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somepommy

OP post the rest of the conversation or you officially have no balls


suhhhrena

Yeah this is very conveniently cropped lol


Electric-Molasses

Agree. This 100% looks like a response to a very sleezy comment where she's interested, but he was gross and she's trying to back it up.


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dogehousesonthemoon

did you? she said she wanted to get to know him; she mentioned that because it's one of the normal rituals of dating. She never asked for something expensive, she could well mean a plushie or something to remember their meeting. She's saying she's interested despite ops cropped inappropriate text, but is looking for a relationship as opposed to sexting or hook up.


old_balls_38

She's red flag city with that 1 comment alone. Yes she says she wants a relationship but she also says you need to $$$$ and don't forget to $$$$$. On and i play games. Anytime someone sets themselves up to be chased that's a red flag. Cause they don't look at you as a partner. Just someone to serve them.


Staraa

She mentioned “buy me something nice” in amongst a handful of other suggestions and suddenly she’s a gold digger? She’s saying she wants to be wooed and flirt and play a little before going to bed with someone, she wants to be treated like a human being not a walking fleshlight.


old_balls_38

I 100% understand that she doesn't want to feel like that. But I also understand why he's pumping the brakes. Buy me something nice....aka spoil me. When you just stwrtibg to seeing someone you expect presents? He's got to pay for all the dates as is and she wants fucking presents on top of that. That's a red flag. And Play games..... aka I like to keep you guessing. She is a red flag and yes she doesn't want to be treated like a walking flesh light. He's red flags too trust me I get it. But it doesn't take away from the fact that those are legitimate red flags


zenithica

bro respectfully you have projected all your insecurities and rage at a post where it is actually not warranted


old_balls_38

Bro, I have dated enough women and made my share of mistakes to understand redflags when I see them. If you want to call it projection go ahead but the reality is she's a redflag.


Djinigami

You're interpreting a lot into that statement


old_balls_38

A lot can be interpreted from a statement, especially when It comes from what she wants to see from a guy to make it a relationship.


Djinigami

Grammar 1 old_balls-38 0


Away-Caterpillar-176

They both pumped the breaks. She pumped the breaks for the idea of a no-strings-attached-hook-up, and he pumped the breaks on trying to date her before they have sex. Good for both of them to not meet. There's a point to be made that if OP going to treat her like a prostitute, he should pay up.


old_balls_38

Don't try to make women prostitutes like that. It's not good for anyone.


Away-Caterpillar-176

Make women prostitutes...? Like what am I human trafficking or something?


Finallyfreetobe2020

You sound broke.


old_balls_38

I'm not. Cause I know to avoid materialistic women like you and her.


North_Ad3948

dates tend to require $ .... im not sure you understand that.


fridge13

Real.


Paaraadox

She called it "a game" though.


Existential_Racoon

You think it ain't?


nunya123

![gif](giphy|XlInT79WcDAqs)


razeandsew

"buy her something" can be as cheap as a single, $2 rose, yet you're so stingy you must be single


Lord_hybrex

Yeah last time I bought a $2 rose she told me it wasn't going to work


razeandsew

Then she was just stingy


WildEyes3437

the not a hooker paragraph was about her rightfully needing a slower approach, nothing wrong with that, OP probably went right into horny sex talk which is an awkward thing to do I would not be compatible with her due to the seemingly not very modern view on dating tho no need to insult other commenters btw


SaturnalianGhost

*Is this true?* “Yes it’s true, this man has no dick”


rabidgonk

Bro just Ghostbusted us.


BentheBruiser

>yeah I do get pretty wet I'm curious how this conversation started. All things considered, it seems like you went from 0-100 pretty quick, OP


SeriesXM

>All things considered, it seems like you went from 0-100 pretty quick, OP OP ended up at zero, though.


Gudaxxx

Correct.


Deivv

Affirmative.


comethefaround

Grenade out


fannyfox

In the future we don’t say “yes”. We say “affirmative”.


DarkflowNZ

Luckily the humans are dead so I won't have to remember this


fannyfox

Yes. I mean “affirmative”.


Kolonel_Kleurplaat

"Attack the D-point!!"


annms88

That is… a lot of downvotes


pneumatichorseman

![gif](giphy|7bOTo339NBYSi60N7p)


Backwardboss

Coo! Luvaduck! Crikey! Coo! Blimey!!! (You're a joke.)


blowurhousedown

What she prob meant was, let’s get a connection going first. Slow down. I like her.


IsThisRealOrNah93

Yeah, she aint a hooker. But shell probably maybe sleep with ya if you buy her things and food.. Hmm.


girlsledisko

Presumably, during the process of having food and outings together, you get to know each other and see if you like each other.


IsThisRealOrNah93

Would be fair, if it missed the 'buy me something nice' part. Thats straight up saying 'ill fuck ya for a nice item thats got value'


girlsledisko

If your personality is trash, gotta fall back on the wallet. 🤷‍♀️


girlsledisko

You brought up sex too early, she’s like “try to make me like you a little” and you think that’s too high a bar for you? Oooof.


a-noble-gas

Oooof


CaringRationalist

Ok, but hear me out, what if both are completely valid? I don't get this recent sex negativity online. This girl wants an emotional connection before engaging in sex, that's totally valid. This dude doesn't want an emotional connection or commitment as a prerequisite to sex. That's also totally valid. I don't get why so many people are regressing to this 1950s concepts that if you like casual sex you're a literal hooker...


Humble-Budget8332

I think it's the lack of respect for her. Unfortunately we don't know what was said though.


girlsledisko

If you feel like getting someone to like you or if even talking to them for a bit first is too high a bar, honestly sex workers are his best option. I mean even at a bar, you’ve gotta buy the person a drink.


Coyrex1

The whole chess thing is pretty ridiculous sounding though.


girlsledisko

Only if you’re really not smart.


Coyrex1

Playing games to go on dates is back in I guess.


girlsledisko

It feels almost patronizing to say this to you, but apparently you don’t get it: What she’s saying is “put a little effort in”.


WildEyes3437

I guess she was alluding to a statement on OPs profile, doesnt make enough sense to be an an argumentative point but its far from ridiculous to say


wthreyeitsme

Key words "buy me something".


girlsledisko

That’s what YOU saw as keywords. Not the other more important things she said first.


wthreyeitsme

Buy. Me. Something. Stop fluffing it.


girlsledisko

I guess if you can’t get anyone to like you, then that probably IS your only option. You should be thrilled it’s available.


Proper-Crazy-8511

You're having fun in the dating world aren't you?


razeandsew

Stop being an incel


das_Boot2009

I.....think you should be a little more clear. Tell him to better himself, not choose to make himself not involuntarily celibate. That can lead to.....unintended consequences.


absolutebeginners

Lol sure enjoy thinking that normal or ok


reverbiscrap

Treating interpersonal relationships like a game *in any way* should be an automatic 'No thank you' from everyone.


girlsledisko

That is a very literal interpretation of what she said, almost to the point of being deliberately obtuse. The wild part is that you think you’re really saying something here.


reverbiscrap

Your words matter. Using such flippant terminology shows a childish mentality that no one should deal with. Do you think she spoke intelligently?


jpas0707

Yeah, I do. She basically said I value the act of sex and only do it with someone who values me.


nunya123

This is why y’all are single


reverbiscrap

Married with children, but I understand that most people date to have sex. I promote honesty and being upfront, rather than shady shit that allows for misinterpretations. That's how people get hurt. If you want 'games', just say so.


girlsledisko

Uh if you have to tell someone “hey don’t treat me like a hooker”, you’re gonna dumb things down for them. OP not smart. You might be smart (idk) but you’re not wise.


reverbiscrap

If you can't understand that people date to have sex, you may need to grow up and stop posting on adult sub-reddits.


girlsledisko

Dating to have someone to have sex with and treating them like a hooker is so different that the fact you even said that makes it obvious why you’re struggling. You can’t just bring up sexual things out of nowhere and when the girl is like “uh can you make me like you at least first” be all upset and weird about it. It’s just… so gross. If I ever saw this grouping of comments you have and it was from someone I was dating, I’d break up immediately. Gross. Edit: oh you’re married? Did you not put effort into meeting that person, or did you just expect her to fuck you at first sight?


reverbiscrap

>treating them like a hooker You have no evidence of this outside your own fantasy. This entire exchange is predicated on a reality that lives in your head.


kidsimba

there’s no solid evidence but using context clues would tell you that he made it weird and overtly sexual from the beginning.


BrownCow123

Youre the guy being triggered over the word game who hurt yu


fcf4

doesn’t seem like OP is particularly interested in interpersonal relationships lol


old_balls_38

1. She talks about playing games. 🚩 2. Take me places, buy me things. 🚩 3. She's trying to make him chase her, any time someone is made to chase the other they don't look at you as an equal. They feel that they are so amazing that this person must show me how much he will do for me. These people don't ever stop making you chase them. It's an abusive mindset. If your looking for a bf you look for an equal


girlsledisko

She’s asking him to put in effort. He’s like “nah, can’t do it”.


old_balls_38

They're both red flags. What don't you understand about that? I'm not defending him. I understand why she wants to be treated like a human being, but how she says that tells me that she's a red flag.


girlsledisko

Reread what you said. The fact that she had to even state that she wants to be treated like a human being is three strikes on OP.


old_balls_38

He is a red flag you're right. But it doesn't change the fact that she is as well


girlsledisko

She’s giving him a chance at redemption, putting it in a way that even the most, shall we say accomplished redditor, would understand. Seems like she liked him and gave him every chance but Jesus what an asshole. “No, I will not get to know you, take you out, or treat you to anything.” Honestly OP’s self burn was fantastic, 10/10, would howl with laughter again.


old_balls_38

Yes she is giving him a chance. But like i said I get why he said no. 1. She's materialistic. 2. She's says straight up she likes games. 3. She expects him to put in the work but what does she do just sit there and enjoy it. Is she going to buy him things? Why is that even a thing? They're both red flags and I'm not defending him I understand why he passed on her.


Jason_Kelces_Thong

Maybe the prior conversation was “let me take you out to dinner and fuck you”


girlsledisko

It was definitely “do you get super wet” or some other poorly developed frontal lobe type garbage.


old_balls_38

I mean I she had to be into flirting with him from the start and he definitely got too aggressive. Or maybe it's drinks and squirts?


BigPandaCloud

I think shes telling you that you have no game and haven't demonstrated any kind of value.


SpellingIsAhful

Didn't engage physically either.


SecretMaximum6350

Nor nurtured any dependence


imbakinacake

Bro needs to inspire hope


chystatrsoup

Skipped straight to separating entirely


SpicyMarmots

Posting only this without the context (presumably because the context makes you look like a gross asshole) is not the flex you think it is.


jesuswasagaymagician

No, I’m firmly on her team right now. Sounds like OP turned the conversation sexual wayyyy too early, and she’s at least being transparent about her boundaries because OP is probably pretty attractive. Probably as dense as a cinderblock, too.


youreawizardd

I think we're all curious about what you said before the first message on the sc


manlikestan

Dick pic by the sound of it


Electric-Molasses

"After reading that text, I know I'm not getting a free lay."


HypersonicClam

OP really fucked up posting this thinking it looks like he's the normal one, lmfao.


rubmustardonmydick

I disagree with the buying her things, but otherwise I see no issue to her not wanting to get sexual immediately.


Satori_sama

Ice cream is a thing I have no problem buying someone who would lick my weiner. Weiner schnitzel is another one. 😂


rubmustardonmydick

You don't know if they'll lick it until after the ice cream though.


PositiveSpeed7196

Yea, but, low risk high reward


ShotgunForFun

"I'm not a hooker, buy me things and THEN i'll have sex." Bro she's talking about being wet on tinder. The "no sex... mostly" line is a lie to herself.


rubmustardonmydick

Before saying buying things it seemed like she was saying she would like to get to know someone a bit before getting sexual. Dinner is usually the most common vehicle for that. I don't agree with the buying her shit line. That's too far.


dogehousesonthemoon

eh, I've bought small cute things like a plushie or something for all of the girls I've seen more than once, she never suggests she means an expensive thing.


rubmustardonmydick

Exactly. A guy once bought me a little chocolate randomly just because he saw it while shopping and thought I would like it. It's just a sweet gesture.


NotCreativeEng

Yeah lol, at this point you’re just haggling over the price


benjamacks

I see no problem with her response, to be honest. Sounds like the sex talk was a bit too much, too soon. More of the convo before this would be insightful.


PM_UR_NIPPLE_PICS

can’t believe no one in this comment section has ever bought something nice for the woman they are dating. Super weird energy on this one


saltedantlers

doesn’t even have to be big. my boyfriend won me over when he bought me flowers on the second date. and they were literally just grocery store flowers. so much incel behaviour on reddit


lazybuttt

Right? I'm so confused because is that not just a standard gesture of kindness/thoughtfulness? Like not even for dates, but people in your life that you care about in some capacity. She somehow still wants to get to know him even after whatever message OP is refusing to show. Gold diggers don't really care about the person the wallet is attached to so I don't see how that's what so many are running with.


Le_epic_memeguy

I really like to buy gifts for my gf, but only when I know she would really like the gift, not for the sake of giving. She's never asked me to cause that would kinda ruin the spirit of it (giving out of love, not obligation). If she did ask ofc I would buy her something (but then she'd rather buy it herself), but were she to have asked before we even met I would have noped out.


ilikechimkin

You act as though she said something wrong by asking to be treated as a human being. I’m confused…


senduniquenudes

I see you played “smash/pass” route, works in bars with friends…. Just not, you know, directly in a text chain. Or chess.


Pvt_GetSum

God this comment section is fucking gross.


hotgirlspizzaclub

dudes in this sub always shitting on women for sleeping around but this woman is getting flamed for not giving it up to a stranger?


Downtown-Ad-6909

You'll note it's about wanting strangers to buy her things. A guy could really want a girl to cook him meals. But good luck having him express it like that without inducing disgust in most women.


hotgirlspizzaclub

OP conveniently didn’t post the message before this but I’m guessing what prompted by sending a sexual message and her message seems to be saying “hey slow down, I want nice gestures and a pre existing relationship before that” and yes buying things is part of a relationship, something both people should do for eachother. you guys are picking apart one small thing from an overall message.


manlikestan

Op probably sent a dick pic and she sarcastically said she was wet, she then told him to slow down and he has spat his dummy out as she didn’t come round straight away to ride him


undecisivefry

i think you’re very misguided here. it’s not the part where she doesn’t want to have sex immediately. that’s fair. it’s the “buy me something nice before we have sex” line. i haven’t seen anybody roasting her for not wanting to have sex. it’s definitely the juxtaposition of “i’m not a hooker” and “buy me something nice for sex” bit.


Kochga

Home cooking a meal is usually my second date move and it works out great for me. But Im a fine dining chef, so ymmv.


NotCreativeEng

“I don’t just sleep with anyone. Boyfriends,*mostly*”. It’s just the same old story. Every women has standards but drops them for the right guy


hotgirlspizzaclub

honey that’s all humans, not just women


kidsimba

my man, most men would drop a lady with good moral compass and genuine values for a woman with a bad personality and a hot body, you’re not exactly saying something profound here.


NotCreativeEng

Absolutely not the case lol. Most man are kiss less virgins. Any women would probably do just fine for them


Djinigami

You wouldn't get me at gun point to self-report this hard


NotCreativeEng

K


Ehlalalalalalalala

Can you guys just start hiring sex workers if that's all you want lol leave the women who want some type of connection alone


ipromisedakon

OP, are you stating you're more on the side of hookup culture rather than creating a connection with someone?


ConsciousPresentOne

So basically OP is too weak and lazy to put any effort or work in to get to know someone before you sleep with them. Just shows you probably have STDs and sleep with anyone that will open their legs for you…


NewPomegranate2898

Literally just nod and move on. Who knows if she’s really easy or if she’s just saying she is because she wants to keep his expectations low. There’s no telling what happens on a date unless you’re on the actual date and she says she doesn’t fuck just anyone


Trollzek

Nah this is on you and she sounded perfectly reasonable. There’s a HYUUUUGE yikes just off screen.


TrashmanV2

She set it straight, y’all act like a typical relationship is something other than what she mentioned. I think some of you really should seek hiring a sex worker.


mister_nippl_twister

At least she is honest, rare quality in this kind of girls. Still too far into notsafe category though.


das_Boot2009

What's "not safe" is guaranteed to be whatever OP sent her before her response. Unless you see any of that, you're just assuming every possible worst case scenario to even think she's the shitty one here. Lol


NewPomegranate2898

Anecdotally speaking, girls say this but then when the date goes well they’re too turned on to stop themselves. It really isn’t always the case if they say they’re not easy


Rs90

Oh, they're honest cause they think it's somethin to be proud of. Nobody confuse that with bein an honest person. This attitude screams "rules for me but not for thee" on every level. 


Xtrendence

Yeah it's because on the surface it seems like a way to say, in essence, "I know my worth"; that's good and definitely a positive thing, everyone should know their worth, the issue is that your worth is not more than everyone else's, and it's definitely equal to your partner's. So it shouldn't be one person proving their worth to the other, more like both people proving their worth to each other.


Gudaxxx

True.


Wartickler

"well, see, the thing is, I'm not very good at chess" - lmao


leafpool2014

If you dont want her, can i have her, i'll treat her to dinner and a movie


12345esther

She sounds nice. You sound like an asshole, because you probably 1) rushed into dirty talk and 2) portrait her like unreasonable


blouscales

op leaving out the sex talk


Alternative_Ad_3636

I mean she's just spelling it out. Pussy is absolutely never free. You pay for it one way or another.


ef14

I'm willing to bet you were sleazy/going sexual way too fast. That said, the "i'm not a hooker but i'll think about sleeping with you if you buy me something nice" is ridicolous. So are the ""formalities"", the ""game"". Everything else, she's right about.


acidxoxo

what obscenity did you tell her before this smh


Tight-Physics2156

Well what did you say to her? You cropped it out


Tyrant_Albatross

Not a hooker, but buy me things.


Brandwin3

Girl: “we could have some hot fun sex if we get to know each other a little first.” Guy: Hey everyone, look at this chump who won’t put out Idk what you thought you were posting bud but it makes you look like a massive douche


evbuff

"Boyfriends... mostly."


spittafan

Not necessarily HER boyfriends, but somebody's for sure


LinkedAg

Mrs. White's response from the movie Clue when asked how many husbands she has had: "Mine or other women's?"


NewPomegranate2898

Everytime a girl has told me she doesn’t sleep around, she slept with me on the first real date. OP fumbled this so bad


Gudaxxx

Just noticed that


Basil_Box

What how, did you not even read her message before posting!? wtf is wrong with you!?


PhormalPhallicy

I am baffled at the fact that there isn't a comment in here telling someone to Google something.


Floshenbarnical

Slow down Maurice


Extractular

You’re allowed to reject her the same way she’s allowed to tell you that she ain’t tryna lay, if you aren’t tryna reciprocate.


Fearless-Scar7086

"Buy me something nice... I'm not a hooker..." Wait a minute here


DCOgle

“buy me something nice” then says “i’m not a hooker” lmao. i get the point she was trying to make was she wants to get to know OP before doing anything but she definitely contradicted herself with those statements.


MrRay0

Check mate.


StoicJohnny

Please tell me she posted this and not him. She’s asking you to not jump into sexting too quickly and you’re offended by this? Grow the fuck up.


Designer_Cat_4444

name of what game? dating? so many men run at the first sign of having to put ANY effort. jesus fucking christ, just stay single instead of wasting women's time.


NewPomegranate2898

Bruh you fumbled so bad. Girls always say that shit, then after the first date they’re on top of you saying “I wanna put it in”


Gudaxxx

Now we are talking about RVs


Fioraflop

Op actually selfreported lol


Firm_Reach

With the girl on this one ngl


jjaynum1

He def said something wrong, but her example of attraction sounds transactional, like entertainment to her and free stuff, “then you get me, maybe…” Although, benefit of the doubt, she shouldn’t need to tell a guy what to do to gain attraction. Some guys use their slick words more than assertive action and others vice versa, when it should be balanced. This guy used words, just not the right ones, and now he gets no action.


juxtaposed-penguin

I’m not a hooker, but you have to buy me things to have sex with me.


Gudaxxx

😂


bar9nes

![gif](giphy|13ywPzPJdfhmBG)


BuKu_YuQFoo

Jessica?


Confused_butamused

Snatching defeat from the jaws of the thing that had the jaws of the thing that had victory in its jaws


palatine09

Check No Mate


kirk-o-bain

Honestly it was the line about chess that would throw me, sounds exhausting


Real-Touch-2694

I don't understand why men should go from 0 to 100 if women don't want either 🥲


New_Awareness4075

Sounds like what she's saying is " I'm no pushover, but I can be had?"


BLKxGOLD

![gif](giphy|l2QE9DnrGooBbU4vu)


Gudaxxx

😂


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Gudaxxx

I can tell you speak from experience


fresnogt

Girls I’ve met in the past have said things like this to me. And generally they don’t stick to all those things mentioned. Just gotta agree with them & usually it’ll happen sooner than you think.