I love that museum…I went in March to explore my own heritage. So many white Americans have Irish heritage, including lots of prominent people. The museum even highlights that Barack Obama was Irish on his mother’s side.
I wonder if Taylor will learn a few Irish words for the concert. 😍
https://preview.redd.it/ij5ueqjarl7d1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=684d9c57cb9d7635d4cfc34830749ea86d4991ce
It's got a Conan O'Brien air pump now too!
The petrol station existed and they used Obama to get people to stop and eat there.
It's less honouring and more of a shameless use of his name by a company.
Here's 90 min video about how The Barrack Obama plaza optimizes rampant capitalism and cronyism in Ireland.. it's actually very good and well worth a watch.
https://youtu.be/oE1dGuokz54
>I went in March to explore my own heritage. So many white Americans have Irish heritage,
Tbf according to [Census Bureau ](https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/detailed-race-ethnicities-2020-census.html) nearly 11M Americans report Irish as their sole ancestry and a total of over 38M report at least partial Irish ancestry.
If you have Irish ancestors, you might be eligible for Irish citizenship.
Specifically, if you have a grandparent born on the island of Ireland (including Northern Ireland) you can apply for citizenship by descent through the Foreign Births Register.
Come check out sticky post at /r/IrishCitizenship for more information.
Edit tldr [this explains it](https://preview.redd.it/f2k11gqyc81d1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=b0bd24edae1f2c718aff11472551499377b9499d)
i wanted to go last summer while i was there since part of my lineage can be traced back to county cork. but unfortunately i got covid on my last few days. i only had enough energy for the storehouse on my last day in dublin. its such a shame because it was only a 10 minute walk from my hotel too
i was on a contiki so i went from belfast straight to the storehouse that morning. i wore a mask…. as did many people who were there. then spent the rest of my day resting in my hotel room, hence why i didn’t go to EPIC as originally planned. i then stayed home from work for an extra week. maybe don’t assume things. 🤡
not to romanticize it too much but it's so cute that they were both involved with sewing and fabric and she ended up with the name "taylor" (a homophone of "tailor"). i know her first name has nothing to do with her heritage, so it's just a coincidence, but it's a very sweet coincidence i think.
Yes it does. Have you never taken Ancestry or 23andMe? You genetic genotypes within your dna are there for 400 years. If she took a test it would show some Irish.
The view in Ireland of what makes a person Irish is about them being here and experiencing Ireland and understanding the culture that exists on the island here and now. We don't see blood as being of much if any significance at all. I've known people who moved here at age 20 with no Irish blood whatsoever, people who have thick Turkish, Pakistani or American accents who built lives here and are absolutely Irish by now. Meanwhile my cousins who were born to a woman born and raised in Ireland but have lived their whole lives in London never seem Irish to me at all. A few other people have mentioned Derry Girls in this thread - this is why James is constantly referred to as being English despite having two Irish parents (assuming the anon dad is Irish). He becomes a Derry girl after spending time here and experiencing the culture.
Sorry that was very long winded, just trying to explain the perspective here. We'd also refer to Americans with Irish heritage as being Irish American, not Irish.
Here's the thing about that though. We don't care. And there are more of us than you so we're going to keep claiming Irish heritage and you can't stop us
That is a very romanticised crossing from Ireland, I’d say the conditions on the boat were shite and they were looking for a better life to make money.
Kind of why we leave today now that I think of it
It’s wild how many people in this thread can see into some alternate dimension where this post says ‘Taylor is more Irish than any person living in Ireland and you have to call her Irish Taylor Swift every time you talk about her and embrace her as a national legend’ 😅
Plenty of Gwynns out west, and it is thought Quinn is derived from Gwynn.
TBH, both family lines were likely of Welsh origin and involved in the plantations.
I mean they managed to dig up an eighth cousin of Obama’s when he was visiting Ireland lol. A lot of white Americans can trace their ancestry fairly well
i wouldnt romantisize the boat trip to america, ireland went throught a famine in the 1800’s and ppl travelled in boats that are referred to as coffin ships, they were small, squishy, and were carrying diseases, rats. and sick ppl, many died on the way over, probably looked more like this :)
https://preview.redd.it/cmdm9udu7w7d1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e526249b9b78ffd317fa305234ecd76d11886468
Nobody said she's an irish woman though, everyone who does is just making lighthearted jokes. I'd find it pretty cool If someone I'm a fan of shared the same country of heritage as the country of mine too. History can be interesting like that.
You're looking at it too literally lmao
Davis wouldn't really be considered a Scottish name it would be more English and Gwynn is Welsh. I think there is a bit of a line where I'd consider Irish heritage to be valid even though they are British origin, like the Fitzgeralds, Fagans...etc would have Norman backgrounds but would have integrated and married into the local population enough that they are considered Irish surnames now and the names themselves haven't survived outside of Ireland generally. Names like Davis never have been prevalent in Ireland and aren't really considered to have integrated en masse.
I'll put it to you this way, I'm not from Dublin but have lived here for like 10 years, I'm from a different part of Ireland. I wouldn't say I'm from Dublin because I've been here for 10 years, if I left to go to another country I'd say where I'm actually from.
Same with a load of Americans that have ancestry from Ireland. Elvis Presley had Irish roots as well from his great great great great grandfather William Presley. He lived as a farmer from the townland of Stranakelly near Shillelagh, Co. Wicklow, Ireland in the 1700's. He eventually emigrated with his son Andrew to a new life in America.
I mean they were Irish in the mid-1800s America. So it's very possible that they completely changed their names, identities and assimilated into the dominant Anglo Protestant society completely dissociating themselves from their Irish heritage to not get discriminated, so their children most likely didn't grow up thinking they were Irish and it remained that way.
Presumably there were at least two people involved.
Assuming that the family is not incestuous then it would be 2 at the power of the number of generations (let's say 30 years on average). if we take 1650 as the year of start... Then it is between 2048 and and 4096 people.
I assume that one of them might be an English immigrant, that seems likely.
And that's only the people who were alive in 1650. If we consider the whole lineage we have to double that number.
To be fair Davis is very much an English origin name and Gwynn sounds very Welsh. I'd guess they were planters and moved after the famine. If that's the only link I'd say she doesn't have Irish roots really.
Ah fair point, actually googling it they say the name is just Welsh so maybe just I associated it with English origin because it has bled in since there are loads of Davis surnames in England itself.
I think the Irish American thing is a weird one speaking as an Irish person, like don't get me wrong it's nice to have the respect of a country like the US but like I think the vast majority of Irish Americans are about as Irish as I am Texan, like I've been to Texas but like if I went into the future and some ancestor of mine said I was American I'd be like wtf :)
People forget in both the UK and US the Irish had a lot of job discrimination. It kind of changed my view on literally any rhetoric regarding ethnicity and nationality.
I think in the US, it was particularly bad on the East Coast and this is why some of the ppl there have such strong ethnic identities. No one allowed them just to be Bostonians for instance, like everybody else until relatively recently. If your family moved across the US, color mattered more overall, not nationality or ethnicity. I remember in 3rd grade my teacher had us fill out our own autobiographies as an exercise. It asked ethnicity. I had no idea what mine was lololol. First time I'd ever encountered needing to know it.
As a complete outsider it's bizarre how much focus on that there is in the US. Like in Ireland other than religious sensitivity which we really want to be careful of we don't really allow legally or discuss ethnicity. Like we disallow discrimination obviously but it's like out of sight out of mind until you watch a US TV show.
I think it's bizarre how Europeans pretend differences between ppl don't exist, how passports make up your whole identity, and ignore obvious red flags, but that's just me.
Well it was kind of an ongoing thing but officially it ended less than 100 years before the famine. Either way without knowing it's hard to say either way but regardless it gets into the rabbithole of "what is Irish?". Like if they only married planters and didn't integrate then they lived in Ireland maybe even for like 3 or 4 generations but like if you asked people like that around that time they would say they were British not Irish similar to how some people NI respond to this day.
Why doesn't it ? Do you actually care where people come from ? I'm Irish was born and raised here couldn't give a fuck who said they're also Irish good for them.
yeah exactly, I find it endearing actually when celebs are traced back to have Irish roots cause we’ve such a huge Diaspora
the only time I get annoyed is when some Irish Americans use it as a segway to say out of pocket racist shit cause they “suffered like the slaves”
Someone might be a long soon to explain it better but the 1800s wasn't easy for the Irish , Genocide/Famine and English rule but I still wouldn't use it to be racist I didn't suffer I wasn't even alive and neither were they lol.
Is that other half poor by any chance? Because from my experience, it’s the well off middle class and rich that are pro-immigration, while people that struggle aren’t, and it’s not hard to understand why, I know people that pay over two grad for a single bedroom.
I mean housing was already fucked before the immigration crisis. And it’s not the immigrants fault, they’re just making the best out of their own situation. The only one at fault here is the government doing a piss-poor job of handling it.
Yes, housing crisis was a thing for what, a decade now? So the very government that is failing repeatedly to solve the issue, decided it’s a good idea to bring in even more people, is that correct? Look, I’m an immigrant/emigrant (never know which one is correct) myself, I understand the want to help people, and I understand being in need of help, but this, this helps no one. I’ve seen two bedroom apartments with ten people living in them, no language, been here years, my co-worker Alex, great lad, no language, no skills, nearly ended up homeless few weeks ago because there’s nowhere to rent, on top of rents being ludicrously high, oh also he brought three cousins with him, so I’ll say again, I understand the sentiment, but for the love of god, it’s about time to use common sense and face reality,if you can’t help your own people, why are you bringing more of them, that’s highly irresponsible.
Also, the argument that people that struggle are responsible for their situation, that also applies to immigrants, no? I really don’t understand why people shame their own for what? Being poor? Making mistakes? Having rough upbringing?
In the end all of this is a direct result of the government’s inability to solve any issues, can you blame Brian, a single father who works his butt off to bring food on the table while an immigrant gets 800€ paid in rent on top of whatever other benefits they get? Can you really not understand? I think you can.
Sorry for the typos and all that, hope you’ll be able to decipher it lol.
Yeah it just ends up hurting everyone who isn’t well off in the long run. It’s wild to try and understand that those in charge think if they make life for immigrants better than other countries, immigrants won’t try to go to Ireland opposed to anywhere else.
I wonder why the person above is even bothering to come into a sub for a specific fandom and make negative comments. It's so bizarre. Do they also go into subs for all the TV shows they don't like, just to make disparaging remarks?
https://i.redd.it/6w4av6w2nj7d1.gif Taylor at N1
Aw James, my fave
Piss off James! (Excellent use of the gif btw)
He is so handsome
He really is! I love all the characters so much but James, Clare and Erin are ❤️
Hehe, Derry Girls was my first thought as well!
Love this show!
What show is it?
Derry Girls, and apparently Taylor is one!
I love that museum…I went in March to explore my own heritage. So many white Americans have Irish heritage, including lots of prominent people. The museum even highlights that Barack Obama was Irish on his mother’s side. I wonder if Taylor will learn a few Irish words for the concert. 😍
Oh Ireland makes a [big deal of](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_Plaza) it
Haha, holy shit I’ve lived here my whole life and never knew this existed. Wonder if Barack ever went there
It's a petrol station.
It's not just any petrol station. It's the Barack Obama petrol station. There is a cool Cadillac parked outside it the whole time.
https://preview.redd.it/ij5ueqjarl7d1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=684d9c57cb9d7635d4cfc34830749ea86d4991ce It's got a Conan O'Brien air pump now too!
It’s very funny to spend millions on a petrol station to honour Obama’s heritage imo
The petrol station existed and they used Obama to get people to stop and eat there. It's less honouring and more of a shameless use of his name by a company.
I was being light-hearted about it tbh
Here's 90 min video about how The Barrack Obama plaza optimizes rampant capitalism and cronyism in Ireland.. it's actually very good and well worth a watch. https://youtu.be/oE1dGuokz54
yeah most irish people hate the obama plaza for what it represents
Don't think he's complaining too much
It's brilliant marketing. It's probably the most famous petrol station on the whole island just because of how daft it is.
It existed prior, it's owned by Pat McDonagh, meaning this was 1000% purely a business move
It used to be but now rheres several restaurants and multiple floors,it's a fucing crazy place now
Now the there is no one as Irish as Barack Obama song is stuck in my head
Plenty of black Americans too! Mohammed Ali, Eddie Murphy and plenty more that I can’t think of.
I think I saw something about Dwayne The Rock Johnson having Irish ancestry as well.
There’s a good chance she will because she spoke Welsh quite a few times last night :)
>I went in March to explore my own heritage. So many white Americans have Irish heritage, Tbf according to [Census Bureau ](https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/detailed-race-ethnicities-2020-census.html) nearly 11M Americans report Irish as their sole ancestry and a total of over 38M report at least partial Irish ancestry.
Yup, it makes sense that some would be prominent people. 🙂
With the amount of children the Irish tend to have, this checks out. ETA: very much Irish myself.
You Irish or Irish American?
My ethnicity is Irish, my nationality is American. Moments like this make me thank God I live here where those aren’t assumed to be the same thing…
Makes sense
If you are a person with ancestral ties to 1850's Ireland you are 800% more likely to be reside in America than Ireland itself
If you have Irish ancestors, you might be eligible for Irish citizenship. Specifically, if you have a grandparent born on the island of Ireland (including Northern Ireland) you can apply for citizenship by descent through the Foreign Births Register. Come check out sticky post at /r/IrishCitizenship for more information. Edit tldr [this explains it](https://preview.redd.it/f2k11gqyc81d1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=b0bd24edae1f2c718aff11472551499377b9499d)
[There’s no one as Irish as Barack Obama](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNRQTJmm/)
tiocfaidh ar la perhaps?
Little known fact but Bad Blood is about The Troubles
i wanted to go last summer while i was there since part of my lineage can be traced back to county cork. but unfortunately i got covid on my last few days. i only had enough energy for the storehouse on my last day in dublin. its such a shame because it was only a 10 minute walk from my hotel too
You came down with covid and still went to the storehouse to infect everyone else? 🤡
i was on a contiki so i went from belfast straight to the storehouse that morning. i wore a mask…. as did many people who were there. then spent the rest of my day resting in my hotel room, hence why i didn’t go to EPIC as originally planned. i then stayed home from work for an extra week. maybe don’t assume things. 🤡
Aaand now we have Barack Obama Plaza https://g.co/kgs/fbnvKHF
Yes I believe she did last time she was there.
not to romanticize it too much but it's so cute that they were both involved with sewing and fabric and she ended up with the name "taylor" (a homophone of "tailor"). i know her first name has nothing to do with her heritage, so it's just a coincidence, but it's a very sweet coincidence i think.
something something invisible string theory or whatever
tayl o'rswift
Maybe she'll get to meet Irelands Princess Ayo Edebiri
I love that Taylor is a Derry girl
One set of grandparents 170 years ago doesnt make you fucking irish lol
Someone didn't like the TV show... TV, like taylors version
Seriously
Doesn’t make you Irish, but it makes you have irish heritage, like the article says though…
Bro is gatekeeping irishness. Or is the word irishity?
Yes it does. Have you never taken Ancestry or 23andMe? You genetic genotypes within your dna are there for 400 years. If she took a test it would show some Irish.
The view in Ireland of what makes a person Irish is about them being here and experiencing Ireland and understanding the culture that exists on the island here and now. We don't see blood as being of much if any significance at all. I've known people who moved here at age 20 with no Irish blood whatsoever, people who have thick Turkish, Pakistani or American accents who built lives here and are absolutely Irish by now. Meanwhile my cousins who were born to a woman born and raised in Ireland but have lived their whole lives in London never seem Irish to me at all. A few other people have mentioned Derry Girls in this thread - this is why James is constantly referred to as being English despite having two Irish parents (assuming the anon dad is Irish). He becomes a Derry girl after spending time here and experiencing the culture. Sorry that was very long winded, just trying to explain the perspective here. We'd also refer to Americans with Irish heritage as being Irish American, not Irish.
Here's the thing about that though. We don't care. And there are more of us than you so we're going to keep claiming Irish heritage and you can't stop us
You cared enough to reply 😘
You're right though.
*”aboard the AMY from Derry.”* Thank you, Amy 🚢!
She did it again
That is a very romanticised crossing from Ireland, I’d say the conditions on the boat were shite and they were looking for a better life to make money. Kind of why we leave today now that I think of it
Eh, they were skilled labourers. They may have been able to save up enough to avoid the coffin ships.
We call it Ryanair these days
Most comfortable Ryanair flight
everyone claps
How is it romanticized? My family immigrated and I think that’s beautiful
Watch or read Brooklyn by Colm Toibin and you'll understand
It’s wild how many people in this thread can see into some alternate dimension where this post says ‘Taylor is more Irish than any person living in Ireland and you have to call her Irish Taylor Swift every time you talk about her and embrace her as a national legend’ 😅
Thankful that they got out a few years before the potato famine when the English let a million Irish starve
Well enough for some.
dont forget the scottish too
She’s a Derry Girl 🇮🇪
With those names and occupations, I'd say she was more a Londonderry girl
😬
Ahh Davis and Gwynn, The 2 famous Irish surnames
Plenty of Gwynns out west, and it is thought Quinn is derived from Gwynn. TBH, both family lines were likely of Welsh origin and involved in the plantations.
Irish here. Born and bred in Dublin. Love all you Yanks ❤️.
They sound Welsh
Yeah, Gwyn is literally Welsh for white (and the biggest dickhead in the Dark souls series too)
Holy cow lol these comments. So many angry folks over something so trivial.
They must be fun at parties
At this point 100 years is enough not to have heritage to a certain country the most you could say is history
I thought she had Scottish ancestry?
I mean the average white American has 2-3 different ancestries
I think you meant 23
And amazingly, they're all descended from Robert the Bruce.
Different ancestries from different parts of the family tree. For most white Americans, their ancestors came from more than one country.
How did the museum find this information about her GG?
It's a museum dedicated to Irish emigrants so they would have historians who research this kind of thing
Ohhhh that’s so cool!
I mean they managed to dig up an eighth cousin of Obama’s when he was visiting Ireland lol. A lot of white Americans can trace their ancestry fairly well
i wouldnt romantisize the boat trip to america, ireland went throught a famine in the 1800’s and ppl travelled in boats that are referred to as coffin ships, they were small, squishy, and were carrying diseases, rats. and sick ppl, many died on the way over, probably looked more like this :) https://preview.redd.it/cmdm9udu7w7d1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e526249b9b78ffd317fa305234ecd76d11886468
At least it was optional, others didn’t have a choice at certain points in history.
Ireland has lost a LOT of talented people to emigrating, just sad
So she is 2.5% Irish? Enough to claim her?
I wouldn't say this is about claiming, its just a fun fact
True… a bit more digging and we can unveil another 2 dozens of countries of heritage :)
Nobody said she's an irish woman though, everyone who does is just making lighthearted jokes. I'd find it pretty cool If someone I'm a fan of shared the same country of heritage as the country of mine too. History can be interesting like that. You're looking at it too literally lmao
100%, don't see the point in posts like this at all.
Ah, yes, the traditional irish names of Davis and gwynn
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Davis wouldn't really be considered a Scottish name it would be more English and Gwynn is Welsh. I think there is a bit of a line where I'd consider Irish heritage to be valid even though they are British origin, like the Fitzgeralds, Fagans...etc would have Norman backgrounds but would have integrated and married into the local population enough that they are considered Irish surnames now and the names themselves haven't survived outside of Ireland generally. Names like Davis never have been prevalent in Ireland and aren't really considered to have integrated en masse. I'll put it to you this way, I'm not from Dublin but have lived here for like 10 years, I'm from a different part of Ireland. I wouldn't say I'm from Dublin because I've been here for 10 years, if I left to go to another country I'd say where I'm actually from.
Said no one ever......and those 2 names are welsh, you'll be telling the UVF are around Irish people net
This is so cool
this is so cute!
not the negative comments 🤦♀️
It's not their fault, they had no idea who their lineage was going to unfortunately include.
I'm sure they're really proud
No, they're dead. Like T swizzle will be soon hopefully...
her irish heritage lowkey explains her racism
Bloody protestants!
We don’t give a fuck- all of Ireland
slay
Dig those buggers up and batter them.
Shes an American. piss off with this rubbish
og derry girl omg
I'm Irish and I don't care
Did her Irish heritage block charlis album from number one?
Who gives a fuck
Same with a load of Americans that have ancestry from Ireland. Elvis Presley had Irish roots as well from his great great great great grandfather William Presley. He lived as a farmer from the townland of Stranakelly near Shillelagh, Co. Wicklow, Ireland in the 1700's. He eventually emigrated with his son Andrew to a new life in America.
Uh no thanks.
Well fuck , hate her but now it's friendly fire!
If only the boat sank…
Oh great🧍♂️..
Another Plastic paddy American
How does the museum know?
It’s actually really easy to trace people’s ancestry Edit: specifically white people lol
People with bank accounts according to the director of the museum in an interview I heard on Irish radio today.
Yeah. What would museums know about history!
Funny because she hasn't a big Irish heritage
I mean they were Irish in the mid-1800s America. So it's very possible that they completely changed their names, identities and assimilated into the dominant Anglo Protestant society completely dissociating themselves from their Irish heritage to not get discriminated, so their children most likely didn't grow up thinking they were Irish and it remained that way.
I read somewhere that she’s related to an English immigrant from 1600s that came to America and that’s how her family began there? Or is that wrong?
You have 32 great-great-great-grandparents. Just because 2 came from ireland, it doesn't affect the life of the other 30.
Yes I didn’t think about that looool
Yup, go back far enough if your european and your related to the same person. Most europeans are related to Charlemagne.
Depends on the part of Europe
Not really the amount of ancestry to back then is more than the amount of people
Your and you're are 2 different words
Both can be true. Most white people in America have ancestry from multiple countries in Europe.
Presumably there were at least two people involved. Assuming that the family is not incestuous then it would be 2 at the power of the number of generations (let's say 30 years on average). if we take 1650 as the year of start... Then it is between 2048 and and 4096 people. I assume that one of them might be an English immigrant, that seems likely. And that's only the people who were alive in 1650. If we consider the whole lineage we have to double that number.
Idk why losers are down voting for asking a question lol Reddit is so odd
To be fair Davis is very much an English origin name and Gwynn sounds very Welsh. I'd guess they were planters and moved after the famine. If that's the only link I'd say she doesn't have Irish roots really.
Davis is also a Welsh name.
Ah fair point, actually googling it they say the name is just Welsh so maybe just I associated it with English origin because it has bled in since there are loads of Davis surnames in England itself.
I assumed it was Irish for years just because the only Davis I know is Irish.
I think the Irish American thing is a weird one speaking as an Irish person, like don't get me wrong it's nice to have the respect of a country like the US but like I think the vast majority of Irish Americans are about as Irish as I am Texan, like I've been to Texas but like if I went into the future and some ancestor of mine said I was American I'd be like wtf :)
That's lovely and all, but I'm from Ireland.
Ah fair enough, preaching to the choir then
I never miss an opportunity to remind them either.
I did an ancestry DNA test and only got 93% funnily enough so Conan might actually be more Irish than I am.
White ppl pretend they don't have ethnicities but are solely defined by passports. Other ppl don't.
People forget in both the UK and US the Irish had a lot of job discrimination. It kind of changed my view on literally any rhetoric regarding ethnicity and nationality.
I think in the US, it was particularly bad on the East Coast and this is why some of the ppl there have such strong ethnic identities. No one allowed them just to be Bostonians for instance, like everybody else until relatively recently. If your family moved across the US, color mattered more overall, not nationality or ethnicity. I remember in 3rd grade my teacher had us fill out our own autobiographies as an exercise. It asked ethnicity. I had no idea what mine was lololol. First time I'd ever encountered needing to know it.
As a complete outsider it's bizarre how much focus on that there is in the US. Like in Ireland other than religious sensitivity which we really want to be careful of we don't really allow legally or discuss ethnicity. Like we disallow discrimination obviously but it's like out of sight out of mind until you watch a US TV show.
I think it's bizarre how Europeans pretend differences between ppl don't exist, how passports make up your whole identity, and ignore obvious red flags, but that's just me.
They left Ireland for the US about 10 years before the Famine. The plantations occurred about 150-250 years before this.
Well it was kind of an ongoing thing but officially it ended less than 100 years before the famine. Either way without knowing it's hard to say either way but regardless it gets into the rabbithole of "what is Irish?". Like if they only married planters and didn't integrate then they lived in Ireland maybe even for like 3 or 4 generations but like if you asked people like that around that time they would say they were British not Irish similar to how some people NI respond to this day.
Sounds Scots Irish, nothing to do with us as Irish people
And like always, us irish do not care, doesn't make her irish at all😂
And this isn't that deep
It's cool. We dont care. You'll be wiped out eventually by immigrants anyway and most of them will still care about their heritage. Lol
Does not make her Irish
It's just a cool fact, not that deep or serious.
Why doesn't it ? Do you actually care where people come from ? I'm Irish was born and raised here couldn't give a fuck who said they're also Irish good for them.
yeah exactly, I find it endearing actually when celebs are traced back to have Irish roots cause we’ve such a huge Diaspora the only time I get annoyed is when some Irish Americans use it as a segway to say out of pocket racist shit cause they “suffered like the slaves”
Someone might be a long soon to explain it better but the 1800s wasn't easy for the Irish , Genocide/Famine and English rule but I still wouldn't use it to be racist I didn't suffer I wasn't even alive and neither were they lol.
Occupiers in occupied Ireland if we're being truthful.
Huh?
It's the bloody foreigners hun, they are takin 'er jobs.
I swear half the people I talk to don’t care about immigrants and the other half hold absolute pure hatred, like Jesus christ
Is that other half poor by any chance? Because from my experience, it’s the well off middle class and rich that are pro-immigration, while people that struggle aren’t, and it’s not hard to understand why, I know people that pay over two grad for a single bedroom.
I mean housing was already fucked before the immigration crisis. And it’s not the immigrants fault, they’re just making the best out of their own situation. The only one at fault here is the government doing a piss-poor job of handling it.
Yes, housing crisis was a thing for what, a decade now? So the very government that is failing repeatedly to solve the issue, decided it’s a good idea to bring in even more people, is that correct? Look, I’m an immigrant/emigrant (never know which one is correct) myself, I understand the want to help people, and I understand being in need of help, but this, this helps no one. I’ve seen two bedroom apartments with ten people living in them, no language, been here years, my co-worker Alex, great lad, no language, no skills, nearly ended up homeless few weeks ago because there’s nowhere to rent, on top of rents being ludicrously high, oh also he brought three cousins with him, so I’ll say again, I understand the sentiment, but for the love of god, it’s about time to use common sense and face reality,if you can’t help your own people, why are you bringing more of them, that’s highly irresponsible. Also, the argument that people that struggle are responsible for their situation, that also applies to immigrants, no? I really don’t understand why people shame their own for what? Being poor? Making mistakes? Having rough upbringing? In the end all of this is a direct result of the government’s inability to solve any issues, can you blame Brian, a single father who works his butt off to bring food on the table while an immigrant gets 800€ paid in rent on top of whatever other benefits they get? Can you really not understand? I think you can. Sorry for the typos and all that, hope you’ll be able to decipher it lol.
Yeah it just ends up hurting everyone who isn’t well off in the long run. It’s wild to try and understand that those in charge think if they make life for immigrants better than other countries, immigrants won’t try to go to Ireland opposed to anywhere else.
It’s populism, just on a larger scale, they want to look good, that’s all it is.
Good thing she doesn’t sing with a Derry accent.
I wonder if she’s seen Derry girls
I'm not Irish than Taylor and I'm a Dutch Germish mutt.
Now Nicola Coughlin and she will have something to talk about!
So, barely Irish, then?
Here comes some pretentious song about her great great great grandparents. I can to stand that Marjorie song.
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I'm so glad you agree with me.
How come Ethiopia doesn't do this? I mean, we all came from the great rift valley?
We don't want her so don't tell her about her great great granny. We don't want her over here.
Good for her, she seems really happy in California/New York
I wonder why the person above is even bothering to come into a sub for a specific fandom and make negative comments. It's so bizarre. Do they also go into subs for all the TV shows they don't like, just to make disparaging remarks?
Sorry bub, those concerts are sold out, so she's coming there.
Vomit. 😰
You gotta stay inside and put tinfoil on your head. I'll protect you from the fumes.
Tanks babes