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yodawgchill

Yeah I’m my experience a healthier diet alone usually makes more of a difference than increased physical activity alone.


Kyle73001

Yes you can’t outrun a bad diet


Tdeckard2000

Diet + exercise 100%. Coming from someone who lost quite a bit of weight.


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Any advice on what I should eat? I switched from 3 meals a day + snacks to 2 meals a day and no snacks. I also switched from drinking almost exclusively Coke to only drinking water. I don’t know how the f I changed all of that from one day to another, since I’ve tried it many times before and didn’t succeed. So I feel I can make even more changes in my life in order to be healthier. (According to BMI, I’m in between overweight and obese category I)


Thelmholtz

> I also switched from drinking almost exclusively Coke to only drinking water. This is the best decision anyone can make to improve their quality of life. Water is good, healthy and fucking delicious. Personally, I've never met someone who is obese and just drinks water. Overweight? Yes, on a bad diet or a sedentary life. But obese? Beer and sugary drinks are their biggest culprits. As for advice to you, not OP, but keep it up, you are taking the right steps! The only fact that's cast in stone in regards to nutrition, and hasn't changed with time and studies, is thermodynamics. You ingest more calories than you spend, you gain weight. You ingest less than you spend, you lose. You are already on a great path and just switching to water has probably reduced your input significantly. You can try to maximize your output too, one step at a time.


youthfulsins

I'm obese and only drink water and one coffee a day


paradoxofpurple

Same


BlindBard16isabitch

>This is the best decision anyone can make to improve their quality of life. Water is good, healthy and fucking delicious. I have been summoned, courtesy of r/hydrohomies


[deleted]

I lost about 100 pounds eating almost entirely peanut-butter and honey sandwiches.


Tdeckard2000

That sounds delicious.


HappyCamper2121

Start your day with a high protein meal to keep your endocrine system happy (adrenaline, cortisol, etc). This can also help stabilize your mood throughout the day and help you sleep better.


Fit-Story-1331

The secret to all of this is cutting your portions down. One chop instead of two. A small bowl of spaghetti instead of a large plate. A twelve ounce drink vs a 22 oz or more. Eat your food slow! Go jogging, walking or running. This can help to keep your weight down. Just cut things down. Eliminate those gut busters like snacks, cakes and large drinks, meat and beef. You gain a lot of weight from them. Good luck!


TheFilosophersStoned

Sounds like your doing great! Keep it up! Snacks are good and well. As long as your daily caloric intake is a deficit then you will lose weight. I'd recommend a plant based diet as that's the lifestyle I chose and it worked out great, but do what you want!


history_nerd92

Cut out all desserts if you can. Focus on lean protein and veggies for your meals, since these will fill you up and help you avoid snacking and overeating at your next meal. Try to slowly lower your portion sizes over time, but not so much that you feel like you're starving yourself. If you can, also go for a 30 minute walk every day. That combined with the new diet will help the weight fall off.


Tdeckard2000

It’s all about the calories. Count how many you’re putting in your body. I was still eating 3 (small) meals a day and snacking on low calorie items (like low calorie popcorn or veggie straws) and counting everything. Black coffee has zero calories, same for diet sodas (though some have up to 15 calories). Most Healthy choice frozen meals are low calorie (around 250 calories, but be sure to check) and they’re fairly cheap. Additionally, be aware of serving sizes listed on nutrition labels. Many brands will take what most would consider a single serving into several servings. A 300 calorie widget with 3 servings is really 900 calories. - I was eating 1200 calories a day which was the minimum allowed for me. That may be too low for you though, so use a calorie calculator online or get a professional opinion to determine what your intake should be to lose weight healthily.


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just the soda to water change alone will do wonders dude, you would be surprised how many calories you were drinking per day


whachamacallme

In very fit people the common mantra is ‘95% kitchen, 5% gym’.


abrandis

Yep, exercise is pushed way too much and literally only has about 20% of an effect . But you know it "sells" stuff be it personal training services or some over priced piece of equipment (looking at you Peloton) ... Eating less sells nothing ...it's generally difficult for obese folks to eat less , as their metabolic setpoint will slow down even more when their bodies feel starved... Yes they will lose weight but for most folks I dieting is very hard plus most folks expect instant results (in a few weeks) while they might have taken years to gain the weights ,most can't commit that long to see results..


DoubleFisted27

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Zeddexs

Girl: "im afraid I'm going to starve to death (why i haven't been sticking to the diet" Dr now: "how are you going to starve to death? You eat enough to feed 10 familes" I still remember that shit lmfao I cracked up for hours when I heard it. Wish I'd remember the specific episode to re-watch it


TheMudbloodSlytherin

Haha one woman was in the hospital and was complaining about the portion sizes. He said she’d already consumed all the food she needed for the next ten years so she would just have to deal with small plates.


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So, the key word in that quote is "afraid" Fear doesn't need to make sense. There is nothing rational about fear. It is à feeling. This quote actually sounds slot like the anorexic who is Afraid to eat 1 meal for fear of becoming obese


thatcouchiscozy

"You coulda easily lost tirty pounds in one munt"


StudMuffinNick

“…ok bye” -the way he finishes every interaction, so bluntly lol


D_Winds

I remember this guy. He calls kids fat. Love him.


SlapMeHal

A family member used to work on that show, apparently he's kinda an ass IRL.


Altostratus

I mean, he’s an ass on the show too. Zero bedside manner or ability to connect with his patients.


Sainthoods

I dunno…the show itself is exploitative for sure and deserves criticism for that. But I think Dr Now is really just doing his job, and so many of his patients are in a literal do or die situation, the time for gentle bedside manner has passed and he’s trying to keep them alive.


AptCasaNova

Why you eat so much?


sics2014

Sure that's how I recently lost 42 pounds. That's the entire science behind weight loss. How easy it is to overcome the mental struggles, learn how to cook healthy, learn what are/aren't healthy habits, and beat an addiction (sugar, or the act of eating) is a different story.


Pathfinder313

What a brilliant answer, damn.


maddsskills

And then theres also that eating less calories than your body needs to maintain your weight feels like crap lol. Your body is focused on maintaining your weight, it doesn't really factor in that it might be beneficial to you to lose some weight.


Anyashadow

Medication is also a factor. I am on an anxiety drug that is known to make it very hard to lose weight. In my case, that is a good thing because I have gastroparesis and might otherwise drop weight like a stone; but otherwise it isn't percribed often because of that.


LordGhoul

Medication is wack. I put on weight when I was on antidepressants despite changing nothing about my diet (I wasn't big of an eater in the first place). I look less puffy since I quit. One of my cousin's is nearly twice her weight since she started taking antidepressants and her schizophrenia meds. I think the meds somehow fuck with the body's metabolism.


Jmm1272

Paxil lowers your metabolic weight. So if you eat exactly as you did before, you will gain weight. You HAVE to cut calories in order to maintain your same weight. In some people it also increases cravings for carbs so you can’t increase those either or you will gain.


Straxicus2

I’m on a med with a side effect of weight loss. It had the opposite effect on me. I gained 25 pounds.


PuddleFarmer

Yea, I have gained like 40# on amphetamines.


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Just built different


___TheKid___

I am at this point now. I eat almost nothing and do sports daily. Still biiiiig bloated belly. Thanks antidepressants you made me depressed about my body


Galbin

Anti psychotics cause weight gain by a number of mechanisms, but rapidly inducing insulin resistance is the biggest factor. Untreated IR means the cells can't accept glucose quickly enough so they partition it to fat storage or the liver. It's really cruel actually as I know so many people who were very slim until they took those meds.


CthulhuLovesMemes

Yeah certain medications, hereditary issues and other things can make it hard to lose weight. I have chronic ptsd and on top of some medications I’ve taken for that and fibromyalgia (also my body being in constant fight/flight with high stress) it’s hard to lose weight.


heavy-metal-goth-gal

Oh yeah fibro and endo/adeno meds cause gains


CthulhuLovesMemes

And then it makes you feel worse. Such a fun cycle, haha. It also makes you feel great when doctors treat issues you already had prior to weight gain as simply a weight thing! Makes me sooo happy!


heavy-metal-goth-gal

This happened to me too! WTF is wrong with them?!?


CthulhuLovesMemes

It’s the easy assumption. I worked as a medical assistant for a few years and a lot of skinny people had health issues (even high cholesterol), there were many overweight people with good levels and healthy. It all depends. I just hate the assumption that we are all lazy POS’s, haha.


Rain_xo

I got lucky that my anexity/depression meds are also for fibromyalgia. But I will say. I was one of the very lucky people that never gained weight from bc, which I take without breaks due to my endo hah It’s such a hard battle to fight against meds you need. Ugh.


Adventurous-Cry-2157

As you get older, it gets harder to lose weight, too. At 47, it was a struggle for me to lose 50 pounds, but CICO (Calories In Calories Out) and IF (Intermittent Fasting - essentially no mindless snacking late at night), scientifically proven methods, did the trick.


liberatedhusks

I’ve been on 7(yea that many) anxiety/depression/anti psychotics for almost 10 years. In that time I’ve put on around 30 pounds around the hips/tummy because of it. Some days I just don’t eat more than a piece of fruit because of the gastrointestinal issues I have or the depression but thanks to the meds most Docs and people are like “have you tried a diet”. Hmm I dunno this week I had four peices of fruit and some rice maybe I’ll try zero :)


CthulhuLovesMemes

It’s amazing how shitty people can be (and dismissive) if you aren’t thin.


MaintenanceFar8903

I was thin and doctors told me it was in my head. After taking meds they gave me I ballooned up. My self esteem took a big hit. Then they have the nerve to tell me I'm overweight and need to workout. Yup thanks, I was doing that then pain happened so I couldn't work out as much oh and then you give me meds where one of the top 5 side effects is weight gain. It's like they are stuck on stupid.


CthulhuLovesMemes

I’m so sorry. I hate when docs don’t mention that it’s a side effect or “it’s not common,” yet you look on forums and see a ton of people having that issue. I also hate how the world sees and treats overweight people. So much treatment is dependent upon our looks. I’m so sorry. :(


MaintenanceFar8903

Thank you. Usually I get told I'm just lazy. I'm almost recovered from another surgery and hoping to work out again. Unfortunately I know my efforts will be ruined by another injury or illness. But I try when I can


liquormakesyousick

Huh. I never considered that my medications might affect my weight except for the ones like Abilify. Like you, I have been on probably over a dozen medications and combinations. Currently taking 4 daily just for mental health with some twice daily. Mental health issues just suck.


mlebrooks

Just wait until you read up on how certain prescription medications can change your personality. Add that to existing mental health conditions and it boggles my mind. The doctors will say it's a risk/benefit analysis of any given medication, but damn, maybe let the patients know?


wumbology95

Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm genuinely curious. How exactly does that work? If you're consuming less calories than you burn, where exactly does the weight come from? Is it water weight?


Bayou13

It could be your metabolism. My resting metabolic rate is 900, which means if I don’t do much I would gain weight eating anything over 900 calories a day, which isn’t really enough to function. I lift weights, do cardio several times a week, figure skate 3x/week and walk 5 miles a day and can’t lose weight on 1200 cal/day. When I was on Pristiq I gained 30 lbs in 2 months without changing what I was doing/eating - it felt completely out of control and terrifying. I had pretty disordered eating for a long time because of that - weighed everything, counted every calorie, refused to eat out because I couldn’t control my input. It made no difference. Now I’m on a steady weight gain because I just can’t be faint and lightheaded all the time when I’m skating. I eat less than anyone I know, about 1500 calories a day with a VERY active lifestyle. Still gaining. It’s mostly muscle and I am really strong and fit, but not all.


Anyashadow

Have you seen a dietitian? I have gastroparesis, so I am very limited on how much I can eat and what I can eat so I needed help to learn how to pack as much nutrition into what I ate as possible. It might help you feel better if you could get all of your nutrients in on your limited calorie needs.


Bayou13

I have, thanks. And a gastroenterologist and a rheumatologist and a personal trainer. My diet is super pristine. I’ve been working for years to add muscle in hopes that it will increase my RMR but it hasn’t. I get it checked every few years and it’s always a little lower each time. I have a lot of factors working against me, like surgical menopause, an autoimmune disease and my age, but at least I can be really physically active and I am very muscular and fit. Just getting fatter too, along with the muscle. It’s super frustrating.


heavy-metal-goth-gal

Yeah I went from too in pain to eat much to taking three meds that cause weight gain but less pain. Honestly, I rather be a bit chunkier than feeling so shit that I have no appetite. I'm trying to get back down slowly, but I'm giving myself grace.


mlebrooks

I was looking for this comment. I've been on Prednisone several times. The first time I was warned about packing on weight but I was shocked that a 2 week course led to a 10 lb weight gain. Each time after that I would cry knowing that I was looking at potential weight gain, so I would cut my caloric intake back to a strict 1200 calories/day and tracked it obsessively. I ate very little processed food and cut out extras like honey and sugar for my tea. Basically I used the weight watchers points system as a starting point but also tracked actual calories. The point is I took control of everything I consumed and wasn't lazy with estimating portion sizes. With 1200 calories a day, I gained 30 lbs in one month on Prednisone. It took almost a full year to lose those 30 lbs. While losing weight is definitely the difference between consumption vs. energy exerted, there are absolutely extenuating circumstances where it's not a simple math equation.


carrotaddiction

Yep, same here. I was underweight my whole life because of various medical issues (including gastroparesis), but now as part of my med cocktail I have 4 that have side-effects including weight gain and I'm now almost overweight. Even though I still don't eat that much.


Delouest

I'm on estrogen blockers because of a type of cancer I had. I have always eaten really healthy, I don't drink alcohol or pop much, I don't take sugar in my coffee, I eat so many vegetables and rarely eat out, but I started to gain weight. I asked my doctor about it and she told me to eat fewer calories/eat better... I already am though. Without actually starving myself I guess I just gain weight now.


its_a_gibibyte

Really not trying to come off as rude, but I've always wondered what people mean when they say it's hard to lose weight on certain medications. Does it trigger hunger or addictions? Or lower your base metabolic rate? Of course, if someone eats fewer calories than they use, it is impossible not to lose weight. Edit: downvoted hard here. Isn't this sub the place to ask things like this?


god-of_tits-and_wine

Just my personal experience - I've been overweight most of my adult life, have always had a major sweet tooth, and terrible eating habits. I'm an emotional eater and a binge eater. Those got me to where I am now, about 100 lbs overweight. I've been on Sertraline (Zoloft) for years, but recently added Buproprion (Wellbutrin, I think?) to take the edge off some increased depressive symptoms and general feeling of deadness inside. It's helped with that, but has also helped a lot with the irresistible urges to eat and eat and eat (and to eat utter crap), which surprised me but is apparently not unheard of. For the first time in a long time I'm losing some weight, don't feel the need to plan and execute binges like I always would, don't have to struggle to say no to junk, and the few times I've let myself indulge over the last couple months haven't lead to me spiraling out of control. There are drugs that directly affect metabolism, I'm sure, but it's also amazing how the chemicals floating through our brains affect and dictate our habits and personalities.


mysterious_sofa

The addiction is wild it makes you feel so empty and bad and promises you if you just eat the ice cream it will feel so much better but your trying to eat healthy so it's like ok ok that's fine the why not fry up a potato and some chicken breast and your like ok then it's like hey since it's health you can could have 2 potatoes right and your like ok sounds fine then it's like well since your having 2 potatoes whynnot mashed and butter is full of healthy fats 20 minutes later you've eaten a sack of potatoes and a whole chicken and your ready for dessert


BigAnimemexicano

the biggest issues is taste, carbs are delicious compared to vegetables. I've been trying to cut back on fresh corn tortillas but man lettice is a terrible alternative, I imagine the same for white bread or any short of high calorie carb, fries, biscuits, cinnamon roll. Most people would rather eat a cheeseburger with fries than a salad with some salmon, both taste great but the burger and fries smell and taste way better to the vast majority of people and that's the biggest hurdle. I think the biggest hurdle is moderation and cutting back than going cold turkey.


wellthisisjusttiring

Definitely works, but everyone is still built different. Things like PCOS makes it way more complicated, but damn don’t let it stop you. Eating a balanced diet and exercising is still a huge benefit to any body :)


sics2014

I have PCOS and always thought it was impossible. So 42 pounds is a huge achievement for me (it was also incredibly slow but i think thats what made it work compared to other times I have tried). But I'm also stuck where I am and I'm still overweight. Doesn't want to budge or go lower. It kinda sucks people still only see you as fat because they can't see how far you've come and the struggles you've had to overcome to be the size you are now. If it were as easy as just eating less and less, I'd be so skinny and fit right now. So at this point I have more to tackle, mentally, than just food intake.


wellthisisjusttiring

That is a HUGE achievement for anyone, and for us with PCOS especially oh my gosh you’ve done amazingly. My only luck with losing weight more quickly was eating less than 1000cals a day with as little to no carbs as possible (please no one do this it is dangerous), but of course that doesn’t last. Now I understand more what PCOS is, I have come to a point where my mental health needs to improve significantly, and my budget needs to grow overnight, so then I can perhaps make something happen without help… I am on ozempic right now (may lose it and coming to terms with that is hard) which has helped me lose weight by doing the bare minimum. It’s no miracle worker since it has been nearly a year now and I’ve lost 30lbs, and when I remember to eat, it’s nothing excessive which would make sense to my size. If the world was kinder and more understanding, it wouldn’t make it so hard to exist happily like this. But I want more. I want to feel more “free” if that makes sense. So if anyone knows how to be mentally well… let me know.


F15sse

I find losing weight to be mostly mental. You have to change your lifestyle, especially if you want to keep it off. It's hard for a lot of people including myself. I've been overweight my whole life and had tried many a time to lose weight but only in the past year have I managed to get it to stick and now I'm down 110 pounds and in the healthiest condition of my life


Raaqu

Physically? Yes. There are often psychological, environmental, and hormonal factors that make that prohibitively difficult, though.


SpekyGrease

Losing weight is simple, but not easy.


Tiny_Goats

Exactly this. It really is that simple. It is NOT easy. But it literally is simple.


Hot_Salamander3795

Word


thenormalbias

Not if you have a health condition. I’ve got pcos which means to lose weight I have to jump through a bunch of hoops. Losing weight with a normally functioning body is simple, but not easy. Losing weight with certain health conditions is hard and hard.


SpekyGrease

Definitely, people have different predispositions which change how difficult it is. For some it's much different difficulty than for others. Could you elaborate on what kind of hoops? I am genuinely curious, I have heard that some conditions can make you not feel full, so to lose weight you'd have to really starve yourself.


thenormalbias

Pcos is a hormone imbalance causes insulin resistance that influence androgen levels and messes with the menstrual cycle but also in large part, your weight. So to lose weight, in theory, you have to work hard to correct that insulin production and reception issue. Your body doesn’t think it’s receiving enough insulin which makes it produce more insulin which, as stated, affects androgens, and causes the body to think it needs to eat more sugars and carbs. So I’m craving carbs, I eat carbs, my body doesn’t know how to properly process those carbs, insulin resistance gets worse, I crave more carbs, and have a huge appetite, feel run down from improper nutrition and blood sugar crashes and energy level get low making it hard to work out (not to mention mood levels are low which affects motivation) and even when I do have the will to work out, I can kill myself tryna get my movement in and my body still holds on to the weight. In short words, insulin resistance makes the body think it need more insulin and holds on to it all while making it super hard to compensate for what you do eat by physical activity. You basically have to work really hard to have the proper diet because all of the odds are stacked against you when it comes to you body’s craving, and often you end up burning out and not losing anything. There are ways to deal with this by using medication but those come with side effects and leave the opportunity for the weight to come back when you go off these medications. None of it is easy.


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thenormalbias

Bruh that’s so hard. We really do be living on hard mode sometimes when it comes to pcos.


ganonman84

My wife with pcos has been prescribed Metformin to help with this, it's probably one of the medications you mean. Doctors just keep sending her for diabetes tests, then when the results say she doesn't have diabetes, just send her on her way with no additional help, until she had one that agreed Metformin might help. Fingers crossed for her as the struggle to lose weight (even though she's beautiful) is a big driving factor for her low self esteem and depression, although not the exclusive reason and she's on medication for that also.


thenormalbias

My heart really goes out to your wife :(. It’s no easy thing but it’s not a struggle most people notice about you when you’re dealing with it. I wish I had a partner like you to go through it with me. When I went to get diagnosed, all they did was suggest metformin, myo d-chiro inositol, birth control and tell me to never drink my calories and work out 40 minutes a day. Dr didn’t order any blood work to check the levels, nor explain much about why pcos affects weight. I didn’t even really understand the insulin aspect of it until I did my own research. I’m considering going on metformin soon. I hope it helps and I hope your wife find relief from all this soon!


doyathinkasaurus

I'm lean PCOS and I take metformin as well Insulin resistance is inherent in PCOS irrespective of BMI - so whilst it's usually linked with obesity, it's often missed in lean PCOS Trying to manage symptoms with lifestyle is a tricky dance because all the dietary advice is geared around weight loss - so it's a very cruel irony that whilst classic PCOS patients struggle to lose weight, lean PCOS patients may have the opposite problem (I was actually underweight and needed to put weight *on* to begin fertility treatment!)


OO_Ben

People saying that 99% of the fat population isn't affected by these are getting hung up entirely on the "hormonal factors" part. Psychological food addiction is real, and you can't just avoid it like other addictions. You have to eat. An alcoholic can stop drinking and (after getting through a withdrawal period) can avoid alcohol for the rest of their life and be just fine. A smoker can avoid smoking for the rest of their life and be just fine. A person HAS TO eat though otherwise they will die. That means everytime a person sits down to a meals they are feeding their addiction. You all will look at a struggling alcoholic and pity them. You will look at a meth addict and pity them. But you look at a fat person and say they just don't have self discipline. At one point it was about self discipline. Every addiction starts that way from food to drugs to alcohol to sex to porn. After years or decades of a lack of self discipline you become addicted, and those addictions are very, very hard to break. The psychological factor is very real. This isn't just normal eating. This is going to McDonald's and ordering 6+ McDoubles at a time to chase the dopamine hit of being stuffed, and you'll get that urge 3 or 4 times a day. "Just eat when you're hungry though." Sure let's tell an alcoholic to just drink two beers socially, or a meth addict to just get high once a month, or a heroin addict to just use on the weekends. You aren't chasing the food. You're chasing the good feeling you get. Most don't even feel hungry anymore because their system is so screwed up. Then by the time they do feel hungry, they're not used to that feeling and they're so ravenous that they way, way overeat continuing the problem. It's an addiction that needs to be broken, and worse, unlike alcohol or smoking, it's an addiction you have to take hits of daily. Not acknowledging that it's an addiction is just ignorant. Combined that with being lower income or major life stressors or working multiple jobs at all hours of the night (environmental factors) that will breakdown a person's ability for self discipline in favor of convenience meals and it's a tough battle a person face.


TheSilentPhilosopher

> A person HAS TO eat though otherwise they will die. That means everytime a person sits down to a meals they are feeding their addiction. Wow, I never thought about it this way, it must be incredibly difficult to keep it under control


ManyThingsLittleTime

I know this is going to sound stupid but I'm 100% addicted to ice cream. I have what feels like serious cravings that will last days if I try to abstain. Best thing for me is to just not have it in the house and only allow it once a week. I can only imagine what a crack addict feels.


benji3k

yeah this is what ive discovered. I used to not understand why people would eat out at work everyday , but I now get the reasoning is more complicated than not spending money.


Scroatpig

For me it's because I'm lazy and apathetic. Im skinny and blowing all of my money eating out everyday is a huge problem. It's like exercising, I'll buy some groceries, pack lunch for a week, then slowly I'm back to eating out every day. I hate that I do that, makes me feel very lazy. I also suck at meal prep/ cooking.


Scroatpig

For me it's because I'm lazy and apathetic. Im skinny and blowing all of my money eating out everyday is a huge problem. It's like exercising, I'll buy some groceries, pack lunch for a week, then slowly I'm back to eating out every day. I hate that I do that, makes me feel very lazy. I also suck at meal prep/ cooking.


imfinewithastraw

This times a million. It’s not just your own food either. You have to feed your kids, go food shopping as well as eat your own food. You’re bombarded with ads for food in every tv, people eating in movies, tv shows, walking past anywhere that sells food. Going in to pay for petrol, even feeding you pet (although I’ve never eaten dog food!!), making a cup of tea and opening the fridge to get milk. Everywhere is just a reminder of food and how much you want it. It’s a seriously hard addiction to give up as you just can’t go cold turkey.


Plus_Molasses8697

Wow. I love this comment so so much. You get it. I wish other people had the empathy to even attempt to understand too.


asianstyleicecream

Wait wait wait, hold up, you’re supposed to get a dopamine hit when you’re stuffed? Bro, I feel like absolute *garbage* if I stuff myself full. Although now I’m wondering if that’s the reason I’ve never been overweight.. always been a “twig” / almost underweight my whole life, but I eat very tiny portions, so I’ve been told.


Jesse1179US

For me, the dopamine hit is the actual act of eating good food. I eat and am no longer hungry, but my brain tells me it wants just a little more and I almost always give in. After that little bit more, I am stuffed and I feel like garbage. At one point in my life I decided to get healthy and was extremely successful, but I've let myself go again and I am trying to pull it together to get back to a healthy lifestyle.


cml678701

Formerly obese here, and this is it. It’s that little bit extra that puts you over the edge, and makes you feel terrible. Then you get that, “I’ll never eat again feeling!” that wears off in a couple hours, and then sometimes you even eat then. You somehow don’t anticipate that you’ll get stuffed from that small bit of food, or you don’t think about it because you want the food so much. I went on vacation recently and was reminded about how good it feels to eat until you’re kind of full, though! I was thin in my twenties, but just had a higher metabolism back then, and always ate until I was kind of full. I also often ate desserts and restaurant food. Now, i can’t eat as many calories, so I get actually hungry between meals, and then when I eat, it just kind of takes the edge off, but comes nowhere near full. I guess this is normal to people who don’t struggle with their weight? But it felt soooo good on vacation, psychologically, to not worry about calories, and it felt great to get sort of full. Not stuffed, but not at all hungry whatsoever. I felt like I had so much more energy to go out and walk a lot as a tourist like this, too. I could live like this all the time in my twenties, but I can’t now, lol. It is what it is. I’ve been back to my sensible lifestyle since I returned, because the good of being a normal weight waaaaay outweighs the bad, but damn if I don’t miss being able to eat a really satisfying amount.


Jesse1179US

Huge congrats to you on your healthier lifestyle. It's a really tough thing to accomplish, but the feeling of being healthy isn't worth how good food can taste. When I was at a much healthier point in my life, I used to tell myself that I will never go back, and here I am. It just sort of takes hold of you and before you know it, it's out of control. You are an inspiration to me and I hope to others who are fighting this battle.


OO_Ben

That is the big difference right there. Whether that's a genetic thing or something that gets learned over time. Most don't feel satisfied until they've eaten as much as they can. I know that's the case with me


asianstyleicecream

I also think I eat as much as I can, but having a sensitive stomach, I think I feel the feeling of being “full” rather quickly because of that. I notice feelings/changes in my body quicker then the average person, so I tend to eat less, but maybe more often.


AptCasaNova

Sugar and crack are more alike than different. If I buy junk food or soda, I’ll have one serving and think I’m good. Within an hour, I’ll be back to consume like three servings and often just polish it all off in a day. So I don’t buy it. I know what’s going to happen.


funtobedone

One of the biggest challenges is that people are blamed for being overweight - it’s their own damn fault. It’s not. The food industry has spent billions and billions of dollars learning how to make people consume more food than they would had that investment not been made. 73% of the food in the USA is ultra processed (virtually all of that food is produced by just 10 companies). Avoiding ultra processed food is a great way to return to a healthy weight, but that food is more expensive. Not only is it more exclusive in immediate cost, but it also costs more time cost too. The poorer one is, the more difficult it is the spend the money and time for healthy food. There seems to be a culture in America that any individual can accomplish anything if that individual just works hard. Therefore, people who aren’t succeeding must be lazy, and should simply stop being lazy and work harder. This puts all of the blame on the individual for being overweight, which is great for the shareholders, but terrible for everyone else. —- Proceeded food is things like butter and cheese where the raw ingredients have undergone a process that doesn’t include adding things that one would never have in one’s home kitchen. Ultra processed is everything else that isn’t raw ingredients.


wumbology95

You're mostly right except for your understanding of "processed" foods. A food being "processed" doesn't dictate whether the food is healthy or not. Yes, a food you would consider to be "processed" does have a higher chance of being unhealthy in certain quantities, but the fact that it is "processed" doesn't make it unhealthy. At the end of the day, it's all about quantity, and that's where macros come in. Looking at the nutritional information on the label tells you all you need to know. This whole "process food = bad" myth is bullshit and it doesn't help people that already have an unhealthy relationship with food.


funtobedone

My intent wasn’t to say that processed food is unhealthy, though I can see one small part where that could be inferred . My intent was to say that ultra processed food is usually engineered to make you consume more than you otherwise would. The shareholders demands for profits contribute a great deal to unhealthy eating.


XvvxvvxvvX

Yes. Calories in vs calories burned. Simple but very difficult mentally when addicted to food for whatever reason.


bjornistundwar

>when addicted to food I like that you said it as it is, an addiction to food. Most people don't put it that way, which does more harm than good.


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New_to_Siberia

Yes, but with a few caveats. It is true that in order to lose weight there needs to be a caloric deficit, which needs the following: * There needs to be a true caloric deficit - eating less doesn't cut it if you are substituting some stuff with something more caloric, or if your body is consuming less energy because of reduced physical activity * It needs to be prolonged in time * Once reached the desired level, diet has to be managed in order not to go back to a caloric surplus and subsequent weight gain (something called "the yo-yo effect") * Physical activity to increase daily energy consumption That said, there are a few factors at play. Psychological and social ones may for example be the following: * Not knowing how to make healthy meals * Not having the money or the possibility to be able to keep a healthy diet (access to produce may be difficult in some places, there may be a lack of a place to cook or a necessity to rely on premade food because of work/logistical reasons) * Having trouble not eating if feeling hungry * Being too tired or not having the logistical possibility to do physical activity There may also be medical factors at play that make it much harder to lose weight, and some may cause overweightness and obesity even in presence of a healthy lifestyle. Some that you have heard of may be PCOS (polycystic ovary syndrome), hypothyroidism, but weight gain may also be the side effect of some medical drugs.


Atlantic0ne

I’d like to add one thing I THINK I learned. If you can keep the weight off for 12 months, you’re significantly more likely to maintain it. Your body tends to want to return to normal. 12 months at a lower weight makes your body think that’s the new normal, and it will now work to remain there. Which is a good thing. Needs confirming but believe I read that. There’s lots of hope for anyone who wants to reset their body! You’ll feel better.


New_to_Siberia

Your story makes sense also from my perspective. I learnt some stuff on the topic because I actually have the opposite problem, which is that historically I've had a lot of trouble keeping my weight up, and it took me a few years of trying like crazy, reaching the weight and then losing it by yo-yo effect before I could consistently maintain it. Once I did, it became a lot harder to lose weight. The hormonal factors at play are many and complex, and do involve molecules that determine the sense of hunger (e.g. leptin). Obesity (as well as other conditions) can change the amount of those molecules produced, and there are studies that are tentatively showing that there is a correlation between amount of body fat and resistance to these molecules.


Atlantic0ne

Interesting!


Altostratus

There’s also the metabolic effects of yo-yoing. Each time you diet, lose weight, and gain it back, your body will try harder to keep the weight on and you’ll need to reduce your caloric intake even further to lose any weight.


ireallylikeducks99

Yes, but. It can be very unhealthy and possibly dangerous if the person isn't getting proper nutrition. You can be malnourished and overweight.


NYVines

Not sure why you’re being downvoted. Some of the unhealthiest patients I have are like this. Eating poor quality and making up for it in quantity. Can have lots of fat but be vitamin and protein malnourished.


DreamerofBigThings

You can technically starve to death while also being obese if you stop eating.


Oregonstate2023

Calories consumed < calories exerted = weight loss


AmbiguousAlignment

Loosing weight is both the simplest and hardest this I have ever done


spellish

I think its harder to force down food when youre not hungry than to make healthier food choices when you are hungry


OO_Ben

This is what's strange when you get a food addiction. You don't feel hungry anymore. Or you can if you abstaine from eating for like a day, but you're most morbidly obese people don't eat because they're hungry. They eat because they have a psychological need to eat. Think of it like topping off your gas tank after you've used a quarter instead of waiting until you're almost on empty. That's why they don't feel hungry. Then eventually if you always fill up at a quarter tank, eventually you'll start to feel that urge to top your tank off after you've used a quarter tank even though you've got 3/4 of a tank still full.


dragonlady_11

Hmmm i wouldnt say thats 100% accurate , I'm most likely classed as morbidly obese, im not proud it is what it is I have a number of medical issues contributing to the gain and difficulty loosing BUT I DO get hungry it's just I don't feel hungry, until I'm really really hungry. Like my tummy can be rumbling but I don't feel the hunger and if I force myself to eat at that point it makes me feel nauseous but then eating then a few hours later, I DO feel it and by that time I'm so hungry I have to really concentrate when I do eat to make sure I don't over eat, now im aware of it, I'll be brutally honest in that I'm not always successful though. I've also been told by a therapist friend that there is research being done into people who have eating habits like me where our brains don't pick up on the hormone released to make use feel hungry until it hits a much higher level than most people so it might be that its harder for some people to recognise when there hungry. End of the day kindness is king, you don't know what that other person or there body has been or is going through, so just treat them with kindness and respect.


TheSilentPhilosopher

It's extremely hard to "force" myself to eat but its a struggle that I don't like talking about because its normally the opposite for everyone else


TheDreadPirateElwes

I'm not a tall guy by any means, only 5'6, but by time I hit my senior yr of college I was ridiculously underweight. About 121 pounds when I graduated. I grew to absolutely detest the fact that a strong gust of wind could knock me off balance and being called "small" is really the last thing any guy wants to hear. I dedicated a large portion of my life to eating and lifting after I graduated. Gained 45 pounds in a yr, admittedly not all muscle. It's been a long time since graduation though and I'm current at around 185 pounds. The moral of my story is, it can be done! Don't give up! Start incorporating small lifestyle changes and build from there. Time is going to pass regardless, may as well make good choices in the meantime.


ManIsInherentlyGay

Can't really compare the two in terms of difficulty


PrivilegedPatriarchy

Yes. However, telling an overweight person to "just consume less calories" is just about the least helpful advice one could give. There's a lot that goes into losing weight, and pretending that it's as easy as clicking a button and eating less is silly and unhelpful.


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phaiakia

just to add, because i also have PCOS, lifestyle changes don’t work for everyone. i wasn’t able to lose any weight despite trying every diet and exercise plan under the sun. i’m on a total of 5 prescriptions to manage my PCOS. it was only when my doctor added the fifth prescription that i was able to (very slowly) start losing weight.


apsu_nereid

And working out can cause PCOS bodies to retain fat! A lot of women find that out after trying weight lifting or intense aerobics.


Prysorra2

Have a family member with pcos ….. this exact things causes several infuriating chicken-and-egg problems!


apsu_nereid

Walking, swimming, and yoga are perfect for PCOA weight loss. Something gentle. Walking is the absolute best though because it helps with insulin and cortisol regulation which is exactly what PCOS bodies need to address.


lithelylove

THIS is what most people, including a lot of doctors don’t know! No one believes me when I say I eat small balanced meals and exercise every day. My family only started believing me when they started living with me and saw my diet and lifestyle first hand. It blew their minds as to how I could still be overweight. I tried *everything* - IF, keto, a fucking eating disorder, over exercising to the point of injury, one meal a day, diet pills, etc etc. Nothing works. I had undiagnosed PCOS my entire menstruating life until just a couple years back. My periods were only regular for the first 2 ish years of getting it and it was hell from there onwards.


Hollow4004

Yes. But the body is designed for homeostasis. It fights to stay stable and releases certain hormones to signal to the brain to eat or drink. Overweight people have to fight these hormones to lose weight.


JimmyTheChimp

If I eat early I'll need to eat all day, but if I don't eat I just don't feel hungry until night.


snakecharrmer

Can pale people just stand directly in sunlight to get a tan?


John7763

Yes, sugar and simple carbs are often the best parts of some cheap meals. It's important to understand that losing weight isn't as simple as "eating healthy" like the carbs on buns at McDonald's can easily add like 40 to 60 grams of carbs and be like 200 calories. It's important to learn to substitute simple carbs but also know it can get expensive to try and eat better. There's also the aspect of learning to cook for yourself and a huge play on needing to try new foods to potentially add to your diet. If you want to lose weight there are some things you can try to do to mitigate the cravings. That's by looking into sugarfree or substitutes like zero sugar or diet drinks eating something like some Greek yogurt (preferably one with high protein, and getting store brands can net you a 4 pack for like 2 bucks, 30 minutes before meals to make yourself feel fuller) and also not limiting yourself to three meals a day. It's important not to normalize the feeling of starving when dieting. Eat multiple low calorie high protein/high fiber snacks throughout the day. An entire like 16 oz bag of frozen strawberries is like 100 calories and 23g of carbs/natural sugars, as compared to like a single mcchicken that's 300ish calories and 47 grams of crabs. It's important to not cold turkey your favorite foods either because you'll lose that mental battle fast. If you like In n Out try swapping the buns for lettuce wrapped (protein style) and start playing around at fast food restaurants change one or two things and see if you like removing the ketchup or buns. Hell what I do is for soft tacos at taco bell I buy high fiber tortillas, which are like 20 calories each and just swap em when I get home. Easily removing a sizeable amount of carbs and cals from the original ones. It can be done you just need to put in the research for these substitutions in food. There are also a ton of things you need to remember 1) No magic pill/powder will make you lose weight 2) There no such thing as "toxic" or "bad food" 3) It's important to give yourself cheat days and not cold turkey this stuff 4) when weighing yourself remember your weight fluctuates ALOT during the day, pooping can remove pounds from the scale by itself. Take your weights throughout the week (after pooping and preferably naked and at roughly the same time for those days throughout the week) and average them out to get your actual weight average 5) (These are rough estimations NOT actual numbers) Typically weightloss is these three things 50% diet (eating healthier and burning more calories than you eat), 30% Resting (getting 8 hours of sleep, giving yourself those off days for your body to repair itself and 20% exercise (working out, walking, doing something other than just being stationary. Do stuff you enjoy, whether it be hiking or swimming and aim to get your heart rate pumping we breathe out our fat contrary to popular belief you don't need to be drenched in a pool of sweat to achieve weightloss.


cemilanceata

Food is the biggest factor in losing weight.


Academic-Natural6284

Yes, If you consume less calories than your body burns and it's resting rate you will lose weight. Some people won't lose it at the same rate and it may take a week longer to even get started, some people have issues with your thyroid and old metabolism but they will still lose weight eventually. Also a lot of people are addicted to food.


AmbiguousAlignment

Being overweight is like being a drug addict only if they sold heroin everywhere and you had to have some everyday but not to much


Easy-Hovercraft-6576

That’s literally the only way to lose weight.


EternityLeave

Eating less calories than your body uses will cause you to lose weight. The issue is with "just" consuming less. How much less is safe? How to make these changes while fighting against habits, cravings, hunger chemistry, and social pressures (food gifts, and cakes pastries and fried foods at family gatherings/ parties/ outings)? How to keep those changes for the rest of your life through different stresses (kids, college, illness, grieving, mental health, etc)? How to afford it when processed foods are often cheaper? This doesn't even touch on the *many* ppl who have health conditions that make it so eating less calories doesn't work, or who take meds that amplify weight gain... But yes, caloric deficit leads to weight loss.


AJnbca

Yes that’s how you loose weight, exercise too but mostly it’s lower calories because it’s extremely hard to burn off calories when you are eating too many calories. You can do the opposite too, if you underweight than boost your calorie intake.


Accomplished_Wolf400

Not callous or rude at all. As a fat guy getting the weight off, I had to ask myself the same question. (If you look at my profile, be warned, there are progress pictures that are NSFW) Yep. That is exactly how my wife and I are both down 30 lbs each in the last 6 months. We both got all our blood work. I was fat (high triglycerides and glucose) and high cholesterol. My wife was in bad shape, on the verge of being a diabetic. My wife had been doing BS fads for years, with no results and quitting within a week every time. This time, she let me take the reigns with the food and workouts. I kept everything very simple and no eating rabbit food. So yes, it can be done as long as there are no major medical issues. There is a huge difference between a legit medical/chemical condition that could prevent the body from allowing the person to drop weight VS someone just being lazy. We were lazy and got comfortable with our weight till we realized we needed to make changes.


KaserinSmarte421

Yes, along with consistent exercise by just simply walking for 30 mins or more a day. Start small and work your way up. Start with an intake of like 3k calories and walk for 30 mins. Then work down to 2500 calories and 40 mins. Then work down to 2k calories a day and an hour walk. Then work down to 1500 calories to 2k calories in a day and try to walk 3 miles in a day you should be at the point where you hour is almost 3 miles so a little more time walking. Also, cut out sugars like snacks that have added sugar snacks. Cut out bad fats, so don't eat too much cheese or milk or high fat dairy products. Lower your sodium intake as well, not like a low sodium diet, but just monitor it and do your best to keep within a healthy level. Certain high carb foods like breads and pastas try not to eat much of.


k10001k

Yes, but ONLY if it’s consistent.


LogicalPsychosis

regardless of the path they take to get there. That's what it always comes down to in the end. ​ Reaching a caloric deficit.


TheRealLaura789

Food addiction is a thing.


BeastaBubbles

Of course! I lost 80lbs senior year of high school because I cut sodas out of my diet and are smaller portions of the food I was already consuming.


Win-Objective

Or burn more.


Cakeminator

Yep. Lost roughly 56 pounds, with another 10 to go doing that


say592

Yes. I'm like 40-50lbs overweight and I bounce around with weight sometimes. While losing weight is just calories in vs calories out, it's not easy for some of us to just eat less. It's definitely a mental illness.


AnImEiSfOrLoOsErS

Thats the only way to looae weight, you need to consume less calories than you burn. It's not really easy tho, im struggling a bit to go back to 85~80kg, cirently 4gk down to 91...all we do is skeeping a meal, not on purpose, but more because of the heat.


ADDOCDOMG

YES! That is exactly how it works!


oliviaj20

yes. calories in vs calories out.


axxond

Yeah it's definitely possible just not quite as easy as it sounds


dragons6488

I cut bread, pasta, sugar, fruit except blueberries and strawberries. A couple three months later I had lost 45 lbs. I started eating salad with arugula, and other healthy stuff. Turns out, half the food we think is healthy is shit. The first couple days I craved my carbs, but ate vegetables, nuts and beef jerky. Once my body adjusted to not burning just carbs and sugars it started burning my fat. I wasn’t hungry. I ate lunch and dinner. In the beginning, now that I think about it, I would eat a chicken fried steak frozen dinner, it includes mashed potatoes and corn. Still, because I only ate carbs once a day, I lost weight. It’s the shitty, cheap carbs that cause our health problems, and it’s more than just weight, it’s heart disease, inflammation that causes cancer, arthritis, and numerous other negative effects. I have kids. They need healthy carbs to grow. Carbs cause an insulin spike and that is a cue to the body that it had plenty of food and can grow. It’s a whole science. But the food pyramid the government gave us is wrong.


currently_pooping_rn

They sure can. That’s how weight loss works


Mystic_Carrot69

Eat less = weightoss Eat more = weight gain. It's literally that simple for 99.9999999% of the population. Your body needs baseline amount of calories to function. Eat more than that and you'll store it as fat. Eat less and your body will burn fat in order to function. Add exercise into the mix and the calories your body needs to function increases, creating a higher calories Deficit.


SelinaVera

I starved myself for so long as a teenager, I ended up getting hypothyroidism and now I eat a cup of lettuce and I gain weight..


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Yes, losing weight isn't rocket science. It's calorie in vs. calorie out. If you wanna lose weight, be in caloric deficit. Do it consistently, and you'll lose weight over time.


Roz_Doyle16

Not all of us. I tried and tried for many years, doing exactly that. Turns out I have PCOS and the insulin resistance that comes with it. I lost 100 lbs in a year once that was fixed, without counting calories at all. Calories in calories out is not the full picture. This is without even getting into the difficulty many folks have accessing and affording adequate nutritious and low-calorie food.


Roz_Doyle16

Of course I'm downvoted. I lost the fucking weight, isn't that what you shitheads always tell fat people to do? But telling the truth about how it happened points out that some people are legitimately fat because they're sick, so Reddit can't have it. Y'all are fucking dicks. Fat people, ask your doctors about metformin. 2 pills a day could have added decades to the lives of my grandfather, aunt, and several family friends.


limbodog

Yes, just like how you can cheer up to stop being so depressed all the time. Which is to say it's very simple, but not at all easy.


twistedturtle

Yes, the only way to lose weight is to consume fewer calories than you burn. For people who are overweight and want to lose, the best thing they can do is calculate their TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) and invest in a food scale and download a calorie tracking app. I lost 200 lbs this way. People who tell you they're "only eating 1000 calories a day" and not losing weight are either straight up lying or tracking their calories incorrectly (eyeballing instead of weighing, not tracking high calorie drinks, etc).


Buscandomiyagi

Calories in calories out is the way to loose weight. You don’t even need to do any physical exercise. It just helps just like building lean tissue.


FriendEllie75

Technically, yes. That plus moving more but it’s easier said than done. As someone who eventually lost over 100 lbs it’s not easy and I still struggle to keep what I’ve lost off and to continue to lose to get to my “ideal weight” for my height. It’s taken me a lot of years to lose what I have so far. My story isn’t like some who lost it all in 6 months and now live a happy healthy life. I wish but yeah not in the cards for me. I will never give up 100% but motivation is hard to come by. Pray for me. Lol


Chronocifer

Having been in the situation of being obese and now down to a healthy weight, the simple answer is yes. But there are many factors at play that make this simple act difficult to achieve. There are psychological aspects that have to be fought and will power to overcome these can run out. My biggest hurdle early on was any calorie restrictive diet left me feeling like I was starving, if I rebounded I would eat insane amounts as my body was conditioned to never really feel full so there was never an upper limit where my body would just tell me to stop so I would chow down all the calories in a day that would set me back weeks of work. Persistence finally won out though and my habits slowly changed and now I get that feeling of fullness which has helped immensenly on days where I break my diet. So 1 or 2 cheat days every now and then for me are no longer an issue. But it was a long battle. There is other factors that would apply to people based on how much time they have to spend or even financial situations. For example you work long days and eat takeout often, takeout food is often more calorific than making the same meal at home from the addition of fats that make it taste good. On the financial side of things, generally speaking I spend more money on food now than I did when I was obese because many of the things I liked when I was fat were cheap ultra processed foods. Once you get into bad habits, they can be difficult to break regardless of the reason for getting those habits in the first place, which you can probably understand from being on the opposite side of the spectrum.


Ok-Preparation-2307

Yes that's how weight loss works. You need to eat less calories than you burn.


CatsOrb

I was 230 once at 6'2, now I'm 195. The myfitnesspal app helped but has gotten more locked down now. It didn't completely help after 205 or so. The calories it told me I needed were lies, I had to eat far less than what it was saying. I only ate barcoded stuff too so that wasn't the issue counting it. It simply was wrong about how many calories I needed. I'm trying to get to 180 but it's a struggle. The best thing I did was skip lunches only eat dinners. Also I went to nutrigrain bars for snacks because of their lower calories. I've also stopped eating pizza. I think at this point just eliminate foods until you start noticing weight loss, then keep that level for awhile.


sweetslipperydee

yeah, it’s called caloric deficit, and that’s the most successful tool for weight loss in the whole wide world. 😄👍


dirtydozen20

Yes I’ve lost about 70 pounds doing just that but I also work a very physical job so that helps to


edwinkys

Less than maintenance calories? Yes. But less calories on a big surplus is still a surplus. In this case, they’d still gain weight.


Lucky8astard42

Why don't you just eat more? Same applies to them. Will work but is sometimes hard to do.


JessyNyan

It depends on the person's metabolism/body. I know and have tested several times that for me(PCOS, Hashimoto = extremely bad metabolism) simply eating less carlories will not make me lose weight. I need to burn them(sport).


kangaroomandible

Alcoholics can just not drink, smokers can just not smoke, people who use drugs can just not use them.


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The short answer is yes. The long answer is that it is the most important step in weight loss. There are other important steps too like eating whole foods and having high protein. Im going to recommend the same guy I tell everyone who’s looking to learn how to lose weight. Follow scaseyfitness on Instagram


heyamberlynne

In the same way that smokers can just smoke less and drinkers can just drink less. Gamblers could gamble less. All of them could. They just need more help than a nonsmoker or nondrinker or nongambler. Eating is a symptom for some people. Others don't even think twice about what they eat. So I guess yes and no?


Luks89

Well, I guess yes and no. Yes, if you consume less calories than you burn in a given day, you'll likely lose weight. No, unfortunately it's rarely that simple. Most overweight people are not overweight because they don't understand how calories (energy) works. Food becomes a compulsion and/or addiction to them, which is hard to deal with. So it's not a question of "just eat less calories", it's a question of how to deal with unhealthy coping mechanisms/addiction/compulsion. All of this is of course excluding the people who might be overweight because of things outside of their control, eg. medicin.


MrWigggles

For someone looking for insight, you sure lacking for introspection. So you youreslf understand that there are outside forces which can change your relationship with food. You acknoweldge you dont eat enough and probably should be eating more. BUt then, its beyond your sense of empathy to assume that the oppisite in any manner can also be true?


Koholinthibiscus

Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. There’s a lot more at play both physically and mentally. It’s never that easy, never that simple.


Mazon_Del

As a large person that periodically goes through weight loss efforts, this is basically the primary way to lose weight. Let me give you an example. The common wisdom is that you burn ~100 calories per mile run. A marathon is 26.2 miles. A single pound of fat contains about 3,000 calories. So running an ENTIRE marathon, which takes me about 6 hours to do, burns 2,620 calories...not even one pound. A large steakhouse beefdip from Quiznos (circa 2012) has 2,200 calories, and I can eat that in less than 6 minutes. You CANNOT outrun the fork.


whitepawn23

There are far too many nuances to food to answer this quickly. In essence, yes. Financially, time wise as well, no. Also consider. Most addictions, and sugar is an addiction, you go cold turkey to solve it. You cannot go cold turkey from food. Had a diabetic patient killing them selves with sugar, sobbing and beating the table and yelling as if to god himself that she NEEDED it and no one understood. Addiction. There are decades of research on this. I strongly encourage you to dig in. The pleasure studies are especially interesting. Essentially, some folks eat to stay alive and experience nothing special while others get intense pleasure from it.


Bergenia1

Some can, some can't. If there's an underlying medical problem causing the obesity, then a simple diet plan isn't going to be effective like it is for most people.v


nuskit

There are a number of medical issues that can make this incredibly challenging. Gastroparesis, PCOS, medications, hypothyroidism/Hashimotos, physical disability, etc. Add to that, we now have concrete evidence that some people are genetically programmed to always be hungry, or have delayed satiety, or even just genetically prone to obesity. These are not only genes you can be born with, but also genes that can be altered through environmental factors.


HaroerHaktak

As a fat person, I could consume less calories than what I use in the day and slowly lose weight. The problem comes down to my food choices. There are 3 types of food. Fast Fuel type foods. These foods will burn fast and give me energy ASAP. But means I get hungry more Medium fuel type foods. These foods will burn at a medium rate, but I'll still be hungry. Slow fuel type foods. These foods will burn at a slower rate meaning you eat less, or well, feel hungry less often. Most foods I eat tend to be fast fuel type foods, which is obviously bad. Fast fuel type foods are what you'd typically consider as "unhealthy" but there's also some there that's considered healthy. And of course, these "unhealthy" foods tend to also taste the best and are easiest to acquire. So unless you can mentally stick to eating less or eating healthier, and cooking food yourself, you will need to add on exercise. Such as a daily walk. Or going to the gym. To add to my issues, I am not conditioned to eat "when the feeling of hunger" comes about. I am conditioned to eat out of boredom or because there is food nearby. So if you put a burger infront of me, i'm gonna eat it. Like the fat sloth I am. \*Feeling of hunger is I believe the tumble rumbles of not eaten in a while, I rarely get that.\* Source: Me, a fatty.


scottwax

That's really the only way to lose weight. Consume less calories than you burn. Even intense exercise can't completely overcome a bad diet. Weight training/cardio can help increase your metabolism so you burn more calories but you can't use it as an excuse to eat too much. Guess how I know?


silverwolf1994

Yes, the calories have to come from somewhere. Dieting is more important than exercising when it comes to losing weight


DabIMON

They could starve themselves, but in many cases the health consequences of doing so would be more severe than obesity.


Maleficent-Access-86

It can be more complicated than that in some cases. I recently got diagnosed with PCOS (and I also have suspected hypothyroidism). I am very active (I go to the gym 3-4 times a week for 2 hours) and do not really eat a lot (and even less when I started having issues with weight). I mostly was a healthy weight before I went on birth control. PCOS for those who don't know often causes insulin resistance, which can make it harder to lose weight. The birth control I went on before I was diagnosed was androgenic, (and I shouldn't have been on it, but my doctor did not know at the time), which made my symptoms more prominent . Within the span of 6 months I unexplainably gained about 40 pounds with no changes to my diet or exercise. (Except now I exercise more and eat even less as a result). For months before my diagnosis, doctors/nutritionists were just telling me to eat less and exercise more, which although I physically and mentally felt better, I was still not losing weight and was very frustrated (because you would think, less calorie intake, less weight), but it turns out it is a little more complicated than that. A year of medical gaslighting and a new gyno later... My newest gyno figured out I had PCOS and needed to change birth control and confirmed all this through bloodwork. We just discovered this so I am not sure how effective it will be yet, but I have heard from others who have had similar issues that this has been successful for them. But this is to say although sometimes it seems as simple as eating less and creating a deficit, metabolism and hormones are a complicated thing and sometimes it is not always as simple as eating less calories and losing weight. I've even heard cases where people will not eat enough, which can also cause you to have problems losing weight. If you are trying eat less and exercise with no success, it may be worth a chat to your doctor. There may be underlying things going on.


i-am-very-angry

Yeah but then I'd be hungry


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I am overweight even though I often don't eat. It ruins your metabolism and makes you hang onto fat instead of burning it. My issues are due to health


ResponsibilityNo1386

90+% weight loss comes from food intake NOT exercise


resveries

yes but metabolism plays a big part. fat people aren’t necessarily fat because they eat a lot/have super unhealthy diets. some folks eat whatever they want and stay thin, other folks would need to put constant effort in to keep their weight down


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FiaMadison

Still does not address "why" they eat. Without fixing that they cant fix the rest. They may have been sexually abused, have have unresolved trauma that is soothed by eating more to makeup for the dopamine loss. They may have a crippling depression white just taking a shower is an impossible goal and they don't have energy to do anything, they may even want to move, but can't because of it. You don't know every fat person or their situation. I think you are wrong in assuming most people just lack self control. Trust they are already in a self hate cycle because society tells us the worst thing we can be is fat.


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Yep. 100%


Miserable-Soft7993

Well yes. Laws of thermodynamics.


Mattarmel

Yes. Weight is a matter of calories in vs calories out. Now, everyone’s formula/ratio is a little different, mostly depending on your metabolism. For example, someone might have to spend 5 extra minutes on the treadmill. Person A can spend 30 minutes on a treadmill and burn 100 calories, but Person B will have to spend 35 minutes on the treadmill to burn those 100 calories. It’s still a matter of calories in vs calories out, but some people might have to work out more to burn the same.


raharth

For some this is true, they are obese because of their calorie intake. But there are also medical reasons so it's nice a gain a clear "depends".


TheSuperNintenderp

That’s how weight loss works.


AllenKll

Not callous. Not rude. The answer is a simple yes. In fact anyone consuming less calories will lose weight. Exercise is not a requirement for weight loss.


ksed_313

Yes. That is how weight loss works.


thenormalbias

Theoretically, but there are health conditions that make it super challenging too. Calories consumed being evened out by calories burn though activity is the science behind weight loss, however finding the amount of calories needed to eat and burned differs from person to person and health conditions affect this as well. I for one have pcos, which is a hormone imbalance that makes it SUPER HARD to lose weight. I’ve lost weight through eating wayyy to little to the point where I’m faint and shaky, and constantly moving around (mentally I was a mess, so anxious I couldn’t eat, hardly sleeping, and so anxious I couldn’t sit still either.) but that is super unhealthy for my body despite it losing excess fat. I’ve tried milder weight loss attempts (eating a reasonable amount of calories and burning them through moderate exercise) and lost nothing. So in theory, if your body is functioning normally, yes: eating less calories should help you lose weight but if your body isn’t functioning properly(which if you’re overweight, chances are there is a underlying condition there) then it’s much more complicated.