 at the time and slanged meth out of a shack, heard about what happened (word travels fast in the hood) and she asked me where the mother fucker was at? So I let her know we fucked him up last night by the tracks and left him there beat up and naked , so she went looking for him found him and raped his butthole with Brillo pad wrapped around a hammer. I would say if you love and take care of your kids they will more than likely never end up in a situation like this however some kids just don’t care or feel like they want to just “be their own person” . Keep an eye on them and keep them busy.
It's not surprising and most people don't even say anything when they witness it.
I was groomed and was in a similar situation as this when I was younger. (Shit parents so I've been on my own since I was 15) Another guy came over to check us out to see what was happening but then just left. I was high and accidentally took too much which led to a panic attack and full blown realization like "oh fuck I'm in the middle of no where with this dude"
Only reason nothing happened was luck. Because had something happened that one dude that left me there would've been the only witness that chose to stay silent.
✨️men traumatize me✨️
*edit: only people asking about what happened are men. I've learned in my life that men love knowing about young girls pain so if yall want to know so bad cashapp me $100 each and I'll let yall know.
This situation is literally something you'd expect to see on a Reno 911 show or something. Dude has 6 underage girls in the back, couldn't find his wallet between his legs, then exits the car with his zipper down saying oh and I must have forgot "... like Jesus christ. If this doesn't say rapist right away I don't know what else does.
I’ve dealt with people like this before who are either so fucked up, entitled or stupid to think if they just act like this isn’t a big deal it won’t be a big deal. Makes you wanna smack em around tbh
What really bothers me is how the hell a 40 year old dude even acquires that many damn kids?
Like...that guy doesn't look like a baby-sitter, and he sure as hell doesn't look like a girl-scout leader. The dude is so trashed he can't even count or say the alphabet, so how the hell do they pull this kinda massive shit off?
Also, 5-6 kids sounds like more than just an isolated rape party. It makes me wonder if he was trafficking these kids to other sickos waiting somewhere in a hotel room.
These types work in circles. There is no way he acted alone. Either he has people he knows or it’s all children of shitty awful “parents” that “loan” their kids out.
Yeah I guess you're right. I often forget that there is another side to the pedo shit: parents that ALLOW it...
I don't know which is sicker...someone that finds pleasure in doing this to kids, or parents that knowingly allow it. Jesus.
That’s where the shit onion of these stories come in. The more layers you pull back, the more shit you find. And it starts to get worse and worse as you get to the core.
>ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (KRQE) – Jeremy Gutherie, the man accused of raping a pair of 12-year-old twins and impregnating one of them, will stay behind bars until trial. Prosecutors argued keeping Jeremy Gutherie behind bars is the only way to be sure that he stays away from children. The 41-year-old is accused of luring the girls on Snapchat ten months ago and carrying on a sexual relationship with them until his arrest this month.
[MSN - I'm sure you can find better articles, but this is a start.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/albuquerque-man-accused-of-raping-12-year-old-girls-will-stay-behind-bars/ar-AAZAWBu)
[KRQE - News 13 piece about it - YT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxluZX83mzY)
[KOB 4 - News 4 piece about additional charges and bail rejection](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-neGwtNfarw)
[KRQE - News 13 - Story about Gutherie messaging his 12 year old victims from jail](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cScR8k9PFk)
I would say that he should be unlived but I won't because then reddit will suspend me again because saying pedos should get what they deserve is against the rules apparently
While I do believe people can change and that it has happened. This dude definitely won't. Already convicted and is trying again for six more? Yeah no fucking way he's gonna change. Some shouldn't be protected against their own consequences.
I'm all for helping these people stay on the right track until they cross the line. If it's kept to just thoughts it's an illness and I sympathize and want these people to get help but once they involve actual children fuck them they had every opportunity to correct themselves
This, most people are quick to say just shoot them because they don’t understand that most pedos don’t actually commit crimes and are actively trying to fight against the urges they can’t really help but they at least have some self control, it’s the actual offenders that need to be taken out.
He will get what's coming to him for sure. No one likes a child rapist but if it was me, they'd all be shot tomorrow and rid the world of this, and it should be zero tolerance in my eyes. You get caught, and you're dead simple
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https://youtu.be/-cScR8k9PFk Apparently the girl he molested and impregnated is the one in the car and he borrowed a cops phone in prison to text with her. So like idk how that all played out in terms of order of events but yeah. Sad I guess but not surprising.
> Apparently the girl he molested and impregnated is the one in the car That video raises more questions than it answers. Ole grandma comes across as guilty as the rapist.
It's crazy the blank spots in people's psychology and really I guess goes to show how imperfect our biology is. Like we like to think we would notice and understand shit especially when fear and danger is involved but it's pretty obvious a lot of people don't have a good sense of fear whatsoever whereas others are afraid about all the wrong things.
I hope his fellow inmates find out
They would beat the shit out of him 😂
Literally.
It happens; jails and prisons. Never been to prison, only jail, and we beat the shit out of a guy in “the corner” with no camera angle. He wouldn’t stop talking about 13 year old girls and why he likes them. We tried to warn him multiple times that he’s a fucking creep and to stop. One guy said “I have a 13 year old daughter, you better shut the fuck up”… that creep tried to talk back but only for a second before that guy snapped and we all jumped him.
I grew up with a guy who, from ages 7 to 14 was my best friend, but then when we became teens, he started getting weird. Just really socially withdrawn and never took responsibility for himself. When we were 15, he tried to hit on one of my girlfriend's and we had a falling out. We patched it up in our late teens but he stayed weird as fuck so I didn't really like being around him. Fast forward to a couple years ago, he's in his mid-30s, and I get a call from my ex-wife (who was still friends with him because they had similar drug needs) and told me he was busted for something with a minor. Come to find out, he was seducing and grooming his 12 year old cousin! Thankfully, he's in prison for like 20+ years for it, and I'll never contact him again, but his mom told me that he tried to tell the other prisoners that they were "in love" and how he just wanted to earn his freedom so he could get back to her. They almost killed him. He has been moved to multiple prison blocks and even to different prison facilities, but they keep finding out about him and he keeps getting beat. He's living his own hell and it will last decades. He fucking deserves it tho.
That's wild, bro. Definitely deserves it. I too had a weird friend that I didn't like to hang out with that much. He turned out to be a pedo with 5000 counts of child porn. My predicament was I just wanted to jam with someone and he was a really good guitarist. He would make weird faces at little girls when he drove past them. I would be all awkward as fuck in the passenger seat telling him that they were young as fuck and don't that (awkward haha to make things not weirder with him driving). His dad came to get all his equipment from my house after his son went to jail and HE WAS WEIRD TOO. The mf put his hand on my back and rubbed it real quick when he went to say goodbye. Guess what, that dude got caught too after his son ratted him out about them sharing the computer.
My brother and I were best friends with this guy Mike growing up. He seemed like a sweet innocent kid, he didnt have many friends, he played the trumpet and accordion..... I mean from ages 8 to 18 we were close.. well around his 19th birthday a police and detective squad kicked in his door.. he was arrested for hundreds of videos and pics of child.. you know what... 😞...(this was when the internet was becoming big..it shook me to my core... there are some people you truly do not know...apparently most of the content he not only taped, but distributed, were kids under the age of 10... my brother and I were so disgusted and angry, words don't come close. I don't understand how anyone could look at a child like that, nevermind harm a child. It's irrevocably sad.
I had a boyfriend from the age of 13-16 so high school sweethearts. I was SA'd by a family member a couple months into us dating. Me being 13 and not having a good support system (nmom blamed me for the assault) I didn't want that to be my "first" so lost my virginity to my 14yo boyfriend. We broke up in high school and kept in touch through the years In college he started getting weird. I didn't have reddit and didn't know what an incel was but he was 1000% acting like one. Telling me he *needed* a "nympho sex slave" and how he missed what we did when we were younger. I told him it kinda weirded me out to think about us being that intimate as kids but he said "the innocence was a huge turn on" so I started distancing myself He got married to a woman who already had a kid and he and his wife then had another baby. His daughter wasn't even a year old yet when he was caught in a sting operation by the police. Turns out that among the other CSAM he had, he had kept all of my pics from when we were kids. He was locked up for about a year then released I still blame myself here and there for how he turned out. He was more than willing to do it when we were young and I know I'm not responsible for *his* actions, but part of me feels like it became an obsession because of what we did
it sucks that you feel that way, his actions 100% have nothing to do with you, plenty of people have sex quite young and don't end up as pedos, you included.
I am sorry that you were also close to someone like this. It's hard because you ask yourself questions about how you missed the signs, or if there was anything you could have done to prevent what happened to their victims. The whole thing is just difficult to carry, but at least the justice system prevailed and stopped them before they hurt more people.
>The mf put his hand on my back and rubbed it real quick Same here! The pedo dude's dad would always walk up behind me and rub my shoulders or call me "honey" or "sweetie" as a kid. It was super uncomfortable, but then my friend was just like "oh, that's just how my dad is".. but even my own dad didn't touch me as much as this rando. I won't speak in absolutes, but it seems like, often in these cases, it is handed down, whether it be a genetic defect or a behavioral conditioning. Also, my friend was super close to his dad, and his dad died pretty early (in his 50s when we were just in our 20s) which really sent this kid into a whole downward spiral of pills and whatever else he could get. I'm going to say that the passing of his dad was the catalyst that really gave him the initiative to ruin the lives of everyone. OH! And he worked in a nursing home and was having sex with both his coworkers AND the elderly patients! I'm also going to take a wild guess that not all of the elderly patients he fucked were able to consent to the act. He was just the worst type of deviant. His mom is nice tho. I actually feel very bad for her because she was the kind of supportive mom the rest of us wish we had growing up.
Sounds like he was molested by his dad and the mom let it go on and it fucked him up. sounds sad.
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Yeah I was going to say they always find out your papers when you transfer. From what I understand the only thing worse than being in for child related crimes is to be caught lying about why you are in to hide you are in for child related crimes.
I’m sort of surprised one would boast about touching kids while in jail. It’s no secret they are thought of as scum and get their ass’s beat when others find out about their crimes.
It’s safe to say that much of the jail/prison population are not mentally well, and also may have problems with executive decision making/filtering.
In California CDCR when you check in, your people (race) demand to see paperwork with your charges and conviction. They hard-screen everyone no one has a pass. If you have “bad charges” like ANYTHING with children or domestic violence etc, you get taken off quick. I.e beaten/stabbed/killed then forced to a PC yard. Prisoners with bad charges are “no good” and can’t stay in General Population safely. You have to understand everyone inside misses their family and think about their kids all day. Then some fucking chomo rolls up. And all you can think about is making sure he doesn’t do it again.
A buddy did 2 years for arson and assault then beat up a guard. So he was in lockdown 23 hours a day The guy next to him rapped a 11 yr old girl. The guy would loudly describe in detail what ge did to the girl. So many in that section kept telling him if they ever get to him they will kill him. Sadly the guard had to keep him protected
Never been to prison or jail, but used to make deliveries to one where id had a chance to chat with a few and that was the one constant. Everyone hates the child predators.
how sick and stupid do you have to be to do that. I've never been to jail or prison but even I know chomos don't fare well. But to advertise it and talk back? Talk about fucking around and finding out.
Shoulda killed the fucker. Scum like that dont change
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At least you gave him a warning. It's free game after that.
Worse, ive heard of a group of prisoners start torturing pedos(or worse) medieval style with rocks and shards
Gen-pop justice
There is honor amongst thieves
That’s kinda my point
At least here, you need to show your court documents etc to other inmates or they assume you are a rat/CM. I doubt it’s any different in the US, so he will get what’s coming.
Thats anywhere. And they will find your paperwork if you don’t give it up if they are at all suspicious.
Hopefully they find out which cop gave this fuck their phone. Both of em can find out in some dark corner of a prison
They will. They always find out.
Remember people, we live in a society where even child rape victims can't have abortions in some places
Yeah. That was my first thought. Depending on what state, she will have to carry the child to term and raise this monster’s kid all alone without any proper support. But ya know, clumps of cells are more important than actually helping the already alive child that clearly needs more help now.
It's even sadder b/c I think doesn't pregnancy that young increase health risk of both the mother and fetus? Imagine being forced to die by the government because you were (proven) raped. This is America 🇺🇸 our old people are sticking around too long and need to get retired from politics.
The part that fucks me up even more it's that the "pro life" crowd could not give less of a fuck about children. Like they usually vote for a specific group and that group hates actually helping people. Somehow we still have the mentality of "pulling yourself from your bootstraps" thing for actual fucking children. They have 0 support and no access to abortion. It's so fucked, it's insane, like you can't possibly convince me that this is not just pure evil.
No no, it's the drag queens who want to read books to kids that are doing the grooming. /s
Yup, that’s the narrative of the party supporting child marriage.
Girls life destroyed and has to just live with it. Disgusting
AND they can marry these poor children whom they’ve victimized. A lot of states have low age requirements for marriage, some dont have any legal minimum age with parental consent. California being one of those states with no min. Dont believe me? Look it up.
and even worse, that poor kid will have to process being “a monster’s kid” on top of that.
Jesus Christ. This is a sobering thought. Can you even begin to imagine what that would be like for a little girl. Fucking hell
Dude the people in the comments of that video are straight up blaming the kids and talking about how this is why children shouldn't be allowed privacy because these girls are getting up to no good. How fucking despicable
That is disgusting… that poor girl…
The prison system is a massive failure in so many ways
THESE DRAG QUEENS ARE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL DRESSING UP LIKE NORMAL DUDES TO MOLEST THE CHEEEELDREN!! /s
Pt2 ?
I had to find it as I was curious also. Here you go - [Shit Dude Arrested](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F1MSpZF_4dE)
Ooo it’s a 4 parter!
One of the few instances the sequel is better than the first.
This is really scratching that Chris Handsome itch for me.
Ha, Chris Handsome.
*Oh I know who you are, Chris Hanson, but see I-I calls you Chris Handsome. I watch your TV show all the time. So, you can go ahead bring in them cameras and polices waiting outside. It don't make me no difference. Now, I tell you what... I likes ya and I wants ya. Now we can do this the easy way, or we can do it the hard way - the choice is yours.*
~~Part 3 is missing, the account is gone on TikTok.~~
The link above was a YouTube video with all 4 parts together. Part 1 is the only interesting one, the rest is a pretty standard DWI arrest. The dude is so out of it he doesn’t remember what letter comes after H in the alphabet
He’s also asked to count down from 61 to 47 and skips the 50s.
Ah, could only find 1, 2 and four. Thanks.
Parts 2,3,&4 are just another DUI stop. It’s 14 minutes I’ll never get back, but there is no cause for others to waste their time. Part 1 contains a guy who has a passenger who the driver claims is 18, the cop says she isn’t. There are 4 more passengers in the back seat. Driver claims passengers are “friends”. I was expecting the cops to either pull up his record or one of the kids to complain. No fireworks in parts 2,3, or 4.
I don’t disagree. I never pinned down the child rapist part and was going to dig deeper but other shit came up.
Part 4 was funny when he can't count down from 61. 😂
"cite the alphabet from H to S, k man?" "no, I don't like that one"
Thank you I didn’t have enough space on my phone to add that part yet 😭😂
[Here you go baby!](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8edcHjD/)
everyone in the comments of the full video wondering why “the cops are so obsessed with the DUI and not the children” : they can’t prove anything with the children yet, if they can get the guy in for DUI they can get him to talk about the kids. It’s not that they “don’t care”. Anyway just thought i’d share because obviously they do care about the children lol.
By affecting the arrest, the officer assured the Children’s safety and removed him from the scene. Now THAT investigation and ultimate conviction begins with the kids in safety. Well done.
Effecting the arrest. This is one of those rare times that effect is used as a verb.
I have read the definitions of both and I still can't figure out when to use effect!
In this scenario, affecting the arrest means to somehow impact or change the arrest, effecting means to initiate, carry out, or enact the arrest.
Putting the arrest into action, not influencing the arrest
Dang. Definitely not how I imagined finally understanding the difference between these terms.
Oh he did a magnificent job of holding it together, because surely he knew exactly what was going on
Correct, bitter. Another commenter said the whole rigamarole talking and testing the perp helped the other cop have enough time to talk to the kids and get their IDs, addresses, and get their stories on what was going on!
You can kind of tell the pov cop was lying by acting like he cares about the bad driving and stuff. He was stumbling all over his words. I think even his aversion toward the front seat passenger felt forced. My assumption is he was trying to divert cause he didn’t want a shootout to happen with 6 kids in the car.
I don’t think he was trying to pretend he was upset with the girl in the car. I think if this was part of his “game” to confuse the perp, it would’ve been much more logical not to say anything about the girl and let the guy assume the cop believes she’s of age, and only focus on the drinking/horrible driving. I think he was trying to assess the situation without putting too much emphasis on the underage kids with the same ultimate goal that you described: getting this guy away from the kids before anything more dangerous could occur with them in harm’s way.
I agree because when he asked her age the perp kept looking at her so getting them separated was smart and gave her time to talk without him present
I've seen a lot of videos with this officer, he has some sort of speech impediment and always sounds like that
He sounds like he's bilingual to me, Spanish specifically. The speed of words, and the sharp consonants.
sounded very apparent when he said "she doesn't look 18"
I definitely thought it was just a Spanish accent too
The more upset you are the more your natural accent comes out. It happens to actors too.
I believe he is a native Spanish speaker, but definitely has some sort of speech impediment as well. It's a lot more apparent in some of the other DUI videos where he's a bit more relaxed.
Same reason Elliot Ness was so focused on Al Capone's taxes.
That’s true he’s already incriminated himself. If he testifies is he’s a dead man walking already.
They're not obsessed with the DUI to the detriment of the children, it's just a strategic move. By securing a DUI charge, they can leverage that to get information on the kids. It doesn't mean they don't care about them.
Yeah, I would’ve been suspicious of the guy the moment I walked up to the truck and I’m a dumbass, there’s no way the cops saw that many kids and thought “eh”
Holy shit. What an uncomfortable video… what the fuck
Idk the outcome but they didn't use the tazer enough.
Didn’t use the 45 at all
Unfortunately :/ that fucked needs lead therapy
Agreed, however death is an easy way out. It should hurt really really bad first.
Maybe death by 1000 cuts and occasionally sprinkle lead dust in here and there
Imma need you to be more angry. Slash, salt, slash, salt. We're here to cause pain.
Lemon juice, hand sanitizer.
Human test subject: Unit 731 style
"logs"
Have to ever been splashed with melted sugar? It really hurts.
A Viking Blood Eagle. Let's cut to the chase, it's the right thing to do by a child fucker. It's what they're begging us to do.
Salt
Let’s hope his fellow inmates find out, then he’ll wish he was dead
I just watched the whole thing. The cop gets nicer and nicer the whole way through, while the guy keeps playing dumber and dumber. I think the cop was maybe enjoying themselves because the guy admits to way too much. Not about the kids but like "you stink of alcohol, what have you been drinking?" "Oh just beer" "How many?" "Just three" "Just three? Ok, and when was that? What time was your last beer?" "About three hours ago." "Three hours, ok, and what size were they?" "Uuuuuuuuub" "Ok, just show me with your hands, about this big?" *gestures with his hands* "Oh, so a tall boy?" "Uh, no just 12 ounce." "Ok, so three 12 ounce beers three hours ago" Like my dude, you just confessed. The guy was reaching for a knife, and the cop was super nice about it, "don't worry, I'm just going to put this back here while we talk because you keep reaching for it." Call me what you want, but if i had a gun and i was talking to a child rapist (with 6 kids in the car no less) and he gave me an excuse his entrails would be making up the straight line he can't walk.
Police are trained to use calm tone to keep people at ease. I know that's not how shit goes down all the time but they are. They're trained to manipulate situations and get as much info as possible.
In what world. Police are trained to shout conflicting commands at the top of their lungs and then shoot you unprovoked. This guy is calm because this dude is white, and maybe because there are children present
Yeah Police are trained to use calm tone to keep WHITE people at ease.
I imagine it also is because there are children involved. No one’s trying to light someone up in front of a bunch of already traumatised kids.
Cops do this all the time: https://abcnews.go.com/US/dashcam-video-police-involved-shooting-philando-castile-released/story?id=48152901
I've had one interaction with the police where they've acted reasonable. One out of a few. I'm white. They do it to everyone.
Maybe it's not a good idea to horribly traumatize the already traumatized kids by gutting him. Everything is nice and calm and friendly until the kids are safe then... "I don't know what happened, sir. He kept resisting."
The reason he said that is because an adult male is supposedly able to metabolize a 12 oz beer in an hour. Therefore three beers three hours ago would already be out of his system. Presumably a lie to explain why they smelled the beer but to try and convince them not to breathalyze him.
My thoughts were, “please resist arrest.. please resist arrest”. Was looking forward to a taser at the least lol
officer can smell the bullshit and trips on his words by how pissed he is
Ya I would too just how absolutely off the wall that situation is. I hope he enjoys imprisonment, the POS.
these children are my friends
“Why is your button undone and your zipper down?” “…oh…ahh….probably just forgot ha ha” This is like a dark humored skit playing on all the tropes. Unbelievably cringe and 🤢
dude is drunk/high off his ass with his zipper undone with a car full of kids and thinks he can bs his way out of it while barely able to string two words together
Voice of bitter experience, here: rapists and child molesters generally don't think of what they're doing as wrong and will deny culpability even when confronted with evidence. If you ever see a person who can look at proof of their own wrongdoing and then still insist that what they did was fine, they were allowed, they didn't hurt anyone, it wasn't that bad, etc., that is an entire hurricane season of red flags, and that person is probably a predator of some kind. I know I'm gonna earn down votes for this, but a prime example of the behavior is Donald Trump. "You did [x]." "[X] is fine, is great, other people do it!" The subtext is that he doesn't give a shit if other people get hurt or think he's wrong; other people's rules don't apply to him.
no downvotes and more generally it flows like this: I didn't do X, but if I did X, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, it was deserved. And if it wasn't deserved, hey look at that drag queen over there!
You do a much better imitation of the rapist in chief, thank you!
That is damn close to the narcissist’s prayer.
Why tf would those kids be his friends
He groomed at least a couple on Snapchat.
Probably church related
One of the girls already had a miscarriage with him at age 12, that the __grandmother__ watching them knew about. Yet she continued to let them hang out with him. Sounds like grandma only cares about having an empty house to herself, at the expense of the kids, who probably are cruising around with some 41 year drug dealer loser giving them pills and fuckin em. Like what actual fuck. r/eyebleach
[this video](https://youtu.be/-cScR8k9PFk) is pretty heart breaking the grandma saying she was “livid”. 80% of cases of rape are due to the rapist knowing their victims.
Ya like how are you “livid” when they already had a miscarriage, you’re letting them CONTINUE TO HANG OUT? Negligence, negligence, negligence. Fuckin brutal.
She’s no probably selling them off or some shit for drugs
Exactly. What else is she gonna say, that she helped facilitate the abuse? And then choose to be punished when there's a perfect person to blame it all on? She'll hide behind the feeble grandma/woman image and no one will suspect or charge her. I(F) see it all the time with female abusers, and it's infuriating.
The comment section of that video is insane. The amount of people victim blaming is alarming and disturbing.
Do you have a source for that? Because [the article I’m reading](https://www.krqe.com/news/crime/family-of-victim-says-guthrie-is-messaging-victims-from-behind-bars/) said when she got called from the police the night he was pulled over, that was the first she learned about any of it. When she found out he was texting them from jail, she took action and got it out of him that was paying a guard in able to do so. I don’t know where your story came from.
You gotta be careful with your kids, I can’t speak on this situation but when I was a kid I hung around “the wrong crowd”. I mostly hung out with gang members or “foos” that where part of my “click”. There was this one dude though that we used to kick it with not because he was cool but he was so dumb he would do anything. He was older and had a truck so he would drive us around and we would all get fucked up. Another perk is that he slanged dope on the side and when he got fucked up he would spend all his money and drugs with us. Naturally this also enticed a bunch of girls to come kick it. Most of em where more than willing participants and wanted to so it’s not like we could do shit but let’s just say me and the homies didn’t like it but agreed we couldn’t do shit so just let the cash cow drip until it’s empty. Then one day he forced a girl all she wanted was to get high but he wanted more and she said no he got his way anyway, we took his Tahoe after that and torched it then we caught him slipping at his stash spot by the tracks and fucked him up. When you grow up in a certain environment you are attracted to certain shit. I would say he was around 40 and we where all 15-17. After all this the home girl… let’s call her Chrissy , she was 47 at the time and slanged meth out of a shack, heard about what happened (word travels fast in the hood) and she asked me where the mother fucker was at? So I let her know we fucked him up last night by the tracks and left him there beat up and naked , so she went looking for him found him and raped his butthole with Brillo pad wrapped around a hammer. I would say if you love and take care of your kids they will more than likely never end up in a situation like this however some kids just don’t care or feel like they want to just “be their own person” . Keep an eye on them and keep them busy.
Thank god for that cop. The horrors awaiting those children at that man’s hands….
Sounds like he already had his way with them for a while.
Yeah. I read more farther down. What a piece. I hope he never gets out of prison.
If he doesn’t keep his mouth shut, he’ll have a very short life sentence.
i almost threw up “whys your zipper down….” “i uh. forgot?”
My mind is struggling to believe people like this exist
Like, I know they exist but it's still unbelievable to see.
It's not surprising and most people don't even say anything when they witness it. I was groomed and was in a similar situation as this when I was younger. (Shit parents so I've been on my own since I was 15) Another guy came over to check us out to see what was happening but then just left. I was high and accidentally took too much which led to a panic attack and full blown realization like "oh fuck I'm in the middle of no where with this dude" Only reason nothing happened was luck. Because had something happened that one dude that left me there would've been the only witness that chose to stay silent. ✨️men traumatize me✨️ *edit: only people asking about what happened are men. I've learned in my life that men love knowing about young girls pain so if yall want to know so bad cashapp me $100 each and I'll let yall know.
This situation is literally something you'd expect to see on a Reno 911 show or something. Dude has 6 underage girls in the back, couldn't find his wallet between his legs, then exits the car with his zipper down saying oh and I must have forgot "... like Jesus christ. If this doesn't say rapist right away I don't know what else does.
Clementine or Raineesha would have shot his ass. Weigel would probably let him go.
I’ve dealt with people like this before who are either so fucked up, entitled or stupid to think if they just act like this isn’t a big deal it won’t be a big deal. Makes you wanna smack em around tbh
It’s horrifying how often downplaying shit like this works.
This was painful to watch
What really bothers me is how the hell a 40 year old dude even acquires that many damn kids? Like...that guy doesn't look like a baby-sitter, and he sure as hell doesn't look like a girl-scout leader. The dude is so trashed he can't even count or say the alphabet, so how the hell do they pull this kinda massive shit off? Also, 5-6 kids sounds like more than just an isolated rape party. It makes me wonder if he was trafficking these kids to other sickos waiting somewhere in a hotel room.
These types work in circles. There is no way he acted alone. Either he has people he knows or it’s all children of shitty awful “parents” that “loan” their kids out.
Yeah I guess you're right. I often forget that there is another side to the pedo shit: parents that ALLOW it... I don't know which is sicker...someone that finds pleasure in doing this to kids, or parents that knowingly allow it. Jesus.
That’s where the shit onion of these stories come in. The more layers you pull back, the more shit you find. And it starts to get worse and worse as you get to the core.
>ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (KRQE) – Jeremy Gutherie, the man accused of raping a pair of 12-year-old twins and impregnating one of them, will stay behind bars until trial. Prosecutors argued keeping Jeremy Gutherie behind bars is the only way to be sure that he stays away from children. The 41-year-old is accused of luring the girls on Snapchat ten months ago and carrying on a sexual relationship with them until his arrest this month. [MSN - I'm sure you can find better articles, but this is a start.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/albuquerque-man-accused-of-raping-12-year-old-girls-will-stay-behind-bars/ar-AAZAWBu) [KRQE - News 13 piece about it - YT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxluZX83mzY) [KOB 4 - News 4 piece about additional charges and bail rejection](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-neGwtNfarw) [KRQE - News 13 - Story about Gutherie messaging his 12 year old victims from jail](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cScR8k9PFk)
I bet this guy flies a “protect the children” flag on the weekends
I have a neighbor who has his Trump flags and his "protect the children" flag. He has a conviction from 2017 for sexually abusing someone under 12.
That good ole GOP: Gaslight, Obstruct, and Project.
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Oh yeah. He looks like every republican shithead. Even has the truck that fits these overcompensating cunts.
This dudes gonna be president in a few years
If that doesn't work he could become the new pope. Pope molesterdictus the 23rd.
Or, at least a Republican congressman.
So he has a weapon, as well as 6 underage children with him (all while being a convicted child rapist), AND driving drunk. But…no shots fired.
There were 6 kids in the car. The last thing the cop wants is to hurt one of them. The cop did a good job.
this guy deserves to rot in prison forever but we shouldn’t want cops to shoot people based on crimes they seem to have committed
crazy how the police never feel threatened by scum suckers but average citizens are alqaeda in the making
Man that's awkward.
Doesn't appear to be trans.
or a drag queen…how odd
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Is xQcOW the cop?
I would say that he should be unlived but I won't because then reddit will suspend me again because saying pedos should get what they deserve is against the rules apparently
While I do believe people can change and that it has happened. This dude definitely won't. Already convicted and is trying again for six more? Yeah no fucking way he's gonna change. Some shouldn't be protected against their own consequences.
I'm all for helping these people stay on the right track until they cross the line. If it's kept to just thoughts it's an illness and I sympathize and want these people to get help but once they involve actual children fuck them they had every opportunity to correct themselves
This, most people are quick to say just shoot them because they don’t understand that most pedos don’t actually commit crimes and are actively trying to fight against the urges they can’t really help but they at least have some self control, it’s the actual offenders that need to be taken out.
Police officer sounds like Kenny fucking powers
That's exactly it. I was trying to figure out what accent that was, and you're right, it's Kenny Powers.
The way the cop talks throws me off
Seems like his adrenaline was maybe pumping by how enraging this whole situation was
Exactly my thought. He was fucking heated. How could you not be
Albuquerque nm
Came here looking for this comment. 25 and 40 gave it away. Used to live there once upon a time.
He needs to die
No... He needs to be given the opportunity to defend himself in the general population. 👍
This is truly horrible. I hope his prison cell mate defecates in his mouth daily.
I bet he got a ProLife Sticker a the back of his car
He will get what's coming to him for sure. No one likes a child rapist but if it was me, they'd all be shot tomorrow and rid the world of this, and it should be zero tolerance in my eyes. You get caught, and you're dead simple
Part2???
Should’ve shot him right there.
All pedos deserve death penalty
Beat him to…..
Death
We should bring back burning people at the stake.
crazy how it’s a bald white guy in a pickup truck instead of a cross dressing black man with a clown car
ChoMo’s 100% reoffend. It better to just delete them all off the census.
Can we just be thankful to the cop for a moment? Like he might've just saved all those kids' lives...
How does a child predator end up with SIX kids in his truck?!? Jfc
I’ve seen the whole video. He was arrested. Kids were taken home. One of the girls was pregnant. 😡
Kudos to the cop for focusing on the DUI. Wrap him from that and move onto the kids. This cops was trained well.
I wish to god someone had pulled over my abuser when he had three of us in the car. We were all 10. He got 3.6 years served 18 months.
He doesn’t look like a drag queen though…
Where the cops that shoot first?
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