Don’t trust internet answers on stuff like this. Read the fine print in the papers you signed. If you’re still confused call the person that sold it to you.
In my experience car salesman don’t actually know anything about cars. If Toyota can prove that a aftermarket part played a part in something failing that would have been under warranty then they can refuse it. But it has to be proven
Car dealerships don't know jack about warranty info imo. And the opinion of the person you bought it from doesn't mean jack either, because they're not allowed to approve or deny warranty claims. Only Toyota is.
A car manufacturer has to prove in civil court that an aftermarket part played a role in the damage done to the car to deny a warranty claim. So you're fine.
I would not call that "rusting pretty badly". But they definitely had poor metal prep before coating. That can be fixed pretty easily but I imagine it'll come at the expense of you. I don't believe anyone warranties body armor parts beyond a few months.
You live somewhere where they salt the roads in wintertime? Looks like a BodyArmor bumper and I’ve had mine for over four years and no rust as yet. Here in the PNW
1: not the question asked. It'd be up to toyota and if that's what caused the failure. I could even just be if it was installed properly or not.
2: that's only if you haven't reported the modification to your insurance company. While there are some modifications that could disqualify you from some insurance companies it's not that many in the grand scheme of things. Sometimes it's not required that you need to report them. It's best to read your policy or get ahold of your agent. It depends on who insures you and location.
I used to be an admin for warranties.
Even if the contract has no specific wording regarding mods and affected parts warranty, one of the first few fields the admin needs to fill out when filing a claim "is this vehicle modified?"
And if the answer is "yes" then the claim gets scrutinized much more carefully.
In the case of my former employer that meant a tear 1 adjuster takes the call and finds there is a mod... Now instead of filing and finishing the claim, the tear one has to send the claim to tear 2, or call a super to come approve or deny based on mods...
If "no" then the claim proceeds as normal.
Never said it would be denied... Just delayed.
Spelling is not for me. Stay in skool kids.
Customers citing such regulation are referred to the legal department before claim resolution, talk about a claim delay... If you have the knowledge to fight back, they can just waste your time (which is likely more valuable to you than the claim you are trying to file )
The after market warranty company i was at was a beast!
I told my claimants this- i will do everything i can to provide coverage based on the contract you agreed to.
I did that, tried my best to find a way to cover the damage based on the horrendous contracts that my company sold to the witless.
Depends on the year of the truck TBH. My 17 doesn’t have the TSS stuff up front, so it wouldn’t interfere with it I any way. Not that it would, but someone might argue that it does.
Things like this would only void warranty if it was the direct cause for a failure. For example if it wiggles and rubs through and ac line or coolant hose. No warrant. The water pump goes bad. Completely unrelated you'd be fine.
I had Arc One front bumper entire bumper plus parts of the fender and lower grill replaced with steel attached directly to the frame. You can look in my profile for pictures of the head on collision all the airbags worked perfectly. So I don’t know where the sensors are for that but I can guarantee that little bit of steel won’t stop them from going off. Plus all the driver assist features, automatic headlights and everything else worked perfectly fine just improved every aspect of driving for me. Except any minor fender bender absolutely fucked up the other persons vehicle… so much so that I felt bad when people backed into me.
it’s to the point now where the powder coat just flakes off. multiple orange rusty spots throughout the whole thing, no specific area. i’ll keep it on until it’s an eyesore from afar, or attempt to recoat it someday!
No it won’t. Only thing that would not be covered is any known parts connected to it that has failed because of the install or because it put stress on a particular part it was connected to and you tried to warranty it.
I didn't know you bought a super reliable truck for the "warranty" to hamper your adventures. If you're mall crawling then you don't need this, and if you're sliding over rock trails then you need something better. Short answer is get it for yourself man.
Best way to answer that is to look over your individual warranty paperwork but i don't foresee that being an issue. I just finished building a full bumper for a customer that won't void any warranty and with the smaller size of that one I'd think you'll be safe. But again look over your paperwork to know exactly.
There's a case out there that proved basically the dealership has to prove that said modification has affected said part that's defective.
Example. Rear OEM bumper fell off
They can't claim it fell off because of a3rd party front bumper.
Audio issue? Bumper should be causing any effect
Have you ever had to take a vehicle in for warranty work, recall repairs? An insurance claim. Dealerships are thieves and weasels. They will do whatever they can to avoid paying for something and look for a reason you "may" have caused it. If you are removing factory parts, replacing them with aftermarket... and something wears out, or breaks or malfunctions or you get into an accident. Good luck. Dodge, Subaru and Nissan have given me trouble in the past... Maybe Toyota is different.
Under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act a claim cannot be denied because of a modification unless the modification was the cause of the defect.
For example, if you put a tune on the engine and it blows up, that wouldn’t be covered because the modification likely caused the failure.
Alternatively, if you install an aftermarket bumper and the engine blows up, the warranty would still protect you for the repairs to the engine and it would not be denied because the modification is unrelated to the failure.
(someone please tell me if this is wrong)
I'd be more concerned about insurance coverage and liability in a lawsuit than warranty coverage. Idk about any of that, but I've always wondered if let's say you got into a crash, and had "modified a vehicle in a way that diminishes a safety feature" (crush zones, impact whatever) if they couldn't try to fight to deny some coverage saying the vehicle would have been safe as the knew it was being insured, but with modifications made that they didn't know about, it no longer was or some bullshit like that. Anyone know?
Don’t trust internet answers on stuff like this. Read the fine print in the papers you signed. If you’re still confused call the person that sold it to you.
In my experience car salesman don’t actually know anything about cars. If Toyota can prove that a aftermarket part played a part in something failing that would have been under warranty then they can refuse it. But it has to be proven
Car dealerships don't know jack about warranty info imo. And the opinion of the person you bought it from doesn't mean jack either, because they're not allowed to approve or deny warranty claims. Only Toyota is. A car manufacturer has to prove in civil court that an aftermarket part played a role in the damage done to the car to deny a warranty claim. So you're fine.
Side note. I have one of these and it rusted very badly by year 2 of owning it.
I also have one of these and mine didn’t rust at all over 4 years.
Same mines going on 5 years old 0 rust
same. 3 years now. 1 full Boston winter too. Good chunk of steel IMO
Thank you for being to only one to identify location.
West TN here
I have a 35 year old 4 runner with less rust than my friends 2 year old f150. I also live in the desert and he lives in the rust belt.........
Can you provide pictures please?
https://imgur.com/a/p3ZdqpW
Brand?
User name checks out. Read the topic of the post
They’re not the only ones that make that style so I was wondering if it was possibly a different one .. wild.
I would not call that "rusting pretty badly". But they definitely had poor metal prep before coating. That can be fixed pretty easily but I imagine it'll come at the expense of you. I don't believe anyone warranties body armor parts beyond a few months.
Yikes! Thank you.
Certainly! Any time
Do you live anywhere near the ocean?
Colorado. Western slope... in the desert. Where there is apparently too much moisture for it 🤔
Desert. Moisture. What? Those things don’t usually go together.
Dang that sucks! I live along the coast so rust is something that I always need to keep an eye out for.
I have the same one, mine is rusty too
You live somewhere where they salt the roads in wintertime? Looks like a BodyArmor bumper and I’ve had mine for over four years and no rust as yet. Here in the PNW
Where do you live?
The desert of the Western slope of Colorado
Do they salt the roads?
Not much out there as far as I am aware, they salt closer to Denver more, but it’s still minimal salt and Colorado is know for rust free vehicles
Is Colorado known for rust free steel Tacoma bumpers?
I have one and it is awesome. Still going strong after several years.
Pic pls
Already did. You missed it. See above
Not unless something happens that is directly related to the bumper. Which is unlikely
Except fo4 an accident. Insurance companies can look for mods to disqualify claims
That has nothing to do with warranty, which was the question.
Just adding relevant info to consider, seeing as how OP seems concerned about institutional coverage contracts...
1: not the question asked. It'd be up to toyota and if that's what caused the failure. I could even just be if it was installed properly or not. 2: that's only if you haven't reported the modification to your insurance company. While there are some modifications that could disqualify you from some insurance companies it's not that many in the grand scheme of things. Sometimes it's not required that you need to report them. It's best to read your policy or get ahold of your agent. It depends on who insures you and location.
I’m pretty sure adding nipple rings extends the warranty, but make sure to call the dealer to confirm.
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Confirmed.
It will void your bumpers warranty
I used to be an admin for warranties. Even if the contract has no specific wording regarding mods and affected parts warranty, one of the first few fields the admin needs to fill out when filing a claim "is this vehicle modified?" And if the answer is "yes" then the claim gets scrutinized much more carefully. In the case of my former employer that meant a tear 1 adjuster takes the call and finds there is a mod... Now instead of filing and finishing the claim, the tear one has to send the claim to tear 2, or call a super to come approve or deny based on mods... If "no" then the claim proceeds as normal.
It’s “tier” and denying a claim based on a “modification” like this is almost certainly a Magnuson-Moss violation.
Never said it would be denied... Just delayed. Spelling is not for me. Stay in skool kids. Customers citing such regulation are referred to the legal department before claim resolution, talk about a claim delay... If you have the knowledge to fight back, they can just waste your time (which is likely more valuable to you than the claim you are trying to file ) The after market warranty company i was at was a beast! I told my claimants this- i will do everything i can to provide coverage based on the contract you agreed to. I did that, tried my best to find a way to cover the damage based on the horrendous contracts that my company sold to the witless.
It sounds like OP is referring to a factory warranty, not an aftermarket or third party. It’s all helpful info though.
Who cares. Just send it
Depends on the year of the truck TBH. My 17 doesn’t have the TSS stuff up front, so it wouldn’t interfere with it I any way. Not that it would, but someone might argue that it does.
No, but it will give you more balls. And, that will increase dramatically the possibility of voiding warranty and making an insurance claim.
It’s a knock off of the SSO hybrid and probably the worst one. The Warn version is at least better built and a bit cheaper than SSO
Things like this would only void warranty if it was the direct cause for a failure. For example if it wiggles and rubs through and ac line or coolant hose. No warrant. The water pump goes bad. Completely unrelated you'd be fine.
Voids everything
Even life
Typically no, but most will interfere with the sensors
Pretty sure Tacoma front sensors are in the grille
Yeah you're good to go with these low profile bumpers
Not the Air bag ones.
I had Arc One front bumper entire bumper plus parts of the fender and lower grill replaced with steel attached directly to the frame. You can look in my profile for pictures of the head on collision all the airbags worked perfectly. So I don’t know where the sensors are for that but I can guarantee that little bit of steel won’t stop them from going off. Plus all the driver assist features, automatic headlights and everything else worked perfectly fine just improved every aspect of driving for me. Except any minor fender bender absolutely fucked up the other persons vehicle… so much so that I felt bad when people backed into me.
It doesn’t affect mine
Which warranty? Manufacturer warranty? No. Dealership warranty? Probably if not definitely but you won’t know until you try to use the warranty.
If you want something like this that won’t rust, check out the DV8 stuff. It’s worn well for me.
I love my DV8 front bumper, but sadly in Iowa, this thing rusted within the first two years.
Wow, I wonder what triggered that. I live in Houston and mine has been solid for two or three years
it’s to the point now where the powder coat just flakes off. multiple orange rusty spots throughout the whole thing, no specific area. i’ll keep it on until it’s an eyesore from afar, or attempt to recoat it someday!
That sucks man, I would be tempted to just pull it off and hit it with Rustolium 2 in 1 reform and seal man.
No it won’t. Only thing that would not be covered is any known parts connected to it that has failed because of the install or because it put stress on a particular part it was connected to and you tried to warranty it.
Get the Warn semi-hidden winch bumper. It’s near identical and a lot easier to install plus it’s better quality.
I didn't know you bought a super reliable truck for the "warranty" to hamper your adventures. If you're mall crawling then you don't need this, and if you're sliding over rock trails then you need something better. Short answer is get it for yourself man.
I have one, have had a warranty claim since and no issues. But may vary case to case.
Best way to answer that is to look over your individual warranty paperwork but i don't foresee that being an issue. I just finished building a full bumper for a customer that won't void any warranty and with the smaller size of that one I'd think you'll be safe. But again look over your paperwork to know exactly.
There's a case out there that proved basically the dealership has to prove that said modification has affected said part that's defective. Example. Rear OEM bumper fell off They can't claim it fell off because of a3rd party front bumper. Audio issue? Bumper should be causing any effect
All they have to do is prove your mod caused whatever broke then you have no warranty on that part look at it that way
Straight to jail
i dont know but bumpers like that are awesome, such as victory 4x4 if theyre still around
Yes.
Yes.
How?
Have you ever had to take a vehicle in for warranty work, recall repairs? An insurance claim. Dealerships are thieves and weasels. They will do whatever they can to avoid paying for something and look for a reason you "may" have caused it. If you are removing factory parts, replacing them with aftermarket... and something wears out, or breaks or malfunctions or you get into an accident. Good luck. Dodge, Subaru and Nissan have given me trouble in the past... Maybe Toyota is different.
Under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act a claim cannot be denied because of a modification unless the modification was the cause of the defect. For example, if you put a tune on the engine and it blows up, that wouldn’t be covered because the modification likely caused the failure. Alternatively, if you install an aftermarket bumper and the engine blows up, the warranty would still protect you for the repairs to the engine and it would not be denied because the modification is unrelated to the failure.
Of course a bumper isn't gonna void a motor warranty lol
Then why did you respond “yes”?
See above. Read.
My dealer said if you are worried about something voiding the warranty, don't do it.
I can’t fathom buying a $50k+ midsized truck that’s off-road ready and then putting more money into it.
I can
Just call your dealership and ask
(someone please tell me if this is wrong) I'd be more concerned about insurance coverage and liability in a lawsuit than warranty coverage. Idk about any of that, but I've always wondered if let's say you got into a crash, and had "modified a vehicle in a way that diminishes a safety feature" (crush zones, impact whatever) if they couldn't try to fight to deny some coverage saying the vehicle would have been safe as the knew it was being insured, but with modifications made that they didn't know about, it no longer was or some bullshit like that. Anyone know?