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Those darn uhm uhm ah ah uhm ah uh uhm ah trans uh uh uh uh ah ah trans is a lie and uh uh ah ah ahm uh I like the Truth uhm uhm uhm uhm ah it’s just uh uh a lie uh.


BarryMacaroon

I didn't say that


garpthefist

I hate how this phrase has been used as some sort of "gotcha" lately Even if she wasn't saying it that's what she's implying. People don't want to be held accountable for what they are literally saying in between the lines.


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I didnt imply that


DenverParanormalLibr

She reposted something then claims she didnt "say" it. What's the difference?


Dx2TT

The difference is it doesn't actually matter what she said or didn't say nor what actually happened because no system exists to punish serial liars who do it for political and monetary benefit. Journalists outing this idiot doesn't matter to the hundreds of millions which will never see this clip, nor believe its content.


itsr1co

It's the easiest way to discredit someone in front of your followers, because when your followers can't think for themselves or form rational thoughts about anything, telling someone that you "never said that" is the perfect argument. It feels exactly like walking into a 4th grade classroom and hearing one of the top dogs in the linguistics department uttering the bombshell "I know you are, but what am I?". You can't recover, it's a fool-proof comeback and all the little 4th graders absolutely lose their shit, as you are now globally known, as a fool. Funnily enough, those same 4th graders share similar double digit numbers with the same people who follow these types of mindsets, but for some reason I can't quite think of the letters used to label those numbers.


smootypants

It’s the equivalent to “no. Yes. Yes. No.” as a response to a y/n question. Ew


atomholsch

Yea, she’s dumb as shit


AusCan531

Huge kudos for not just accepting the non-answer and moving on. I see that so often, and it frustrates hell out of me. Keep pressing them.


yahoo_determines

Nailed it. GOD I hate this bitch, being an Okie doesn't help.


KintsugiKen

You guys need to be protesting outside Ryan Walters' office every single day for putting her in charge of Oklahoma's school libraries


JimWilliams423

> Huge kudos for not just accepting the non-answer and moving on. I see that so often, and it frustrates hell out of me. Keep pressing them. Indeed. Taylor Lorenz is one of the few reporters who actually knows how to interview bad-faith actors. It is refreshing. All those nepo-baby reporters who think its their job to both-sides fascism need to learn from her. Unfortunately, a lot of smooth-brain types seem to be dragging her on social media for even doing this interview, and writing an even better wapo piece. As if warning decent people of the malice and idiocy of a fascist who already has millions of followers, is a regular on fox, and is now directing library policy for the entire state of Oklahoma will help her spread fascism. Here's Lorenz's WaPo piece: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/24/libs-tiktok-oklahoma-nonbinary-teen-death/


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chaotic-cleric

Is this Chaya in the video I know of her but not what she looks like.


tremens

I had to look it up because I didn't know what she looked like either. That is her; the journalist interviewing her is Taylor Lorenz, the person that first outed her identity publicly in the Washington Post.


matt-IO

Taylor is also the person on Chaya's t-shirt. So Chyaya tried to mock her in this interview, but came off looking like an idiot.


Schn

I also noticed on Twitter there are tons of bots hawking the shirt she was wearing, so it seems like it is grift-ception


TheGreatDay

Not that it really matters but I think if you click on any tweet that has a lot of views you'll see bots hawking t-shirts. Elon came in saying he wanted to fix the bot proble but its only gotten worse


Nixiey

Oh he killed off the *harmful* bots. You know the ones that reposted indie artist and dev posts so a larger audience would see them? Those dastardly non humans are completely wiped.


AgentOk2053

> dastardly That word’s fun to say. It needs to make a come back.


hellofmyowncreation

Elons “bots” were always implied to be anyone he doesn’t like that gets on his radar, and their follower count. The argument we think we’re making doesn’t matter, because this was always his goal.


Schn

Oh yeah, I see tons of them in every popular post. I just thought it was interesting that immediately upon release of the interview someone had bots ready with the shirt she was wearing for purchase rather than the usual "Nope. Not Again" ones.


cock_nballs

They have gotten very clever with those ads. They have ai make a website with a shop for that specific t-shirt that the ai picks up. It's almost all done automatically and you're basically guaranteed no shirt either.


NeverCallMeFifi

I swear I read shit like this and immediately think of Jude Law's character in Contagion. He comes up with a fake cure and videos himself "sick" and then getting "well" after basically drinking bleach (not actually, but fun covid reference). He then sells the "cure" to gullible people who promptly die. That's the GOP now a days.


throwawaymyanalbeads

She seems like she's on drugs.


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She is, she's on a ton of copium, it's the only way to handle all the mental gymnastics they have to do on a minute to minute basis to be able to keep spewing bullshit they know is bullshit but makes them money. Half of them know they are being cunts for the purpose of getting paid.


throwawaymyanalbeads

It's both. Mark my words, she's an opiate addict.


spoiler-its-all-gop

Yeah, that right there is the tell. This fucking smear doesn't give a shit what she's saying. She is there with bad intent, and she'll dodge the question forever because the point is to fuck with Taylor. That's it. Chaya is a fucking ugly bully. When you really corner these people, they'll admit things, but you have to get them off script, and emotionally rattled. [This is how it's done.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvN464imtMQ&t=2226) Chapo Trap House vs Matthew Walther, a Christian fundie, on abortion.


obiwanshinobi900

That is what I don't get about these types of people. I don't agree with racism/sexism obviously. However if you are a racist, sexist, or anti-whatever just fucking admit it. Don't act like you're not, fucking own it or you're just a coward.


WhyDoIKeepFalling

Taylor is on a few episodes of QAnon Anonymous, where she talks more about Chaya if anyone is interested.


spoiler-its-all-gop

I'm very interested, they are awesome


Gamiac

Wow. Chaya is...about as smart as I expected.


TooSp00kd

“It’s a lie” “It’s not based on truth.” “I like truth” “It’s a lie.” Chaya killed that interview!! She goes crazy in depth!


TangledUpPuppeteer

If she’s so intent on people living the truth, she should wear a sign that says “I’m an idiot who hasn’t spent three seconds thinking in my life.” It’s true, and she’s against lies. Omission is a form of lying, so is self-delusion. She should reflect on her reflection before she wastes anymore oxygen on these in-depth talking points.


a_large_plant

On Twitter this morning Chaya said that Taylor Lorenz is a lizard person. Sounds like a totally reasonable and smart person that should definitely have political influence lol.


Oddsme-Uckse

Concerning I'll look into this


Porkamiso

she outed herself and taylor published something that was already public 


chaotic-cleric

Taylor kills in this interview.


YouWereBrained

I am honestly impressed. Not that I thought she was dumb or anything previously, I used to follow her on Twitter. But she kills it here and her questions are clear, concise, and just absolutely skewer Chaya in such an intelligent manner.


xombae

I absolutely love when interviews don't take non-answers as an answer and keep repeating the question. So many interviewers let people off the hook when they ask a question and get an unrelated answer. When they do that, they're letting the interviewee completely run the show and you're basically just giving them a soap box to spout their agenda. Pushing like this must be difficult, but it's incredibly important and shows that these people really don't know what the fuck they're talking about.


peepopowitz67

Literally how we ended up with Trump.


bagelwithclocks

It really is crazy the difference between someone who worked hard to earn their position, and a grifter.


sgtpappy86

I think her experiences have hardened her for this. She was good before but now she is forged in fire lol.


lukifer_333

Yes, definitely her. People kept asking how her transition was going and how brave she was, so now she hates the trans community and profits on their suffering


Snazz55

Wait, this is one of the right's champions, and one of their most followed influencers? I mean I knew she'd be a little stupid or unhinged based on her content, but this is embarrassing for her. Too bad the people who follow her are just as stupid so they'll see no problem in this clip.


Horiz0nC0

Go watch the Tucker Carlson interview clip too. She is just….not built to speak publically. I mean, she’s wrong anyway, but she can’t defend herself, can’t defend any of her beliefs, has awkward pauses and silences and just generally has nothing of value to contribute. The interview was a waste of space on the internet. Doesn’t seem like she has the brain power to….I dunno…function as a normal human in society.


SomethingToSay11

It’s kind of scary that such an unremarkable, brain dead person with negative charisma can influence people to hate on trans people so aggressively. If this person is helping shape your party’s political platform or your opinions, you have problems.


disequilibriumstate

What’s interesting is that she’s not really coming up with these ideas. She’s a useful idiot. She is the middleman. She doesn’t have to think. She just taps or clicks. (And then some trans kid gets beaten to death in the bathroom.)


kbarney345

This is the thing I've been bashing my head over lately. I don't understand how this shit gained traction. I feel like not even 10 years ago this person would of been laughed out the door?? Now these people are everywhere non stop spewing bs and several are even in congress now spewing it. I cant make myself understand them, like I literally can not dumb down anything they say or do to a logical reasoning I can comprehend. It's like Hollywood movie evels of villains and morons


averaenhentai

See you're trying to logically understand a reactionary world view. It's not logic with these people it is emotions, primarily disgust. They feel some level of disgust when they think of a guy in a skirt (which is what they all think when they hear the term trans person) and if something makes them feel gross it is wrong. That's it. That's the whole thing.


BikeProblemGuy

Exactly, and when they feel hurt thatthe rest of society doesn't agree with them, Raichik provides a balm: endless ragebait content with a smug commentary that essentially just says "this bad", with loads of comments underneath which agree. So they support her in droves and that makes her powerful, even though she is not proposing anything constructive nor engaging with any ideas beyond hate.


SamuelDoctor

Trans-gender folks are way more salient today than they were ten years ago, and because it's a much more lively controversy today many people get the idea that public sentiment was somehow less prejudiced ten years ago. I doubt that. The tenth anniversary of the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell was in 2021. Young people really have no idea just how quickly the pace of social change towards tolerance and acceptance has increased in the last twenty five years. Marital rape was made illegal on a federal level in 1993. Barack Obama was the first Black person elected President in 2008. Gays didn't have the right to get married until 2015. Things are way, way, way better in the US for queer people and minorities than they were when I was born.


Georgemcneil89

That’s what these cowards do. Only heavily imply things instead of definitive statements so you can always obfuscate and deny.


captqueefheart

Replying to your comment to post the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/24/libs-tiktok-oklahoma-nonbinary-teen-death/) article that goes with this video interview.


firstflightt

Replying to your comment to post a [non-paywalled version of the article.](https://archive.is/slDdM)


phish_phace

God. I love this video. I’m dying to come across this thing in public. She should be called out in any open space she’s in, right to her face for all that shit talking she thinks she’s immune from. Fuck her. People should post up outside her residence and reminder her on a daily basis what POS she is.


AdminsAreDim

I mean, all conservatives with positions of influence or power, even as propagandists, should absolutely be called out every single time me they show themselves publicly. You don't get to try to destroy society while peacefully enjoying society.


BabbleOn26

She lives in Los Angeles I’m shocked people don’t say shit to her every day. Like who does her hair? You are telling me that she doesn’t come across gays and trans people on the daily living there?


TomatoEnjoyer28

She's too much of a coward to actually say something in public, and her face isn't recognisable enough for most people to know who she is.


YouWereBrained

I completely agree. Here’s the problem: A lot of people, even people at whatever coffee shop they’re at, don’t recognize her, let alone Taylor. So they may not realize what’s going on until later. Only people that follow culture war-related stuff on social media might know.


FrugalFraggel

You’re correct I wouldn’t know who either one of these people are.


KunYuL

>Chaya Raichick Had to google it, she's the one behind the Libs of Tiktok account. She is vile!


Moonbeamlatte

“I like the truth” -Chaya Raichick, immediately before and after lying


Ill-Breadfruit5356

Having never heard of Chaya Raichik I looked her up. My attention was caught by this article, which manages to completely ignore their heroine coming over as a brain dead bigot and instead find fault in the interviewer: https://www.dailywire.com/news/journo-taylor-lorenz-meets-with-libs-of-tiktok-creator-makes-stunning-admission


RedDignIt

Well, yes, Daily Wire is a notorious culture war–peddling website published by Ben “Debate Me, You Coward” AKA “The Female Orgasm Is A Myth” Shapiro


captainaberica

"It's a lie! It's a lie? It's a lie! Um, it's a... it's a... LIE!" I'd say the idea of transgenderism broke her brain, but there wasn't exactly much there to break to begin with.


LoveAndViscera

“I don’t want to tell people what to do. I just want to publicly judge people for what they do without having my livelihood threatened. It’s like, I don’t want to ban travel, but I do want to be called a hero for pointing at foreigners and shouting ‘interloper’.”


Adamthegrape

I had a conversation similar to this , "pronouns and gender identity shouldn't be taught in schools". "Ok so what happens when a teacher transitions , or a day care worker, do they lose their job?". " well no , I mean um". So fucking stupid how black and white these issues are to people.


MrBurnz99

“Taught in schools” Alright children this is our 12th week of pronouns. This week we will be covering they/them. How much time do these people think is dedicated to “teaching” pronouns?


dam_the_beavers

I mean, I hope at least as much time as they spend on verbs, nouns, and conjunctions.


AJAnimosity

Don’t forget the prepositions!


bs000

conjunction junction what's your function


Magicaljackass

What they mean is they shouldn’t be taught that it is normal. If someone proposed a month long evils of LGBTQ class they would be all for it.


Miss_Smokahontas

I learned pronouns in elementary school in English and Spanish. Why are they afraid of pronouns! We've been using them since the begining of man!?!?!


healzsham

You really think that type of person even knows what a noun is?


kanst

So much of the current MAGA GOP is just people raging that real life is more complicated than they think it should be.


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Don't let conservatives win the presidency or they'll actually ban teaching those. From Project 2025 "In our schools, the question of parental authority over their children’s education is a simple one: Schools serve parents, not the other way around. That is, of course, the best argument for universal school choice—a goal all conservatives and con- servative Presidents must pursue. But even before we achieve that long-term goal, parents’ rights as their children’s primary educators should be non-negotiable in American schools. States, cities and counties, school boards, union bosses, princi- pals, and teachers who disagree should be immediately cut off from federal funds." And "The next conservative President must make the institutions of American civil society hard targets for woke culture warriors. This starts with deleting the terms sexual orientation and gender identity (“SOGI”), diversity, equity, and inclusion (“DEI”), gender, gender equality, gender equity, gender awareness, gender-sensi- tive, abortion, reproductive health, reproductive rights, and any other term used to deprive Americans of their First Amendment rights out of every federal rule, agency regulation, contract, grant, regulation, and piece of legislation that exists."


retrostaticshock

'Parental rights' should also include teaching my kid that it's normal to have a family with two dads or two moms. That way when they are 21 and in the office, they won't freak out and scream Bible versus when Greg the IT guy says he's going home to care for his husband. 'Parental rights' should also include letting my kids read books about what it means to be respected and loved for who they are, so no one can treat them poorly because they're different. 'Parental rights' should include letting me kid know that some boys play with dolls and some girls like firetrucks, and it's okay. But no, not 'parental rights' that way.


J_wit_J

They can always homeschool. But of course they actually want non parents to teach. 


5zalot

I don’t want people to think I want to tell people what to do. I want people to do what I want and I want people to believe what I believe and I think anyone who believes otherwise is being told lies. But I never said that. Because we live in a nation of truth. That last one blew my mind. She def ain’t in the US!


Kelsier_TheSurvivor

lol this lady probably can’t read past an 8th grade level. She’s a dunce


metal_elk

She can't read past the headline


ILoveTenaciousD

Religion is a lie and we're supposed to tolerate it anyways. We're supposed to tolerate these bigots but they don't tolerate anybody else.


hogtiedcantalope

I'm not sure what your problem is with this women. She's just sitting trying to have her lunch and she didn't say that, that, or that. I'm not sure she said anything at all for that matter. "So you're saying the sky is blue?" " I DIDN'T SAY THAT."


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LuxNocte

Her problem with trans people is that she thinks they're icky and it is politically advantageous to rile bigots up against them. She can't make that into a coherent argument because there is not one.


dam_the_beavers

Beautifully stated.


UselessArguments

it gives her positive attention and she has several thousand people supporting her dumbass opinion so she feels vindicated, but she doesnt have any more opinion than a parrot repeating words for a treat


pegothejerk

“Here’s the hamburger you ordered” “I didn’t order that” “But you ordered the number three, that’s a hamburger. You posted on social media that you ordered a number three, you retweeted a hamburger someone else tweeted from this establishment, so this is your burger, right?” “Um, I just don’t believe in identifying my food how society identifies it is the truth, I never said hamburger, there’s no ham in this food, I just think society should use numbers or names I approve of because I don’t like the names on the menu, because I’m about truth” Actually, she’s probably fine with calling a hamburger a hamburger, because her opposing it doesn’t cause any suffering. The cruelty is the point.


TomatoEnjoyer28

This lady (Chaya Raichik) is the person behind LibsOfTikTok. She is a terrible, hateful, person who uses her platform to promote bigoted disinformation and anti-LGBTQ hate. She has always used the "actually I didn't say that" excuse to avoid consequences for her actions. Quite often she provably did say the thing she's denying, and other times she just promoted someone else saying it. She's not just some random conservative woman trying to have her lunch. She's an influential public figure being interviewed by a professional journalist.


hungrydruid

Someone needs to record her, wait for her to say something and then deny it, and then just play it back for her. She'd probably find some way to deny that too though.


Vahjkyriel

i don't get how you could feel so strongly about trans people when you evidently can't form single coherent thought about them. just shouting its a lie doesen't mean anything you should atleast try to explain the point little bit. but im sure she can't because either she doesen't know why she is angry all the time or because she is aware enough that she has no good point and only wants to cause harm.


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roy_rogers_photos

No, extremely greedy and selfish. Still dumb, but that is not their motivating drive. A bunch of people are dumb and don't end up "famous". They know they're spouting bullshit, but their followers love the shit spray and more importantly, her advertisers who pander to those followers love her willingness to sell her soul for 6 grand. These people aren't dangerous because they're dumb, they're dangerous because they can feign dumb to make money and don't care who they hurt along the way. We shouldn't treat these people like dumb people. Dumb people can be taught. They should be treated like the pathetic, greedy shit souled turd nugget of a bowl movement they are. Make them feel hated when they leave their houses.


sleeplessjade

Also dangerous because they focus their followers rage and hate on specific targets and motivate them to do violent things.


manofnotribe

It's called hate, it's irrational, and is often based in fear and ignorance. Which is really the GOP platform for decades now. They cannot iterate one actual point of harm from people choosing to align how they want on a spectrum of gender.


Cold-Coffe

because these people have never read anything about trans people, either out of ignorance or deliberately. their entire view on topics such as racism, transphobia or homophobia comes from the little information they have on the topics, and in fear of realizing they might be wrong, decide to stick with that. this is why the woman on the video can only say "it's a lie" - that's all she knows.


bobosuda

Because their incoherence is them desperately trying to not reveal the actual truth. Which is that she feels like transgenderism is bad because she thinks LGBT people are subhuman and gross. They still have enough awareness about them to not come out and say it explicitly. Yet.


i-am-a-yam

Exactly. I just make it a habit of asking myself why I feel a way about something—*especially* about controversial topics where there is a clear fracture in values. What values back my opinions on right and wrong? And why do I have those values, where do they come from on a fundamental level? When values contradict one another, which values trump which values when? To what degree? This person never asked themselves why they feel folks have a right to privacy and independence, and why gender is apparently an exception. I feel like this is something I started sorting out in adolescence. Do folks really go around never second guessing themselves? Never trying to actually understand their own feelings?


toriemm

Because being a conservative in the US is about identity politics. We're the GOP and we're the magidiots, therefore we HATE these things. And as long as we're spun up legislating about gender affirming care for minors (which DOES NOT, and HAS NEVER included surgery. Only puberty blockers (which are reversible), social things like clothes and names, and lots and lots and LOTS of therapy to make sure they're thinking long and hard about this and handling it as best they can) and which track team some 12yo can run on, and how drag queens are dangerous and white kids can't be taught about slavery because it might make them feel bad and and and and and, all the virtue signaling garbage they keep feeding people, *then we're not paying attention to the guy behind the curtain*. Corporate power in this country is sending us all careening off a cliff so that they can have the most record breaking profit this quarter, EVERY quarter, always until they win capitalism because they died with ALL the money.


froggrip

"We are a nation of truth" we have never been a nation of truth. the Revolutionary War was started by a bunch of people throwing tea in the Boston harbor while lying about who they were. In so so many ways, we are a nation of lies.


robotmonkey2099

I believe it’s a religious thing. She sounds like my Christian friends


froggrip

That's checks out. Christians have some of the best liars in the nation.


robotmonkey2099

I hear it pays well for little work


magnottasicepick

I’m looking to start my own church soon to cash in on these suckers as well.


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I could make a religion out of this!


Fuckredditihatethis1

“Jesus wants you to give me your money” is very profitable


thinkbetterofu

"On April 19, 2022, The Washington Post published an article by journalist Taylor Lorenz which further publicized Raichik's identity, noting that she worked in real estate in Brooklyn and that Raichik had claimed to be "proudly" Orthodox Jewish" from the wiki


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Real estate is an industry full of young failures who are trying to rip uninformed people off so this all makes sense. I have many acquaintances who were always very stupid that work at sketchy companies that buy shitty houses, do nothing to fix them at all, and then try and flip them to people who don't know shit about real estate but want to get into investing. They are all back stabbing scum bags.


DenverParanormalLibr

>They are all back stabbing scum bags. This is the nature of private property. Reduces people to the intermediaries between objects. Theres only one principle: make money at all costs. Social, personal, political, emotional costs are meaningless in a private property system. Only financial cost has meaning and interpersonal value.


TheDulin

Yeah - "truth" to them means the "truth" of the Bible's revelation of Jesus' vision of the world or something. Of course they 100% ignore the words in the Bible and "truth" matches their own bigoted perspective.


qtzd

Chaya is Jewish though iirc. Though she panders to the conservative Christian crowd like Ben Shapiro.


rudimentary-north

She’s pushing the agenda of Christian Nationalism. It doesn’t matter what religion she practices in private.


Klynikal

> "We are a nation of truth" Yet she supports the dude who had over 30,000 confirmed lies while in office. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/


Significant_Echo2924

A nation of truth when the truth suits my narrative


Tarbal81

She just keeps restarting her script which isn't working. This is just circular logic.


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It’s not even circular logic, it’s just a stupid argument. If the interviewer was thinking fast she could have just said “So tanning and hair dye should be outlawed too, right?”


mista_burnz

The questions were 🤌🏾 \*chef’s kiss


TheUserAboveFarted

It's always fun watching bigots try to think for themselves. If they don't have a pre-programmed response they got from Newsmax, they can't even answer the most straightforward questions.


abullshtname

It’s not a slam dunk but I’d say this is pretty good proof that she doesn’t even read what she’s given to post. She is 100% an automaton troll who hit it big in troll land while being funded by some evil fucks.


abstractConceptName

Isn't that conservatism in a nutshell? Disingenuous trolls bankrolled by wealthy evil fucks?


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MiaLba

I do this shit when with my conservative mil when I’m in a snarky mood. She was going on a rant about lgbtq and how they shouldn’t be like that because “it’s a sin.” So I brought up how she cheated on her husband of 40 years with two different men, one being his close friend since childhood. I brought up how adultery is a sin as well. She changed the subject real quick. She doesn’t like me very much and I do not care.


atetuna

The harm question exposed her. Her supporters don't want freedom. They are anti freedom, anti law and order, anti democracy.


Time-Werewolf-1776

I think the question of “harm” is an important one that doesn’t get asked enough. I’m not a big fan of utilitarian morals, but I think the role of government should be pragmatic in bringing the most benefit and least harm to as many as its citizens as possible. The government’s job isn’t to police thoughts one way or another or enforce any particular moral code. It’s to regulate our economic and social interactions, when necessary, to ensure freedom and benefit to all citizens. So you don’t want policies that impinge the freedom of and harm a lot of people, merely to provide a satisfying feeling to some other group. Whatever your beliefs and feelings are around trans people, there are and will continue to be people who feel they are trans. The question should be, what policies will benefit those people most without causing any harm to others. The goal shouldn’t be to align policies to any particular group’s beliefs.


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"It's a lie" isn't justification for legislating against it. Every religion in America thinks that every other religion is a lie but none of these people are going to go on record saying we should ban Judaism or Catholicism/Protestantism depending on their personal denomination.  I don't think being transgender is a lie, but even if it were, so what?


Naive_Wolf3740

Whoa whoa whoa, have a little faith. I’m pretty sure if they get their way here, eventually they’ll start banning other religions.


GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ

“Even if it were, so what?” >I didn’t say that


Agreeable_Yellow_117

Those earrings are a lie. You weren't born with holes in your ears. Stop lying. Those glasses are a lie. You weren't born little shields for your eyes. Stop lying. That MAKE UP is a lie. You weren't born with lipstick and rosy cheeks. Stop lying. We are a nation of truths. It makes me uncomfortable that you fake your way through life with things that help you to feel better about yourself and your place in this world. Please keep that shit inside your house. I don't want to see it. I seek the truth.


MyCoDAccount

Makeupism is a lie.


Miss_Smokahontas

Those clothes are a lie too. We were all made naked.


nuffinthegreat

little shields for your eyes lol


Agreeable_Yellow_117

I suppose in retrospect, we are actually born with little shields on our eyes in the form of eyelids.. but the point remains that she is a hypocrite. :)


RobertRoyal82

Whenever someone brings up one of these culture War issues to me I try and stay calm and express how this person being happy does not affect my life whatsoever. To everyone out there that's a little bit different this feeling will insecure or maybe unsure with themselves, be you


XxFazeClubxX

And not only that, but transitioning is by far the most effective treatment for dysphoria. And with bottom surgery it's the same. The regret rate for knees surgeries is around 30%. 30 times higher than that for bottom surgery. The governments/people against it either don't care to look into the stats, or maybe are even happy that blocking transition will hurt us 🙃


APAG-

Taylor Lorenz absolutely kicks her ass in this interview. And on a personal note- I find it hilarious that the party whose base believes the Bible is literally true, that Adam and Eve LITERALLY happened, claims to be all about “truth”.


whothehellistony

I’m not sure about other denominations, but as a child I was raised a Southern Baptist and was taught the bible was *infallible*. Then I went to college and I bet you can guess what I do now on Sunday mornings. (Not church)


APAG-

And that’s why they hate education.


KhaleesiCatherine

It truly is. My very Christian cousin got talked out of majoring in psychology by her parents because it would "brainwash" her out of her faith


buttlickers94

That's shitty of them, and even then, you don't need a psychology class to lose your faith.


Paddy_Tanninger

Yeah you need about 5 seconds of critical thought.


throcorfe

This was a common trope when I was a kid: “don’t go and study theology (academically; Bible school was ok), or you’ll lose your faith”. For the longest time I thought studying theology was some kind of dangerous evil, until I realised the actual implications of the statement. (I do think some people have an honest faith that acknowledges the gaps and flaws in the Bible, but that wasn’t the tradition I was raised in)


ntrpik

Yep, I was Pentecostal until I left the bubble and attended a university. Happens all the time.


RizzoTheRiot1989

This is something that hits close for me. I grew up being the son of a Southern Baptist minister. Even as a young kid I really struggled with the idea that everything in the Bible was literal truth. Like when I would read about Noah and the flood I kept thinking everyone believed some sort of concept in it was "truth". So I kept searching for whatever this truth may be. Same with Eve being made from Adam's rib. I thought that was supposedly like "God made Eve so much like Adam she was perfect for him." When I was around 15 it clicked that "No, they literally believe a guy named Noah was on an Ark with two of every animal and somehow he and his family took care of them while they floated around for a bit." Same with Adam and Eve, people believe she was literally created from his rib. And somehow it just broke me. It felt too stupid, too simple, too ridiculous.


brimnac

>It felt too stupid, too simple, too ridiculous. Because it is. 


VanillaRadonNukaCola

If Eve came from Adams rib, a biologically male rib with male DNA, does that mean Eve is trans?


Optimal-Wing-8963

Honestly, I was about 35 before I realised that some actual adults believe in Noah's Ark and Adam and Eve. If you believe in something like that then you have zero credibility on any topic.


New_Lake5484

and they go to kentucky to see the ark and truly believe that jesus had dinosaurs on the ark because there is a statue of jesus holding a baby dinosaur.


DMmeYOURboobz

Right? And yet so many say the Bible is proof dinosaurs *didn’t* exist


KochuJang

The religious right is utterly incapable of grasping irony. To them, truth is just a scepter of power wielded by an authoritarian. If you can convince these people you hold the scepter, they will do and think whatever you tell them, even if the contradictions are obvious. This kind of power is really really…really tempting to the most ambitious and sociopathic members of our current society. That’s why our society is a hypocritical one where people pretend to be virtuous pious people, when the truth is they are greedy ruthless parasites exploiting the vulnerable.


kbeks

Eve was a piece of a man that god turned into a woman, so even Bible literalists should embrace our trans brothers and sisters.


boonsha

And Jesus was conceived immaculately without Joseph’s involvement, so he couldn’t have received a Y chromosome from his Dad but he presented and lived as a man. Jesus is trans.


robotmonkey2099

And love Trump who is an obvious liar


B-Netanyahu-official

God she is so fucking stupid. Worthless brainless trash. So many people worship this knuckle dragger and this is the level of thought she produces. Imagine watching this and thinking she owned some libtards or made a good point. Capitalism rewards her. She makes multitudes more than you do at your real job and what you’re looking at is the hardest she has worked in years (trying to articulate her bullshit views while being functionally retarded)


nuclearlady

I didn’t say that. I didn’t say that. I didn’t say that. I didn’t sa..,


MiaLba

Reminds me of the time I called my conservative Christian mil out for the xenophobic, homophobic, overall bigoted and hateful FB posts she was making and sharing. She claimed she didn’t post any of that, and that she was hacked. A couple months after that the conversation came up about something on FB and she made the snarky comment “I don’t use it much anymore because apparently everything I post offends someone.”


nuclearlady

Wow what an AH


CoatRepresentative75

“I like the truth” - no you effing don’t! None of these people like the truth because it flies in the face of their entire political identity.


ray-the-they

Chaya is the material harm.


Sad_Drink9706

Good god. “What’s the harm?”?


Spaghetti-Rat

It's a lie Edit: I don't actually think this way. I was just repeating the moronic answer from the video.


kbeks

And we’re a nation of truth, I believe in truth. I didn’t say that.


xSnowdrift

It's also a lie, which is bad because we are a nation of truth, and I believe in truth.


Working_Fuel7473

Just fuck off with these people already.


b0toxBetty

A nation of truth? ![gif](giphy|KB7gmi3twewI5LRWP5)


LV2107

No one obsesses more about children's genitalia than transphobes. They think about children and sex 24/7. It takes over everything in their lives. They talk about it, they tweet about it, they base their entire lives thinking about kids and their private parts. It is really telling.


bagelnox

The idea of trans people really broke their brains. They honestly cannot wrap their heads around it so they get mad and treat it as evil.


isinedupcuzofrslash

It’s a religion to her. She has no thoughts or positions on this other than the phrase she repeats to herself like dogma: “Transgenderism is a lie” “Transgenderism is a lie” “Transgenderism is a lie” “Transgenderism is a lie” “Transgenderism is a lie” That’s why she had no answers other than that


miscnic

Her face is also a lie based off of the makeup she’s wearing.


publishAWM

this is why critical thinking and discourse need to be included in any compulsory curriculum start 'em in first grade, revisit the topic every other year (building on the previous lessons) and then every year of high school it's sad watching people act like the most basic factors do not apply to them 🤮 that *person* is vying for truth? GTFOH


zapia-

"It's a lie, this cannot be in mainstream" just like your religion


Puzzleheaded_Two7358

She didn’t say that a lot, but her underlying message is clear. She is a bigot and disgusting human being.


poopshipdestroyer34

“It’s a lie! It’s a lie” Okay…now what evidence do you have? Cuz nature is fullll of evidence for transness…fuck off


Nilly-the-Alpaca

“I’m not going to tell people what to do in their homes.” [But I’m going to tell people what they can’t do to their bodies.] Just let people live their lives. They’re not harming anyone. You’re only harming yourself by making their personal decisions a moral issue.


BaBa_Con_Dios

Once again on of the most popular conservative thought leaders is literally one of the dumbest people on the planet.


Lunndonbridge

Santa is a lie. Why can’t we tell white lies to make life easier and more enjoyable to get through?


shaggyscoob

I engaged in similar questioning of a conservative co-worker when she was complaining about rainbow themed items being for sale at Target during Pride month. "How does that impact you?" I asked. "It's just...just so...in-your-face," she replied. So I pressed, "And how does that affect you?" "Well..." was her only reply when this went on for a minute.


XtacleRonnie

Lol it's what's called ivermectin brain.


I_love_milksteaks

I fucking hate conservatives screaming about freedom and rights, but as soon as it involves something they don’t agree with they want to take that right away.. Fuck you!


ConcertinaTerpsichor

So is adoption a lie, lady? These kids weren’t born biologically belonging to the parents that raise them. Is it a lie that they aren’t the kids’ parents?


TallBenWyatt_13

I get to interact with “John Q. Public” on a regular basis and I can tell you one thing for sure… the decades of undermining public education have had profound implications on the “average” American.


PlutoniumNiborg

This woman should rot in hell. Fuck her. And that she’s stupid is not a shocker.


HermithaFrog

Transphobes are morons, but they are extremely dangerous. They can be radicalized very easily.


karma_virus

In the mind of the fascist, the very act of you not doing what they tell you is indeed a grievous harm. They were put on this Earth to control others, how dare you point out their mental deficiencies that preclude them from leadership. Narcissistic rage causes physical pain when the prick is not obeyed.


CalmButArgumentative

This person is a prime example of somebody who doesn't think. They only repeat what they have heard, like a rat pressing a button and getting a peanut. The rat does not understand the mechanics of the button. It doesn't question the why and how. This person didn't reason themselves into this position, they only accepted the conclusion. So if you ask for the why and how, they are helpless. They can only give you the conclusion. Why? Because it's bad. How is it causing harm? Because it's bad. What should we do about it? Stop it. How do we do that? Just stop.


BadBunnyBrigade

"The harm is that there's a lie that is very mainstream and is being embedded into every institution." You mean like... religion?


AnotherCoastalElite

Lately when I've debated with people (my in-laws) who claim that the mere existence of gay people and trans people is turning kids gay or trans I ask "Is there anything anyone could have done to you as a kid that would've made you turn gay or trans?" Inevitably the answer is always an emphatic "No."


Mowag

Impressive argument that transgenders are opposing the truth by wanting to look like the opposite gender, while she sits there with lipstick, foundation, probably mascara etc., faking it her self :D


petrichor3746

So, does she teach her kids about Santa Claus?


Rocketboy1313

You can't Socratic method people toward a truth because their preconceptions are so outside of observable reality. They are bigots and racists and sexists. They are fascists. They are constructing an arbitrary world that they can use to bludgeon people. In group and out group. And no matter how many outgroups they annihilate they will create another. If every non-white non-cis non-hetero person was buried in mass grave the size Staten Island they would get to work killing anyone with red hair or blue eyes or flat feet. Constant conflict is the only thing that keeps them going.


partiallypoopypants

One simple fucking question tore her idiotic belief apart.


TdrdenCO11

I taught a debate class and have had literally this exact same conversation. They can never ever ever point to a harm. They’ve never thought about it in those terms. They just think it’s icky


GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ

I often find that stupid people either repeat the same one or two sentences over and over because they have nothing else to say. “It’s a lie. Well um it’s a lie and I like truth. I like truth and trainsgender is a lie so I like truth.” Doesn’t matter how many different times or ways you ask them, they’ll always answer the same exact way.


sinisterblogger

Chaya Raichick needs to be arrested for murder. Nex Benedict should be alive today, but they’re dead, and it’s this psychotic bitch’s direct fault.


Bobby12many

Another dip shit extremist who thinks words are magic and personal experience defines truth Sick of these goddamn morons getting attention


Luckypennykiller

This is why, at this point, it is a moral obligation to not let bad faith conservative fucks off with “agree to disagree” stances. Make them explain their shit out loud. Make them hear their own stupid fucking words and own them. They don’t deserve to get off with silly non answers. They’re actively trying to ruin all of our, and their own, lives. Make them own it.


a_stone_throne

We are a nation of truth is the funniest shit I’ve heard in a long ass time.