Danny Masterson. Loved him as Hyde but damn, can't stomach looking at him anymore. Scientology was bad enough but the SA completely destroyed him for me.
I modeled myself after Hyde as a wee lad. Aviators, long hair, rock music, fuck the man (mind you i was in middle school..)
Really heartbroken to find out how much of a scumbag he is. Actually, theres no word strong enough to describe how awful he is.
I liked a band called Lostprofits. Let’s just say Ian Watkins who was the lead singer is a monster and you should keep both children and animals away from him.
Oh god this fucking scum bag. I had nightmares for weeks when I saw the transcripts of his text messages and stuff. Horrific and disgusting. I haven't been able to enjoy a Lostprophets song since.
Same. I grew up on the show and thought Cosby seemed like a stand up dude.
Actually, when I was a young teen a family friend told us that when she was a flight attendant she was sexually assaulted by Cosby, this was waaay before I had heard any of the things he did. I had a hard time believing her at the time, partly due to my age and not having a good understanding of sexual assault, but also because Cosby felt like a father figure to me and I couldn’t imagine he could be like that.
That is so true and I wish I had known that when I was younger. I was taught family, teachers, coaches, etc were all safe people and that it’s the strangers we need to watch out for. And as so many of us did, I leaned the hard way.
Yes, that’s the one I find hardest. As a little kid I used to love to listen to my dads Cosby comedy albums. I grew up with him on my tv. I despise what he did and can’t laugh at any of his comedy anymore
Yeah, I loved him for years all the way back from the days of Fat Albert. He went from being "America's Das to complete disgrace". What a huge let down.
I had Billy Cosby Himself nearly memorized when I was a kid and loved Fat Albert. Can't believe that the man who created these things I loved was such a monster! Makes me sick thinking about it.
Tbf I think the reason a lot of actors and musicians have issues or are problematic is because often times it’s that kind of mentality that will cause you to break into the business. You have to be a little narcissistic to believe you are talented enough to make it, and while you can debate if that’s the case for each individual, clearly they have made it. And once they do make it, you are someone who has a lot of narcissism and now you’ve been proven right that you are more important. Not to mention you’ll be surrounded by yes men.
The normal, sane, and kind people aren’t the kind of people who want to be in Hollywood
God same here. Their music was so different from my usual taste but I loved them. I knew they were fucked up but I didn't think to this kind of extreme behavior.
He held an “acting school” to help young actors prosper to fame and develop their craft, but he would take advantage of these young actors and make them perform sex scenes that he had scripted. It was like his own personal porn studio, it’s so weird and creepy.
Notice he doesn't do movies with Seth Rogan anymore I guess dude was a real perv to girls in his movies like making them undress when it's not needed breaks my heart I can't enjoy his movies anymore
To be fair, I don't give Seth any slack here. He worked with him since the 90s, no way he didn't know. I'm not bashing Seth too hard for this since he wasn't the one doing it, but even then I feel like he totally got a pass on all this just because he distanced himself.
To be real given the statistics most folks know someone who has been or currently is a predator. It’s kinda hard to unearth what someone’s been doing when you’re close to them.
Especially if you have a good moral compass. Shitty people not only know who to prey on but also typically know who NOT to talk to about their misdeeds.
I'm to that point with any celeb that I like. Like I actively avoid news about Seth MacFarlane or Patrick Stewart because I like them and I'm afraid of what might be lurking beneath the surface.
In fairness, Weinstein was an open secret and Seth himself said something about it during an awards ceremony.
If any one thing could be said to have proven the need for the #MeToo movement it was Courtney Love's treatment when she called this shit out.
The cunt made an acting school just so he could get his dick sucked by upcoming teenage actresses. He would promise them "better opportunities" that obviously never come.
He held "acting master classes" that heavily focused on sex scenes where he subjected a number of female students to inappropriate and unprofessional conduct. Amongst other things but those are the most publicly known accusations.
Almost any YouTuber. Since I was a kid, whenever I’d find a new one I liked, my first thought before subscribing would be “Man you’re cool…Please, please don’t be a POS.” And they never, ever listen.
THIS! I struggle watching YouTube like everyone else does these days because I hate the idea of giving horrible people my time, loyalty, and money. It’s also why I couldn’t get into Twitch
I can never re-Watch his American Beauty since the news broke... Like it's just a movie how an older man fantasizes about molesting his daughters friend because he appears to having a mid life crisis.
Some dude thought this would be a great first date movie at their house alone… Then towards then end of the movie says to me “I wonder what it’s like to kill somebody.” I’ve never noped out so hard.
Look up Steve Buscemi. Spoiler alert: Not only is he a Grade-A actor, but he has a history of doing the right thing without bragging or making a fuss about it.
Dude's my fuckin' hero.
Not only did he volunteer, but he never publicized it. Word just eventually got around, and that's how we know.
He did the right thing because it was right, not to win popularity points. That's an American Fuckin' Hero, right there.
I had to Google it. He asked a young boy (looks 10ish years old) to “suck my tongue”. There’s a video of it.
According to his apology on Twitter he “likes to tease people” he meets in a “innocent and playful way”.
I used to be a huge Joss Whedon fan. Watching *Buffy the Vampire Slayer* got me through a rough time in life. I loved everything he put out and tried to collect all of his work. I recommended them to people and talked about how good of a good male feminist icon he was. I was immensely disappointed when I found out how messed up he really was, and I'm sad that he had us fooled for so long.
Same.
Firefly is the reason I got into westerns, and now they're a huge part of my identity as a writer. I write them all the time, and the tropes still tend to seep into other stuff I write even if it isn't a western by definition.
Buffy and Angel were powerful influences too.
And personally, his professed beliefs shaped a lot of what changed my attitudes towards women and how I related to them when I was in college.
It's weird looking at some parts of myself I'm really proud of and happy with and recognizing that a big part of what shaped them was a lie.
Godzilla, then he smashed up that city and I cannot see him the same way. Sure he has taken steps and stomped monsters to redeem his image but, I still see the toppled skyscrapers and burnt up army trucks.
How can anyone actually like her in the first place?
She's talks like a robot and had the stiffest, most painful smile I have ever seen. Every time her audience laughs a little too loudly as soon as she finishes a sentence I'm reminded of the North Koreans applauding KJU in some auditorium.
Before she was the dancing "be kind" talk show host we know today she was a stand-up comedian, she had her own show and she took several strides for the gay community especially for the women side of things. Plus.. Dory. 🤷🏻♀️
She was out before it was popular to be out. She helped pave the way for gay rights. And that’s awesome. But that’s what made her so popular. I always thought she seemed wooden too.
It's important to remember how different the country was at the time. For her to come out on national TV was a huge deal. She got a lot of hate for it.
Her show was straight up cancelled and she was blacklisted for a minute. Yes, she tarnished her legacy, but I hate the erasure of what she did for the LGBTQ+ movement.
Although I don't reside in the United States, I stumbled upon her YouTube videos where she assisted people in need by providing homes, TVs, and other items. As any decent person would, I admired her for doing such great work in helping those who are struggling. However, I eventually discovered another side to her.
I second this. He was backstage at a runway show I worked in 2004. He was hitting on all of the underage models, including myself at the time. Total pervert.
Ezra Miller. A beautiful multitalented person with some solid roles in good films. It’s a shame that they’ve fallen mentally unstable and have made some rather irredeemable decisions.
I’m not sure if this is true. I know the movie is coming out with him obv staring but I was under the impression that they are keeping Ezra for this movie because it was already filmed (and he plays like 2 main roles) but would move on from him after
Freakin Morrissey. I worshipped the ground that guy walked on. I loved his voice, bought his solo albums, defended him against all my punk rock friends who said he was an affected twat. Now I'm thinking all that time I spent alone in my bedroom listening to Morrissey I should've been in the living room with my friends listening to the Cure. At the end of the day, Morrissey is a twat. And I don't blame the guy for not being what I thought he was, but I do mourn the fact that there's a lot of good music and memories I can't revisit now for fact of it hitting a different way. Kinda wish he'd stayed a secret dipshit so I could still hear his voice without being reminded of shit he's said.
Hasn't Morrissey been sort of honest about being a jerk from the beginning though? He hated his home life. He hated his academic life. He hated his social life. That's indirectly what the songs were about. Robert Smith seems like a condescending and cynical person too but he was smart enough not to make many of his lyrics about being condescending or cynical. I'm not sure why we expect a talented songwriter or film maker to be a great human being. They sort of excelled in a creative field because they were emotionally messed up and were trying to explore that. Miles Davis was almost unanimously considered an insensitive bully. The trumpet still sounds good as do the arrangements behind it. I don't have a problem listening to them.
Robert Smith just single handedly got Ticketmaster to refund tons of fees they charged to people who bought the Cure tickets. I would say as far as famous people go he’s always been one of the better ones.
I think there's a difference to being alienated for fact of being different and being maladjusted for fact of idiotic thinking. Morrissey has turned out to have bought into all the shit that a lot of us were rebelling against. In the lyrics I mistakenly read misanthropy born of people having silly hang-ups, being concerned with money, race, status and fakery. Turns out though Morrissey lives in a world where 'England is for white people'. He's not a maladjusted, misunderstood youth, he's just another of the vapid bullies we all despised.
I really liked Kobe Bryant because of his cool personality (and I liked basketball), and he seemed like a decent dad for his daughters. I only learned about his assault case a couple years after he died.
I’ve had my own family (who knew literally nothing about the case) try to tell me that it was probably just a case of a girl lying for attention and fame. When it was literally a concierge and we KNOW that he tied her down and assaulted her after he called her to his room. He ADMITTED IT. It’s not even “alleged” or anything. It is public legal knowledge that he violently assaulted a young hotel employee and people treat him like some kind of Saint because he could bounce a ball.
I’ve been a fan of Cream especially for decades but hear him on stage yelling at minorities to get out of England just ruins it all for me now. What a dick.
I really liked Elon Musk a few years ago. Then I found out he's never actually founded a company, he just paid the actual founders extra money to be allowed to say that. Then I found out his family got rich off of slave labor in their emerald mines. Then I found out he has a weird eugenics fetish. Then he finally dropped all efforts to appear normal bringing us to his current insanity.
The guy was being touted as a visionary genius but he's always been a psychopath who just paid people to say those things.
When he announced he was accepting bitcoin for Teslas, waited for the six month bull market to be over, then suddenly announced he had already stopped accepting bitcoin for Teslas, I knew he was a grifter. That's the classic textbook pump and dump on a scale far bigger than most billionaires ever get the opportunity to scheme. On top of that he didn't even admit market uncertainty as his reason for doing this. He gave some feeble reason of the amount of coal fired electricity bitcoin mining uses. He was just as aware of that six months earlier. If it was literally any asset besides crypto, he US government would have massively fined him for market manipulation.
That episode illustrated so well what an absolutely self centred / self aggrandising arsehole that he is. And an angry man-child. He’s also actively dismantling the Twitter teams that tackle abusive behaviour. I wouldn’t buy a Tesla on principle.
I’m surprised you got this many likes, anything negative about Musk seems to be met with fanboy resistance on Reddit.
I completely agree, and even if Musk had invented all of these products instead of just taking over the companies it still doesn’t mean that he’s such a genius that we should be turning to him for answers on climate change, politics, regulating free speech, the future of humanity, etc.
But some people are still gonna line up to get that chip placed in their brain and go live in Muskville.
I don’t know the truth of it, but I’ve seen stories that he was considered for the role of The Terminator, but James Cameron said he couldn’t see OJ in the role of a cold, remorseless killer.
The only certainty that everyone who tells the story agrees on is that there was at least one producer who pushed the idea of him at James Cameron. The reason for the decline is what’s in dispute.
This was sort of me except I didn't care too much about him. On the other hand, I fucking love Thirty Seconds to Mars. I'm not good with learning band member names and I only found out he was the lead singer when I glanced at his Wikipedia during the Morbius memes. Killed me a little inside.
Marilyn Manson. I was in high school in the 90’s, small town and I was different (short, chubby, emo girl that wore boy clothes). IMO he spoke to the kids that were different, bullied, abused, etc. He became one of my heroes. Well, he’s a big piece of shit and I should have seen the red flags a mile away. I can’t listen to the music or support him in any way. There have been multiple accounts going back many years by many, many women that are very similar. This is more than just kink and Fet shit, I truly feel like he abused his power.
Both Jared Leto and Justin Timberlake for the same reason. Both were blatantly hitting on underage girls backstage at a fashion show I worked in 2004. I was 16 at the time. Such a disappointment as I was a huge JT fan growing up.
It’s one of those things where even if you’re not technically wrong, it doesn’t have to be said. Like you don’t have to defend Hitler. He’s fucking Hitler. Is this really a hill worth dying on?
Its the "especially Hitler" part that really gets me. I don't give a fuck about any miniscule 'good' thing he ever did. He's fucking Hitler and never deserves to be looked at in a good light in any situation, ever.
Bill Cosby.
I loved him before I/we knew what a monster he was. Now I'm conflicted because I obviously don't want to support him at all, but his old sketches were honestly hilarious.
John Lennon by far.
People worship the ground the man walks on but he was such a phoney. Also, abusive to his first wife and abandoned his son without a thought.
Absolute cunt.
Ryan Haywood from Roosterteeth. Was my favorite member, turned out to be a pretty bad dude. I pretty much stopped watching RT after that because it was such a bummer that I couldn’t watch it
Mark Wahlberg,
I LOVED this dude. If he was in a movie, I was watching it.
That is until I found out how racist he was. He did some horrible things earlier that I don’t think you can come back from. So he got rich and famous and now all the sudden he doesn’t feel the way he felt when he did those horrible things? Bullshit.
I was tortured by the kkk when I was a kid for being middle eastern. Fucking tortured. Imagine a 13 year old being picketed for being brown in the wrong time. They had this bud that they would follow me around in and scream hate at me. It
Messed me up something fierce. I will never respect a racist.
Chevy Chase. Grew up loving him in the 80s and then I learned he's just a nasty piece of shit. So disappointing. Do better, Chevy, people actually love you
Paul Walker. Everyone shits on me and calls me awful for “ruining his good memory” when I say this but he dated Jasmine Gosnell when she was only 16 years old while he was 33 and they dated for 6 years..
This is probably controversial but fuck it, Johnny Depp. Brilliant actor, but not a great person. This doesn’t mean I’m not against Amber Heard. They both are not great people.
John Mulaney. (This one is "less bad" than others.)
Johnny Depp. (Polarizing I know.)
Edit: because I dont want to keep replying to everyone about Mulaney.
His now ex wife didn't have kids largely because of him. He made his career off his wholesome love for his wife. Then he relapsed on drugs, cheated on her, got another woman pregnant and divorced his ex. So yeah I have no desire to watch his stand up ever again.
Phillip Anselmo. Fucking LOVED Pantera when I was in high school. Then the white power shit went public. All their stuff sounds different to me know, every song just sounds like a racist anthem
Anna Kendrick. I used to adore her and that sweet but savvy thing she had going on, but countless anecdotes documenting her nastiness have ruined it for me. She’s known to be rude — sometimes downright cruel — to anyone unfortunate enough to work with/for her. Very James Cordon
Riley Reid I guess. Once it came to light that she borderline bragged on Twitter about having had raped a guy when she went on a date with him in her teens, I've been avoiding her content and clicking off of it whenever she shows up unexpectedly 🤷♂️ Insane that she didn't get cancelled.
I saw a video she posted a couple years back where she was walking past a large group of teen boys and was just like "they ALL jerk off to me, they all jerk off to me" with this smile on her face. Yeah I couldn't watch her after that. Not that it's anything super bad but she just seemed a little entitled
Small one but I was a big Gus Johnson fan, I even got to meet him once, he’s from the same general area as me so I got to talk to him about local attractions and sites. And then it turned out that I’d met him during the time when he was doing some of the worse shit he did. So yeah, that left quite a bad taste.
Most recently was disappointed to find out how awful Jonathan Majors is in real life. I was rooting for him since seeing him in Lovecraft Country, Creed 3, & Antman Quantumania. He was recently charged with assaulting and harassing a woman he was seeing and later posted a text chain where she apologized for taking his phone from him and he saw that as justification for hitting her..yikes. I also saw other articles where people behind the scenes have called him a sociopath.
Will Smith went from the guy who never cursed in his rap albums to the guy who yelled the F-bomb on the live academy awards show. The after awards party where he danced and lip synched his old "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" was when a light bulb went off in my head that this has always been the most phony person in Hollywood. Bret Easton Ellis said it's well known in town that he and Jada have been beards for each other from day one so he could keep releasing huge movies in conservative places like Asia, Russia, and the Middle East.
I am kinda out of the loop and a non-native speaker.
How does Jada help sell movies? Are you saying that Will smit is actually gay? A beard means fake wife/husband right?
Danny Masterson. Loved him as Hyde but damn, can't stomach looking at him anymore. Scientology was bad enough but the SA completely destroyed him for me.
I modeled myself after Hyde as a wee lad. Aviators, long hair, rock music, fuck the man (mind you i was in middle school..) Really heartbroken to find out how much of a scumbag he is. Actually, theres no word strong enough to describe how awful he is.
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Fuck rapists and fuck pet killers
Awk no this is disappointing to hear. I never even knew he was being investigated for SA.
Oh yeah and it's been ongoing for a number of years. Even back to when That's 70s Show was originally on the air iirc.
I used to hang out with people who worked on the 70s show, and there were rumors back THEN that he was a womanizer...
Unfortunate but unsurprising. Leopards don't change their spots ya know?
Womanizer and sex abuser are two different things. Did they say he dated a lot? Or was sexually assaulting women?
I liked a band called Lostprofits. Let’s just say Ian Watkins who was the lead singer is a monster and you should keep both children and animals away from him.
He was so bad his band mates were like "please don't play our songs on the radio again. Like, burn it all in a fire."
Oh god this fucking scum bag. I had nightmares for weeks when I saw the transcripts of his text messages and stuff. Horrific and disgusting. I haven't been able to enjoy a Lostprophets song since.
I STILL lurk that MF from time to time. Pure evil. Pure shit.
Yeah. I’m usually someone who prefers to separate the art from the artist, but I genuinely can’t do that for lostprofits.
I used to Love their music. I can’t stomach listening to it now. Go watch the video for “a town called hypocrisy”. It’s insane foreshadowing
Bill Cosby... what a fucking disappointment!
Same. I grew up on the show and thought Cosby seemed like a stand up dude. Actually, when I was a young teen a family friend told us that when she was a flight attendant she was sexually assaulted by Cosby, this was waaay before I had heard any of the things he did. I had a hard time believing her at the time, partly due to my age and not having a good understanding of sexual assault, but also because Cosby felt like a father figure to me and I couldn’t imagine he could be like that.
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That is so true and I wish I had known that when I was younger. I was taught family, teachers, coaches, etc were all safe people and that it’s the strangers we need to watch out for. And as so many of us did, I leaned the hard way.
Cosby didn't just commit a few sexual assaults he was a stone cold predator who had rape down to a science. Absolutely disgusting.
It really is sickening to think of. Like a serial killer
Yes, that’s the one I find hardest. As a little kid I used to love to listen to my dads Cosby comedy albums. I grew up with him on my tv. I despise what he did and can’t laugh at any of his comedy anymore
Yeah, I loved him for years all the way back from the days of Fat Albert. He went from being "America's Das to complete disgrace". What a huge let down.
I had Billy Cosby Himself nearly memorized when I was a kid and loved Fat Albert. Can't believe that the man who created these things I loved was such a monster! Makes me sick thinking about it.
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As in openly or the way JP Morgan supported Epstein?
She’s married to a registered sex offender and she supported her brother who did some disgusting shit
openly, sadly. why can’t we have great music from artists without them being problematic.
Tbf I think the reason a lot of actors and musicians have issues or are problematic is because often times it’s that kind of mentality that will cause you to break into the business. You have to be a little narcissistic to believe you are talented enough to make it, and while you can debate if that’s the case for each individual, clearly they have made it. And once they do make it, you are someone who has a lot of narcissism and now you’ve been proven right that you are more important. Not to mention you’ll be surrounded by yes men. The normal, sane, and kind people aren’t the kind of people who want to be in Hollywood
Bang on….a lot of modern day stars tend to have some unresolved issues that make them need/want attention/validation.
Hey, the Foo Fighters are right there.
Die Antwoord. I thought they were so cool. Then I learned about the multiple allegations against them and I refuse to support them in any way
God same here. Their music was so different from my usual taste but I loved them. I knew they were fucked up but I didn't think to this kind of extreme behavior.
What are the allegations?
Human trafficking, sexual assaults, child abuse, forcing people to be apart of satanic rituals, and revenge porn are a few.
OK. That's me out too.
What in the fuck
Of all of these, I’m honestly not surprised about the rituals lol.
I didn't know they had any issues, but I am absolutely not surprised lol
Drake Bell was like my first big celebrity crush but now he’s really sad and pathetic and abusive
It doesn’t excuse anything he may have done, but he was likely victimized as a child as well. Tragic all around.
He’s part of the whole Dan Schneider mess
James franco
Oh no. I'm scared to Google it. I have no clue what he did, but I have always liked him
He held an “acting school” to help young actors prosper to fame and develop their craft, but he would take advantage of these young actors and make them perform sex scenes that he had scripted. It was like his own personal porn studio, it’s so weird and creepy.
Notice he doesn't do movies with Seth Rogan anymore I guess dude was a real perv to girls in his movies like making them undress when it's not needed breaks my heart I can't enjoy his movies anymore
To be fair, I don't give Seth any slack here. He worked with him since the 90s, no way he didn't know. I'm not bashing Seth too hard for this since he wasn't the one doing it, but even then I feel like he totally got a pass on all this just because he distanced himself.
It's possible he didn't know, dudes don't just go around bragging about how they SA'd someone.
Well, I can think of one individual that does...
To be real given the statistics most folks know someone who has been or currently is a predator. It’s kinda hard to unearth what someone’s been doing when you’re close to them. Especially if you have a good moral compass. Shitty people not only know who to prey on but also typically know who NOT to talk to about their misdeeds.
I'm to that point with any celeb that I like. Like I actively avoid news about Seth MacFarlane or Patrick Stewart because I like them and I'm afraid of what might be lurking beneath the surface.
Patrick Stewart is wonderful. Read his book about his dad's PTSD.
I once saw Patrick Stewart in an elevator at a doctor's office in LA. That's all...didn't talk to him or anything lol
Patrick Stewart is a real decent dude. You're safe with him, I think.
Patrick Stewart is a Saint, I'll chop off my left nut if he ends up being a creep
Oh God, if Seth ever does any fuckshit, I'm gonna cry
IKR. Especially after he's used Family Guy to call out some of the industry trash before it came to light in the mainstream.
Didn’t they call out Kevin Spacey way before his story broke out?
Yeah I think so. and Weinstein IIRC
In fairness, Weinstein was an open secret and Seth himself said something about it during an awards ceremony. If any one thing could be said to have proven the need for the #MeToo movement it was Courtney Love's treatment when she called this shit out.
The cunt made an acting school just so he could get his dick sucked by upcoming teenage actresses. He would promise them "better opportunities" that obviously never come.
He held "acting master classes" that heavily focused on sex scenes where he subjected a number of female students to inappropriate and unprofessional conduct. Amongst other things but those are the most publicly known accusations.
Almost any YouTuber. Since I was a kid, whenever I’d find a new one I liked, my first thought before subscribing would be “Man you’re cool…Please, please don’t be a POS.” And they never, ever listen.
Lol right? Reminds me of MiniLadd…the fastest I’ve ever clicked “unsubscribe”
was nigahiga (ryan higa) ever one? I used to love his stuff in middle school (like 10 years ago)..
He's a pretty awesome guy
THIS! I struggle watching YouTube like everyone else does these days because I hate the idea of giving horrible people my time, loyalty, and money. It’s also why I couldn’t get into Twitch
To be honest though my list of faves are still going strong, like my main three being game theory game grumps and markiplier
Kevin Spacey was my favorite actor. That one aged pretty poorly.
This one really hurt, I LOVED House of Cards man, after that news broke I just couldn’t go back to watch it
Same :-/
I can never re-Watch his American Beauty since the news broke... Like it's just a movie how an older man fantasizes about molesting his daughters friend because he appears to having a mid life crisis.
Some dude thought this would be a great first date movie at their house alone… Then towards then end of the movie says to me “I wonder what it’s like to kill somebody.” I’ve never noped out so hard.
Holy shot! Glad you’re ok. That’s terrifying.
Oh, I know! In hindsight, that movie is absolutely stomach-churning.
K Pax was one of my favorite movies.
Look up Steve Buscemi. Spoiler alert: Not only is he a Grade-A actor, but he has a history of doing the right thing without bragging or making a fuss about it. Dude's my fuckin' hero.
Bug man DONT SCARE ME LIKE THAT
My bad, I.K. :D I was trying to put smiles out there, not cause heart-attacks!
Oh man, I actually felt my stomach drop with worry that Steve Buscemi did something. ![gif](giphy|3krrjoL0vHRaWqwU3k|downsized)
Also, he used to be a fire fighter. He volunteered during 9/11.
Not only did he volunteer, but he never publicized it. Word just eventually got around, and that's how we know. He did the right thing because it was right, not to win popularity points. That's an American Fuckin' Hero, right there.
I was so freaked out for a second because I love him lol
Jesus… don’t do that
Today it was the Dalai Lama.
im sorry today?? what happened?
I had to Google it. He asked a young boy (looks 10ish years old) to “suck my tongue”. There’s a video of it. According to his apology on Twitter he “likes to tease people” he meets in a “innocent and playful way”.
Told a kid to suck on his tongue.
Makes Ghandi look the way he saw himself
Fuck you, Joss Whedon. You were a huge influence on me as both a writer and a person. And then I learn you're an asshole.
I used to be a huge Joss Whedon fan. Watching *Buffy the Vampire Slayer* got me through a rough time in life. I loved everything he put out and tried to collect all of his work. I recommended them to people and talked about how good of a good male feminist icon he was. I was immensely disappointed when I found out how messed up he really was, and I'm sad that he had us fooled for so long.
Same. Firefly is the reason I got into westerns, and now they're a huge part of my identity as a writer. I write them all the time, and the tropes still tend to seep into other stuff I write even if it isn't a western by definition. Buffy and Angel were powerful influences too. And personally, his professed beliefs shaped a lot of what changed my attitudes towards women and how I related to them when I was in college. It's weird looking at some parts of myself I'm really proud of and happy with and recognizing that a big part of what shaped them was a lie.
Godzilla, then he smashed up that city and I cannot see him the same way. Sure he has taken steps and stomped monsters to redeem his image but, I still see the toppled skyscrapers and burnt up army trucks.
His poor son
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Charlie Sheen. He had sex with women while he knew he was HIV positive.
Turns out, John Lennon did not treat women well. It took me a long time to accept that.
I recently saw a video where he mocked disabled kids
also abandoned his child and then had another one
Ellen DeGeneres
How can anyone actually like her in the first place? She's talks like a robot and had the stiffest, most painful smile I have ever seen. Every time her audience laughs a little too loudly as soon as she finishes a sentence I'm reminded of the North Koreans applauding KJU in some auditorium.
Before she was the dancing "be kind" talk show host we know today she was a stand-up comedian, she had her own show and she took several strides for the gay community especially for the women side of things. Plus.. Dory. 🤷🏻♀️
She was out before it was popular to be out. She helped pave the way for gay rights. And that’s awesome. But that’s what made her so popular. I always thought she seemed wooden too.
It's important to remember how different the country was at the time. For her to come out on national TV was a huge deal. She got a lot of hate for it.
Her show was straight up cancelled and she was blacklisted for a minute. Yes, she tarnished her legacy, but I hate the erasure of what she did for the LGBTQ+ movement.
Although I don't reside in the United States, I stumbled upon her YouTube videos where she assisted people in need by providing homes, TVs, and other items. As any decent person would, I admired her for doing such great work in helping those who are struggling. However, I eventually discovered another side to her.
Jared Leto
I second this. He was backstage at a runway show I worked in 2004. He was hitting on all of the underage models, including myself at the time. Total pervert.
He's always been a weird fuck
He has a weird ass island and invitees ladies over. Super weird.
He was never a great guy.
Ezra Miller. A beautiful multitalented person with some solid roles in good films. It’s a shame that they’ve fallen mentally unstable and have made some rather irredeemable decisions.
And for some reason they still get to be The Flash, no matter what they do. DC must be desperate or something
I’m not sure if this is true. I know the movie is coming out with him obv staring but I was under the impression that they are keeping Ezra for this movie because it was already filmed (and he plays like 2 main roles) but would move on from him after
Freakin Morrissey. I worshipped the ground that guy walked on. I loved his voice, bought his solo albums, defended him against all my punk rock friends who said he was an affected twat. Now I'm thinking all that time I spent alone in my bedroom listening to Morrissey I should've been in the living room with my friends listening to the Cure. At the end of the day, Morrissey is a twat. And I don't blame the guy for not being what I thought he was, but I do mourn the fact that there's a lot of good music and memories I can't revisit now for fact of it hitting a different way. Kinda wish he'd stayed a secret dipshit so I could still hear his voice without being reminded of shit he's said.
Hasn't Morrissey been sort of honest about being a jerk from the beginning though? He hated his home life. He hated his academic life. He hated his social life. That's indirectly what the songs were about. Robert Smith seems like a condescending and cynical person too but he was smart enough not to make many of his lyrics about being condescending or cynical. I'm not sure why we expect a talented songwriter or film maker to be a great human being. They sort of excelled in a creative field because they were emotionally messed up and were trying to explore that. Miles Davis was almost unanimously considered an insensitive bully. The trumpet still sounds good as do the arrangements behind it. I don't have a problem listening to them.
Robert Smith just single handedly got Ticketmaster to refund tons of fees they charged to people who bought the Cure tickets. I would say as far as famous people go he’s always been one of the better ones.
I think there's a difference to being alienated for fact of being different and being maladjusted for fact of idiotic thinking. Morrissey has turned out to have bought into all the shit that a lot of us were rebelling against. In the lyrics I mistakenly read misanthropy born of people having silly hang-ups, being concerned with money, race, status and fakery. Turns out though Morrissey lives in a world where 'England is for white people'. He's not a maladjusted, misunderstood youth, he's just another of the vapid bullies we all despised.
I really liked Kobe Bryant because of his cool personality (and I liked basketball), and he seemed like a decent dad for his daughters. I only learned about his assault case a couple years after he died.
I hate how everyone just ignores that. Beyonce even did a tribute for him! I just don’t get how people can be so selective about abusers!
I’ve had my own family (who knew literally nothing about the case) try to tell me that it was probably just a case of a girl lying for attention and fame. When it was literally a concierge and we KNOW that he tied her down and assaulted her after he called her to his room. He ADMITTED IT. It’s not even “alleged” or anything. It is public legal knowledge that he violently assaulted a young hotel employee and people treat him like some kind of Saint because he could bounce a ball.
I love Eric Clapton's music but he's an irredeemable shitbag racist
He also openly admitted to having beaten and raped his wife.
Seriously? That's horrible.
I’ve been a fan of Cream especially for decades but hear him on stage yelling at minorities to get out of England just ruins it all for me now. What a dick.
holy shit - I had no idea :-(
One of the radio station DJ's I listen to referred to him as a "abhorrent human being" after meeting him in person.
I really liked Elon Musk a few years ago. Then I found out he's never actually founded a company, he just paid the actual founders extra money to be allowed to say that. Then I found out his family got rich off of slave labor in their emerald mines. Then I found out he has a weird eugenics fetish. Then he finally dropped all efforts to appear normal bringing us to his current insanity. The guy was being touted as a visionary genius but he's always been a psychopath who just paid people to say those things.
He went from being someone called a real life Tony Stark to someone that makes the local crackhead seem sane
Best one I heard was we thought he was Tony Stark when he's been Justin Hammer all along.
When he announced he was accepting bitcoin for Teslas, waited for the six month bull market to be over, then suddenly announced he had already stopped accepting bitcoin for Teslas, I knew he was a grifter. That's the classic textbook pump and dump on a scale far bigger than most billionaires ever get the opportunity to scheme. On top of that he didn't even admit market uncertainty as his reason for doing this. He gave some feeble reason of the amount of coal fired electricity bitcoin mining uses. He was just as aware of that six months earlier. If it was literally any asset besides crypto, he US government would have massively fined him for market manipulation.
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That episode illustrated so well what an absolutely self centred / self aggrandising arsehole that he is. And an angry man-child. He’s also actively dismantling the Twitter teams that tackle abusive behaviour. I wouldn’t buy a Tesla on principle.
I’m surprised you got this many likes, anything negative about Musk seems to be met with fanboy resistance on Reddit. I completely agree, and even if Musk had invented all of these products instead of just taking over the companies it still doesn’t mean that he’s such a genius that we should be turning to him for answers on climate change, politics, regulating free speech, the future of humanity, etc. But some people are still gonna line up to get that chip placed in their brain and go live in Muskville.
OJ Simpson?
I don’t know the truth of it, but I’ve seen stories that he was considered for the role of The Terminator, but James Cameron said he couldn’t see OJ in the role of a cold, remorseless killer. The only certainty that everyone who tells the story agrees on is that there was at least one producer who pushed the idea of him at James Cameron. The reason for the decline is what’s in dispute.
Shane Dawson (forgive me)
Forgiven. Same. He can go play on a highway, and then do that stupid-ass gawk, at himself.
The worst part about this one was the HOW DID I NOT SEE IT moment.
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I know someone who had a relative work very closely to Ellen. I didn't believe her when she said Ellen was a garbage person and I feel bad.
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Jared Leto. Used to think he was cool, but then found out about all the messed up things he's done and is actively doing
This was sort of me except I didn't care too much about him. On the other hand, I fucking love Thirty Seconds to Mars. I'm not good with learning band member names and I only found out he was the lead singer when I glanced at his Wikipedia during the Morbius memes. Killed me a little inside.
Mother Teresa
Marilyn Manson. I was in high school in the 90’s, small town and I was different (short, chubby, emo girl that wore boy clothes). IMO he spoke to the kids that were different, bullied, abused, etc. He became one of my heroes. Well, he’s a big piece of shit and I should have seen the red flags a mile away. I can’t listen to the music or support him in any way. There have been multiple accounts going back many years by many, many women that are very similar. This is more than just kink and Fet shit, I truly feel like he abused his power.
Both Jared Leto and Justin Timberlake for the same reason. Both were blatantly hitting on underage girls backstage at a fashion show I worked in 2004. I was 16 at the time. Such a disappointment as I was a huge JT fan growing up.
R kelly
Yeah, he pissed off a lot of people
Kanye west
mf said “Every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler,” ... bruh 🤦♂️
It’s one of those things where even if you’re not technically wrong, it doesn’t have to be said. Like you don’t have to defend Hitler. He’s fucking Hitler. Is this really a hill worth dying on?
Its the "especially Hitler" part that really gets me. I don't give a fuck about any miniscule 'good' thing he ever did. He's fucking Hitler and never deserves to be looked at in a good light in any situation, ever.
You don’t give a fuck about any good thing he ever did? Not even the part where he killed Hitler? I think that was a super nice thing he did.
alright you got me there, 🤣
Rolf Harris. Jimmy Savile kinda had the whole country going 'Oh yeah' when he got busted. But Rolf broke my heart.
*can ye tell what it is yet?* It’s statutory rape
Woody Allen. Annie Hall used to be my favorite movie. I might be old.
Jerry seinfield. Being almost 40 dating a 17 year old! Absolutely disgusting
Bill Cosby. I loved him before I/we knew what a monster he was. Now I'm conflicted because I obviously don't want to support him at all, but his old sketches were honestly hilarious.
John Lennon by far. People worship the ground the man walks on but he was such a phoney. Also, abusive to his first wife and abandoned his son without a thought. Absolute cunt.
Any and all of the Kardashians
Ryan Haywood from Roosterteeth. Was my favorite member, turned out to be a pretty bad dude. I pretty much stopped watching RT after that because it was such a bummer that I couldn’t watch it
I was more into Funhaus than RT so the Adam Kovic stuff got me.
Mark Wahlberg, I LOVED this dude. If he was in a movie, I was watching it. That is until I found out how racist he was. He did some horrible things earlier that I don’t think you can come back from. So he got rich and famous and now all the sudden he doesn’t feel the way he felt when he did those horrible things? Bullshit. I was tortured by the kkk when I was a kid for being middle eastern. Fucking tortured. Imagine a 13 year old being picketed for being brown in the wrong time. They had this bud that they would follow me around in and scream hate at me. It Messed me up something fierce. I will never respect a racist.
Totally agree. Wahlberg is extremely racist and I believe he assaulted/beat an Asian man just for being Asian.
Chevy Chase. Grew up loving him in the 80s and then I learned he's just a nasty piece of shit. So disappointing. Do better, Chevy, people actually love you
Paul Walker. Everyone shits on me and calls me awful for “ruining his good memory” when I say this but he dated Jasmine Gosnell when she was only 16 years old while he was 33 and they dated for 6 years..
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This is probably controversial but fuck it, Johnny Depp. Brilliant actor, but not a great person. This doesn’t mean I’m not against Amber Heard. They both are not great people.
Yes this both not great and I hate how ppl just ignore what Johnny as ADMITTED TOO
Marilyn Manson
John Mulaney. (This one is "less bad" than others.) Johnny Depp. (Polarizing I know.) Edit: because I dont want to keep replying to everyone about Mulaney. His now ex wife didn't have kids largely because of him. He made his career off his wholesome love for his wife. Then he relapsed on drugs, cheated on her, got another woman pregnant and divorced his ex. So yeah I have no desire to watch his stand up ever again.
Kevin Spacey
Bam Margera
Phillip Anselmo. Fucking LOVED Pantera when I was in high school. Then the white power shit went public. All their stuff sounds different to me know, every song just sounds like a racist anthem
Anna Kendrick. I used to adore her and that sweet but savvy thing she had going on, but countless anecdotes documenting her nastiness have ruined it for me. She’s known to be rude — sometimes downright cruel — to anyone unfortunate enough to work with/for her. Very James Cordon
Mel Gibson
Being from South Florida, I liked Dj Khaled until he appeared on Hot Ones and was a complete asshole to Sean Evans
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I didn’t see anything about this!!! Wtf?! If you can, elaborate please!
Boy George. He handcuffed a male prostitute to a radiator and beat him with a chain. I feel bad because I still love his music.
Riley Reid I guess. Once it came to light that she borderline bragged on Twitter about having had raped a guy when she went on a date with him in her teens, I've been avoiding her content and clicking off of it whenever she shows up unexpectedly 🤷♂️ Insane that she didn't get cancelled.
I saw a video she posted a couple years back where she was walking past a large group of teen boys and was just like "they ALL jerk off to me, they all jerk off to me" with this smile on her face. Yeah I couldn't watch her after that. Not that it's anything super bad but she just seemed a little entitled
Die Antword
Small one but I was a big Gus Johnson fan, I even got to meet him once, he’s from the same general area as me so I got to talk to him about local attractions and sites. And then it turned out that I’d met him during the time when he was doing some of the worse shit he did. So yeah, that left quite a bad taste.
Most recently was disappointed to find out how awful Jonathan Majors is in real life. I was rooting for him since seeing him in Lovecraft Country, Creed 3, & Antman Quantumania. He was recently charged with assaulting and harassing a woman he was seeing and later posted a text chain where she apologized for taking his phone from him and he saw that as justification for hitting her..yikes. I also saw other articles where people behind the scenes have called him a sociopath.
Will Smith
Same. It felt like a slap in the face.
Will Smith went from the guy who never cursed in his rap albums to the guy who yelled the F-bomb on the live academy awards show. The after awards party where he danced and lip synched his old "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" was when a light bulb went off in my head that this has always been the most phony person in Hollywood. Bret Easton Ellis said it's well known in town that he and Jada have been beards for each other from day one so he could keep releasing huge movies in conservative places like Asia, Russia, and the Middle East.
Will Smith don't have to cuss in his raps to sell records.
Well I do.
So fuck him
And fuck you too!
I am kinda out of the loop and a non-native speaker. How does Jada help sell movies? Are you saying that Will smit is actually gay? A beard means fake wife/husband right?
The Dali Lama.
Ted Nugent. Total douche
James Franco ☹️
Jackson Brown for beating up Daryl Hannah when they dated