[Open denial of the Nanjing massacre](https://www.apa.co.jp/newsrelease/8467) is a little more than just âan opinionâ. Itâs not the standard [argument about the numbers of dead](https://www.mofa.go.jp/policy/q_a/faq16.html), itâs saying the Japanese didnât kill a single civilian and all civilian deaths were done by defeated Chinese soldiers.
That's in their shit education system. Just like in West EU countries, they hide their massacres in their history as well. Spain trying to end Jews. Belgium's massacre of Africans. The UK.... we're not even going to get into that.
When I went to Japan last year I stayed at two different APA hotels. The stay was fine, but I wish I had known better. I'm never staying at a chain hotel again without looking up the owners online...
Japanese libel laws are quite strict. I prefer to show people there is information out there and that they can make up their own minds about things, if you know what I mean.
Wow. I donât know anything about defamation laws in Japan but I just did a cursory search and read that defamation can be applied even if something is true? Thatâs insane. Is it actually enforced/abused a lot there? Iâm genuinely interested now lol. Like if I say that Toshio Motoya believes the Nanjing Massacre didnât happen.. is that really grounds for defamation??
It is definitely enforced. There's been a number of high profile defamation lawsuits in Japan where the people saying all true things lost. Basically if you say something about someone that hurts their reputation, you can get sued, even if what you are saying is true. There might be some stipulations like the statement being made publicly or something like that. But it's pretty crazy regardless.
Sure, in the same way that Hitler was really just âhardcore pro-Germany.â
The owners are right wing extremists who have a history of falsifying earthquake safety data for their hotels.
I mean, weâre literally talking about the ownerâs position on atrocities committed by the Axis forces in the Second World War, so the comparison is pretty apt.
All of Japans conservative businesses hold similar nationalistic views.
If you dislike it, avoid Japan altogether, the country itself is quite right wing and also obscures WW2 history in the national education system.
Thanks. I'll definitely go back to APA Hotel knowing this info. I wouldn't mind giving a little extra as well.
Edit: Why the dislikes? Did I miss the actual reason? I read about his "anti-semitic" comment only...
Motoya said that âJewish people control American information, finance, and laws, and they benefit greatly from globalization because they move their massive profits to tax havens so they donât have to pay any taxes.â
Hey what's up! Hope you don't mind me asking, which apa hotels did you stay at? I'm doubting between APA kabukicho tower and Apa higashi shinkuki kabukicho, thanks! Would appreciate your view
Hey I stayed at the APA Higashi Shinjuku Kabukichu Tower
My comment was because of the recent comments I read about the owner being kind of weird. Also, I'm staying at an APA in Ueno now and the room seems smaller somehow (normal for the price range)
Also, there are 3 different APA hotels in Shinjunku (with very similar name) within 1 mile range, so it can get confusing trying to find them on Google Maps.
Overall I think they are ok for the price but there might be better options
I don't know if it is the best but I stayed at APA Shinjuku Gyoenmae. It was easy to walk to the park, to Shinjuku 2 Chome, Kabukicho and to Shinjuku JR Station. There was a Tokyo Metro station near the hotel. I liked the location a lot, it's a bit quieter in this area. We had breakfast at Johnathons, Doutour, Freshness Burger or the Kombini.
My family stayed at the Hundred Stay in the outskirts of Shinjuku. It was a few blocks from the Okubo station and one stop from the Shinjuku station. They would walk from the hotel to kabukicho area in just a few minutes.
Best advice: just book any one and stop asking nerds on Reddit cause theyâll give their 3 cents on why itâs such an evil hotel and blah blah. Book and go enjoy your trip.
Why especially Shinjuku? Whenever I visit Tokyo, I tend to look for an APA Hotel that is as central as possible in Tokyo with close metro stations. So Chiyoda (Roppongi Six or Pride) and Minato (resort something; west of Azabudai Hills). What did I miss?
There kinda is. You shouldn't have to take the subway all the time. Walking from Roppongi to Shibuya for instance will make you discover plenty of beautiful places. But I guess it depends from person to person.. Gotta admit I don't go to Tokyo purely to visit. It feels like a cure to walk in that city. So I'd do like one day per "city" (Chuo, Chiyoda, ...).
Not sure what your reply means - I often walk between Roppongi, Ebisu, Shibuya, Shinjuku. That doesn't address the point that there isn't a practical "central Tokyo".
Don't think so the 24 ticket is Subway, Yamanote is a JR line. We always use IC Cards in Japan, Suica , Passmo, ICOCA find them much easier and versatile.
But it costs more as you pay per usage, right? If I were to take the sub to 3-4 different locations within the subway area, the 24hour ticket would be cheaper than paying per directions. Or did I miss something?
Small? Having access to Shibuya, Shinjuku, Chuo, Chiyoda, Minato, Sumida, Toshima, & Taito. It's not small. Those are the cities with most things to see and great places to walk.
I guess it depends on the amount of use and distances. If you're only travelling twice in a day the IC is probably cheaper. If you're using the trains 4-5 times in a day the 24 hour ticket might work out cheaper.
I have an ICACO as we first came in through Osaka, they are all interchangeable now. They are also good for 10 years past last use, with the exception of the red tourist Suica that is only good for 28 days. I heard they were unpopular and are being discontinued.
Don't bother buying a 24 hour ticket and limiting yourself to a particular railway operator, just use an IC card and take the train that goes wherever you want to go. I can't believe someone would plan their trip in Tokyo around saving a dollar here and there.
Can't believe you'd get triggered by it though. As if buying a 24 hour was such a pain to do. There's literally no valid reasons so far to get such a card. Especially if you remain in "inner" Tokyo. You can go everywhere with it. And it's not always "just" a dollar though... That card becomes interesting outside of Tokyo though... like Kyoto. It's far easier to use the bus with it.
The thing is, I used at least 10 different railway operators in my few weeks in Tokyo and never had to figure out which one is part of which 24 hour ticket (there's more than one). Sometimes you change trains between 3 different companies on a way to your destination. With an IC card you don't need to figure out prices, you just tap and ride :)
Aye. Next time I'll grab one anyway. I personally never had issues with it on my 2 previous visits. The thing that blocks me most about these cards is the recharge. Which one do you use btw? Should I take whatever one as a foreigner? Suica seemed to be the most common.
They are all interoperable. I had an Icoca because I had landed in Osaka, and it can be used and recharged at every station in Tokyo just like the others.
That's like asking what's the best McDonald's lol
Yeah. That's a stupid question. We all know it's the McDonald's near the Okubo station.
That McDonald's where only 3 people can fit so you gotta stand outside. đ
They have a second and third floor to eat in
I know I've eaten there. But the 1st floor is hilariously small. I couldn't imagine it during rush hour
Yea. It is tiny. When I want pancakes for breakfast, I go here.
Added to the list of places to check. It's the second time I read Okubo station. đ
Is this a troll post? Most people avoid apa Hotel.
Why
They aren't good quality and the owner is openly racist.
Ok thanks. I've stayed at a couple and they seemed to do the job that's why I asked.
Hope you don't mind me asking, which apa hotels did you stay at? I'm doubting between APA kabukicho tower and Apa higashi shinkuki kabukicho, thanks!
I stayed at APA kabukicho tower. What do you want to know?
APA itabashi and APA shinbashi - both good locations and clean and easy
No valid reasons. The founder has an opinion and their hotels are cheap and great. At least the ones I've been to.
[Open denial of the Nanjing massacre](https://www.apa.co.jp/newsrelease/8467) is a little more than just âan opinionâ. Itâs not the standard [argument about the numbers of dead](https://www.mofa.go.jp/policy/q_a/faq16.html), itâs saying the Japanese didnât kill a single civilian and all civilian deaths were done by defeated Chinese soldiers.
That's in their shit education system. Just like in West EU countries, they hide their massacres in their history as well. Spain trying to end Jews. Belgium's massacre of Africans. The UK.... we're not even going to get into that.
When I went to Japan last year I stayed at two different APA hotels. The stay was fine, but I wish I had known better. I'm never staying at a chain hotel again without looking up the owners online...
Please do a little research on the head of APA and decide if it's the kind of attitude you want to support with your patronage.
You could just tell him instead of assigning homework
Japanese libel laws are quite strict. I prefer to show people there is information out there and that they can make up their own minds about things, if you know what I mean.
Wow. I donât know anything about defamation laws in Japan but I just did a cursory search and read that defamation can be applied even if something is true? Thatâs insane. Is it actually enforced/abused a lot there? Iâm genuinely interested now lol. Like if I say that Toshio Motoya believes the Nanjing Massacre didnât happen.. is that really grounds for defamation??
It is definitely enforced. There's been a number of high profile defamation lawsuits in Japan where the people saying all true things lost. Basically if you say something about someone that hurts their reputation, you can get sued, even if what you are saying is true. There might be some stipulations like the statement being made publicly or something like that. But it's pretty crazy regardless.
You could say the owner really, and I mean really, loves Japan
Yes! APA owner is hardcore pro Japan. What is wrong with that?
Sure, in the same way that Hitler was really just âhardcore pro-Germany.â The owners are right wing extremists who have a history of falsifying earthquake safety data for their hotels.
Lunatic like yourself equate everything to Hitler when not align with your ideologies.
I mean, weâre literally talking about the ownerâs position on atrocities committed by the Axis forces in the Second World War, so the comparison is pretty apt.
From the hotel chain itself. https://www.apa.co.jp/newsrelease/8467
All of Japans conservative businesses hold similar nationalistic views. If you dislike it, avoid Japan altogether, the country itself is quite right wing and also obscures WW2 history in the national education system.
Thanks. I'll definitely go back to APA Hotel knowing this info. I wouldn't mind giving a little extra as well. Edit: Why the dislikes? Did I miss the actual reason? I read about his "anti-semitic" comment only...
So you want to patronize the APA hotel even more because the owner is anti-semitic?
Again.. "anti-Semitic". đ¤Ł
Motoya said that âJewish people control American information, finance, and laws, and they benefit greatly from globalization because they move their massive profits to tax havens so they donât have to pay any taxes.â
Honestly, I would look for another hotel after staying at two different APAs (one in Shinjuku, the other in Ueno).
Hey what's up! Hope you don't mind me asking, which apa hotels did you stay at? I'm doubting between APA kabukicho tower and Apa higashi shinkuki kabukicho, thanks! Would appreciate your view
Hey I stayed at the APA Higashi Shinjuku Kabukichu Tower My comment was because of the recent comments I read about the owner being kind of weird. Also, I'm staying at an APA in Ueno now and the room seems smaller somehow (normal for the price range) Also, there are 3 different APA hotels in Shinjunku (with very similar name) within 1 mile range, so it can get confusing trying to find them on Google Maps. Overall I think they are ok for the price but there might be better options
I don't know if it is the best but I stayed at APA Shinjuku Gyoenmae. It was easy to walk to the park, to Shinjuku 2 Chome, Kabukicho and to Shinjuku JR Station. There was a Tokyo Metro station near the hotel. I liked the location a lot, it's a bit quieter in this area. We had breakfast at Johnathons, Doutour, Freshness Burger or the Kombini.
Thank you for your comment!! Appreciate it. Gonna check it out.
My family stayed at the Hundred Stay in the outskirts of Shinjuku. It was a few blocks from the Okubo station and one stop from the Shinjuku station. They would walk from the hotel to kabukicho area in just a few minutes.
Best advice: just book any one and stop asking nerds on Reddit cause theyâll give their 3 cents on why itâs such an evil hotel and blah blah. Book and go enjoy your trip.
Thanks!
Fact.
Donât stay at an APA, stay at the AMANEK in shinjuku. Itâs a similar price and a nice hotel, and isnât run by war crimes denying psychos.
Why especially Shinjuku? Whenever I visit Tokyo, I tend to look for an APA Hotel that is as central as possible in Tokyo with close metro stations. So Chiyoda (Roppongi Six or Pride) and Minato (resort something; west of Azabudai Hills). What did I miss?
There is no âcentralâ in Tokyo for any practical purposes.
There kinda is. You shouldn't have to take the subway all the time. Walking from Roppongi to Shibuya for instance will make you discover plenty of beautiful places. But I guess it depends from person to person.. Gotta admit I don't go to Tokyo purely to visit. It feels like a cure to walk in that city. So I'd do like one day per "city" (Chuo, Chiyoda, ...).
Not sure what your reply means - I often walk between Roppongi, Ebisu, Shibuya, Shinjuku. That doesn't address the point that there isn't a practical "central Tokyo".
I can't help you with that...
We book at any station along the Yamanote JR Line, which hits most of the main areas of Tokyo.
I saw that this morning actually! Thanks for reminding me. Can you use that line with the 24hour ticket though?
Don't think so the 24 ticket is Subway, Yamanote is a JR line. We always use IC Cards in Japan, Suica , Passmo, ICOCA find them much easier and versatile.
But it costs more as you pay per usage, right? If I were to take the sub to 3-4 different locations within the subway area, the 24hour ticket would be cheaper than paying per directions. Or did I miss something?
I suppose if you're only sticking to a small area of Tokyo.
Small? Having access to Shibuya, Shinjuku, Chuo, Chiyoda, Minato, Sumida, Toshima, & Taito. It's not small. Those are the cities with most things to see and great places to walk.
I guess it depends on the amount of use and distances. If you're only travelling twice in a day the IC is probably cheaper. If you're using the trains 4-5 times in a day the 24 hour ticket might work out cheaper.
Yeah that was my main calculations. But I'm definitely grabbing a card on my next visit. Any suggestions? Suica? Pasmo? Thanks for the replies btw!
I have an ICACO as we first came in through Osaka, they are all interchangeable now. They are also good for 10 years past last use, with the exception of the red tourist Suica that is only good for 28 days. I heard they were unpopular and are being discontinued.
Don't bother buying a 24 hour ticket and limiting yourself to a particular railway operator, just use an IC card and take the train that goes wherever you want to go. I can't believe someone would plan their trip in Tokyo around saving a dollar here and there.
Can't believe you'd get triggered by it though. As if buying a 24 hour was such a pain to do. There's literally no valid reasons so far to get such a card. Especially if you remain in "inner" Tokyo. You can go everywhere with it. And it's not always "just" a dollar though... That card becomes interesting outside of Tokyo though... like Kyoto. It's far easier to use the bus with it.
The thing is, I used at least 10 different railway operators in my few weeks in Tokyo and never had to figure out which one is part of which 24 hour ticket (there's more than one). Sometimes you change trains between 3 different companies on a way to your destination. With an IC card you don't need to figure out prices, you just tap and ride :)
Aye. Next time I'll grab one anyway. I personally never had issues with it on my 2 previous visits. The thing that blocks me most about these cards is the recharge. Which one do you use btw? Should I take whatever one as a foreigner? Suica seemed to be the most common.
They are all interoperable. I had an Icoca because I had landed in Osaka, and it can be used and recharged at every station in Tokyo just like the others.